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FC Generator Replacement - Scott Forman - 05-08-2006 13:24

I've just about had my fill of the FC Kohler generator and its
deafening noise. I am considering replacement with an Onan Quiet
Diesel.

What is the minimum wattage I can get away with? I know the 12.5 was
overkill, but do I need a 10kw? Will a 8kw do it? I have roof airs,
not cruise airs.

Thanks

Scott Forman
82 FC35RB
Memphis

FC Generator Replacement - Curt Sprenger - 05-08-2006 13:29

Two roof airs? 8kw should do it.

Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.



Scott Forman wrote:

> I've just about had my fill of the FC Kohler generator and its
> deafening noise. I am considering replacement with an Onan Quiet
> Diesel.
>
> What is the minimum wattage I can get away with? I know the 12.5 was
> overkill, but do I need a 10kw? Will a 8kw do it? I have roof airs,
> not cruise airs.
>
> Thanks
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> Scott Forman
> 82 FC35RB
> Memphis
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FC Generator Replacement - Bruce Morris - 05-08-2006 13:44

Scott, I suspect that 8 kw would handle the three a/c units as long as they were
not all started at the same time. But it wouldn't leave a lot of capacity for
much else. I know that Gary Miller put a 8 kw quiet diesel in his Bird but I
think he only has 2 a/c units.

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----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Forman
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Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 9:24 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] FC Generator Replacement


I've just about had my fill of the FC Kohler generator and its
deafening noise. I am considering replacement with an Onan Quiet
Diesel.

What is the minimum wattage I can get away with? I know the 12.5 was
overkill, but do I need a 10kw? Will a 8kw do it? I have roof airs,
not cruise airs.

Thanks

Scott Forman
82 FC35RB
Memphis






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FC Generator Replacement - Tom Warner - 05-08-2006 14:13

Scott I forgot about your problem of noise. If you redo the generator
compartment with the correct soundproofing material, 1" thick , 2#
per sq ft composite soundproofing with a lead barrier and foil face
you will drastically cut down on the noise where it is just a murmur
when sitting in the drivers seat at the front of the coach. I
actually replaced mine with the same composite but used the vinyl
barrier and it works great but not as good as the lead barrier. If I
were to do it again I would use the lead barrier. You can buy
cheaper material from JC Whitney but for all of the work you will do
in replacing it I would strongly advise you to buy material from
http://www.soundown.com. It is no more expensive then the cheaper stuff. In
addition you might want to look at the soundproofing suggestions on
the site. Soundown has a full range of products for underlayment for
the carpet, mufflers and isolation mounts etc. If you really want to
quiet down a FC model Bluebird then reline the doghouse with their
the 2" thick lead barrier composite with a foil face. You will be
amazed at the reduction in noise.

In the 1982 FC35 that I just sold, it had factory installed mass
loaded vinyl barrier material very much like that offered by
soundown. Wonder if it could be their product?

Tom Warner
Vernon Center,NY
1985 PT 40

' At 09:24 PM 5/8/2006, you wrote:
>I've just about had my fill of the FC Kohler generator and its
>deafening noise. I am considering replacement with an Onan Quiet
>Diesel.
>
>What is the minimum wattage I can get away with? I know the 12.5 was
>overkill, but do I need a 10kw? Will a 8kw do it? I have roof airs,
>not cruise airs.
>
>Thanks
>
>Scott Forman
>82 FC35RB
>Memphis
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FC Generator Replacement - Jerry - 05-08-2006 14:54

While Generators are up for discussion, can anyone point me to a good source
for a 12 to 15KW Generator for my home as Hurricane season is about here
again A good used unit would be fine. While diesel would work ok, I could
also use Nat Gas or LP. I would prefer it to be in the Southeast so I could
pick it up myself and save on delivery cost and delay.



Jerry

MS Gulf Coast

Looking





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Two roof airs? 8kw should do it.

Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.



Scott Forman wrote:

> I've just about had my fill of the FC Kohler generator and its
> deafening noise. I am considering replacement with an Onan Quiet
> Diesel.
>
> What is the minimum wattage I can get away with? I know the 12.5 was
> overkill, but do I need a 10kw? Will a 8kw do it? I have roof airs,
> not cruise airs.
>
> Thanks
>
> Scott Forman
> 82 FC35RB
> Memphis
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FC Generator Replacement - Andy Coleman - 05-08-2006 18:08

Hey Scott,

The 8k watt onan quiet diesel weighs about 420 lbs.

The 12.5k watt onan quiet diesel weights 770 lbs. 350 lbs is quite a
difference, even on a heavy Wanderlodge.

However, if you look at the specs, they get similar fuel efficiency.
Click on
http://www.onan.com/onan/rvgenerators/QuietDiesel/generatorProductDetail.jsp?prd\
id=prod90023

If you only have two roof airs, go with 8K watts.

I have a FC-35 with 3 cruise air underbelly AC units. I'm also
considering a onan quiet diesel. I guess I'm stuck having to buy the
large 12.5K watt.

Hope that helps.

Andy Coleman
83' FC-35
Spring Lake Heights, NJ



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@...>
wrote:
>
> I've just about had my fill of the FC Kohler generator and its
> deafening noise. I am considering replacement with an Onan Quiet
> Diesel.
>
> What is the minimum wattage I can get away with? I know the 12.5 was
> overkill, but do I need a 10kw? Will a 8kw do it? I have roof airs,
> not cruise airs.
>
> Thanks
>
> Scott Forman
> 82 FC35RB
> Memphis
>

FC Generator Replacement - erniecarpet@... - 05-08-2006 19:24

Jerry- i believe there is a generator for sale on the vintage birds forum.
ernie-83pt40 in Texas


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FC Generator Replacement - Stephen Birtles - 05-09-2006 00:26

There are other suppliers of composite insulation and less expensive
than either whitney or soundown and a better product too.
I would be happy to supply insulation for your project
The vinyl barrier is every bit as good as the lead barrier and more
cost effective but we can supply both
http://www.capeinnovation.com
Stephen 77fc35




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner wrote:
>
> Scott I forgot about your problem of noise. If you redo the generator
> compartment with the correct soundproofing material, 1" thick , 2#
> per sq ft composite soundproofing with a lead barrier and foil face
> you will drastically cut down on the noise where it is just a murmur
> when sitting in the drivers seat at the front of the coach. I
> actually replaced mine with the same composite but used the vinyl
> barrier and it works great but not as good as the lead barrier. If I
> were to do it again I would use the lead barrier. You can buy
> cheaper material from JC Whitney but for all of the work you will do
> in replacing it I would strongly advise you to buy material from
> http://www.soundown.com. It is no more expensive then the cheaper stuff. In
> addition you might want to look at the soundproofing suggestions on
> the site. Soundown has a full range of products for underlayment for
> the carpet, mufflers and isolation mounts etc. If you really want to
> quiet down a FC model Bluebird then reline the doghouse with their
> the 2" thick lead barrier composite with a foil face. You will be
> amazed at the reduction in noise.
>
> In the 1982 FC35 that I just sold, it had factory installed mass
> loaded vinyl barrier material very much like that offered by
> soundown. Wonder if it could be their product?
>
> Tom Warner
> Vernon Center,NY
> 1985 PT 40
>
> ' At 09:24 PM 5/8/2006, you wrote:
> >I've just about had my fill of the FC Kohler generator and its
> >deafening noise. I am considering replacement with an Onan Quiet
> >Diesel.
> >
> >What is the minimum wattage I can get away with? I know the 12.5 was
> >overkill, but do I need a 10kw? Will a 8kw do it? I have roof airs,
> >not cruise airs.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Scott Forman
> >82 FC35RB
> >Memphis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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FC Generator Replacement - Jeff Miller - 05-09-2006 01:13

10kw should hold it. This will give you the capacity for pretty much
everything at once, of course you wouldn't run electric heat and A/C at
the same time, but everything else. I was not happy with 8kw.

On the other hand, de-rate for high temperatures, and since the 10kw
isn't a turbo-diesel normally, de-rate for anything above sea
level, ... and a nice 12.5kw unit would hold pretty much everything on
a hot day at moderate altitude.

- Jeff Miller
in Holland, MI

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@...>
wrote:
>
> I've just about had my fill of the FC Kohler generator and its
> deafening noise. I am considering replacement with an Onan Quiet
> Diesel.
>
> What is the minimum wattage I can get away with? I know the 12.5 was
> overkill, but do I need a 10kw? Will a 8kw do it? I have roof airs,
> not cruise airs.
>
> Thanks
>
> Scott Forman
> 82 FC35RB
> Memphis
>

FC Generator Replacement - Scott Forman - 05-09-2006 02:41

I have 3 roof airs. I am hoping a 10 will be sufficient.

Scott

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Coleman"
wrote:
>
> Hey Scott,
>
> The 8k watt onan quiet diesel weighs about 420 lbs.
>
> The 12.5k watt onan quiet diesel weights 770 lbs. 350 lbs is quite
a
> difference, even on a heavy Wanderlodge.
>
> However, if you look at the specs, they get similar fuel efficiency.
> Click on
>
http://www.onan.com/onan/rvgenerators/QuietDiesel/generatorProductDeta
il.jsp?prdid=prod90023
>
> If you only have two roof airs, go with 8K watts.
>
> I have a FC-35 with 3 cruise air underbelly AC units. I'm also
> considering a onan quiet diesel. I guess I'm stuck having to buy
the
> large 12.5K watt.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Andy Coleman
> 83' FC-35
> Spring Lake Heights,
NJ
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I've just about had my fill of the FC Kohler generator and its
> > deafening noise. I am considering replacement with an Onan Quiet
> > Diesel.
> >
> > What is the minimum wattage I can get away with? I know the 12.5
was
> > overkill, but do I need a 10kw? Will a 8kw do it? I have roof
airs,
> > not cruise airs.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Scott Forman
> > 82 FC35RB
> > Memphis
> >
>