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Electric Retarder - Stephen H - 10-06-2006 15:55 HELP! Tonight I got my Retarder to show signs of working for the first time. Every time in the past I have tried it, it never came on. Well, I was messing around tonight at the dash with switches and The red indicator light came on the dash, and the relays were clicking under the bus in every position of the lever!! (I know, not too exciting for most, but it has never worked before!!)I could hear a diffrent sound with 1,2,3 and 4. The red light got a bit dimmer with the next power, indicating to me that it was sending more, and more power to the unit..?? All of a sudden, the light went off, and the clicking quit. What in the world! I didnt even move in my chair, much less mess with any connections. I could not get it to come back on again. What would be a good thing to check first? Is there something to cut power to this? I reset my breakers, and tried everything to get it to come back.. I want my Retarder back!!! I had the engine/ignition off, and nothing else on. Stephen H 81 FC-33SB Plant CIty, FL Electric Retarder - Stephen H - 10-06-2006 15:55 HELP! Tonight I got my Retarder to show signs of working for the first time. Every time in the past I have tried it, it never came on. Well, I was messing around tonight at the dash with switches and The red indicator light came on the dash, and the relays were clicking under the bus in every position of the lever!! (I know, not too exciting for most, but it has never worked before!!)I could hear a diffrent sound with 1,2,3 and 4. The red light got a bit dimmer with the next power, indicating to me that it was sending more, and more power to the unit..?? All of a sudden, the light went off, and the clicking quit. What in the world! I didnt even move in my chair, much less mess with any connections. I could not get it to come back on again. What would be a good thing to check first? Is there something to cut power to this? I reset my breakers, and tried everything to get it to come back.. I want my Retarder back!!! I had the engine/ignition off, and nothing else on. Stephen H 81 FC-33SB Plant CIty, FL Electric Retarder - Ralph L. Fullenwider - 10-07-2006 02:47 Steve: I don't have the prints in front of me, I would start by checking the input power for a faulty or corroded connection. Then find the circuit breaker the control power is connected to, you may have weak breaker. Just a couple of thoughts. Safe travels, Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma At 03:55 AM 10/7/2006 +0000, you wrote: >HELP! Tonight I got my Retarder to show signs of working for the first >time. Every time in the past I have tried it, it never came on. Well, I >was messing around tonight at the dash with switches and The red >indicator light came on the dash, and the relays were clicking under >the bus in every position of the lever!! (I know, not too exciting for >most, but it has never worked before!!)I could hear a >diffrent sound with 1,2,3 and 4. The red light got a bit dimmer with >the next power, indicating to me that it was sending more, and more >power to the unit..?? All of a sudden, the light went off, and the >clicking quit. What in the world! I didnt even move in my chair, much >less mess with any connections. I could not get it to come back on >again. What would be a good thing to check first? Is there something to >cut power to this? I reset my breakers, and tried everything to get it >to come back.. I want my Retarder back!!! I had the engine/ignition >off, and nothing else on. >Stephen H >81 FC-33SB >Plant CIty, FL > > > Electric Retarder - Jeff Miller - 10-07-2006 04:21 Difficult to say how the retarder is wired on an '81 as they weren't equipped until '83, might not be a bluprint at all. It might be best to simply re-wire the retarder control supply circuit through a new ignition-controlled relay and breaker. Faster to do it right than to figure out how it was done wrong. - Jeff Miller in Holland, MI --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider" > > Steve: > > I don't have the prints in front of me, I would start by checking the input > power for a faulty or corroded connection. Then find the circuit breaker > the control power is connected to, you may have weak breaker. Just a couple > of thoughts. > > Safe travels, > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider > Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma > > At 03:55 AM 10/7/2006 +0000, you wrote: > >HELP! Tonight I got my Retarder to show signs of working for the first > >time. Every time in the past I have tried it, it never came on. Well, I > >was messing around tonight at the dash with switches and The red > >indicator light came on the dash, and the relays were clicking under > >the bus in every position of the lever!! (I know, not too exciting for > >most, but it has never worked before!!)I could hear a > >diffrent sound with 1,2,3 and 4. The red light got a bit dimmer with > >the next power, indicating to me that it was sending more, and more > >power to the unit..?? All of a sudden, the light went off, and the > >clicking quit. What in the world! I didnt even move in my chair, much > >less mess with any connections. I could not get it to come back on > >again. What would be a good thing to check first? Is there something to > >cut power to this? I reset my breakers, and tried everything to get it > >to come back.. I want my Retarder back!!! I had the engine/ignition > >off, and nothing else on. > >Stephen H > >81 FC-33SB > >Plant CIty, FL > > > > > > > Electric Retarder - Stephen H - 10-07-2006 15:09 Jeff, Yes, This unit was added on at a shop in Atlanta in 5/20/83 by "Diesel Systems Company" for $5,500.00. I have the orig. receipt on install. Seems the unit is not hooked to ign key, because when I got it to work, the key was out, and nothing on. I will pull the dash plate off, and follow the wires, and see where they lead. Thank you for the help on this everyone!!! Stephen H 81 FC-33SB Plant City, FL _____ From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Miller Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:21 PM To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Electric Retarder Difficult to say how the retarder is wired on an '81 as they weren't equipped until '83, might not be a bluprint at all. It might be best to simply re-wire the retarder control supply circuit through a new ignition-controlled relay and breaker. Faster to do it right than to figure out how it was done wrong. - Jeff Miller in Holland, MI --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider" > > Steve: > > I don't have the prints in front of me, I would start by checking the input > power for a faulty or corroded connection. Then find the circuit breaker > the control power is connected to, you may have weak breaker. Just a couple > of thoughts. > > Safe travels, > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider > Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma > >,_._,___ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Electric Retarder - davidkerryedwards - 10-08-2006 03:01 Mine was also an aftermarket install. On mine the junction for wires, or what I might call the 'control box' (?) is in the right front storage compartment. Do you have an on/off switch on your joystick? By the way, does anyone know a source for the joystick plastic cover? Mine was missing when I purchased the Bird and I haven't found a source for a replacement. Kerry 82 Fc 35 Denver --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen H" <share@...> wrote: > > Jeff, > > Yes, This unit was added on at a shop in Atlanta in 5/20/83 by "Diesel > Systems Company" for $5,500.00. I have the orig. receipt on install. > > > > Seems the unit is not hooked to ign key, because when I got it to work, the > key was out, and nothing on. I will pull the dash plate off, and follow the > wires, and see where they lead. Thank you for the help on this everyone!!! > > > > Stephen H > > 81 FC-33SB > > Plant City, FL > > > > _____ > > From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Miller > Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:21 PM > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Electric Retarder > > > > Difficult to say how the retarder is wired on an '81 as they weren't > equipped until '83, might not be a bluprint at all. It might be best > to simply re-wire the retarder control supply circuit through a new > ignition-controlled relay and breaker. Faster to do it right than to > figure out how it was done wrong. > > - Jeff Miller > in Holland, MI > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ > yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider" > > > > > Steve: > > > > I don't have the prints in front of me, I would start by checking > the input > > power for a faulty or corroded connection. Then find the circuit > breaker > > the control power is connected to, you may have weak breaker. Just > a couple > > of thoughts. > > > > Safe travels, > > > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider > > Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma > > > >,_._,___ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Electric Retarder - erniecarpet@... - 10-17-2006 08:25 Stephen, when I had my FC, I would notice on my voltmeter, that the retarder consumed a lot of voltage- does your voltmeter take a nose dive? Ernie Ekberg 83 PT40 Livingston, Montana [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Electric Retarder - Stephen H - 10-17-2006 09:33 Hi everyone- Just an update about the electric retarder-It was the main 10A fuse from the electric panel above the coach batteries- Corrosion was the culprit. I got some sand paper and cleaned the fuse, and the contacts- now even my spotlight works like new, in all directions!!! Thank you all for your help!! P.S.- The electric retarder REALLY WORKS great! It will bring me to a stop very nicely! Really will save wear and tear on the service brakes! Stephen H. 81 FC-33SB Plant City, FL _____ From: Stephen H [mailto:share@...] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 11:09 PM To: 'WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com' Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Electric Retarder Jeff, Yes, This unit was added on at a shop in Atlanta in 5/20/83 by "Diesel Systems Company" for $5,500.00. I have the orig. receipt on install. Seems the unit is not hooked to ign key, because when I got it to work, the key was out, and nothing on. I will pull the dash plate off, and follow the wires, and see where they lead. Thank you for the help on this everyone!!! Stephen H 81 FC-33SB Plant City, FL _____ From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Miller Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:21 PM To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Electric Retarder Difficult to say how the retarder is wired on an '81 as they weren't equipped until '83, might not be a bluprint at all. It might be best to simply re-wire the retarder control supply circuit through a new ignition-controlled relay and breaker. Faster to do it right than to figure out how it was done wrong. - Jeff Miller in Holland, MI --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider" > > Steve: > > I don't have the prints in front of me, I would start by checking the input > power for a faulty or corroded connection. Then find the circuit breaker > the control power is connected to, you may have weak breaker. Just a couple > of thoughts. > > Safe travels, > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider > Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma > >,_._,___ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Electric Retarder - Stephen H - 10-17-2006 13:09 Ernie, Not too much.. When I have it on Hi (4 I think) to come to a stop, it will start to go down a little. I'm sure on a mountain or extended time it would. I could not believe the stopping power it has. It's like putting on the brakes. Stephen H 81 FC-33SB Plant City, FL _____ From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of erniecarpet@... Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 8:25 PM To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: FW: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Electric Retarder Stephen, when I had my FC, I would notice on my voltmeter, that the retarder consumed a lot of voltage- does your voltmeter take a nose dive? Ernie Ekberg 83 PT40 Livingston, Montana [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Electric Retarder - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 10-19-2006 17:13 The electric retarder consumes a lot of current, which drives the voltage down. In the manual it states that for long downgrades you can use 1 or 2, and only use 3 and 4 for very short periods. The current draw is about 50 amps for 1, 120 amps for 2, 250 amps for 3 and 320 amps for 4. The amps could be a little bit different but close, so when you are using the retarder, make sure your engine speed is up at 2000 or so, so your alternator is putting out maximum charge. Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge" Terrace, B.C. Canada ----- Original Message ---- From: Stephen H <share@...> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 6:09:42 PM Subject: RE: FW: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Electric Retarder Ernie, Not too much.. When I have it on Hi (4 I think) to come to a stop, it will start to go down a little. I'm sure on a mountain or extended time it would. I could not believe the stopping power it has. It's like putting on the brakes. Stephen H 81 FC-33SB Plant City, FL _____ From: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of erniecarpet@ aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 8:25 PM To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: FW: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Electric Retarder Stephen, when I had my FC, I would notice on my voltmeter, that the retarder consumed a lot of voltage- does your voltmeter take a nose dive? 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