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Want to buy Bluebird - Larry Parmenter - 11-20-2007 16:56 Hi, We're looking for our first bird, 31-37 ft? Anyone with advice would be welcome. Thanks, Larry & Linda Bandon, OR larrylarry75@... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Want to buy Bluebird - bubblerboy64 - 11-21-2007 02:25 Larry, Having been thru this last year this forum will help you a lot. Study the "Bill Board" and other online sites. Spend some money and time traveling to see and touch the best prospects and above all be patient until "the one" shows up. And be ready to move when it does. The most important thing for me was to get out and see a couple BB's so that I had an idea of what would suit my personal needs. A lot depends on how you intend to use the bus. Long distance travel? Living in it for extended periods? Local short trips? How many people etc, etc? And then your budget for the project. John Heckman central Pa 1973 FC > > Hi, > We're looking for our first bird, 31-37 ft? Anyone with advice would be welcome. > Thanks, > Larry & Linda > Bandon, OR > > larrylarry75@... > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Want to buy Bluebird - Rob Robinson - 11-21-2007 03:15 Larry you can find birds for sale at http://www.buybyebluebird.com or http://www.birdconnection.com or vintage birds On 20/11/2007, Larry Parmenter > > Hi, > We're looking for our first bird, 31-37 ft? Anyone with advice would be > welcome. > Thanks, > Larry & Linda > Bandon, OR > > larrylarry75@... > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson 94 WLWB [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Want to buy Bluebird - Ryan Wright - 11-21-2007 07:53 On Nov 20, 2007 8:56 PM, Larry Parmenter > > We're looking for our first bird, 31-37 ft? Anyone with advice would be > welcome. 1. Patience, patience. Don't get excited and blind yourself to obvious problems. Inspect any potential coach thoroughly or pay someone knowledgeable to inspect it for you if you aren't comfortable doing so. 2. Have cash or loan pre-approval in place. That way, when you find the right one, you can jump on it. 3. I'm about 8 hours northeast of you. If you ever make it up this way, you're welcome to come tour my coach to get ideas, etc. If you haven't been in a Wanderlodge before, do so. 4. If you're looking to go 37 feet, might as well go 40 feet. The PT-40 is really a palace on wheels and quite easy to drive. -Ryan '86 PT-40 8V92 Tri-Cities, WA Want to buy Bluebird - erniecarpet@... - 11-21-2007 08:02 Or-- in the database of this forum look in the classifieds section birdconnection.birdconnection. Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Weatherford, Tx **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Want to buy Bluebird - John McGinnis - 11-22-2007 05:36 Once upon a time... Buying a Wanderlodge is a lot like buying your first home. First only look at Birds within your means, if you're on a beer budget don't pull out the Champagne glasses. There are a lot of similarities with the two purchases. Don't even look at birds out of your budget range, by doing so will only lead to disapointment. Next you would not buy a home without a home inspection, so you should get a Pre-Delivery Inspection on your potential Bird. Find someone in your area or the area of the bird who is knowledgable on that particular coach and hire them to go over the systems with you. This will let you know what works, and what needs repairs or replacement, and a PDI is a great negoiaging tool and you have leverage when it comes to writing the check. Another issue; you would not buy a house without an appraisal, nor would a lender loan money on a home without a certified appraisal, so get a certified appraisal on any potential purchase. A PDI & an appraisal are not the same thing they serve two differnt purposes. Do not rely on NADA or Ebay as reliable sources of value, nor the past sells by desperate sellers. None of these are true representations of real value. NADA may have had only one subject sold in the last quarter and that coach could be the best coach on the worst day of public auction with no competitive bidders. That is not a true representation of value, you want to pay a fair market value and get a coach that is worth 100% or more of what you paid. Another reason for the appraisal is if by chance you are able to find the once in the lifetime bargain you would want to insure your coach for it's true replacement value. A 200K dollar coach bought for a 100K and insured for 100K then written off as a total lose, the insurance company will not pay the difference in value, so get it insured for the full value, the only way to do this is with a certified appraisal. Financing: DON'T do it! Can't write a check wait until you can. A loan payment on a Bird is no fun when you don't have the money to buy fuel for the fun trips or the extra cash to make upgrades and repairs when needed. Last thing you should know about Bluebirds, it is at times easier & quicker to get a divorce then it is to sell a Bluebird, so know what you are getting into and be prepared to make the commitment because it is most of the time for the long haul. Good luck & happy hunting. John 88FC35 Louisville, KY/Jeffersonville, IN Want to buy Bluebird - mbulriss - 11-22-2007 06:33 John, IMO that is one of the best write-ups that I have seen in a long time for wannabes. Good job! Mike Bulriss 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" San Antonio, TX --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "John McGinnis" > > Once upon a time... Buying a Wanderlodge is a lot like buying your > first home. First only look at Birds within your means, if you're on > a beer budget don't pull out the Champagne glasses. There are a lot > of similarities with the two purchases. Don't even look at birds out > of your budget range, by doing so will only lead to disapointment. > Next you would not buy a home without a home inspection, so you > should get a Pre-Delivery Inspection on your potential Bird. Find > someone in your area or the area of the bird who is knowledgable on > that particular coach and hire them to go over the systems with you. > This will let you know what works, and what needs repairs or > replacement, and a PDI is a great negoiaging tool and you have > leverage when it comes to writing the check. Another issue; you > would not buy a house without an appraisal, nor would a lender loan > money on a home without a certified appraisal, so get a certified > appraisal on any potential purchase. A PDI & an appraisal are not > the same thing they serve two differnt purposes. Do not rely on NADA > or Ebay as reliable sources of value, nor the past sells by desperate > sellers. None of these are true representations of real value. NADA > may have had only one subject sold in the last quarter and that coach > could be the best coach on the worst day of public auction with no > competitive bidders. That is not a true representation of value, you > want to pay a fair market value and get a coach that is worth 100% or > more of what you paid. Another reason for the appraisal is if by > chance you are able to find the once in the lifetime bargain you > would want to insure your coach for it's true replacement value. A > 200K dollar coach bought for a 100K and insured for 100K then written > off as a total lose, the insurance company will not pay the > difference in value, so get it insured for the full value, the only > way to do this is with a certified appraisal. > Financing: DON'T do it! Can't write a check wait until you can. A > loan payment on a Bird is no fun when you don't have the money to buy > fuel for the fun trips or the extra cash to make upgrades and repairs > when needed. > Last thing you should know about Bluebirds, it is at times easier & > quicker to get a divorce then it is to sell a Bluebird, so know what > you are getting into and be prepared to make the commitment because > it is most of the time for the long haul. Good luck & happy hunting. > John 88FC35 Louisville, KY/Jeffersonville, IN > Want to buy Bluebird - Peter T. Arnold - 11-22-2007 11:49 Great write-up. I do not completely agree with "Don't finance it" Lot's of reasons in my life to leave the capitol invested and take the tax advantage of long tern financing. YMMV Pete On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:36:53 -0000, you wrote: >Once upon a time... Buying a Wanderlodge is a lot like buying your >first home. First only look at Birds within your means, if you're on >a beer budget don't pull out the Champagne glasses. There are a lot >of similarities with the two purchases. Don't even look at birds out >of your budget range, by doing so will only lead to disapointment. >Next you would not buy a home without a home inspection, so you >should get a Pre-Delivery Inspection on your potential Bird. Find >someone in your area or the area of the bird who is knowledgable on >that particular coach and hire them to go over the systems with you. >This will let you know what works, and what needs repairs or >replacement, and a PDI is a great negoiaging tool and you have >leverage when it comes to writing the check. Another issue; you >would not buy a house without an appraisal, nor would a lender loan >money on a home without a certified appraisal, so get a certified >appraisal on any potential purchase. A PDI & an appraisal are not >the same thing they serve two differnt purposes. Do not rely on NADA >or Ebay as reliable sources of value, nor the past sells by desperate >sellers. None of these are true representations of real value. NADA >may have had only one subject sold in the last quarter and that coach >could be the best coach on the worst day of public auction with no >competitive bidders. That is not a true representation of value, you >want to pay a fair market value and get a coach that is worth 100% or >more of what you paid. Another reason for the appraisal is if by >chance you are able to find the once in the lifetime bargain you >would want to insure your coach for it's true replacement value. A >200K dollar coach bought for a 100K and insured for 100K then written >off as a total lose, the insurance company will not pay the >difference in value, so get it insured for the full value, the only >way to do this is with a certified appraisal. >Financing: DON'T do it! Can't write a check wait until you can. A >loan payment on a Bird is no fun when you don't have the money to buy >fuel for the fun trips or the extra cash to make upgrades and repairs >when needed. >Last thing you should know about Bluebirds, it is at times easier & >quicker to get a divorce then it is to sell a Bluebird, so know what >you are getting into and be prepared to make the commitment because >it is most of the time for the long haul. Good luck & happy hunting. >John 88FC35 Louisville, KY/Jeffersonville, IN -- Fraternal Regards, Peter T. Arnold Worthy Patron, Temple Chapter #53 {3rd Time} Hartford Evergreen Lodge #88 Past Master Meets on 1st and 3rd Mondays Washington Lodge #70, Past Master 1997 2nd and 4th Monday Yahoo 6th District B.L.C. Newsgroup Co-Moderator Past A.G.M., Masonic District 6B Grand Lodge of Connecticut A.F. & A.M. As you can see, I'm busy on Mondays! Want to buy Bluebird - Scott Forman - 11-22-2007 15:23 I want to echo that, financing is not all bad, although I would advise against financing 100% of the cost and keep the term short. Scott Forman 86 PT38 Memphis --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Peter T. Arnold > > Great write-up. > > I do not completely agree with "Don't finance it" Lot's of reasons in > my life to leave the capitol invested and take the tax advantage of > long tern financing. > > YMMV > > Pete > > On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:36:53 -0000, you wrote: > > >Once upon a time... Buying a Wanderlodge is a lot like buying your > >first home. First only look at Birds within your means, if you're on > >a beer budget don't pull out the Champagne glasses. There are a lot > >of similarities with the two purchases. Don't even look at birds out > >of your budget range, by doing so will only lead to disapointment. > >Next you would not buy a home without a home inspection, so you > >should get a Pre-Delivery Inspection on your potential Bird. Find > >someone in your area or the area of the bird who is knowledgable on > >that particular coach and hire them to go over the systems with you. > >This will let you know what works, and what needs repairs or > >replacement, and a PDI is a great negoiaging tool and you have > >leverage when it comes to writing the check. Another issue; you > >would not buy a house without an appraisal, nor would a lender loan > >money on a home without a certified appraisal, so get a certified > >appraisal on any potential purchase. A PDI & an appraisal are not > >the same thing they serve two differnt purposes. Do not rely on NADA > >or Ebay as reliable sources of value, nor the past sells by desperate > >sellers. None of these are true representations of real value. NADA > >may have had only one subject sold in the last quarter and that coach > >could be the best coach on the worst day of public auction with no > >competitive bidders. That is not a true representation of value, you > >want to pay a fair market value and get a coach that is worth 100% or > >more of what you paid. Another reason for the appraisal is if by > >chance you are able to find the once in the lifetime bargain you > >would want to insure your coach for it's true replacement value. A > >200K dollar coach bought for a 100K and insured for 100K then written > >off as a total lose, the insurance company will not pay the > >difference in value, so get it insured for the full value, the only > >way to do this is with a certified appraisal. > >Financing: DON'T do it! Can't write a check wait until you can. A > >loan payment on a Bird is no fun when you don't have the money to buy > >fuel for the fun trips or the extra cash to make upgrades and repairs > >when needed. > >Last thing you should know about Bluebirds, it is at times easier & > >quicker to get a divorce then it is to sell a Bluebird, so know what > >you are getting into and be prepared to make the commitment because > >it is most of the time for the long haul. Good luck & happy hunting. > >John 88FC35 Louisville, KY/Jeffersonville, IN > > -- > > Fraternal Regards, > > Peter T. Arnold > > Worthy Patron, Temple Chapter #53 {3rd Time} > > Hartford Evergreen Lodge #88 Past Master > Meets on 1st and 3rd Mondays > > Washington Lodge #70, Past Master 1997 > 2nd and 4th Monday > > Yahoo 6th District B.L.C. Newsgroup Co-Moderator > > Past A.G.M., Masonic District 6B > Grand Lodge of Connecticut A.F. & A.M. > > As you can see, I'm busy on Mondays! > Want to buy Bluebird - Gregory OConnor - 11-22-2007 17:06 Financing is the way bankers pay cash for their motorhomes. Good reasons to finance are sales pitches GregoryO'Connor 94ptRomoland --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@...> wrote: > > I want to echo that, financing is not all bad, although I would > advise against financing 100% of the cost and keep the term short. > > Scott Forman > 86 PT38 > Memphis > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Peter T. Arnold > > > > Great write-up. > > > > I do not completely agree with "Don't finance it" Lot's of reasons > in > > my life to leave the capitol invested and take the tax advantage of > > long tern financing. > > > > YMMV > > > > Pete > > > > On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:36:53 -0000, you wrote: > > > > >Once upon a time... Buying a Wanderlodge is a lot like buying > your > > >first home. First only look at Birds within your means, if you're > on > > >a beer budget don't pull out the Champagne glasses. There are a > lot > > >of similarities with the two purchases. Don't even look at birds > out > > >of your budget range, by doing so will only lead to > disapointment. > > >Next you would not buy a home without a home inspection, so you > > >should get a Pre-Delivery Inspection on your potential Bird. Find > > >someone in your area or the area of the bird who is knowledgable > on > > >that particular coach and hire them to go over the systems with > you. > > >This will let you know what works, and what needs repairs or > > >replacement, and a PDI is a great negoiaging tool and you have > > >leverage when it comes to writing the check. Another issue; you > > >would not buy a house without an appraisal, nor would a lender > loan > > >money on a home without a certified appraisal, so get a certified > > >appraisal on any potential purchase. A PDI & an appraisal are not > > >the same thing they serve two differnt purposes. Do not rely on > NADA > > >or Ebay as reliable sources of value, nor the past sells by > desperate > > >sellers. None of these are true representations of real value. > NADA > > >may have had only one subject sold in the last quarter and that > coach > > >could be the best coach on the worst day of public auction with no > > >competitive bidders. That is not a true representation of value, > you > > >want to pay a fair market value and get a coach that is worth 100% > or > > >more of what you paid. Another reason for the appraisal is if by > > >chance you are able to find the once in the lifetime bargain you > > >would want to insure your coach for it's true replacement value. > A > > >200K dollar coach bought for a 100K and insured for 100K then > written > > >off as a total lose, the insurance company will not pay the > > >difference in value, so get it insured for the full value, the > only > > >way to do this is with a certified appraisal. > > >Financing: DON'T do it! Can't write a check wait until you can. A > > >loan payment on a Bird is no fun when you don't have the money to > buy > > >fuel for the fun trips or the extra cash to make upgrades and > repairs > > >when needed. > > >Last thing you should know about Bluebirds, it is at times easier > & > > >quicker to get a divorce then it is to sell a Bluebird, so know > what > > >you are getting into and be prepared to make the commitment > because > > >it is most of the time for the long haul. Good luck & happy > hunting. > > >John 88FC35 Louisville, KY/Jeffersonville, IN > > > > -- > > > > Fraternal Regards, > > > > Peter T. Arnold > > > > Worthy Patron, Temple Chapter #53 {3rd Time} > > > > Hartford Evergreen Lodge #88 Past Master > > Meets on 1st and 3rd Mondays > > > > Washington Lodge #70, Past Master 1997 > > 2nd and 4th Monday > > > > Yahoo 6th District B.L.C. Newsgroup Co-Moderator > > > > Past A.G.M., Masonic District 6B > > Grand Lodge of Connecticut A.F. & A.M. > > > > As you can see, I'm busy on Mondays! > > > |