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dry camping - medpro28 - 12-01-2007 08:08 Just purchased a 2005 LXi and need some advice on dry camping. I cook in bbq contests and sometimes no power or 110 only. Dealer says I will have to use the generator all the time. Although the unit is all electric, will not use the stove top or microwave while camping. It is hard to believe I can't dry camp any length of time and then use generator to keep batteries up. Is the dealers advice right or does anyone have thoughts or suggestions? Jerry Smith 2005 450 LXI dry camping - bubblerboy64 - 12-01-2007 09:44 Jerry, Your manuals should be of help here. Essentially the generator supplies 110 volts for things for which for lack of a better term I will call house hold electric devices. Air conditioning and the micro wave are two items which in my old bus are only run when I am plugged into a shore line or running my generator. The refrig can be run on propane and the lights and fans to the heaters are 12 volt DC. So I can dry camp and only run the generator If I need to use the two items mentioned or to watch television which in my ole girl is run strickly on the 110 volt currents. Now, you have a much newer ( way newer bus) and I have to think that in addition you have an inverter which takes power from you battery banks to run some of your 110 applicances like the TV I would think certainly. This should be outlined in your manuals and I am certain others with similar equipment will chip in here. So the dealers is right and wrong. If you camp with no electic plug in you will be limited to a degree as to what and how long you can run your verious equipment. I can hardly believe they sold you a bus of the caliber you no doubt are the very proud owner of with out giving you a little more help and information John Heckman central Pa 1973 FC > > Just purchased a 2005 LXi and need some advice on dry camping. I cook > in bbq contests and sometimes no power or 110 only. Dealer says I will > have to use the generator all the time. Although the unit is all > electric, will not use the stove top or microwave while camping. It is > hard to believe I can't dry camp any length of time and then use > generator to keep batteries up. > Is the dealers advice right or does anyone have thoughts or suggestions? > > Jerry Smith > 2005 450 LXI > dry camping - martingregg598 - 12-01-2007 09:46 Hi Jerry, I dry camp all the time, things to consider, when driving down the road with the inverters on and several other systems running, it's possible to be pulling out more power from the house batteries than you are putting in? When you get where you're going, start the generator and run out the slides and level the coach that way you don't pull down the batteries first thing, batteries should only be discharged to 50%, or let the auto start for the generator do it's thing. The refrigerator, if residential style, will be the big draw. Nothing some solar panels couldn't handle. Marty Gregg 95 BMC 37 Kennewick WA dry camping - Gary Smith - 12-01-2007 09:46 Jerry, Dealer is right on for the most part. Your 120v refrigerator gobbles 30-40 amps of 12v power (via the inverter) each hour, so even a 4-6 hour period will draw down your house batteries something serious, and that's with everything else turned off, if you can. Gary SOB ----- Original Message ----- From: "medpro28" <medpro@...> To: Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 3:08 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] dry camping Just purchased a 2005 LXi and need some advice on dry camping. I cook in bbq contests and sometimes no power or 110 only. Dealer says I will have to use the generator all the time. Although the unit is all electric, will not use the stove top or microwave while camping. It is hard to believe I can't dry camp any length of time and then use generator to keep batteries up. Is the dealers advice right or does anyone have thoughts or suggestions? Jerry Smith 2005 450 LXI dry camping - bumpersbird - 12-01-2007 09:50 Jerry, You should have a blue box, ( portable file box), full of info on your new coach. If you don't use the air which even in the best case senario would only be a few hours, befor you had to start the genny, You should be able to go for three days or more if you careful, just using the batteries and the inveters. Who did you buy your coach from? I'm sure several peoplr will chim in here. I've gone several days without plugging in, I did have to run the generator during the day for a few hours just to keep the Batts. up but that really not a problem unless you get into quite hours. Good luck Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 WLWB 10AC --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "medpro28" <medpro@...> wrote: > > Just purchased a 2005 LXi and need some advice on dry camping. I cook > in bbq contests and sometimes no power or 110 only. Dealer says I will > have to use the generator all the time. Although the unit is all > electric, will not use the stove top or microwave while camping. It is > hard to believe I can't dry camp any length of time and then use > generator to keep batteries up. > Is the dealers advice right or does anyone have thoughts or suggestions? > > Jerry Smith > 2005 450 LXI > dry camping - bumpersbird - 12-01-2007 09:50 Jerry, You should have a blue box, ( portable file box), full of info on your new coach. If you don't use the air which even in the best case senario would only be a few hours, befor you had to start the genny, You should be able to go for three days or more if you careful, just using the batteries and the inveters. Who did you buy your coach from? I'm sure several peoplr will chim in here. I've gone several days without plugging in, I did have to run the generator during the day for a few hours just to keep the Batts. up but that really not a problem unless you get into quite hours. Good luck Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 WLWB 10AC --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "medpro28" <medpro@...> wrote: > > Just purchased a 2005 LXi and need some advice on dry camping. I cook > in bbq contests and sometimes no power or 110 only. Dealer says I will > have to use the generator all the time. Although the unit is all > electric, will not use the stove top or microwave while camping. It is > hard to believe I can't dry camp any length of time and then use > generator to keep batteries up. > Is the dealers advice right or does anyone have thoughts or suggestions? > > Jerry Smith > 2005 450 LXI > dry camping - JERRY SMITH - 12-01-2007 10:22 Thanks for the reply have gone through the manual and the box. Can find nothing on the auto start for the generator and see no digital read out in the coach as to condition of the batteries. Bought coach at Parliament. Previous plastic coaches I had all had digital read out on condition of batteries. Jerry Smith -------Original Message------- From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: 12/01/07 16:50:51 To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: dry camping Jerry, You should have a blue box, ( portable file box), full of info on your new coach. If you don't use the air which even in the best case senario would only be a few hours, befor you had to start the genny, You should be able to go for three days or more if you careful, just using the batteries and the inveters. Who did you buy your coach from? I'm sure several peoplr will chim in here. I've gone several days without plugging in, I did have to run the generator during the day for a few hours just to keep the Batts. up but that really not a problem unless you get into quite hours. Good luck Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 WLWB 10AC --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "medpro28" <medpro@...> wrote: > > Just purchased a 2005 LXi and need some advice on dry camping. I cook > in bbq contests and sometimes no power or 110 only. Dealer says I will > have to use the generator all the time. Although the unit is all > electric, will not use the stove top or microwave while camping. It is > hard to believe I can't dry camp any length of time and then use > generator to keep batteries up. > Is the dealers advice right or does anyone have thoughts or suggestions? > > Jerry Smith > 2005 450 LXI > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] dry camping - Ross MacKillop - 12-02-2007 01:49 Hi Jerry, Digital readout should be above driver on left "Intellitec generator logic control" Hit the up or down button to change display Time- timer - coach volts ac -Gen. total time and Ac off. If you have that unit, it will start genni similar to dash switch. I haven't used auto start yet but will read that stuff today. Let me know if you have that panel. I find that battery depletion is too fast but I have found several fans and pumps renning all the time. The cooling fan thermisters for the audio units were set too low. The fan for the inverters ran all the time. There is a fan in the 2nd road side luggage that still runs Possibly the slide control stuff. With the webasto- the recirc runs continuously- I think it shoud cut off when the therostats aren't "Calling ". Ross MacKillop 2006 450 LXi Cambridge Ont. In Nashville ----- Original Message ---- From: JERRY SMITH <medpro@...> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2007 5:22:51 PM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: dry camping Thanks for the reply have gone through the manual and the box. Can find nothing on the auto start for the generator and see no digital read out in the coach as to condition of the batteries. Bought coach at Parliament. Previous plastic coaches I had all had digital read out on condition of batteries. Jerry Smith -------Original Message----- -- From: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Date: 12/01/07 16:50:51 To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: dry camping Jerry, You should have a blue box, ( portable file box), full of info on your new coach. If you don't use the air which even in the best case senario would only be a few hours, befor you had to start the genny, You should be able to go for three days or more if you careful, just using the batteries and the inveters. Who did you buy your coach from? I'm sure several peoplr will chim in here. I've gone several days without plugging in, I did have to run the generator during the day for a few hours just to keep the Batts. up but that really not a problem unless you get into quite hours. Good luck Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 WLWB 10AC --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "medpro28" <medpro@...> wrote: > > Just purchased a 2005 LXi and need some advice on dry camping. I cook > in bbq contests and sometimes no power or 110 only. Dealer says I will > have to use the generator all the time. Although the unit is all > electric, will not use the stove top or microwave while camping. It is > hard to believe I can't dry camp any length of time and then use > generator to keep batteries up. > Is the dealers advice right or does anyone have thoughts or suggestions? > > Jerry Smith > 2005 450 LXI > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] <!-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} --> <!-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} --> <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} .bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} .MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} .replbq{margin:4;} --> Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] dry camping - JERRY SMITH - 12-02-2007 04:03 Ross, thank you for the response, I believe I met you at Parliament when you came back after going to Sanibel. I have the Intellitec control, but can find nothing in the manual or in the box of files on this instrument. Let me know if you find out about the auto start. I would like to know how it is set. You are right about the various fans. They do run a lot. Have you tried to dry camp any, since your coach is similar to mine? Jerry Smith -------Original Message------- From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: 12/02/07 08:49:30 To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: dry camping Hi Jerry, Digital readout should be above driver on left "Intellitec generator logic control" Hit the up or down button to change display Time- timer - coach volts ac -Gen. total time and Ac off. If you have that unit, it will start genni similar to dash switch. I haven't used auto start yet but will read that stuff today. Let me know if you have that panel. I find that battery depletion is too fast but I have found several fans and pumps renning all the time. The cooling fan thermisters for the audio units were set too low. The fan for the inverters ran all the time. There is a fan in the 2nd road side luggage that still runs Possibly the slide control stuff. With the webasto- the recirc runs continuously- I think it shoud cut off when the therostats aren't "Calling ". Ross MacKillop 2006 450 LXi Cambridge Ont. In Nashville ----- Original Message ---- From: JERRY SMITH <medpro@...> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2007 5:22:51 PM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: dry camping Thanks for the reply have gone through the manual and the box. Can find nothing on the auto start for the generator and see no digital read out in the coach as to condition of the batteries. Bought coach at Parliament. Previous plastic coaches I had all had digital read out on condition of batteries. Jerry Smith -------Original Message----- -- From: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Date: 12/01/07 16:50:51 To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: dry camping Jerry, You should have a blue box, ( portable file box), full of info on your new coach. If you don't use the air which even in the best case senario would only be a few hours, befor you had to start the genny, You should be able to go for three days or more if you careful, just using the batteries and the inveters. Who did you buy your coach from? I'm sure several peoplr will chim in here. I've gone several days without plugging in, I did have to run the generator during the day for a few hours just to keep the Batts. up but that really not a problem unless you get into quite hours. Good luck Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 WLWB 10AC --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "medpro28" <medpro@...> wrote: > > Just purchased a 2005 LXi and need some advice on dry camping. I cook > in bbq contests and sometimes no power or 110 only. Dealer says I will > have to use the generator all the time. Although the unit is all > electric, will not use the stove top or microwave while camping. It is > hard to believe I can't dry camp any length of time and then use > generator to keep batteries up. > Is the dealers advice right or does anyone have thoughts or suggestions? > > Jerry Smith > 2005 450 LXI > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] <!-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px } #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} --> <!-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} --> <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif } #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} ..bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333 text-transform:uppercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right padding-right:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100% line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} ..MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} ..replbq{margin:4;} --> Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] dry camping - medpro28 - 12-02-2007 04:14 Thanks to all that responded on my dry camping problem. Jerry Smith 2005 450 LXI Sarasota, Fl. |