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Wide body exhuast removal - ronmarabito2002 - 12-05-2007 12:20 Hi all: Anyone done their own removal and reinstall of exhaust stack in the chase of a WB coach? I have a 92WB40. I have removed the top tip and the top bracket holding the top of the muffler to the chase. There is another similar bracket at the bottom of the muffler, which is about 16" up from the bottom of the chase. Anyone have any idea how to remove these bolts. Also, how about loosening the clamp on the pipe. I could use a long extension on the bottom, but what happens when the top nuts start turning. It is at least 4 feet down from the top of the chase. All the elbows are rusted together where they join other pipes. BB put the wrong kind of tip on top and the rain has gotten in and rusted everything. The muffler itself looks pretty good. I'd love to have a conversation with the *#!*) that designed this install. Any suggestions? R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40 Wide body exhuast removal - Rob Robinson - 12-05-2007 12:59 Ron the only guy that I know who has replaced this muffler is Randy. If I have to do mine we're going to put in a straight pipe with no muffler first to see how loud it is. With a turbo there is a chance that it won't be too loud. I did this with a 94 Chev Turbo Diesel PU and it was throaty but not obnoxious. We'll see I guess. On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 > > Hi all: > > Anyone done their own removal and reinstall of exhaust stack in the > chase of a WB coach? I have a 92WB40. > > I have removed the top tip and the top bracket holding the top of > the muffler to the chase. There is another similar bracket at the > bottom of the muffler, which is about 16" up from the bottom of the > chase. Anyone have any idea how to remove these bolts. Also, how > about loosening the clamp on the pipe. I could use a long extension on > the bottom, but what happens when the top nuts start turning. It is > at least 4 feet down from the top of the chase. > > All the elbows are rusted together where they join other pipes. > BB put the wrong kind of tip on top and the rain has gotten in and > rusted everything. The muffler itself looks pretty good. > > I'd love to have a conversation with the *#!*) that designed this > install. > > Any suggestions? > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40 > > > -- Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson 94 WLWB [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Wide body exhuast removal - ronmarabito2002 - 12-05-2007 13:32 Thanks Rob. Frankly, I was thinking of the same thing, but my first problem is getting the darn thing out of the hole. Randy has responded and said that he and a friend pulled it out, but he hasn't said how yet. R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson" > > Ron the only guy that I know who has replaced this muffler is Randy. If I > have to do mine we're going to put in a straight pipe with no muffler > first to see how loud it is. With a turbo there is a chance that it won't be > too loud. I did this with a 94 Chev Turbo Diesel PU and it was throaty but > not obnoxious. We'll see I guess. > > On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 > > > > Hi all: > > > > Anyone done their own removal and reinstall of exhaust stack in the > > chase of a WB coach? I have a 92WB40. > > > > I have removed the top tip and the top bracket holding the top of > > the muffler to the chase. There is another similar bracket at the > > bottom of the muffler, which is about 16" up from the bottom of the > > chase. Anyone have any idea how to remove these bolts. Also, how > > about loosening the clamp on the pipe. I could use a long extension on > > the bottom, but what happens when the top nuts start turning. It is > > at least 4 feet down from the top of the chase. > > > > All the elbows are rusted together where they join other pipes. > > BB put the wrong kind of tip on top and the rain has gotten in and > > rusted everything. The muffler itself looks pretty good. > > > > I'd love to have a conversation with the *#!*) that designed this > > install. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40 > > > > > > > > > > -- > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson > 94 WLWB > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Wide body exhuast removal - Rob Robinson - 12-05-2007 13:43 I'm sure he'll elaborate on his removal. It would be very interesting if you put in a temporary straight piece of pipe to see what it would sound like without a muffler. I hope you do as this could be a major cost and possibly labour saving DIY On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 > > Thanks Rob. Frankly, I was thinking of the same thing, but my first > problem is getting the darn thing out of the hole. Randy has > responded and said that he and a friend pulled it out, but he hasn't > said how yet. > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > "Rob Robinson" > > > > > Ron the only guy that I know who has replaced this muffler is Randy. > If I > > have to do mine we're going to put in a straight pipe with no muffler > > first to see how loud it is. With a turbo there is a chance that it > won't be > > too loud. I did this with a 94 Chev Turbo Diesel PU and it was > throaty but > > not obnoxious. We'll see I guess. > > > > On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 > > > > > > Hi all: > > > > > > Anyone done their own removal and reinstall of exhaust stack in the > > > chase of a WB coach? I have a 92WB40. > > > > > > I have removed the top tip and the top bracket holding the top of > > > the muffler to the chase. There is another similar bracket at the > > > bottom of the muffler, which is about 16" up from the bottom of the > > > chase. Anyone have any idea how to remove these bolts. Also, how > > > about loosening the clamp on the pipe. I could use a long extension on > > > the bottom, but what happens when the top nuts start turning. It is > > > at least 4 feet down from the top of the chase. > > > > > > All the elbows are rusted together where they join other pipes. > > > BB put the wrong kind of tip on top and the rain has gotten in and > > > rusted everything. The muffler itself looks pretty good. > > > > > > I'd love to have a conversation with the *#!*) that designed this > > > install. > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson > > 94 WLWB > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > -- Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson 94 WLWB [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Wide body exhuast removal - ronmarabito2002 - 12-05-2007 14:13 I just finished a conversation with Ralph Fullenwider. He did one on Jack & Liz's coach. Needless to say, it was awful and it took both to do it. They went back with a 5" muffler because the cost of the 6" muffler was more alone than what all the 5" pieces cost with the muffler. If a straight pipe isn't too expensive to try, I'll do it, otherwise we'll see. I wish I had someone close by that could give me a hand. I think it will take two people to accomplish. R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson" > > I'm sure he'll elaborate on his removal. It would be very interesting if you > put in a temporary straight piece of pipe to see what it would sound like > without a muffler. I hope you do as this could be a major cost and possibly > labour saving DIY > > On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 > > > > Thanks Rob. Frankly, I was thinking of the same thing, but my first > > problem is getting the darn thing out of the hole. Randy has > > responded and said that he and a friend pulled it out, but he hasn't > > said how yet. > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > "Rob Robinson" > > > > > > > > Ron the only guy that I know who has replaced this muffler is Randy. > > If I > > > have to do mine we're going to put in a straight pipe with no muffler > > > first to see how loud it is. With a turbo there is a chance that it > > won't be > > > too loud. I did this with a 94 Chev Turbo Diesel PU and it was > > throaty but > > > not obnoxious. We'll see I guess. > > > > > > On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 > > > > > > > > Hi all: > > > > > > > > Anyone done their own removal and reinstall of exhaust stack in the > > > > chase of a WB coach? I have a 92WB40. > > > > > > > > I have removed the top tip and the top bracket holding the top of > > > > the muffler to the chase. There is another similar bracket at the > > > > bottom of the muffler, which is about 16" up from the bottom of the > > > > chase. Anyone have any idea how to remove these bolts. Also, how > > > > about loosening the clamp on the pipe. I could use a long extension on > > > > the bottom, but what happens when the top nuts start turning. It is > > > > at least 4 feet down from the top of the chase. > > > > > > > > All the elbows are rusted together where they join other pipes. > > > > BB put the wrong kind of tip on top and the rain has gotten in and > > > > rusted everything. The muffler itself looks pretty good. > > > > > > > > I'd love to have a conversation with the *#!*) that designed this > > > > install. > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson > > > 94 WLWB > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson > 94 WLWB > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Wide body exhuast removal - Scott Forman - 12-05-2007 14:13 I know we are talking about different coaches, but my 86 PT with 8v92 is currently running with no muffler, and I will be adding one. It is loud enough to be a nuisance. Scott Forman 86 PT38 that my neighbors hate listening to Memphis --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson" > > I'm sure he'll elaborate on his removal. It would be very interesting if you > put in a temporary straight piece of pipe to see what it would sound like > without a muffler. I hope you do as this could be a major cost and possibly > labour saving DIY > > On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 > > > > Thanks Rob. Frankly, I was thinking of the same thing, but my first > > problem is getting the darn thing out of the hole. Randy has > > responded and said that he and a friend pulled it out, but he hasn't > > said how yet. > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > "Rob Robinson" > > > > > > > > Ron the only guy that I know who has replaced this muffler is Randy. > > If I > > > have to do mine we're going to put in a straight pipe with no muffler > > > first to see how loud it is. With a turbo there is a chance that it > > won't be > > > too loud. I did this with a 94 Chev Turbo Diesel PU and it was > > throaty but > > > not obnoxious. We'll see I guess. > > > > > > On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 > > > > > > > > Hi all: > > > > > > > > Anyone done their own removal and reinstall of exhaust stack in the > > > > chase of a WB coach? I have a 92WB40. > > > > > > > > I have removed the top tip and the top bracket holding the top of > > > > the muffler to the chase. There is another similar bracket at the > > > > bottom of the muffler, which is about 16" up from the bottom of the > > > > chase. Anyone have any idea how to remove these bolts. Also, how > > > > about loosening the clamp on the pipe. I could use a long extension on > > > > the bottom, but what happens when the top nuts start turning. It is > > > > at least 4 feet down from the top of the chase. > > > > > > > > All the elbows are rusted together where they join other pipes. > > > > BB put the wrong kind of tip on top and the rain has gotten in and > > > > rusted everything. The muffler itself looks pretty good. > > > > > > > > I'd love to have a conversation with the *#!*) that designed this > > > > install. > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson > > > 94 WLWB > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson > 94 WLWB > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Wide body exhuast removal - Pete Masterson - 12-05-2007 14:28 I note that Colorado has a law that "exhaust brakes must have mufflers" ... so that might be a factor depending on the type of retarder you have. Pete Masterson '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 aeonix1@... On the road at Golden Colorado On Dec 5, 2007, at 7:13 PM, Scott Forman wrote: > I know we are talking about different coaches, but my 86 PT with 8v92 > is currently running with no muffler, and I will be adding one. It > is loud enough to be a nuisance. > > Scott Forman > 86 PT38 that my neighbors hate listening to > Memphis Wide body exhuast removal - Jon - 12-05-2007 14:31 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002" > > I just finished a conversation with Ralph Fullenwider. He did one on > Jack & Liz's coach. Needless to say, it was awful and it took both to > do it. They went back with a 5" muffler because the cost of the 6" > muffler was more alone than what all the 5" pieces cost with the muffler. > > If a straight pipe isn't too expensive to try, I'll do it, otherwise > we'll see. > > I wish I had someone close by that could give me a hand. I think it > will take two people to accomplish. > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson" > > > > > I'm sure he'll elaborate on his removal. It would be very > interesting if you > > put in a temporary straight piece of pipe to see what it would sound > like > > without a muffler. I hope you do as this could be a major cost and > possibly > > labour saving DIY > > > > On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 > > > > > > Thanks Rob. Frankly, I was thinking of the same thing, but my first > > > problem is getting the darn thing out of the hole. Randy has > > > responded and said that he and a friend pulled it out, but he hasn't > > > said how yet. > > > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > > > > --- In > WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > "Rob Robinson" > > > > > > > > > > > Ron the only guy that I know who has replaced this muffler is Randy. > > > If I > > > > have to do mine we're going to put in a straight pipe with no > muffler > > > > first to see how loud it is. With a turbo there is a chance that it > > > won't be > > > > too loud. I did this with a 94 Chev Turbo Diesel PU and it was > > > throaty but > > > > not obnoxious. We'll see I guess. > > > > > > > > On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 > > > > > > > > > > Hi all: > > > > > > > > > > Anyone done their own removal and reinstall of exhaust stack > in the > > > > > chase of a WB coach? I have a 92WB40. > > > > > > > > > > I have removed the top tip and the top bracket holding the top of > > > > > the muffler to the chase. There is another similar bracket at the > > > > > bottom of the muffler, which is about 16" up from the bottom > of the > > > > > chase. Anyone have any idea how to remove these bolts. Also, how > > > > > about loosening the clamp on the pipe. I could use a long > extension on > > > > > the bottom, but what happens when the top nuts start turning. > It is > > > > > at least 4 feet down from the top of the chase. > > > > > > > > > > All the elbows are rusted together where they join other pipes. > > > > > BB put the wrong kind of tip on top and the rain has gotten in and > > > > > rusted everything. The muffler itself looks pretty good. > > > > > > > > > > I'd love to have a conversation with the *#!*) that designed this > > > > > install. > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson > > > > 94 WLWB > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson > > 94 WLWB > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > Is the muffler rusted out? On my FC the outlet pipe makes about a 45 degree bend up and over time a nice rusted hole opened up at this location. To fix this problem I covered the rust out area with some sheet metal and some fire resistant gasket material and covered the rusted hole at that point. I used gasket material first and then made a sheet metal cover to surround the pipe and then I used stainless steel hose clamps to hold the patch in place. It really did the trick for getting rid of that hole after the muffler and has lasted so far two years. Oh yes I did clean up the area around the rustout and primed it with a rust stopping paint. Now I was wondering if your muffler could be repaired in this manner? They certainly have material that you can rap around your muffler and with a little bit of brain power you could put a sleeve around the whole muffler or whatever area that giving you the problem. Jon (Jipjob) Rebel Bird Wide body exhuast removal - Steve Pfiffner - 12-05-2007 14:36 Ron, I am in Dallas and would be happy to help for a tour of your coach Steve Pfiffner '61 Avion Tourist '89 Airstream Excella BB Wannabee ----Original Message---- From: remarabito@... Date: 12/05/2007 20:13 To: Subj: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Wide body exhuast removal I just finished a conversation with Ralph Fullenwider. He did one on Jack & Liz's coach. Needless to say, it was awful and it took both to do it. They went back with a 5" muffler because the cost of the 6" muffler was more alone than what all the 5" pieces cost with the muffler. If a straight pipe isn't too expensive to try, I'll do it, otherwise we'll see. I wish I had someone close by that could give me a hand. I think it will take two people to accomplish. R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 Wide body exhuast removal - ronmarabito2002 - 12-05-2007 17:29 Thanks Scott. R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@...> wrote: > > I know we are talking about different coaches, but my 86 PT with 8v92 > is currently running with no muffler, and I will be adding one. It > is loud enough to be a nuisance. > > Scott Forman > 86 PT38 that my neighbors hate listening to > Memphis > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson" > > > > > I'm sure he'll elaborate on his removal. It would be very > interesting if you > > put in a temporary straight piece of pipe to see what it would > sound like > > without a muffler. I hope you do as this could be a major cost and > possibly > > labour saving DIY > > > > On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 > > > > > > Thanks Rob. Frankly, I was thinking of the same thing, but my > first > > > problem is getting the darn thing out of the hole. Randy has > > > responded and said that he and a friend pulled it out, but he > hasn't > > > said how yet. > > > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > "Rob Robinson" > > > > > > > > > > > Ron the only guy that I know who has replaced this muffler is > Randy. > > > If I > > > > have to do mine we're going to put in a straight pipe with no > muffler > > > > first to see how loud it is. With a turbo there is a chance > that it > > > won't be > > > > too loud. I did this with a 94 Chev Turbo Diesel PU and it was > > > throaty but > > > > not obnoxious. We'll see I guess. > > > > > > > > On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 > > > > > > > > > > Hi all: > > > > > > > > > > Anyone done their own removal and reinstall of exhaust stack > in the > > > > > chase of a WB coach? I have a 92WB40. > > > > > > > > > > I have removed the top tip and the top bracket holding the > top of > > > > > the muffler to the chase. There is another similar bracket at > the > > > > > bottom of the muffler, which is about 16" up from the bottom > of the > > > > > chase. Anyone have any idea how to remove these bolts. Also, > how > > > > > about loosening the clamp on the pipe. I could use a long > extension on > > > > > the bottom, but what happens when the top nuts start turning. > It is > > > > > at least 4 feet down from the top of the chase. > > > > > > > > > > All the elbows are rusted together where they join other > pipes. > > > > > BB put the wrong kind of tip on top and the rain has gotten > in and > > > > > rusted everything. The muffler itself looks pretty good. > > > > > > > > > > I'd love to have a conversation with the *#!*) that designed > this > > > > > install. > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson > > > > 94 WLWB > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson > > 94 WLWB > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > |