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tires - Pete Masterson - 07-06-2009 06:54

It's kind of like the forethought of turning into a skid -- a very non-intuitive reaction.
Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
"aeonix1@mac.com"
On Jul 6, 2009, at 11:51 AM, bubblerboy64 wrote:

And how a fellow would have the fore thought to step on the "gas" and not the brake is a little beyond me.


tires - Henry Jay Hannigan - 07-06-2009 08:17

Ernie:
I bought new Bridgestones for my 90SP because the sidewalls are stronger...
Still remains a wonderful ride! 12R22.5's
Regards,
Hank Hannigan
90SP36..FOR SALE IN VEGAS...REDUCED TO $64,900.

THIS IS NO FIRE SALE.....JUST SOMEBODY GETTING A GREAT BUY ON THE BEST 90SP36
LEFT IN THE USA! Call for pictures, info etc. (808) 384-7742







--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ernie Ekberg wrote:
>
> Don't Bridgestones have a harder sidewall then the others?
> I had B's on my van and they were stiif. Put M's on and ride is better. Or is
is me?
>
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Wanderlodge
> Weatherford, Tx
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erniesremodelingandrepair
>
> --- On Sun, 7/5/09, tommy.rountree wrote:
>
>
> From: tommy.rountree
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 5:33 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> O.K, everyone.... .
>
> I'm now throughly confused. I have Michelins all the way around on my 94 WB.
Steer tires 4 years old. Drive tires 5 years old, Tag tires 6 years old. No
cracks, good tread. I was wanting to replace my steers and had figured on two
Goodyears for thew steers and moving the michelins to the Drive and the best of
the drives to the Tag.
>
> My tire man here at home (does tires for a couple of churches one has a
Prevost Tour Bus and the other has a BB) recommends Goodyears, Firestones and
Bridgestones in that order. Does not recommend Michelins. Prices:
>
> Goodyears $508.00 each including new ss valve stems and mounting.
> Firestones $465.00 each, include ss valve stems and mounting.
> Bridgestones $561.00 each, includes new ss valve stems and mounting.
>
> The tire debate goes no, but I not choosy - just want the best tire for the
money.
>
> Help!
>
> Tommy Rountree
>

tires - Henry Jay Hannigan - 07-06-2009 08:24

Ernie:
not sure bottom of my post got posted.....REDUCED MY LIKE NEW 90SP36 TO $64,900.
THIS IS NOT A FIRE SALE. JUST SOMEBODY GETTING A GREAT DEAL ON THE BEST 90SP36
LEFT IN THE USA....42,000 MILES, EXCELLENT CONDITION WITH THE WORKS. FOR
PICTURES CALL ME @ (808)384-7742.
Regards,
Hank Hannigan
90SP36..for sale in Vegas






--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Henry Jay Hannigan"
wrote:
>
> Ernie:
> I bought new Bridgestones for my 90SP because the sidewalls are stronger...
Still remains a wonderful ride! 12R22.5's
> Regards,
> Hank Hannigan
> 90SP36..FOR SALE IN VEGAS...REDUCED TO $64,900.
>
> THIS IS NO FIRE SALE.....JUST SOMEBODY GETTING A GREAT BUY ON THE BEST 90SP36
LEFT IN THE USA! Call for pictures, info etc. (808) 384-7742
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ernie Ekberg wrote:
> >
> > Don't Bridgestones have a harder sidewall then the others?
> > I had B's on my van and they were stiif. Put M's on and ride is better. Or
is is me?
> >
> >
> > Ernie Ekberg
> > 83PT40
> > Wanderlodge
> > Weatherford, Tx
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erniesremodelingandrepair
> >
> > --- On Sun, 7/5/09, tommy.rountree wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: tommy.rountree
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 5:33 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > O.K, everyone.... .
> >
> > I'm now throughly confused. I have Michelins all the way around on my 94 WB.
Steer tires 4 years old. Drive tires 5 years old, Tag tires 6 years old. No
cracks, good tread. I was wanting to replace my steers and had figured on two
Goodyears for thew steers and moving the michelins to the Drive and the best of
the drives to the Tag.
> >
> > My tire man here at home (does tires for a couple of churches one has a
Prevost Tour Bus and the other has a BB) recommends Goodyears, Firestones and
Bridgestones in that order. Does not recommend Michelins. Prices:
> >
> > Goodyears $508.00 each including new ss valve stems and mounting.
> > Firestones $465.00 each, include ss valve stems and mounting.
> > Bridgestones $561.00 each, includes new ss valve stems and mounting.
> >
> > The tire debate goes no, but I not choosy - just want the best tire for the
money.
> >
> > Help!
> >
> > Tommy Rountree
> >
>

tires - Ernie Ekberg - 07-06-2009 09:41

So if you are on a fixed- like not much income, can you replace the inner drive with the same kind and brand of tire?


Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Wanderlodge
Weatherford, Tx

--- On Mon, 7/6/09, Pete Masterson wrote:

From: Pete Masterson
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 11:28 AM


There should be no problem mixing metric (315/80) with 12R tires, if each axle carries the same size/type tire. i.e. replacing tires as you suggest should be no problem.
The only concern is that the 315s, which are about .4 inches wider than the 12R may not have sufficient clearance on the duals ... but that's something to discuss with the tire installer -- I note that several 'bird owners have moved to the metric size tires without problems.
Note that we're referring to all tires as having the radial design. Mixing bias ply tires and radials on the same vehicle can result in some poor handling characteristics.


Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA



On Jul 6, 2009, at 4:32 AM, bubblerboy64 wrote:


Hi Guys, Ya have me concerned. I have the GY 159 12R22.5 on my coach. About three years old, maybe less then 10k miles. I want to replace them for peace of mind if for no other reason. My plan is to do the steer tires now and then next year the drives and the following the tag. I just can't swing the entire set of 8 at one shot. My question is one of the fellow replaced his 12R with 315/80/R 22.5 and feels the larger tires a significant benefit. Sounds reasonable. Since I am not doing all 8 at one time do you see a problem mixing the different size tires as I proceed with my plan? Obviously when I do the drive axle I would not mix sizes there. Anyone see a problem with either the larger size or the mixing as I go. Thanks I intend to buy Michelin ZXA2 tires.

John Heckman
Shippensburg Pa
1987 PT
36








It just you Ernie. LOL
Your right MICHELIN is better.
The last time the subject about tires on the forum was discussed it got personal.
Some folks have a problem with Michelin being French Company; some folks have problems with Mexican painters. Etc.
I have a problem with getting the most bang for my buck.
I don't much care were it's made or who made it, as long as it's the best I can get for my $$$$$$"SSSSSSS
Bridgstone is owned by Michelin, so for a few more bucks I'd go Michelin.
Goodyear is only used by necessity not by choice.
Michelin is standard equipment on Prevost
Firestone makes a tire for Greyhound that has an extra strong sidewall, due to the fact that the Dogs pull up to the curb several times a day and scuffing is a problem.
Your rotation schedule sounds good. I've been doing that every year since I've owned my coach. Two new steers yearly, In another year I'll have nothing older that 4 years on the bird. With good trade in value to boot.
If you go back and check some of the older threads on this forum you'll see lots of ideas, see if your tire guy will not take the old tires that have good tread and not too old in on trade, don't just give them up they are worth something,
Local truckers and farmers would probably give $100 bucks or more for a tire with good tread that are only three or four years old.
There are other choices as well, Kumho & Toyo are as good as the other brands.
Kurt Horvath
95 PT 42
10AC
--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Ernie Ekberg wrote:
Don't Bridgestones have a harder sidewall then the others?
I had B's on my van and they were stiif. Put M's on and ride is better. Or is is me?
Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Wanderlodge
Weatherford, Tx
http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair
--- On Sun, 7/5/09, tommy.rountree wrote:
From: tommy.rountree
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires
To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 5:33 PM
O.K, everyone.... .
I'm now throughly confused. I have Michelins all the way around on my 94 WB. Steer tires 4 years old. Drive tires 5 years old, Tag tires 6 years old. No cracks, good tread. I was wanting to replace my steers and had figured on two Goodyears for thew steers and moving the michelins to the Drive and the best of the drives to the Tag.
My tire man here at home (does tires for a couple of churches one has a Prevost Tour Bus and the other has a BB) recommends Goodyears, Firestones and Bridgestones in that order. Does not recommend Michelins. Prices:
Goodyears $508.00 each including new ss valve stems and mounting.
Firestones $465.00 each, include ss valve stems and mounting.
Bridgestones $561.00 each, includes new ss valve stems and mounting.
The tire debate goes no, but I not choosy - just want the best tire for the money.
Help!
Tommy Rountree



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tires - Gregory OConnor - 07-06-2009 10:24

when you rotate tires off the front to the drive duels, it is best to keep both
front tires together as a set. the height of a set should be close. the hight
across an axle does not matter much as the differential in the axle allows one
side to spinn independent of the other. The problem is when you run one of the
front tires low or toe'ed they wear to different heights. On road trucks and
commercial buses don't rotate tires to the back, they send them out for recap to
use on the back.

as far as differential wear and tear the worst thing you can do to the diff and
rear is spinn the tires then catch traction. the axle goes from 40 mph to 1mph
in a split second. it usuly kills the ring gear. when driving a dumptruck up a
hill in sand I am carefull to get off the fuel and on the brake when the
pavement turns tractionable. I fear spinning tires in the bus and keep an eye
on the speedo relitive to the tac when on grass and sand.
Greg of Tim&Greg
94ptca






--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ernie Ekberg wrote:
>
> So if you are on a fixed- like not much income, can you replace the inner
drive with the same kind and brand of tire?
>
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Wanderlodge
> Weatherford, Tx
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erniesremodelingandrepair
>
> --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Pete Masterson wrote:
>
>
> From: Pete Masterson
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 11:28 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> There should be no problem mixing metric (315/80) with 12R tires, if each axle
carries the same size/type tire. i.e. replacing tires as you suggest should be
no problem.
>
>
> The only concern is that the 315s, which are about .4 inches wider than the
12R may not have sufficient clearance on the duals ... but that's something to
discuss with the tire installer -- I note that several 'bird owners have moved
to the metric size tires without problems.
>
>
> Note that we're referring to all tires as having the radial design. Mixing
bias ply tires and radials on the same vehicle can result in some poor handling
characteristics.
>
>
>
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> El Sobrante CA
> aeonix1@mac. com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 6, 2009, at 4:32 AM, bubblerboy64 wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Guys, Ya have me concerned. I have the GY 159 12R22.5 on my coach.
About three years old, maybe less then 10k miles. I want to replace them for
peace of mind if for no other reason. My plan is to do the steer tires now and
then next year the drives and the following the tag. I just can't swing the
entire set of 8 at one shot.   My question is one of the fellow replaced his 12R
with 315/80/R 22.5 and feels the larger tires a significant benefit. Sounds
reasonable.   Since I am not doing all 8 at one time do you see a problem mixing
the different size tires as I proceed with my plan? Obviously when I do the
drive axle I would not mix sizes there. Anyone see a problem with either the
larger size or the mixing as I go. Thanks   I intend to buy Michelin ZXA2
tires.
>
> John Heckman
> Shippensburg Pa
> 1987 PT 36
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It just you Ernie. LOL
>
>
>
> Your right MICHELIN is better.
>
>
>
> The last time the subject about tires on the forum was discussed it got
personal.
>
>
>
> Some folks have a problem with Michelin being French Company; some folks have
problems with Mexican painters. Etc.
>
>
>
> I have a problem with getting the most bang for my buck.
>
>
>
> I don't much care were it's made or who made it, as long as it's the best I
can get for my $$$$$$"SSSSSSS
>
>
>
> Bridgstone is owned by Michelin, so for a few more bucks I'd go Michelin.
>
>
>
> Goodyear is only used by necessity not by choice.
>
>
>
> Michelin is standard equipment on Prevost
>
>
>
> Firestone makes a tire for Greyhound that has an extra strong sidewall, due to
the fact that the Dogs pull up to the curb several times a day and scuffing is a
problem.
>
>
>
> Your rotation schedule sounds good. I've been doing that every year since I've
owned my coach. Two new steers yearly, In another year I'll have nothing older
that 4 years on the bird. With good trade in value to boot.
>
>
>
> If you go back and check some of the older threads on this forum you'll see
lots of ideas, see if your tire guy will not take the old tires that have good
tread and not too old in on trade, don't just give them up they are worth
something,
>
>
>
> Local truckers and farmers would probably give $100 bucks or more for a tire
with good tread that are only three or four years old.
>
>
>
> There are other choices as well, Kumho & Toyo are as good as the other brands.
>
>
>
> Kurt Horvath
>
> 95 PT 42
>
> 10AC
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Ernie Ekberg wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Don't Bridgestones have a harder sidewall then the others?
>
>
> I had B's on my van and they were stiif. Put M's on and ride is better. Or is
is me?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ernie Ekberg
>
>
> 83PT40
>
>
> Wanderlodge
>
>
> Weatherford, Tx
>
>
> http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 7/5/09, tommy.rountree wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: tommy.rountree
>
>
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires
>
>
> To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
>
>
> Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 5:33 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> O.K, everyone.... .
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm now throughly confused. I have Michelins all the way around on my 94 WB.
Steer tires 4 years old. Drive tires 5 years old, Tag tires 6 years old. No
cracks, good tread. I was wanting to replace my steers and had figured on two
Goodyears for thew steers and moving the michelins to the Drive and the best of
the drives to the Tag.
>
>
>
>
>
> My tire man here at home (does tires for a couple of churches one has a
Prevost Tour Bus and the other has a BB) recommends Goodyears, Firestones and
Bridgestones in that order. Does not recommend Michelins. Prices:
>
>
>
>
>
> Goodyears $508.00 each including new ss valve stems and mounting.
>
>
> Firestones $465.00 each, include ss valve stems and mounting.
>
>
> Bridgestones $561.00 each, includes new ss valve stems and mounting.
>
>
>
>
>
> The tire debate goes no, but I not choosy - just want the best tire for the
money.
>
>
>
>
>
> Help!
>
>
>
>
>
> Tommy Rountree
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>

tires - Don Bradner - 07-06-2009 10:45

Pete, you may want to revisit the literature. The 315 is 1.1 inches wider than a
12R.

With 9-inch rims they are fine on duals. With the 8.25-inch standard on older
birds they are only OK if you are willing to run them overinflated, which is
what Shane does.

On 7/6/2009 at 9:28 AM Pete Masterson wrote:

>The only concern is that the 315s, which are about .4 inches wider
>than the 12R may not have sufficient clearance on the duals

tires - Henry Jay Hannigan - 07-06-2009 11:32

Recommend "CROSSFIRES" for your duals to keep air pressure the same on each
dual...........I've had them for a few years with no problems.
Regards,
Hank Hannigan
90SP36..for sale in Vegas...$64,900...42,000 miles



R--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor" wrote:
>
> when you rotate tires off the front to the drive duels, it is best to keep
both front tires together as a set. the height of a set should be close. the
hight across an axle does not matter much as the differential in the axle allows
one side to spinn independent of the other. The problem is when you run one of
the front tires low or toe'ed they wear to different heights. On road trucks
and commercial buses don't rotate tires to the back, they send them out for
recap to use on the back.
>
> as far as differential wear and tear the worst thing you can do to the diff
and rear is spinn the tires then catch traction. the axle goes from 40 mph to
1mph in a split second. it usuly kills the ring gear. when driving a dumptruck
up a hill in sand I am carefull to get off the fuel and on the brake when the
pavement turns tractionable. I fear spinning tires in the bus and keep an eye
on the speedo relitive to the tac when on grass and sand.
> Greg of Tim&Greg
> 94ptca
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ernie Ekberg wrote:
> >
> > So if you are on a fixed- like not much income, can you replace the inner
drive with the same kind and brand of tire?
> >
> >
> > Ernie Ekberg
> > 83PT40
> > Wanderlodge
> > Weatherford, Tx
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erniesremodelingandrepair
> >
> > --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Pete Masterson wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Pete Masterson
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 11:28 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > There should be no problem mixing metric (315/80) with 12R tires, if each
axle carries the same size/type tire. i.e. replacing tires as you suggest should
be no problem.
> >
> >
> > The only concern is that the 315s, which are about .4 inches wider than the
12R may not have sufficient clearance on the duals ... but that's something to
discuss with the tire installer -- I note that several 'bird owners have moved
to the metric size tires without problems.
> >
> >
> > Note that we're referring to all tires as having the radial design. Mixing
bias ply tires and radials on the same vehicle can result in some poor handling
characteristics.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Pete Masterson
> > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > El Sobrante CA
> > aeonix1@mac. com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jul 6, 2009, at 4:32 AM, bubblerboy64 wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Guys, Ya have me concerned. I have the GY 159 12R22.5 on my coach.
About three years old, maybe less then 10k miles. I want to replace them for
peace of mind if for no other reason. My plan is to do the steer tires now and
then next year the drives and the following the tag. I just can't swing the
entire set of 8 at one shot.   My question is one of the fellow replaced his 12R
with 315/80/R 22.5 and feels the larger tires a significant benefit. Sounds
reasonable.   Since I am not doing all 8 at one time do you see a problem mixing
the different size tires as I proceed with my plan? Obviously when I do the
drive axle I would not mix sizes there. Anyone see a problem with either the
larger size or the mixing as I go. Thanks   I intend to buy Michelin ZXA2
tires.
> >
> > John Heckman
> > Shippensburg Pa
> > 1987 PT 36
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It just you Ernie. LOL
> >
> >
> >
> > Your right MICHELIN is better.
> >
> >
> >
> > The last time the subject about tires on the forum was discussed it got
personal.
> >
> >
> >
> > Some folks have a problem with Michelin being French Company; some folks
have problems with Mexican painters. Etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a problem with getting the most bang for my buck.
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't much care were it's made or who made it, as long as it's the best I
can get for my $$$$$$"SSSSSSS
> >
> >
> >
> > Bridgstone is owned by Michelin, so for a few more bucks I'd go Michelin.
> >
> >
> >
> > Goodyear is only used by necessity not by choice.
> >
> >
> >
> > Michelin is standard equipment on Prevost
> >
> >
> >
> > Firestone makes a tire for Greyhound that has an extra strong sidewall, due
to the fact that the Dogs pull up to the curb several times a day and scuffing
is a problem.
> >
> >
> >
> > Your rotation schedule sounds good. I've been doing that every year since
I've owned my coach. Two new steers yearly, In another year I'll have nothing
older that 4 years on the bird. With good trade in value to boot.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you go back and check some of the older threads on this forum you'll see
lots of ideas, see if your tire guy will not take the old tires that have good
tread and not too old in on trade, don't just give them up they are worth
something,
> >
> >
> >
> > Local truckers and farmers would probably give $100 bucks or more for a tire
with good tread that are only three or four years old.
> >
> >
> >
> > There are other choices as well, Kumho & Toyo are as good as the other
brands.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> >
> > 95 PT 42
> >
> > 10AC
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Ernie Ekberg wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Don't Bridgestones have a harder sidewall then the others?
> >
> >
> > I had B's on my van and they were stiif. Put M's on and ride is better. Or
is is me?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ernie Ekberg
> >
> >
> > 83PT40
> >
> >
> > Wanderlodge
> >
> >
> > Weatherford, Tx
> >
> >
> > http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Sun, 7/5/09, tommy.rountree wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> > I'm now throughly confused. I have Michelins all the way around on my 94 WB.
Steer tires 4 years old. Drive tires 5 years old, Tag tires 6 years old. No
cracks, good tread. I was wanting to replace my steers and had figured on two
Goodyears for thew steers and moving the michelins to the Drive and the best of
the drives to the Tag.
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tires - Jim Riordan - 07-06-2009 15:46

kurt

Bridgestone and firestone are the same company.

jim riordan

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt Horvath" wrote:
>
>
>
> It just you Ernie. LOL
>
> Your right MICHELIN is better.
>
> The last time the subject about tires on the forum was discussed it got
personal.
>
> Some folks have a problem with Michelin being French Company; some folks have
problems with Mexican painters. Etc.
>
> I have a problem with getting the most bang for my buck.
>
> I don't much care were it's made or who made it, as long as it's the best I
can get for my $$$$$$"SSSSSSS
>
> Bridgstone is owned by Michelin, so for a few more bucks I'd go Michelin.
>
> Goodyear is only used by necessity not by choice.
>
> Michelin is standard equipment on Prevost
>
> Firestone makes a tire for Greyhound that has an extra strong sidewall, due to
the fact that the Dogs pull up to the curb several times a day and scuffing is a
problem.
>
> Your rotation schedule sounds good. I've been doing that every year since I've
owned my coach. Two new steers yearly, In another year I'll have nothing older
that 4 years on the bird. With good trade in value to boot.
>
> If you go back and check some of the older threads on this forum you'll see
lots of ideas, see if your tire guy will not take the old tires that have good
tread and not too old in on trade, don't just give them up they are worth
something,
>
> Local truckers and farmers would probably give $100 bucks or more for a tire
with good tread that are only three or four years old.
>
> There are other choices as well, Kumho & Toyo are as good as the other brands.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT 42
> 10AC
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ernie Ekberg wrote:
> >
> > Don't Bridgestones have a harder sidewall then the others?
> > I had B's on my van and they were stiif. Put M's on and ride is better. Or
is is me?
> >
> >
> > Ernie Ekberg
> > 83PT40
> > Wanderlodge
> > Weatherford, Tx
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erniesremodelingandrepair
> >
> > --- On Sun, 7/5/09, tommy.rountree wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: tommy.rountree
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 5:33 PM
> >
> >
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> >
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> > O.K, everyone.... .
> >
> > I'm now throughly confused. I have Michelins all the way around on my 94 WB.
Steer tires 4 years old. Drive tires 5 years old, Tag tires 6 years old. No
cracks, good tread. I was wanting to replace my steers and had figured on two
Goodyears for thew steers and moving the michelins to the Drive and the best of
the drives to the Tag.
> >
> > My tire man here at home (does tires for a couple of churches one has a
Prevost Tour Bus and the other has a BB) recommends Goodyears, Firestones and
Bridgestones in that order. Does not recommend Michelins. Prices:
> >
> > Goodyears $508.00 each including new ss valve stems and mounting.
> > Firestones $465.00 each, include ss valve stems and mounting.
> > Bridgestones $561.00 each, includes new ss valve stems and mounting.
> >
> > The tire debate goes no, but I not choosy - just want the best tire for the
money.
> >
> > Help!
> >
> > Tommy Rountree
> >
>

tires - Brian Johnson - 07-07-2009 01:58

Roger:
This was the report that I too came across after my G159 blowout on the front driver's side. As I mentioned in a previous post and prior to becoming aware of this report, I was told by the installer that the replacement tire was the G149 and, as I was travelling and could not get anything else, I had the G149 put on the coach. This installation resulted in my having the G149 on the driver's side and the other G159 (with very low mileage) on the passenger side. Shortly after returning home I became aware of this report and it wasn't too long before I went to my tire installer andI replaced both tires with new Michelins. My tire installer gave me a reasonable deal which included his purchase of the Goodyears.
Brian Johnson
Bailieboro, Ontario
1982FC35RB
--- On Mon, 7/6/09, rogerwwebb@... wrote:
From: rogerwwebb@...
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Received: Monday, July 6, 2009, 3:09 PM



As I was looking for links tohelp answer another question on this forum, I ran into one I had booked marked about 'Dangerous' Goodyear G159 tires -- it is a bit dated (2006). I hadkept this article as part of my research when wrestling with Goodyear about my G149 issues detailed in earlier posts.
Roger Webb
91WL
Cedar Rapids, IA
In a message dated 7/6/2009 6:33:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jehdds@hotmail. com writes:



Hi Guys, Ya have me concerned. I have the GY 159 12R22.5 on my coach. About three years old, maybe less then 10k miles. I want to replace them for peace of mind if for no other reason. My plan is to do the steer tires now and then next year the drives and the following the tag. I just can't swing the entire set of 8 at one shot. My question is one of the fellow replaced his 12R with 315/80/R 22.5 and feels the larger tires a significant benefit. Sounds reasonable. Since I am not doing all 8 at one time do you see a problem mixing the different size tires as I proceed with my plan? Obviously when I do the drive axle I would not mix sizes there. Anyone see a problem with either the larger size or the mixing as I go. Thanks I intend to buy Michelin ZXA2 tires.

John Heckman
Shippensburg Pa
1987 PT 36

>
>
>
> It just you Ernie. LOL
>
> Your right MICHELIN is better.
>
> The last
time the subject about tires on the forum was discussed it got personal.
>
> Some folks have a problem with Michelin being French Company; some folks have problems with Mexican painters. Etc.
>
> I have a problem with getting the most bang for my buck.
>
> I don't much care were it's made or who made it, as long as it's the best I can get for my $$$$$$"SSSSSSS
>
> Bridgstone is owned by Michelin, so for a few more bucks I'd go Michelin.
>
> Goodyear is only used by necessity not by choice.
>
> Michelin is standard equipment on Prevost
>
> Firestone makes a tire for Greyhound that has an extra strong sidewall, due to the fact that the Dogs pull up to the curb several times a day and scuffing is a problem.
>
> Your rotation schedule sounds good. I've been doing that every year since I've owned my coach. Two new steers yearly, In another year I'll have
nothing older that 4 years on the bird. With good trade in value to boot.
>
> If you go back and check some of the older threads on this forum you'll see lots of ideas, see if your tire guy will not take the old tires that have good tread and not too old in on trade, don't just give them up they are worth something,
>
> Local truckers and farmers would probably give $100 bucks or more for a tire with good tread that are only three or four years old.
>
> There are other choices as well, Kumho & Toyo are as good as the other brands.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT 42
> 10AC
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Ernie Ekberg wrote:
>
>
> > Don't Bridgestones have a harder sidewall then the others?
> > I had B's on my van and they were stiif. Put M's on and ride is better. Or is is me?
> >
> >
> > Ernie Ekberg
> > 83PT40
> > Wanderlodge
> > Weatherford, Tx
> > http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair
> >
> > --- On Sun, 7/5/09, tommy.rountree wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: tommy.rountree
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 5:33 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > O.K, everyone.... .
> >
> > I'm now throughly confused. I have Michelins all the way around on my 94 WB. Steer tires 4 years old. Drive tires 5 years old, Tag tires 6 years old. No cracks, good tread. I was wanting to replace my steers and had figured on two Goodyears for thew steers and moving the michelins to the Drive and the best of the drives to the Tag.
> >
> > My tire man here at home (does tires for a couple of churches one has a Prevost Tour Bus and the other has a BB) recommends Goodyears, Firestones and Bridgestones in that order. Does not recommend Michelins. Prices:
> >
> > Goodyears $508.00 each including new
ss valve stems and mounting.
> > Firestones $465.00 each, include ss valve stems and mounting.
> > Bridgestones $561.00 each, includes new ss valve stems and mounting.
> >
> > The tire debate goes no, but I not choosy - just want the best tire for the money.
> >
> > Help!
> >
> > Tommy Rountree
> >
>



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tires - patticake592000 - 07-07-2009 07:45

Since we are talking about a very controversial subject, I
would like to get thoughts about mounting trailer tires on the
tags. On a conversation with my tire guy, he mentioned that since
we literally drag the tag on a turn, why not mount trailer tires
in that position. Now, they don't make 12R,(in a trailer tire) so
maybe mount an 11R there. The drives are supporting the majority
of the weight anyway.
Thoughts and opinions!!!!

Steve Gureasko
90WBWL401/2 Jus Chillin
Ponchatoula, La.