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1997 Bluebird 43' - Pete Masterson - 07-22-2006 11:27
Yes, there was a backing turn to a loading dock as well.
I'm going to re-license myself in Nevada next year, so I've been
reading their manual. The backing/turn isn't such a big deal. I live
on a dead-end street and must use a cross street (that also dead
ends) to turn around. It's the same maneuver as the loading dock
thing. But parallel parking? Gimme a break...
Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 4203
El Sobrante, CA
On Jul 22, 2006, at 3:32 PM, Tom McCarthy wrote:
> Pete,
>
> Didn't your test involve backing up off a street turning to a loading
> dock? Mine did. I asked the examiner why and he said it was part of
> the commercial test so I had to do it.
>
> Tommy 'Two Shoes' McCarthy
> '95 PT42 WBSA
> Poway, CA (first housecar 40'+ test for commercial class B in
> Econdido DMV)
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
> wrote:
>>
>> Jay,
>>
>> When I was searching for my purchase, I was looking at '97 and '98
>> units at the top end of those that I was considering. Ultimately,
>> George's coach became available through eBay (from Mr. Oliver's) at
> a
>> very good price. While there are some interior appearance issues,
> the
>> coach had many advantages -- so I made my purchase. Here's some of
>> the thoughts I had about the newer units -
>>
>> Pro -
>> Newer, potentially less wear and tear.
>> More modern systems, such as DD Series 60 engine instead of the 8v92
>> possibly only had one owner (a con, if the owner didn't take good
>> care of it).
>> Parts are probably less difficult to find.
>> Interior more likely to be in good condition.
>> Uses standard home-style plastic plumbing. (While this might be
>> considered a con, I understand that the previous copper plumbing
> was
>> a non-standard size that was difficult to get parts for.)
>>
>> Con -
>> '97s are generally priced at around $200K -- there's quite a bit
> of
>> depreciation yet to come out. For example, my '95 was more than
> $70K
>> less than the asking price of most '97s and is essentially the same.
>> Might just be at the age where stuff (that has an age-related wear
>> pattern) is likely to fail.
>> Over 40' in most states requires getting a non commercial class B
>> driver's license. (Incredibly, they want you to demonstrate
> parallel
>> parking the beast for the license.)
>>
>>
>> Pete Masterson
>> aeonix1@...
>> '95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 4203
>> El Sobrante, CA
>>
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>> On Jul 22, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Jay Darst wrote:
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>>> Any pro's or con's to the 1997 43' Wanderlodge?
>>>
>>> What have these been selling for $$$ ?
>>>
>>> Have researched asking prices on several www sites...
>>>
>>> Appreciate all information...
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Jay Darst
>>> 85PT40
>>> Springfield, IL
>>>
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1997 Bluebird 43' - Tom Warner - 07-22-2006 11:49
In New York any coach over 40 feet and/or over 26000# the driver must
take and pass a road test to get a special endorsement which includes
parallel parking. I took it in May 2006.
tom warner
vernon center,Ny
1985 PT 40
At 07:27 PM 7/22/2006, you wrote:
>Yes, there was a backing turn to a loading dock as well.
>
>I'm going to re-license myself in Nevada next year, so I've been
>reading their manual. The backing/turn isn't such a big deal. I live
>on a dead-end street and must use a cross street (that also dead
>ends) to turn around. It's the same maneuver as the loading dock
>thing. But parallel parking? Gimme a break...
>
>Pete Masterson
>
>'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 4203
>El Sobrante, CA
>
>On Jul 22, 2006, at 3:32 PM, Tom McCarthy wrote:
>
> > Pete,
> >
> > Didn't your test involve backing up off a street turning to a loading
> > dock? Mine did. I asked the examiner why and he said it was part of
> > the commercial test so I had to do it.
> >
> > Tommy 'Two Shoes' McCarthy
> > '95 PT42 WBSA
> > Poway, CA (first housecar 40'+ test for commercial class B in
> > Econdido DMV)
> >
> >
> > --- In
>
> Pete Masterson
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Jay,
> >>
> >> When I was searching for my purchase, I was looking at '97 and '98
> >> units at the top end of those that I was considering. Ultimately,
> >> George's coach became available through eBay (from Mr. Oliver's) at
> > a
> >> very good price. While there are some interior appearance issues,
> > the
> >> coach had many advantages -- so I made my purchase. Here's some of
> >> the thoughts I had about the newer units -
> >>
> >> Pro -
> >> Newer, potentially less wear and tear.
> >> More modern systems, such as DD Series 60 engine instead of the 8v92
> >> possibly only had one owner (a con, if the owner didn't take good
> >> care of it).
> >> Parts are probably less difficult to find.
> >> Interior more likely to be in good condition.
> >> Uses standard home-style plastic plumbing. (While this might be
> >> considered a con, I understand that the previous copper plumbing
> > was
> >> a non-standard size that was difficult to get parts for.)
> >>
> >> Con -
> >> '97s are generally priced at around $200K -- there's quite a bit
> > of
> >> depreciation yet to come out. For example, my '95 was more than
> > $70K
> >> less than the asking price of most '97s and is essentially the same.
> >> Might just be at the age where stuff (that has an age-related wear
> >> pattern) is likely to fail.
> >> Over 40' in most states requires getting a non commercial class B
> >> driver's license. (Incredibly, they want you to demonstrate
> > parallel
> >> parking the beast for the license.)
> >>
> >>
> >> Pete Masterson
> >> aeonix1@...
> >> '95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 4203
> >> El Sobrante, CA
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> >> On Jul 22, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Jay Darst wrote:
> >>
> >>> Any pro's or con's to the 1997 43' Wanderlodge?
> >>>
> >>> What have these been selling for $$$ ?
> >>>
> >>> Have researched asking prices on several www sites...
> >>>
> >>> Appreciate all information...
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Jay Darst
> >>> 85PT40
> >>> Springfield, IL
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1997 Bluebird 43' - p_a_lazar - 07-22-2006 12:23
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
> thing. But parallel parking? Gimme a break...
>
I happen to live "in the city", just 1 mile from Washington, DC and I
have to park (parallel) on city streets in front of my house. The
street is to narrow to turn sufficiently and allow me to back into my
driveway. I have been parallel parking rigs there for the past 12 years.
Besides it's a hoot when I am in a tight situation and I raise my tag
axle and parallel park in a spot between two rigs.
I treat my bird like it is a big car and go anyplace I can fit.
Paul
97wb43
BTW, for Jay, I just remebered another reason for the 97....Liftable
tag axle (first year for that as well).
1997 Bluebird 43' - Jay Darst - 07-22-2006 18:24
I have an opportunity to purchase the 1997 for $140k, sounded like a
hell of a deal...
Thanks everyone, appreciate all the info.
Jay Darst
85PT40
Springfield, IL where I absolutely love this forum! wow!
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Darst"
>
> Any pro's or con's to the 1997 43' Wanderlodge?
>
> What have these been selling for $$$ ?
>
> Have researched asking prices on several www sites...
>
> Appreciate all information...
>
> Thanks
> Jay Darst
> 85PT40
> Springfield, IL
>
1997 Bluebird 43' - Tom McCarthy - 07-22-2006 18:29
Greg,
You can pull a trailer or toad as long as it does not exceed the CA
length limit of 65 feet. I do not know about double points.
Tommy the Irish McC
Poway, CA
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
>
> Tom, Does California Non commercial B limit you from pulling a
> trailer? Commercial class A is a upgrade to pulling a trailer From
a
> Commercial B. DO you get double the infraction points on a ticket?
> Dmv holds Commercial drivers to a higher standard and gives us
double
> points towards loss of license.
>
> Gregory O'Connor
> Class A , class A driver too
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Tom McCarthy"
>
> >
> > Pete,
> >
> > Didn't your test involve backing up off a street turning to a
> loading
> > dock? Mine did. I asked the examiner why and he said it was
part
> of
> > the commercial test so I had to do it.
> >
> > Tommy 'Two Shoes' McCarthy
> > '95 PT42 WBSA
> > Poway, CA (first housecar 40'+ test for commercial class B in
> > Econdido DMV)
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Jay,
> > >
> > > When I was searching for my purchase, I was looking at '97
> and '98
> > > units at the top end of those that I was considering.
> Ultimately,
> > > George's coach became available through eBay (from Mr.
Oliver's)
> at
> > a
> > > very good price. While there are some interior appearance
issues,
> > the
> > > coach had many advantages -- so I made my purchase. Here's some
> of
> > > the thoughts I had about the newer units -
> > >
> > > Pro -
> > > Newer, potentially less wear and tear.
> > > More modern systems, such as DD Series 60 engine instead of the
> 8v92
> > > possibly only had one owner (a con, if the owner didn't take
> good
> > > care of it).
> > > Parts are probably less difficult to find.
> > > Interior more likely to be in good condition.
> > > Uses standard home-style plastic plumbing. (While this might
be
> > > considered a con, I understand that the previous copper
plumbing
> > was
> > > a non-standard size that was difficult to get parts for.)
> > >
> > > Con -
> > > '97s are generally priced at around $200K -- there's quite a
bit
> > of
> > > depreciation yet to come out. For example, my '95 was more than
> > $70K
> > > less than the asking price of most '97s and is essentially the
> same.
> > > Might just be at the age where stuff (that has an age-related
> wear
> > > pattern) is likely to fail.
> > > Over 40' in most states requires getting a non commercial class
> B
> > > driver's license. (Incredibly, they want you to demonstrate
> > parallel
> > > parking the beast for the license.)
> > >
> > >
> > > Pete Masterson
> > > aeonix1@
> > > '95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 4203
> > > El Sobrante, CA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jul 22, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Jay Darst wrote:
> > >
> > > > Any pro's or con's to the 1997 43' Wanderlodge?
> > > >
> > > > What have these been selling for $$$ ?
> > > >
> > > > Have researched asking prices on several www sites...
> > > >
> > > > Appreciate all information...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Jay Darst
> > > > 85PT40
> > > > Springfield, IL
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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1997 Bluebird 43' - Tom McCarthy - 07-22-2006 18:31
The trailer has to be less than 10,000 pounds, if my memory serves me
well.
T2Shoes McCarthy
'95 PT42
Poway, CA
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
>
> Tom, Does California Non commercial B limit you from pulling a
> trailer? Commercial class A is a upgrade to pulling a trailer From
a
> Commercial B. DO you get double the infraction points on a ticket?
> Dmv holds Commercial drivers to a higher standard and gives us
double
> points towards loss of license.
>
> Gregory O'Connor
> Class A , class A driver too
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Tom McCarthy"
>
> >
> > Pete,
> >
> > Didn't your test involve backing up off a street turning to a
> loading
> > dock? Mine did. I asked the examiner why and he said it was
part
> of
> > the commercial test so I had to do it.
> >
> > Tommy 'Two Shoes' McCarthy
> > '95 PT42 WBSA
> > Poway, CA (first housecar 40'+ test for commercial class B in
> > Econdido DMV)
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Jay,
> > >
> > > When I was searching for my purchase, I was looking at '97
> and '98
> > > units at the top end of those that I was considering.
> Ultimately,
> > > George's coach became available through eBay (from Mr.
Oliver's)
> at
> > a
> > > very good price. While there are some interior appearance
issues,
> > the
> > > coach had many advantages -- so I made my purchase. Here's some
> of
> > > the thoughts I had about the newer units -
> > >
> > > Pro -
> > > Newer, potentially less wear and tear.
> > > More modern systems, such as DD Series 60 engine instead of the
> 8v92
> > > possibly only had one owner (a con, if the owner didn't take
> good
> > > care of it).
> > > Parts are probably less difficult to find.
> > > Interior more likely to be in good condition.
> > > Uses standard home-style plastic plumbing. (While this might
be
> > > considered a con, I understand that the previous copper
plumbing
> > was
> > > a non-standard size that was difficult to get parts for.)
> > >
> > > Con -
> > > '97s are generally priced at around $200K -- there's quite a
bit
> > of
> > > depreciation yet to come out. For example, my '95 was more than
> > $70K
> > > less than the asking price of most '97s and is essentially the
> same.
> > > Might just be at the age where stuff (that has an age-related
> wear
> > > pattern) is likely to fail.
> > > Over 40' in most states requires getting a non commercial class
> B
> > > driver's license. (Incredibly, they want you to demonstrate
> > parallel
> > > parking the beast for the license.)
> > >
> > >
> > > Pete Masterson
> > > aeonix1@
> > > '95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 4203
> > > El Sobrante, CA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jul 22, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Jay Darst wrote:
> > >
> > > > Any pro's or con's to the 1997 43' Wanderlodge?
> > > >
> > > > What have these been selling for $$$ ?
> > > >
> > > > Have researched asking prices on several www sites...
> > > >
> > > > Appreciate all information...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Jay Darst
> > > > 85PT40
> > > > Springfield, IL
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
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1997 Bluebird 43' - p_a_lazar - 07-23-2006 02:30
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@... wrote:
>
> Paul, when did the '"steerable tag" come into play?
Not sure on that one Ernie, but I believe it was only used for one
year and had to be on the LX series.
Paul
97wb43
1997 Bluebird 43' - Gregory OConnor - 07-23-2006 03:42
Tom, I have rescued friends (more then 10 times) when the chp gave
them one hour to produce a 'Com. A' driver or 'tow and impound'.
That 10 K trailer rule applies even if the trailer with a GVW of
+10,000 is empty and being pulled by a SUV. This is a big abuse of
the spirit of the law and a major inconvenience to me as I have to
sit road side to be signed off by the impounding officer.
Pulling a trailer with more loadable capacity than your intended
cargo and driving a Motorhome with air brakes proves the driver to be
responsible and safer. I believe a special airbrake endorsement
should be required for any airbrake operator even if it is a
miniwini. Driving skills test for large vehicles is a good idea and
we are all safer because your class of drivers took the time to learn
and test.
Thank you.
Gregory O'Connor
94ptRomoland Ca
But, just because you have a hunting license doesn't mean you wont
accidentally shoot someone in the face. Republicans proclaim in
defence,"But I have a license."
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Tom McCarthy"
>
> The trailer has to be less than 10,000 pounds, if my memory serves
me
> well.
>
> T2Shoes McCarthy
> '95 PT42
> Poway, CA
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
>
> >
> > Tom, Does California Non commercial B limit you from pulling a
> > trailer? Commercial class A is a upgrade to pulling a trailer
From
> a
> > Commercial B. DO you get double the infraction points on a
ticket?
> > Dmv holds Commercial drivers to a higher standard and gives us
> double
> > points towards loss of license.
> >
> > Gregory O'Connor
> > Class A , class A driver too
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Tom McCarthy"
> >
> > >
> > > Pete,
> > >
> > > Didn't your test involve backing up off a street turning to a
> > loading
> > > dock? Mine did. I asked the examiner why and he said it was
> part
> > of
> > > the commercial test so I had to do it.
> > >
> > > Tommy 'Two Shoes' McCarthy
> > > '95 PT42 WBSA
> > > Poway, CA (first housecar 40'+ test for commercial class B in
> > > Econdido DMV)
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Jay,
> > > >
> > > > When I was searching for my purchase, I was looking at '97
> > and '98
> > > > units at the top end of those that I was considering.
> > Ultimately,
> > > > George's coach became available through eBay (from Mr.
> Oliver's)
> > at
> > > a
> > > > very good price. While there are some interior appearance
> issues,
> > > the
> > > > coach had many advantages -- so I made my purchase. Here's
some
> > of
> > > > the thoughts I had about the newer units -
> > > >
> > > > Pro -
> > > > Newer, potentially less wear and tear.
> > > > More modern systems, such as DD Series 60 engine instead of
the
> > 8v92
> > > > possibly only had one owner (a con, if the owner didn't take
> > good
> > > > care of it).
> > > > Parts are probably less difficult to find.
> > > > Interior more likely to be in good condition.
> > > > Uses standard home-style plastic plumbing. (While this might
> be
> > > > considered a con, I understand that the previous copper
> plumbing
> > > was
> > > > a non-standard size that was difficult to get parts for.)
> > > >
> > > > Con -
> > > > '97s are generally priced at around $200K -- there's quite a
> bit
> > > of
> > > > depreciation yet to come out. For example, my '95 was more
than
> > > $70K
> > > > less than the asking price of most '97s and is essentially
the
> > same.
> > > > Might just be at the age where stuff (that has an age-related
> > wear
> > > > pattern) is likely to fail.
> > > > Over 40' in most states requires getting a non commercial
class
> > B
> > > > driver's license. (Incredibly, they want you to demonstrate
> > > parallel
> > > > parking the beast for the license.)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Pete Masterson
> > > > aeonix1@
> > > > '95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 4203
> > > > El Sobrante, CA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jul 22, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Jay Darst wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Any pro's or con's to the 1997 43' Wanderlodge?
> > > > >
> > > > > What have these been selling for $$$ ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Have researched asking prices on several www sites...
> > > > >
> > > > > Appreciate all information...
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Jay Darst
> > > > > 85PT40
> > > > > Springfield, IL
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> >
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1997 Bluebird 43' - Howard O. Truitt - 07-23-2006 03:48
Tommy,
I live in Georgia would I be affected by the length limit or license if I
visited Ca.
Howard Truitt
Camilla, Ga.
86 PT40
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1997 Bluebird 43' - Gregory OConnor - 07-23-2006 04:07
Ernie, Lift not steer. I am sure you know if you turn on the drive or
center axle, you have a shorter wheel bace. I believe all PT have the
ability to lose grip on the tag and make a tighter R turn. On the 94 I
drop air out of the tag air bags and drag my tag tires sideways as I
swing off the center drive axle.
I am sure you also know that if you get hung up on the tag axle ( speed
bump, incline , soft sand) you can dump the bags and ride on the
center drive.
'Twin screw' is a term for a set of axles that both have drive. 'PT' is
a set where one axle (pusher) drives and one (Tag)follows.
Gregory O'Connor
94ptRomolandCa
'Taging, untill mass is over'
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@... wrote:
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> Paul, when did the '"steerable tag" come into play?
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83 PT40
> Livingston, Montana
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