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EMS 50C - Henry Jay Hannigan - 03-25-2007 01:46
---DARN, I already bought the permanent one!!! have not taken it
out of the box yet.
Regards,
Hank Hannigan..chillin inVegas
90SP36
In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Howard O. Truitt"
>
> Gardner,
> I think some of us would rather use the portable Progressive EMS
PT30 or PT 50C Surge Protector. One of the great advantages is being
able to connect the portable to the outlet and check the outlet and
power before pulling in and setting up. How about seeing if a deal
could be arranged with Tweety's on the portable units. The going
price I have found on the PT 50C is $399.00 S&H included.
> Howard Truitt
> Camilla, Ga.
> 86 PT40
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
EMS 50C - Gardner Yeaw - 03-25-2007 02:30
I like the built in because I plan to place it after the transfer
switch. By doing that I can also monitor my generator output. It
will be nice to have the frequency display to keep track of the
generator performance.
Gardner
78FC33
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "snowbirdtogo"
>
> Gardner,
> On the recommendation of Ralph F. and the shop that does my coach
> work, I called Rodger at Tweety's and changed my order from
hardwire
> to the portable version. The additional cost of portable version
was
> only a couple dollars more.
> Roy Anderson
> 1986 PT-40
> Springfield VA
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Howard O. Truitt"
>
> >
> > Gardner,
> > I think some of us would rather use the portable Progressive EMS
> PT30 or PT 50C Surge Protector. One of the great advantages is
being
> able to connect the portable to the outlet and check the outlet and
> power before pulling in and setting up. How about seeing if a deal
> could be arranged with Tweety's on the portable units. The going
price
> I have found on the PT 50C is $399.00 S&H included.
> > Howard Truitt
> > Camilla, Ga.
> > 86 PT40
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
EMS 50C - Don Bradner - 03-25-2007 04:58
As others have noted, Tweety's tends to be the best price around on a lot of
things. I had never heard of them before this EMS thing came up, but when I went
looking for a couple of Kwikee Superslides, Tweety's was about $70 each less
than others. When I ordered I mentioned they were getting that because of the
Wanderlodge deal, even though I wasn't interested in an EMS.
Oh, their portable 50-amp EMS is $289.98. Their current on the hardwire is
$299.98, and both are listed as sale prices.
On 3/25/2007 at 7:24 AM Howard O. Truitt wrote:
>Gardner,
>I think some of us would rather use the portable Progressive EMS PT30 or
>PT 50C Surge Protector. One of the great advantages is being able to
>connect the portable to the outlet and check the outlet and power before
>pulling in and setting up. How about seeing if a deal could be arranged
>with Tweety's on the portable units. The going price I have found on the
>PT 50C is $399.00 S&H included.
>Howard Truitt
>Camilla, Ga.
>86 PT40
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Eureka, CA
EMS 50C - Leroy Eckert - 03-25-2007 07:36
And the PT-50-B that I have does the same thing. There is a 136 second (I
think) delay as the unit checks the electrical data.
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL
As for theft, I stay in nice parks.
----- Original Message -----
From: Wilhelmus Schreurs
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: EMS 50C
Guys:
One thing with the hardwired unit, it does not function immediately. If you
plug in your cord and the wires are mixed up, neutral broken or ground not
there, the contactor will not pick up thus not giving you any power in the
coach.
AND once plugged in, if there is a problem of any sort the contactor drops out
not giving you any power to the coach.
Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
Terrace, B.C. Canada
----- Original Message ----
From: Don Bradner
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 9:58:18 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: EMS 50C
As others have noted, Tweety's tends to be the best price around on a lot of
things. I had never heard of them before this EMS thing came up, but when I went
looking for a couple of Kwikee Superslides, Tweety's was about $70 each less
than others. When I ordered I mentioned they were getting that because of the
Wanderlodge deal, even though I wasn't interested in an EMS.
Oh, their portable 50-amp EMS is $289.98. Their current on the hardwire is
$299.98, and both are listed as sale prices.
On 3/25/2007 at 7:24 AM Howard O. Truitt wrote:
>Gardner,
>I think some of us would rather use the portable Progressive EMS PT30 or
>PT 50C Surge Protector. One of the great advantages is being able to
>connect the portable to the outlet and check the outlet and power before
>pulling in and setting up. How about seeing if a deal could be arranged
>with Tweety's on the portable units. The going price I have found on the
>PT 50C is $399.00 S&H included.
>Howard Truitt
>Camilla, Ga.
>86 PT40
>
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>
Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Eureka, CA
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EMS 50C - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 03-25-2007 08:33
To me the biggest drawback is not the theft, but the cable going into the Bird,
that would not be checked.
The biggest problem in electrical is either the wiring at the plug or the cord
iteself, so a portable one would check the plug but not the cable. The
hardwired one does both.
Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
Terrace, B.C. Canada
----- Original Message ----
From: "jvredden@..."
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 10:09:16 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: EMS 50C
what is the advantage to portable EMS? The hardwire seems pretty
straight
forward ( note, I havent dont it yet). The portable has the potential risk of
theft as a downside. If it gets stolen it offers no protection at all.
john redden
91 pt40
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EMS 50C - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 03-25-2007 08:37
Guys:
One thing with the hardwired unit, it does not function immediately. If you
plug in your cord and the wires are mixed up, neutral broken or ground not
there, the contactor will not pick up thus not giving you any power in the
coach.
AND once plugged in, if there is a problem of any sort the contactor drops out
not giving you any power to the coach.
Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
Terrace, B.C. Canada
----- Original Message ----
From: Don Bradner
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 9:58:18 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: EMS 50C
As others have noted, Tweety's tends to be the best price around on
a lot of things. I had never heard of them before this EMS thing came up, but
when I went looking for a couple of Kwikee Superslides, Tweety's was about $70
each less than others. When I ordered I mentioned they were getting that because
of the Wanderlodge deal, even though I wasn't interested in an EMS.
Oh, their portable 50-amp EMS is $289.98. Their current on the hardwire is
$299.98, and both are listed as sale prices.
On 3/25/2007 at 7:24 AM Howard O. Truitt wrote:
>Gardner,
>I think some of us would rather use the portable Progressive EMS PT30 or
>PT 50C Surge Protector. One of the great advantages is being able to
>connect the portable to the outlet and check the outlet and power before
>pulling in and setting up. How about seeing if a deal could be arranged
>with Tweety's on the portable units. The going price I have found on the
>PT 50C is $399.00 S&H included.
>Howard Truitt
>Camilla, Ga.
>86 PT40
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>Yahoo! Groups Links
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Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Eureka, CA
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EMS 50C - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 03-25-2007 08:45
BIG MISTAKE going with the portable unit.
As I said in another post, the hardwire one will also check the portable cable
which is usually the biggest problem on the electrical side.
Ralph, can you explain yourself, why you would think the portable one is better,
as the I think the portable one would only do a partial job.
Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
Terrace, B.C. Canada
----- Original Message ----
From: Henry Jay Hannigan
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:46:25 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: EMS 50C
---DARN, I already bought the permanent one!!! have not taken it
out of the box yet.
Regards,
Hank Hannigan..chillin inVegas
90SP36
In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Howard O. Truitt"
>
> Gardner,
> I think some of us would rather use the portable Progressive EMS
PT30 or PT 50C Surge Protector. One of the great advantages is being
able to connect the portable to the outlet and check the outlet and
power before pulling in and setting up. How about seeing if a deal
could be arranged with Tweety's on the portable units. The going
price I have found on the PT 50C is $399.00 S&H included.
> Howard Truitt
> Camilla, Ga.
> 86 PT40
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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EMS 50C - mbulriss - 03-25-2007 08:56
Bill,
That's why mine is being installed (when I get to it) only on the
shore power, so I can still have gen set power.
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Wilhelmus Schreurs
>
> Guys:
> One thing with the hardwired unit, it does not function immediately.
If you plug in your cord and the wires are mixed up, neutral broken
or ground not there, the contactor will not pick up thus not giving
you any power in the coach.
>
>
> AND once plugged in, if there is a problem of any sort the
contactor drops out not giving you any power to the coach.
>
> Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
> Terrace, B.C. Canada
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Don Bradner
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 9:58:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: EMS 50C
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> As others have noted, Tweety's tends to be the best
price around on a lot of things. I had never heard of them before this
EMS thing came up, but when I went looking for a couple of Kwikee
Superslides, Tweety's was about $70 each less than others. When I
ordered I mentioned they were getting that because of the Wanderlodge
deal, even though I wasn't interested in an EMS.
>
>
>
> Oh, their portable 50-amp EMS is $289.98. Their current on the
hardwire is $299.98, and both are listed as sale prices.
>
>
>
> On 3/25/2007 at 7:24 AM Howard O. Truitt wrote:
>
>
>
> >Gardner,
>
> >I think some of us would rather use the portable Progressive EMS
PT30 or
>
> >PT 50C Surge Protector. One of the great advantages is being able to
>
> >connect the portable to the outlet and check the outlet and power
before
>
> >pulling in and setting up. How about seeing if a deal could be arranged
>
> >with Tweety's on the portable units. The going price I have found
on the
>
> >PT 50C is $399.00 S&H included.
>
> >Howard Truitt
>
> >Camilla, Ga.
>
> >86 PT40
>
> >
>
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>
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EMS 50C - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 03-25-2007 09:16
Mike:
It also has a feature for frequency, so if the frequency or voltage is out of
whack on the generator the contactor would not pull in.
Mike, everyone has there own reasons for doing things, and IMHO, I would want
the EMS to protect as much as it is capable of. Is this EMS the perfect
solution, no, but it is the best there is available that I have been able to
find.
Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
Terrace, B.C. Canada
----- Original Message ----
From: mbulriss <mbulriss@...>
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 1:56:44 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: EMS 50C
Bill,
That's why mine is being installed (when I get to it) only on the
shore power, so I can still have gen set power.
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX
--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Wilhelmus Schreurs
>
> Guys:
> One thing with the hardwired unit, it does not function immediately.
If you plug in your cord and the wires are mixed up, neutral broken
or ground not there, the contactor will not pick up thus not giving
you any power in the coach.
>
>
> AND once plugged in, if there is a problem of any sort the
contactor drops out not giving you any power to the coach.
>
> Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
> Terrace, B.C. Canada
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Don Bradner
> To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 9:58:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: EMS 50C
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> As others have noted, Tweety's tends to be the best
price around on a lot of things. I had never heard of them before this
EMS thing came up, but when I went looking for a couple of Kwikee
Superslides, Tweety's was about $70 each less than others. When I
ordered I mentioned they were getting that because of the Wanderlodge
deal, even though I wasn't interested in an EMS.
>
>
>
> Oh, their portable 50-amp EMS is $289.98. Their current on the
hardwire is $299.98, and both are listed as sale prices.
>
>
>
> On 3/25/2007 at 7:24 AM Howard O. Truitt wrote:
>
>
>
> >Gardner,
>
> >I think some of us would rather use the portable Progressive EMS
PT30 or
>
> >PT 50C Surge Protector. One of the great advantages is being able to
>
> >connect the portable to the outlet and check the outlet and power
before
>
> >pulling in and setting up. How about seeing if a deal could be arranged
>
> >with Tweety's on the portable units. The going price I have found
on the
>
> >PT 50C is $399.00 S&H included.
>
> >Howard Truitt
>
> >Camilla, Ga.
>
> >86 PT40
>
> >
>
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>
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>
> >
>
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>
>
>
> Don Bradner
>
> 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
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> Eureka, CA
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EMS 50C - Rob Robinson - 03-25-2007 09:26
Bill as I understand it, if you have the EMS wired before the Transfer
Switch and either the shore power or the generator malfunction the
functional one will still be available. In other words, if the genny started
putting out funky power this would only cause the genny to be obstructed.
Correct shore power would still get through. Is this correct???
On 25/03/07, Wilhelmus Schreurs
>
> Mike:
> It also has a feature for frequency, so if the frequency or voltage is out
> of whack on the generator the contactor would not pull in.
> Mike, everyone has there own reasons for doing things, and IMHO, I would
> want the EMS to protect as much as it is capable of. Is this EMS the perfect
> solution, no, but it is the best there is available that I have been able to
> find.
>
> Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
> Terrace, B.C. Canada
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: mbulriss <mbulriss@... <mbulriss%40yahoo.com>>
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 1:56:44 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: EMS 50C
>
> Bill,
>
> That's why mine is being installed (when I get to it) only on the
>
> shore power, so I can still have gen set power.
>
> Mike Bulriss
>
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
>
> San Antonio, TX
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Wilhelmus Schreurs
>
>
>
> >
>
> > Guys:
>
> > One thing with the hardwired unit, it does not function immediately.
>
> If you plug in your cord and the wires are mixed up, neutral broken
>
> or ground not there, the contactor will not pick up thus not giving
>
> you any power in the coach.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > AND once plugged in, if there is a problem of any sort the
>
> contactor drops out not giving you any power to the coach.
>
> >
>
> > Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
>
> > Terrace, B.C. Canada
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ----- Original Message ----
>
> > From: Don Bradner
>
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 9:58:18 AM
>
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: EMS 50C
>
> >
>
> >
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> >
>
> > As others have noted, Tweety's tends to be the best
>
> price around on a lot of things. I had never heard of them before this
>
> EMS thing came up, but when I went looking for a couple of Kwikee
>
> Superslides, Tweety's was about $70 each less than others. When I
>
> ordered I mentioned they were getting that because of the Wanderlodge
>
> deal, even though I wasn't interested in an EMS.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Oh, their portable 50-amp EMS is $289.98. Their current on the
>
> hardwire is $299.98, and both are listed as sale prices.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On 3/25/2007 at 7:24 AM Howard O. Truitt wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > >Gardner,
>
> >
>
> > >I think some of us would rather use the portable Progressive EMS
>
> PT30 or
>
> >
>
> > >PT 50C Surge Protector. One of the great advantages is being able to
>
> >
>
> > >connect the portable to the outlet and check the outlet and power
>
> before
>
> >
>
> > >pulling in and setting up. How about seeing if a deal could be arranged
>
> >
>
> > >with Tweety's on the portable units. The going price I have found
>
> on the
>
> >
>
> > >PT 50C is $399.00 S&H included.
>
> >
>
> > >Howard Truitt
>
> >
>
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>
> > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{
>
> > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;}
>
> > #ygrp-sponsor #nc {
>
> > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;}
>
> > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{
>
> > padding:8px 0;}
>
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>
> >
>
> font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size: 100%;line-
> height:122% ;}
>
> > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{
>
> > text-decoration: none;}
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
> > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;}
>
> > .replbq {margin:4;}
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> > -->
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> >
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> >
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> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
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> <!--
>
> #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean,
> sans-serif;}
> #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;}
> #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean,
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> #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;}
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> font-family:Arial;
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> #ygrp-vitnav{
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> #ygrp-vitnav a{
> padding:0 1px;}
> #ygrp-actbar{
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> #ygrp-actbar .left{
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> .bld{font-weight:bold;}
> #ygrp-grft{
> font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;}
> #ygrp-ft{
> font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666;
> padding:5px 0;
> }
> #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{
> padding-bottom:10px;}
>
> #ygrp-vital{
> background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;}
> #ygrp-vital #vithd{
>
>
font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\
ercase;}
> #ygrp-vital ul{
> padding:0;margin:2px 0;}
> #ygrp-vital ul li{
> list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee;
> }
> #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{
>
>
font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\
ght:.5em;}
> #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{
> font-weight:bold;}
> #ygrp-vital a {
> text-decoration:none;}
>
> #ygrp-vital a:hover{
> text-decoration:underline;}
>
> #ygrp-sponsor #hd{
> color:#999;font-size:77%;}
> #ygrp-sponsor #ov{
> padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;}
> #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{
> padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;}
> #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{
> list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;}
> #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{
> text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;}
> #ygrp-sponsor #nc {
> background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;}
> #ygrp-sponsor .ad{
> padding:8px 0;}
> #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{
>
>
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\
;}
> #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{
> text-decoration:none;}
> #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{
> text-decoration:underline;}
> #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{
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> .MsoNormal {
> margin:0 0 0 0;}
> #ygrp-text tt{
> font-size:120%;}
> blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;}
> .replbq {margin:4;}
> -->
>
> __________________________________________________
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