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Alternators Rebuilt - Gregory OConnor - 04-01-2007 09:56 My 94Pt has the same symptoms. center position reads but either side has no reading. I have no idea if my alts put out other then I have full 13+v on the 11 batteries when I stop. It would be a nice option to have working proper. Inverter camping this weekend in the desert, I noticed the leg one and two volts and amp gauges have no reading at all????. Is it normal for a 94'ishPt to have the inverter power not show up on the gauges? GregoryO'Connor 94PT RomolandCa --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002" > > > Well: I checked out the (6) relays and all of them function > correctly, so the problem has to be before the relays, like a circuit > breaker or could be at the switch. I'll keep looking. > > I can send you the schematic later today, when I have a minute to > scan it. > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert" > > > > > Mine does the same thing. It is one of two squawk items I have and > has been on the list for three years. I have chased the ghost before > but without a schematic. I finally unplugged my fault light. > Everthing has been fine but I need to check the alternators with a > multi-meter periodically. > > > > A while back someone, I think Don Bradner, had a similar problem > with alternators and the crazy switch readings. As I recall, someone > else, perhaps the prior owner of his coach stated that the switch did > not work properly because the alternators were not perfectly matched > up or something like that, and BB installed some kind of delay > wiring. I do not recall seeing a post as to the final results. > Perhaps he can let us know. > > > > Could I get a copy of your schematic? > > > > Leroy Eckert > > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" > > Niceville, FL > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: ronmarabito2002 > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:47 PM > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Alternators Rebuilt > > > > > > > > I have the wiring diagram showing these 6 relays. Sure seems > > over-engineered to me. > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbrund" <mbrund@> wrote: > > > > > > I have the same issue, they would fine when in the center position, > > > but when I try 1 or 2 I get no reading. I do not think there is > > > anything wrong, but it is on my list of things to look into some > day. > > > > > > Michael Brundridge > > > 1992 WB40 - newbie > > > Georgetown, TX > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002" > > > > > > > > > > > Just had my alternators rebuilt and I installed them today. > > > The > > > > last unit went out after 1400 miles and we suspected all kinds of > > > > things could have caused it, but it turned out to be very simple, > > > but > > > > probably a one in a million possibility. > > > > > > > > After I removed the unit, I found a short between a diode and > > > the > > > > case, which was caused by some unknown object flying up onto the > > > back > > > > of the alternator and selding them together. Unfortunately, I > > > could > > > > not determine what it was, since it was melted. At first I > thought > > > the > > > > battery cable might have touched the case, but it did not. Had it > > > > done so, it would have been welded in place and insulation around > > > the > > > > terminal would have melted. > > > > > > > > I get amp readings with the switch in the neutral position > > > only. > > > > When I switch to 1 or 2, I don't get an amp reading. I plan to > > > remove > > > > the six relays tomorrow that control the ammeter readings and the > > > > fault light. I might also pull the switch and see if I have good > > > > connections and contacts. > > > > > > > > I'll let you all know what I find. > > > > > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > Alternators Rebuilt - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 04-01-2007 10:07 Don: I cannot see the fault light on the schematic. Is it on there? If not, do you have any further details on this fault light, where it is located etc. Thanks Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge" Terrace, B.C. Canada ----- Original Message ---- From: Don Bradner To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2007 9:24:35 AM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Alternators Rebuilt The delay is on the fault light. The switch worked, but one alternator had no output, and that was apparently real. After replacing both alternators with a pair that are identical models I have output in all three switch positions, and the center position is roughly double what each is showing separately. I would not expect to get the fault light, but I haven't driven it long enough since the alternators were installed to tell. The delay is roughly 30 minutes. I have uploaded my schematic here: http://www.arcatape t.net/travel/ bluebirds/ chargerschematic .jpg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Alternators Rebuilt - Don Bradner - 04-01-2007 10:16 It is labeled "DS3" and is powered from relays K7 and/or K8. On my alternators there are wires on each to one each of the 3 stator connections - those are typically thought of as tach outputs, but I don't think the coach gets its tach readings there, and they are apparently used to keep power to those relays (note the diode on each). If either loses power, that side of the LED drops to ground and it lights up. On 4/1/2007 at 3:07 PM Wilhelmus Schreurs wrote: >Don: >I cannot see the fault light on the schematic. Is it on there? If not, do >you have any further details on this fault light, where it is located etc. >Thanks Don Bradner 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder" Eureka, CA Alternators Rebuilt - Leroy Eckert - 04-01-2007 10:23 In my bus the leg voltage and the amp usage gauges work when the genset is running or plugged to shore power. When dry camping on the inverter, the LED bar graph (Trace Inverter) control panel shows amp usage. Over a period of time I see the pilot dash battery volt gauge drop, at which time I start the genset to recharge. Depending on equipment usage I can go 16-36 hours without starting the genset. I have six 12v house batteries. When the shore power or genset power is terminated the inverter automatically goes to inverter mode, unless I shut it off. That is good because the reefer keeps cooling in case of a power failure, assuming gas is available. My inverter does not supply 110v to the bay outlets, so the outside entertainment system will only work with shore power or the genset. Hope this helps. Yours may be different because it is a later model. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" Niceville, FL Royale Conversion ----- Original Message ----- From: Gregory OConnor To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 4:56 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Alternators Rebuilt My 94Pt has the same symptoms. center position reads but either side has no reading. I have no idea if my alts put out other then I have full 13+v on the 11 batteries when I stop. It would be a nice option to have working proper. Inverter camping this weekend in the desert, I noticed the leg one and two volts and amp gauges have no reading at all????. Is it normal for a 94'ishPt to have the inverter power not show up on the gauges? GregoryO'Connor 94PT RomolandCa --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002" > > > Well: I checked out the (6) relays and all of them function > correctly, so the problem has to be before the relays, like a circuit > breaker or could be at the switch. I'll keep looking. > > I can send you the schematic later today, when I have a minute to > scan it. > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert" > > > > > Mine does the same thing. It is one of two squawk items I have and > has been on the list for three years. I have chased the ghost before > but without a schematic. I finally unplugged my fault light. > Everthing has been fine but I need to check the alternators with a > multi-meter periodically. > > > > A while back someone, I think Don Bradner, had a similar problem > with alternators and the crazy switch readings. As I recall, someone > else, perhaps the prior owner of his coach stated that the switch did > not work properly because the alternators were not perfectly matched > up or something like that, and BB installed some kind of delay > wiring. I do not recall seeing a post as to the final results. > Perhaps he can let us know. > > > > Could I get a copy of your schematic? > > > > Leroy Eckert > > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" > > Niceville, FL > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: ronmarabito2002 > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:47 PM > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Alternators Rebuilt > > > > > > > > I have the wiring diagram showing these 6 relays. Sure seems > > over-engineered to me. > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbrund" <mbrund@> wrote: > > > > > > I have the same issue, they would fine when in the center position, > > > but when I try 1 or 2 I get no reading. I do not think there is > > > anything wrong, but it is on my list of things to look into some > day. > > > > > > Michael Brundridge > > > 1992 WB40 - newbie > > > Georgetown, TX > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002" > > > > > > > > > > > Just had my alternators rebuilt and I installed them today. > > > The > > > > last unit went out after 1400 miles and we suspected all kinds of > > > > things could have caused it, but it turned out to be very simple, > > > but > > > > probably a one in a million possibility. > > > > > > > > After I removed the unit, I found a short between a diode and > > > the > > > > case, which was caused by some unknown object flying up onto the > > > back > > > > of the alternator and selding them together. Unfortunately, I > > > could > > > > not determine what it was, since it was melted. At first I > thought > > > the > > > > battery cable might have touched the case, but it did not. Had it > > > > done so, it would have been welded in place and insulation around > > > the > > > > terminal would have melted. > > > > > > > > I get amp readings with the switch in the neutral position > > > only. > > > > When I switch to 1 or 2, I don't get an amp reading. I plan to > > > remove > > > > the six relays tomorrow that control the ammeter readings and the > > > > fault light. I might also pull the switch and see if I have good > > > > connections and contacts. > > > > > > > > I'll let you all know what I find. > > > > > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Alternators Rebuilt - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 04-01-2007 10:36 Thanks Don Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge" Terrace, B.C. Canada ----- Original Message ---- From: Don Bradner To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2007 3:16:46 PM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Alternators Rebuilt It is labeled "DS3" and is powered from relays K7 and/or K8. On my alternators there are wires on each to one each of the 3 stator connections - those are typically thought of as tach outputs, but I don't think the coach gets its tach readings there, and they are apparently used to keep power to those relays (note the diode on each). If either loses power, that side of the LED drops to ground and it lights up. On 4/1/2007 at 3:07 PM Wilhelmus Schreurs wrote: >Don: >I cannot see the fault light on the schematic. Is it on there? 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Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Alternators Rebuilt - Bob & Carol Howald` - 04-01-2007 12:03 You won't see anything on the leg-1 or leg-2 gauge ,unless your running the gen set or plugged in. You should have a excellent idea of weather or not your alternators are working by just looking at the engine battery and coach battery gauge's they should be reading about 14 volts. If you don't have a alternator on line they'll go down quick. Bob 93pt > > My 94Pt has the same symptoms. center position reads but either side > has no reading. I have no idea if my alts put out other then I have > full 13+v on the 11 batteries when I stop. It would be a nice option > to have working proper. > > Inverter camping this weekend in the desert, I noticed the leg one > and two volts and amp gauges have no reading at all????. Is it normal > for a 94'ishPt to have the inverter power not show up on the gauges? > > GregoryO'Connor > 94PT RomolandCa > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002" > > > > > > > Well: I checked out the (6) relays and all of them function > > correctly, so the problem has to be before the relays, like a > circuit > > breaker or could be at the switch. I'll keep looking. > > > > I can send you the schematic later today, when I have a minute > to > > scan it. > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert" > > > > > > > > Mine does the same thing. It is one of two squawk items I have > and > > has been on the list for three years. I have chased the ghost > before > > but without a schematic. I finally unplugged my fault light. > > Everthing has been fine but I need to check the alternators with a > > multi-meter periodically. > > > > > > A while back someone, I think Don Bradner, had a similar problem > > with alternators and the crazy switch readings. As I recall, > someone > > else, perhaps the prior owner of his coach stated that the switch > did > > not work properly because the alternators were not perfectly matched > > up or something like that, and BB installed some kind of delay > > wiring. I do not recall seeing a post as to the final results. > > Perhaps he can let us know. > > > > > > Could I get a copy of your schematic? > > > > > > Leroy Eckert > > > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" > > > Niceville, FL > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: ronmarabito2002 > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:47 PM > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Alternators Rebuilt > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the wiring diagram showing these 6 relays. Sure seems > > > over-engineered to me. > > > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbrund" <mbrund@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > I have the same issue, they would fine when in the center > position, > > > > but when I try 1 or 2 I get no reading. I do not think there > is > > > > anything wrong, but it is on my list of things to look into > some > > day. > > > > > > > > Michael Brundridge > > > > 1992 WB40 - newbie > > > > Georgetown, TX > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just had my alternators rebuilt and I installed them today. > > > > The > > > > > last unit went out after 1400 miles and we suspected all > kinds of > > > > > things could have caused it, but it turned out to be very > simple, > > > > but > > > > > probably a one in a million possibility. > > > > > > > > > > After I removed the unit, I found a short between a diode > and > > > > the > > > > > case, which was caused by some unknown object flying up > onto the > > > > back > > > > > of the alternator and selding them together. Unfortunately, > I > > > > could > > > > > not determine what it was, since it was melted. At first I > > thought > > > > the > > > > > battery cable might have touched the case, but it did not. > Had it > > > > > done so, it would have been welded in place and insulation > around > > > > the > > > > > terminal would have melted. > > > > > > > > > > I get amp readings with the switch in the neutral position > > > > only. > > > > > When I switch to 1 or 2, I don't get an amp reading. I plan > to > > > > remove > > > > > the six relays tomorrow that control the ammeter readings > and the > > > > > fault light. I might also pull the switch and see if I have > good > > > > > connections and contacts. > > > > > > > > > > I'll let you all know what I find. > > > > > > > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Alternators Rebuilt - nelson slinkman - 04-02-2007 08:00 Bob, How do you know what alternator is being used. Or do they both come on together. Thanks Nelson SLinkman 1994 40' --- Bob & Carol Howald` wrote: > You won't see anything on the leg-1 or leg-2 > gauge ,unless your > running the gen set or plugged in. You should have a > excellent idea > of weather or not your alternators are working by > just looking at the > engine battery and coach battery gauge's they should > be reading about > 14 volts. If you don't have a alternator on line > they'll go down > quick. Bob 93pt > > > > > > My 94Pt has the same symptoms. center position > reads but either > side > > has no reading. I have no idea if my alts put out > other then I have > > full 13+v on the 11 batteries when I stop. It > would be a nice > option > > to have working proper. > > > > Inverter camping this weekend in the desert, I > noticed the leg one > > and two volts and amp gauges have no reading at > all????. Is it > normal > > for a 94'ishPt to have the inverter power not show > up on the > gauges? > > > > GregoryO'Connor > > 94PT RomolandCa > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, > "ronmarabito2002" > > > > > > > > > > > Well: I checked out the (6) relays and all of > them function > > > correctly, so the problem has to be before the > relays, like a > > circuit > > > breaker or could be at the switch. I'll keep > looking. > > > > > > I can send you the schematic later today, > when I have a > minute > > to > > > scan it. > > > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy > Eckert" > > > > > > > > > > > Mine does the same thing. It is one of two > squawk items I have > > and > > > has been on the list for three years. I have > chased the ghost > > before > > > but without a schematic. I finally unplugged my > fault light. > > > Everthing has been fine but I need to check the > alternators with a > > > multi-meter periodically. > > > > > > > > A while back someone, I think Don Bradner, had > a similar problem > > > with alternators and the crazy switch readings. > As I recall, > > someone > > > else, perhaps the prior owner of his coach > stated that the switch > > did > > > not work properly because the alternators were > not perfectly > matched > > > up or something like that, and BB installed > some kind of delay > > > wiring. I do not recall seeing a post as to the > final results. > > > Perhaps he can let us know. > > > > > > > > Could I get a copy of your schematic? > > > > > > > > Leroy Eckert > > > > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" > > > > Niceville, FL > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: ronmarabito2002 > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:47 PM > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Alternators > Rebuilt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the wiring diagram showing these 6 > relays. Sure seems > > > > over-engineered to me. > > > > > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, > "mbrund" <mbrund@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have the same issue, they would fine > when in the center > > position, > > > > > but when I try 1 or 2 I get no reading. I > do not think > there > > is > > > > > anything wrong, but it is on my list of > things to look into > > some > > > day. > > > > > > > > > > Michael Brundridge > > > > > 1992 WB40 - newbie > > > > > Georgetown, TX > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, > "ronmarabito2002" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just had my alternators rebuilt and I > installed them > today. > > > > > The > > > > > > last unit went out after 1400 miles and > we suspected all > > kinds of > > > > > > things could have caused it, but it > turned out to be very > > simple, > > > > > but > > > > > > probably a one in a million possibility. > > > > > > > > > > > > After I removed the unit, I found a > short between a diode > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > case, which was caused by some unknown > object flying up > > onto the > > > > > back > > > > > > of the alternator and selding them > together. > Unfortunately, > > I > > > > > could > > > > > > not determine what it was, since it was > melted. At first I > > > thought > > > > > the > > > > > > battery cable might have touched the > case, but it did > not. > > Had it > > > > > > done so, it would have been welded in > place and > insulation > > around > > > > > the > > > > > > terminal would have melted. > > > > > > > > > > > > I get amp readings with the switch in > the neutral > position > > > > > only. > > > > > > When I switch to 1 or 2, I don't get an > amp reading. I > plan > > to > > > > > remove > > > > > > the six relays tomorrow that control the > ammeter readings > > and the > > > > > > fault light. I might also pull the > switch and see if I > have > > good > > > > > > connections and contacts. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll let you all know what I find. > > > > > > > > > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ Alternators Rebuilt - Bob & Carol Howald` - 04-02-2007 13:37 Nelson: I guess the only way to tell which alternator is actually generating the most is to check the alternator 1---2 guage. It's my own personal opinion that this is a worthless instrument. It's not very reliable, causes lot's of confusion and just is not necessary.As long as your getting good readings on your house and engine battery voltage instrument your in good shape. I have always said that if you want to know which alternator is putting out and how much, go to the electrical bus on the rear firewall and check it out with a voltage meter. Do we really drive down the road checking the #1 verses # 2 alternator meter(guage) no, I don't think so. We just look and see if the batteries are being charged. It work's for me, No need to make things too complicated. Good to see your post, wondering where you've been......Bob 93pt, Illinois..... > > How do you know what alternator is being used. Or do > they both come on together. > > Thanks > Nelson SLinkman 1994 40' > > --- Bob & Carol Howald` > wrote: > > > You won't see anything on the leg-1 or leg-2 > > gauge ,unless your > > running the gen set or plugged in. You should have a > > excellent idea > > of weather or not your alternators are working by > > just looking at the > > engine battery and coach battery gauge's they should > > be reading about > > 14 volts. If you don't have a alternator on line > > they'll go down > > quick. Bob 93pt > > > > > > > > > > My 94Pt has the same symptoms. center position > > reads but either > > side > > > has no reading. I have no idea if my alts put out > > other then I have > > > full 13+v on the 11 batteries when I stop. It > > would be a nice > > option > > > to have working proper. > > > > > > Inverter camping this weekend in the desert, I > > noticed the leg one > > > and two volts and amp gauges have no reading at > > all????. Is it > > normal > > > for a 94'ishPt to have the inverter power not show > > up on the > > gauges? > > > > > > GregoryO'Connor > > > 94PT RomolandCa > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, > > "ronmarabito2002" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well: I checked out the (6) relays and all of > > them function > > > > correctly, so the problem has to be before the > > relays, like a > > > circuit > > > > breaker or could be at the switch. I'll keep > > looking. > > > > > > > > I can send you the schematic later today, > > when I have a > > minute > > > to > > > > scan it. > > > > > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy > > Eckert" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mine does the same thing. It is one of two > > squawk items I have > > > and > > > > has been on the list for three years. I have > > chased the ghost > > > before > > > > but without a schematic. I finally unplugged my > > fault light. > > > > Everthing has been fine but I need to check the > > alternators with a > > > > multi-meter periodically. > > > > > > > > > > A while back someone, I think Don Bradner, had > > a similar problem > > > > with alternators and the crazy switch readings. > > As I recall, > > > someone > > > > else, perhaps the prior owner of his coach > > stated that the switch > > > did > > > > not work properly because the alternators were > > not perfectly > > matched > > > > up or something like that, and BB installed > > some kind of delay > > > > wiring. I do not recall seeing a post as to the > > final results. > > > > Perhaps he can let us know. > > > > > > > > > > Could I get a copy of your schematic? > > > > > > > > > > Leroy Eckert > > > > > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" > > > > > Niceville, FL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: ronmarabito2002 > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:47 PM > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Alternators > > Rebuilt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the wiring diagram showing these 6 > > relays. Sure seems > > > > > over-engineered to me. > > > > > > > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, > > "mbrund" <mbrund@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the same issue, they would fine > > when in the center > > > position, > > > > > > but when I try 1 or 2 I get no reading. I > > do not think > > there > > > is > > > > > > anything wrong, but it is on my list of > > things to look into > > > some > > > > day. > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael Brundridge > > > > > > 1992 WB40 - newbie > > > > > > Georgetown, TX > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, > > "ronmarabito2002" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just had my alternators rebuilt and I > > installed them > > today. > > > > > > The > > > > > > > last unit went out after 1400 miles and > > we suspected all > > > kinds of > > > > > > > things could have caused it, but it > > turned out to be very > > > simple, > > > > > > but > > > > > > > probably a one in a million possibility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After I removed the unit, I found a > > short between a diode > > > and > > > > > > the > > > > > > > case, which was caused by some unknown > > object flying up > > > onto the > > > > > > back > > > > > > > of the alternator and selding them > > together. > > Unfortunately, > > > I > > > > > > could > > > > > > > not determine what it was, since it was > > melted. At first I > > > > thought > > > > > > the > > > > > > > battery cable might have touched the > > case, but it did > > not. > > > Had it > > > > > > > done so, it would have been welded in > > place and > > insulation > > > around > > > > > > the > > > > > > > terminal would have melted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I get amp readings with the switch in > > the neutral > > position > > > > > > only. > > > > > > > When I switch to 1 or 2, I don't get an > > amp reading. I > > plan > > > to > > > > > > remove > > > > > > > the six relays tomorrow that control the > > ammeter readings > > > and the > > > > > > > fault light. I might also pull the > > switch and see if I > > have > > > good > > > > > > > connections and contacts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll let you all know what I find. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > R.E. 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