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inverter / charger - Stephen Birtles - 06-01-2007 06:16 Magnum is good stuff Stephen 77fc35 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "" > > Ebay seller has an Magnum MS2812 inverter/charger for sale. Would b a good replacement for the original system on my pt40? He says it's pure sinewave? And new.Marvin SkaggsBuffalo, Ky. 427161984 PT40--- On Sat 05/26, Tom Warner < warbucks@... > wrote:From: Tom Warner [mailto: warbucks@...]To: WanderlodgeForum@...: Sat, 26 May 2007 08:39:06 -0400Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: inverter / charger > > > > Greg the house batteries are "used up" as you put it and I assume that means have to be replaced because very few coach owners understand how to properly size their charger/inverter and connecting cables and wiring and to properly care for and manage their batteries. They discharge below 12V simply because few coach owners have an accurate way of monitoring their condition from inside the coach and in real time. As you note one way to keep the batteries from discharging below 12V is to install an automatic generator start but in my opinion that does not help with monitoring the condition etc of the batteries, alternator and generator outputs.I for instance have installed new batteries in my 1985 PT 40 (six 6VDC deep cycle Interstate batteries) simply because the former owner installed 6 red top Optima 12VDC batteries as house batteries. They were the wrong kind (red tops are for starting not deep cycle) and only 55AH each which is not adequate for this coach. Also installed > all new 4/0 battery cables and to and from the charger. Also new 10 gauge cables from the main power panel to the charger and from the new subpanel to the inverter. I also installed a new subpanel for the inverter and switched all of the inside receptacles and the microwave and electric curtains over to the subpanel. Also installed a link 2000 which will monitor the batteries and their condition, the alternator voltage and current, the generator voltage and current, and will show the hours for the batteries to get to any voltage I set it for which is 12.3V for mine. With the Link 1000/2000 I can monitor the current draw of every device inside the coach that operates from 12VDC, monitor the condition of the batteries etc. To me this is a powerful device as it gives me confidence whether boondocking, on the road, or at a RV Park plugged into shore power as to the condition of everything in the coach.The charger or alternator will also charge the battery efficiently if the > original circuits are kept in good repair and checked so that we are assured they work properly. I have helped several others troubleshoot their generator charging circuits and I am told they now work.If you do a lot of boondocking then you should calculate your 12VDC loads so you can install the best battery bank , charger/inverter to efficiently handle it. A good source for that ishttp://www.phrannie.org/battery.htmlhttp://www.phrannie.org/invert.htmlYou can use the OEM battery chargers but they are very inefficient, overcharge your batteries causing them to fail prematurely and really should be replaced. I strongly recommend the Xantrex Freedom 458 series charger/inverters with the Link 1000 or 2000 controls. I would buy a refurbished unit if they are available.As for your comment of "current going to the batteries from the house 110 chargers" that is only possible if you do not separate the power to the charger from the power from the inverter. That is resolved by > installing a subpanel that has the circuits for the microwave, electric curtains and inside receptacles in my case and powering the charger from its original breaker in the main power panel. These are some of the issues we are going to discuss at the June 8-10 rally here in Vernon,NY along with working on some of the coaches in attendance.tom warnervernon center,ny1985 PT 40At 12:54 AM 5/26/2007, you wrote:>Howard, It seems that the rigs that have seperate engine batts , keep>that bank longer than house batt bank.I think the house bats get used>up because they are depleted past 12 v often. the auto genny/starts>will keep the house batbank closer to 12 and I think help keep the>batteries longer.>>Motorcoaches go through alts on their engines and I wondered if>current going to the bateries from the house 110 chargers harms the>alts??. Are the alt to battery path diode protected??? if the diode>fails will it fail making two way contact or stop any > flow???>>GregoryO'Connor>94ptRomolandCa>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, > Messages in this topic (0) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls > > Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > > > Recent Activity > > 9New Members > 3New Photos > 1New FilesVisit Your Group SPONSORED LINKS > > Recreational vehicles > Recreational vehicle financing > Recreational vehicle repair > Recreational vehicle rental > Recreational vehicle camper > > > Health ZoneLook your best! > Groups to help you > look & feel great. > Yahoo! FinanceIt's Now Personal > Guides, news, > advice & more. > Yahoo! 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