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Anyone ever use POR-15? - Scott Forman - 07-21-2007 15:07
Did u use the etcher the POR company sells?
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, David Brady
wrote:
>
> Not that I'm aware of. The phosphoric acid etcher does do a
> number on aluminum.
>
> David Brady
> '02 LXi, Smokey
> NC
>
> Scott Forman wrote:
> >
> > Is there anything to keep it away from (electrical, etc)?
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Definitely brush it on, just wear gloves and don't get any on
your
> > > hands. After it self-levels it'll look like you sprayed it. The
> > final
> > > finish is very similar to powder coating in appearance and
> > toughness.
> > > Those foam/sponge brushes are best, cheap bristle brushes leave
> > > bristles in the paint.
> > >
> > > David Brady
> > > '02 LXi, Smokey
> > > NC
> > >
> > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Did u spray or brush it on? Is it very messy or about like any
> > other
> > > > paint?
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > >
> > > > <MHOHNSTEIN@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yup, it's good stuff. Used it many times to fix on older
truck
> > > > frames, resulting in serious value adding to the end product.
> > > > > MH
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Leroy Eckert
> > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > >
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:25 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Anyone ever use POR-15?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have used POR-15 for years. It is a great product. It
flows
> > out
> > > > nicely. You can paint over rust ( POR )or paint without the
rust
> > if
> > > > you Ospho, sandblast or etch steel. It needs something to
bite.
> > If it
> > > > is exposed to sunlight, it needs to be topcoated. I'll
guarantee
> > it
> > > > will never rust again if applied properly.
> > > > > Leroy Eckert
> > > > > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> > > > > Niceville, FL
> > > > > Royale Conversion
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Scott Forman
> > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > >
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:07 PM
> > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Anyone ever use POR-15?
> > > > >
> > > > > Seems like a good product in design, wondering if it works.
> > > > Wanting to
> > > > > address surface oxidation under my bus. Anyone use it or
know
> > > > another
> > > > > better product?
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott Forman
> > > > > 86 PT38
> > > > > With a cruddy underside
> > > > >
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Anyone ever use POR-15? - David Brady - 07-21-2007 15:09
Not that I'm aware of. The phosphoric acid etcher does do a
number on aluminum.
David Brady
'02 LXi, Smokey
NC
Scott Forman wrote:
>
> Is there anything to keep it away from (electrical, etc)?
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> wrote:
> >
> > Definitely brush it on, just wear gloves and don't get any on your
> > hands. After it self-levels it'll look like you sprayed it. The
> final
> > finish is very similar to powder coating in appearance and
> toughness.
> > Those foam/sponge brushes are best, cheap bristle brushes leave
> > bristles in the paint.
> >
> > David Brady
> > '02 LXi, Smokey
> > NC
> >
> > Scott Forman wrote:
> > >
> > > Did u spray or brush it on? Is it very messy or about like any
> other
> > > paint?
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > <MHOHNSTEIN@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yup, it's good stuff. Used it many times to fix on older truck
> > > frames, resulting in serious value adding to the end product.
> > > > MH
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Leroy Eckert
> > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:25 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Anyone ever use POR-15?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have used POR-15 for years. It is a great product. It flows
> out
> > > nicely. You can paint over rust ( POR )or paint without the rust
> if
> > > you Ospho, sandblast or etch steel. It needs something to bite.
> If it
> > > is exposed to sunlight, it needs to be topcoated. I'll guarantee
> it
> > > will never rust again if applied properly.
> > > > Leroy Eckert
> > > > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> > > > Niceville, FL
> > > > Royale Conversion
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Scott Forman
> > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:07 PM
> > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Anyone ever use POR-15?
> > > >
> > > > Seems like a good product in design, wondering if it works.
> > > Wanting to
> > > > address surface oxidation under my bus. Anyone use it or know
> > > another
> > > > better product?
> > > >
> > > > Scott Forman
> > > > 86 PT38
> > > > With a cruddy underside
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
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> 7/20/2007 4:39 PM
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4:39 PM
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Anyone ever use POR-15? - David Brady - 07-21-2007 15:14
Yup, Good night already!
David Brady
'02 LXi, Smokey
NC
David Brady wrote:
>
> Not that I'm aware of. The phosphoric acid etcher does do a
> number on aluminum.
>
> David Brady
> '02 LXi, Smokey
> NC
>
> Scott Forman wrote:
> >
> > Is there anything to keep it away from (electrical, etc)?
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Definitely brush it on, just wear gloves and don't get any on your
> > > hands. After it self-levels it'll look like you sprayed it. The
> > final
> > > finish is very similar to powder coating in appearance and
> > toughness.
> > > Those foam/sponge brushes are best, cheap bristle brushes leave
> > > bristles in the paint.
> > >
> > > David Brady
> > > '02 LXi, Smokey
> > > NC
> > >
> > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Did u spray or brush it on? Is it very messy or about like any
> > other
> > > > paint?
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> >
> > > >
> > > > <MHOHNSTEIN@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yup, it's good stuff. Used it many times to fix on older truck
> > > > frames, resulting in serious value adding to the end product.
> > > > > MH
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Leroy Eckert
> > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> >
> > > >
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:25 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Anyone ever use POR-15?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have used POR-15 for years. It is a great product. It flows
> > out
> > > > nicely. You can paint over rust ( POR )or paint without the rust
> > if
> > > > you Ospho, sandblast or etch steel. It needs something to bite.
> > If it
> > > > is exposed to sunlight, it needs to be topcoated. I'll guarantee
> > it
> > > > will never rust again if applied properly.
> > > > > Leroy Eckert
> > > > > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> > > > > Niceville, FL
> > > > > Royale Conversion
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Scott Forman
> > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> >
> > > >
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:07 PM
> > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Anyone ever use POR-15?
> > > > >
> > > > > Seems like a good product in design, wondering if it works.
> > > > Wanting to
> > > > > address surface oxidation under my bus. Anyone use it or know
> > > > another
> > > > > better product?
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott Forman
> > > > > 86 PT38
> > > > > With a cruddy underside
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.11/909 - Release Date:
> > 7/20/2007 4:39 PM
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4:39 PM
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Anyone ever use POR-15? - Scott Forman - 07-21-2007 15:14
What can I say, I like the nightlife!
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, David Brady
wrote:
>
> Yup, Good night already!
>
> David Brady
> '02 LXi, Smokey
> NC
>
> David Brady wrote:
> >
> > Not that I'm aware of. The phosphoric acid etcher does do a
> > number on aluminum.
> >
> > David Brady
> > '02 LXi, Smokey
> > NC
> >
> > Scott Forman wrote:
> > >
> > > Is there anything to keep it away from (electrical, etc)?
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Definitely brush it on, just wear gloves and don't get any on
your
> > > > hands. After it self-levels it'll look like you sprayed it.
The
> > > final
> > > > finish is very similar to powder coating in appearance and
> > > toughness.
> > > > Those foam/sponge brushes are best, cheap bristle brushes
leave
> > > > bristles in the paint.
> > > >
> > > > David Brady
> > > > '02 LXi, Smokey
> > > > NC
> > > >
> > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Did u spray or brush it on? Is it very messy or about like
any
> > > other
> > > > > paint?
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > >
> > > > >
Hohnstein"
> > > > > <MHOHNSTEIN@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yup, it's good stuff. Used it many times to fix on older
truck
> > > > > frames, resulting in serious value adding to the end
product.
> > > > > > MH
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: Leroy Eckert
> > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:25 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Anyone ever use POR-15?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have used POR-15 for years. It is a great product. It
flows
> > > out
> > > > > nicely. You can paint over rust ( POR )or paint without the
rust
> > > if
> > > > > you Ospho, sandblast or etch steel. It needs something to
bite.
> > > If it
> > > > > is exposed to sunlight, it needs to be topcoated. I'll
guarantee
> > > it
> > > > > will never rust again if applied properly.
> > > > > > Leroy Eckert
> > > > > > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> > > > > > Niceville, FL
> > > > > > Royale Conversion
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: Scott Forman
> > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:07 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Anyone ever use POR-15?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Seems like a good product in design, wondering if it
works.
> > > > > Wanting to
> > > > > > address surface oxidation under my bus. Anyone use it or
know
> > > > > another
> > > > > > better product?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scott Forman
> > > > > > 86 PT38
> > > > > > With a cruddy underside
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
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Date:
> > > 7/20/2007 4:39 PM
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Anyone ever use POR-15? - Mike Hohnstein - 07-21-2007 15:44
Yup, it's good stuff. Used it many times to fix on older truck frames,
resulting in serious value adding to the end product.
MH
----- Original Message -----
From: Leroy Eckert
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Anyone ever use POR-15?
I have used POR-15 for years. It is a great product. It flows out nicely. You
can paint over rust ( POR )or paint without the rust if you Ospho, sandblast or
etch steel. It needs something to bite. If it is exposed to sunlight, it needs
to be topcoated. I'll guarantee it will never rust again if applied properly.
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL
Royale Conversion
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Forman
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:07 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Anyone ever use POR-15?
Seems like a good product in design, wondering if it works. Wanting to
address surface oxidation under my bus. Anyone use it or know another
better product?
Scott Forman
86 PT38
With a cruddy underside
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Anyone ever use POR-15? - Mike Hohnstein - 07-21-2007 16:51
Done it both wayz, spray requires masking, somewhat. Brush works OK too. Keep
in mind my experience has been on vintage dump trucks.
However, it makes them look impressive and I usually get top buck when selling
time comes.
MH
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Forman
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:54 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Anyone ever use POR-15?
Did u spray or brush it on? Is it very messy or about like any other
paint?
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein"
<MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote:
>
> Yup, it's good stuff. Used it many times to fix on older truck
frames, resulting in serious value adding to the end product.
> MH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Leroy Eckert
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Anyone ever use POR-15?
>
>
> I have used POR-15 for years. It is a great product. It flows out
nicely. You can paint over rust ( POR )or paint without the rust if
you Ospho, sandblast or etch steel. It needs something to bite. If it
is exposed to sunlight, it needs to be topcoated. I'll guarantee it
will never rust again if applied properly.
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
> Royale Conversion
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Forman
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:07 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Anyone ever use POR-15?
>
> Seems like a good product in design, wondering if it works.
Wanting to
> address surface oxidation under my bus. Anyone use it or know
another
> better product?
>
> Scott Forman
> 86 PT38
> With a cruddy underside
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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>
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Anyone ever use POR-15? - Jon - 07-21-2007 16:56
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@...>
wrote:
>
> Seems like a good product in design, wondering if it works.
Wanting to
> address surface oxidation under my bus. Anyone use it or know
another
> better product?
>
> Scott Forman
> 86 PT38
> With a cruddy underside
I used it on my Thunderbird under the rocker area's and inside on the
floor pan. It works great and I even used it to patch a couple of
rust out holes using fiber glass screening material. This stuff is a
little expensive but works great!
But if you are going to do the whole underneath of your rig than I
would suggest you might spray on some type of rust inhibitor and then
spray with a good undercoating! I did this with my Dodge and it
worked out just fine.
>
Anyone ever use POR-15? - Leroy Eckert - 07-21-2007 19:55
I always remove the flaky rust before treating although I do not believe it is
required.
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Forman
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:29 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Anyone ever use POR-15?
Is prep required to go over a rusty surface?
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert"
>
> I have used POR-15 for years. It is a great product. It flows out
nicely. You can paint over rust ( POR )or paint without the rust if
you Ospho, sandblast or etch steel. It needs something to bite. If it
is exposed to sunlight, it needs to be topcoated. I'll guarantee it
will never rust again if applied properly.
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
> Royale Conversion
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Forman
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:07 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Anyone ever use POR-15?
>
>
> Seems like a good product in design, wondering if it works.
Wanting to
> address surface oxidation under my bus. Anyone use it or know
another
> better product?
>
> Scott Forman
> 86 PT38
> With a cruddy underside
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Anyone ever use POR-15? - ebirder2000@... - 07-21-2007 22:52
I have used POR-15 for several projects on the bus. It is an exceptional
product that produces a hard glossy finish that is very chip resistant and easy
to clean. BUT... in order to get the results that are possible from it
requires a lot of preparatory work. All loose rust must be removed requiring
scrappin
g wire brushing etc. Then the metal preparatory solution, actually an acid
etcher, needs to be applied, allowed to work and then thoroughly rinsed off in
order to stop the acid action. The surface to be painted must be dry. Make
sure that you wear gloves as POR -15 is difficult to remove from your skin.
Your results will be great with if you follow the directions. POR 15 is not an
inexpensive product for large projects like an entire bus chassis.
I have been painting/repainting the chassis of my bus small sections and
have had good results from a product called Hammerite. The preparation process
is far less complicated. I have been removing all the loose rust, cleaning all
the grease and oil from the surface to be covered with solvents then brush
painting it on. The product has shown excellent adherence to the chassis and
has been holding up well. The acid etching process required for POR-15 is not
required. The best part is that Hammerite costs about one forth as much as
POR-15.
I am not suggesting that Hammerite is a better product than POR-15. In fact
it is not. But to be practical, if you are repainting an entire chassis as it
sits, that is, with the all the electrical, wiring, hoses and accessories
still attached, and are working under the bus. Then acid etching and complete
rust removal is not possible. I recommend the less expensive, easier route. I
think you will probably be satisfied with the results.
Steve Anderson
79 FC 35
Poulsbo, Wa.
In a message dated 7/21/2007 6:08:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
sforman@... writes:
Seems like a good product in design, wondering if it works. Wanting to
address surface oxidation under my bus. Anyone use it or know another
better product?
Scott Forman
86 PT38
With a cruddy underside
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Anyone ever use POR-15? - Ron Thompson - 07-22-2007 01:07
Where can you buy this? A regular paint store or does it have to be bought?
Does Home Depot or Lowe's handle it?
Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
1995 WLWB 42'Blue Bird
(cockyfox@...)
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