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Water in fuel - pattypape - 01-10-2008 07:15 Hi,Don, I think our dash is similar...??? The water in fuel sensor is on the main fuel tank, If you short the wires together, the water in fuel (tank) light will illuminate, The other sensor is the low fuel light again short together to see this dash light-up, The overhead dash light is the water in Racor filter audio alarm and the tiny red light. I suspect a corroded wire terminal, the road dirt build-up and moisture on these wire contacts can turn on these lights. It time you head South. Bill 88 FC Michigan --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, dspithaler@... wrote: > > ? > > > ?Hi Guys > > > ??? Just changed both filters & drained the drains with no water in fuel. I took it for?a short drive &? the water in fuel light on the center dash came on. It went on?& off for a while. When I got home I checked the sending?unit on the main tank. The wire felt loose like it was bad?in the unit. It is a push on. Does anyone know if this is the unit that is wired to? the center dash on is the?buzzer?on the bulkhead wired to it? Can this unit be removed without out draining the tank. I don't think there is any water in the tank? I do use a water?treatment?in my fuel?? > > > Thanks Don > > > 89 SP 36' > > > Butler, PA > > > ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????? > #AOLMsgPart_2_4c3579ba-4989-4124-8b5e-6ecc044175f0 > > #AOLMsgPart_2_4c3579ba-4989-4124-8b5e-6ecc044175f0 > > #AOLMsgPart_2_4c3579ba-4989-4124-8b5e-6ecc044175f0 > > > ______________________________________________________________________ __ > Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Water in fuel - erniecarpet@... - 01-10-2008 08:03 Don, could you solder a new wire onto that connector? Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Weatherford, Tx **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Water in fuel - dspithaler@... - 01-10-2008 12:58 Hi Ralph ?? I narrowed it down to a bad wire on the sensor on the tank. It is a bad connector on the sender. I'll probably have to?have a?low fuel tank to fix it. ???? Don Spithaler 89 SP 36' Butler, PA ---- Original Message ---- From: Ralph L. Fullenwider To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 1:17 pm Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] water in fuel Hi Don: Do you have the water in fuel sensor in your Racor filter housing? There will be 4 wires on the clear bowl, 2 wires are pre heat, the other 2 are water in fuel. Just a thought. Safe travels, Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider 84FC35 "Ruff Diamond" Duncan, Oklahoma At 01:08 PM 1/10/2008 -0500, you wrote: >? > > >?Hi Guys > > >??? Just changed both filters & drained the drains with no water in fuel. >I took it for?a short drive &? the water in fuel light on the center dash >came on. It went on?& off for a while. When I got home I checked the >sending?unit on the main tank. The wire felt loose like it was bad?in the >unit. It is a push on. Does anyone know if this is the unit that is wired >to? the center dash on is the?buzzer?on the bulkhead wired to it? Can this >unit be removed without out draining the tank. I don't think there is any >water in the tank? I do use a water?treatment?in my fuel?? > > >Thanks Don > > >89 SP 36' > > >Butler, PA > > #AOLMsgPart_2_5c737ca3-2815-4259-8296-7b4b6ccdb1eb #AOLMsgPart_2_5c737ca3-2815-4259-8296-7b4b6ccdb1eb #AOLMsgPart_2_5c737ca3-2815-4259-8296-7b4b6ccdb1eb ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Water in fuel - pattypape - 01-10-2008 13:19 Hi Ernie, Ralph, All, Have anyone changed these sensors on the fuel tank??? Seems like this could be a real diesel bath. It also seems that the only real test to check these sensors is to dump a couple gallon of water in the tank an see if the alarm lights. Then try to run the fuel down until the low fuel light glows. This is really asking for trouble. Or I maybe I just have too much extra time tonight and should just watch some TV. Bill 88 FC Michigan --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@... wrote: > > Don, could you solder a new wire onto that connector? > > Ernie Ekberg > 83PT40 > Weatherford, Tx > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise? NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Water in fuel - Donald Watson - 01-10-2008 13:37 Bill, What you been drinking? :-) It was bad enough that you suggested pouring water in your tank, but then "try to run the fuel down until the low fuel light glows"? Actually you could put water in your tank (providing that there is a drain in the lowest part of the tank to easily remove it) if you were that serious about testing a water sensor in your tank, but isn't the sensor in your primary fuel filter? (Pardon me, but I'm not familiar with the '88 FC fuel system.) You could always introduce water into your fuel filter WITHOUT starting the engine to check a water sensor, but then you'd have to prime the system to get rid of air once you had purged the filter of water. Draining fuel from the bottom of the tank isn't a bad idea. It does give you a chance to clean out some water and sludge, but the task would be easier if your tank was relatively low. There's quite a bit of head pressure with a lot of fuel. Have a good evening and enjoy the TV. Donn 76 FC33 South Kingstown, RI From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of pattypape Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:20 PM To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: water in fuel Hi Ernie, Ralph, All, Have anyone changed these sensors on the fuel tank??? Seems like this could be a real diesel bath. It also seems that the only real test to check these sensors is to dump a couple gallon of water in the tank an see if the alarm lights. Then try to run the fuel down until the low fuel light glows. This is really asking for trouble. Or I maybe I just have too much extra time tonight and should just watch some TV. Bill 88 FC Michigan --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > Don, could you solder a new wire onto that connector? > > Ernie Ekberg > 83PT40 > Weatherford, Tx > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise? NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Water in fuel - Gregory OConnor - 01-10-2008 14:08 I never considered checking the sender in my tank because the amount of water that is needed in the footprint of the tank would be major if it was to hit and glow the warning. The fuel pickup most likely is far enough off the bottom that 'at rest' water settling to the bottom would not load up the filter on a startup. Once on the road water gets sloshed up in the fuel feed, the filter water seperator would show signs quick. the volumn of water necessary to glow a warning light in the filter is way less that the volumn necessary in the tank. Given the posted reliability of the light ;A non illuminated water in tank light is just as unsetteling as a false reading water in tank glow. The only way to know if the light is working is to open up the tank. I often thought of hooking the water in filter sender to the dash water in tank indicator because if there is water in the filter there is/was water in the tank. GregoryO'Connor 94ptRomolandCa --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, dspithaler@... wrote: > > ? > > > ?Hi Guys > > > ??? Just changed both filters & drained the drains with no water in fuel. I took it for?a short drive &? the water in fuel light on the center dash came on. It went on?& off for a while. When I got home I checked the sending?unit on the main tank. The wire felt loose like it was bad?in the unit. It is a push on. Does anyone know if this is the unit that is wired to? the center dash on is the? buzzer?on the bulkhead wired to it? Can this unit be removed without out draining the tank. I don't think there is any water in the tank? I do use a water?treatment?in my fuel?? > > > Thanks Don > > > 89 SP 36' > > > Butler, PA > > > ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????? > #AOLMsgPart_2_4c3579ba-4989-4124-8b5e-6ecc044175f0 > > #AOLMsgPart_2_4c3579ba-4989-4124-8b5e-6ecc044175f0 > > #AOLMsgPart_2_4c3579ba-4989-4124-8b5e-6ecc044175f0 > > > _____________________________________________________________________ ___ > Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Water in fuel - dspithaler@... - 01-10-2008 16:23 Greg?? ??? I think that is right. For now I think I will just disconnect that sender unit. ? Don Spithaler 89 SP 36' Butler, PA ---- Original Message ---- From: Gregory OConnor To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 9:08 pm Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: water in fuel I never considered checking the sender in my tank because the amount of water that is needed in the footprint of the tank would be major if it was to hit and glow the warning. The fuel pickup most likely is far enough off the bottom that 'at rest' water settling to the bottom would not load up the filter on a startup. Once on the road water gets sloshed up in the fuel feed, the filter water seperator would show signs quick. the volumn of water necessary to glow a warning light in the filter is way less that the volumn necessary in the tank. Given the posted reliability of the light ;A non illuminated water in tank light is just as unsetteling as a false reading water in tank glow. The only way to know if the light is working is to open up the tank. I often thought of hooking the water in filter sender to the dash water in tank indicator because if there is water in the filter there is/was water in the tank. GregoryO'Connor 94ptRomolandCa --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, dspithaler@... wrote: > > ? > > > ?Hi Guys > > > ??? Just changed both filters & drained the drains with no water in fuel. I took it for?a short drive &? the water in fuel light on the center dash came on. It went on?& off for a while. When I got home I checked the sending?unit on the main tank. The wire felt loose like it was bad?in the unit. It is a push on. Does anyone know if this is the unit that is wired to? the center dash on is the? buzzer?on the bulkhead wired to it? Can this unit be removed without out draining the tank. I don't think there is any water in the tank? I do use a water?treatment?in my fuel?? > > > Thanks Don > > > 89 SP 36' > > > Butler, PA > > > ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????? > #AOLMsgPart_2_4c3579ba-4989-4124-8b5e-6ecc044175f0 > > #AOLMsgPart_2_4c3579ba-4989-4124-8b5e-6ecc044175f0 > > #AOLMsgPart_2_4c3579ba-4989-4124-8b5e-6ecc044175f0 > > > __________________________________________________________ ___ > Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > #AOLMsgPart_2_b820a5e1-c33e-482b-9553-8e09376f8b38 #AOLMsgPart_2_b820a5e1-c33e-482b-9553-8e09376f8b38 #AOLMsgPart_2_b820a5e1-c33e-482b-9553-8e09376f8b38 ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Water in fuel - dspithaler@... - 01-10-2008 16:58 Ernie?? ?? I'll take a look at it later?it isn't very nice here right & we want to get out of here tomorrow. It just made me a little nervuse when the light came on.? Have a safe trip north Don Spithaler ---- Original Message ---- From: erniecarpet@... To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 8:03 pm Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] water in fuel Don, could you solder a new wire onto that connector? Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Weatherford, Tx **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] #AOLMsgPart_2_7b5d59e0-408d-4ec0-bb75-8e998dbe33a8 #AOLMsgPart_2_7b5d59e0-408d-4ec0-bb75-8e998dbe33a8 #AOLMsgPart_2_7b5d59e0-408d-4ec0-bb75-8e998dbe33a8 ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Water in fuel - erniecarpet@... - 01-10-2008 19:46 Bill, my gauge will stay around 1/2 for a couple days, then begin to drop. I gauge my fuel consumption by mileage- I get 5mpg. I don't want to run my tank too low. There is no priming handle on my Detroit. Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Weatherford, Tx **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Water in fuel - sfedeli3 - 01-10-2008 23:04 Hi Don, Have you ever drained some fuel from the bottom of the main tank? Each time that I do an oil change, I drain around a gallon of fuel from the tank (near the sending unit) and find rust, water and sludge in the bottom of the bucket when I'm done. After everything settles out, I re-use the good fuel in the bucket. It is messy. As for changing the sending unit, some fuel will splash out when you remove the sender- just have the new one ready to go and put your finger over the hole or insert a 1/4" npt plug until you get the new one. I removed and replaced mine last summer. If you need part ##'s, let me know- they are available on line. And yes, the less fuel that is in the tank, the lower the pressure when you remove the sending unit. Shane Fedeli 85PT40 Hershey, PA --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, dspithaler@... wrote: > > ? > > > ?Hi Guys > > > ??? Just changed both filters & drained the drains with no water in fuel. I took it for?a short drive &? the water in fuel light on the center dash came on. It went on?& off for a while. When I got home I checked the sending?unit on the main tank. The wire felt loose like it was bad?in the unit. It is a push on. Does anyone know if this is the unit that is wired to? the center dash on is the?buzzer?on the bulkhead wired to it? Can this unit be removed without out draining the tank. I don't think there is any water in the tank? I do use a water?treatment?in my fuel?? > > > Thanks Don > > > 89 SP 36' > > > Butler, PA > > > ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > #AOLMsgPart_2_4c3579ba-4989-4124-8b5e-6ecc044175f0 > > #AOLMsgPart_2_4c3579ba-4989-4124-8b5e-6ecc044175f0 > > #AOLMsgPart_2_4c3579ba-4989-4124-8b5e-6ecc044175f0 > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |