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Do they sell any devices? - Rob Robinson - 10-07-2007 10:35
I agree but it was never worth only 61 cents. I have firmly believed for
years that our long reigning Liberal governent kept our dollar low to give
our manufacturers a trade edge. Funny how after only two years of a
Conservative Gov't our dollar has gone up. I don't believe the US dollar has
fallen nearly forty cents in relation to the Cdn dollar. I believe it is a
combination of our new gov't taking a 'hands off' approach and some portion
of a falling US dollar.
On 07/10/2007, bloomas
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rob Robinson
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 3:20 PM
>
> Us Government borrows so much money to make up for the tax cuts that is
> what makes the US dollar so weak.
> It is not that the Cd.dollar is strong.
> Bob Loomas
>
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Do they sell any devices?
>
> Steve I believe previous Liberal gov't had a lot to do with the 61 cent
> dollar. I don't think you'll ever see that again.
>
> On 07/10/2007, Stephen Birtles
> wrote:
> >
> > There was a time when a Canadian dollar fetched a lowly 61 cents US.
> > It will change again just takes a little time.
> > Stephen 77fc35
> > dupreeproducts.com
> > 888-668-4288
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Ron Thompson
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Rob,
> > > I am trying to keep a positive outlook, but its tough what with
> > inflation here in the states. Have you seen what the dollar is doing
> > against other currencies right now. Don't look good. Of course our
> > federal reserve is cranking up the printing presses to keep up. Yukkk.
> > >
> > > I am outta here for now. Have a good Sunday and keep the faith.
> > >
> > > Ron
> > >
> > > Rob Robinson
> > Don't dispare Ron. I look at this way. Everything we eat, wear or
> > use comes
> > > by truck and when they start parking those babies is when I'll start
> > > worrying. Keep in mind there is enough oil up here in the tar sands
> for
> > > North America for 100 years at present usage rate. Long enough for our
> > > rving.
> > >
> > > On 07/10/2007, Ron Thompson
> > > >
> > > > Rob,
> > > > Thanks for the response. I ran my pump full blast witht the
> > opposite fuel
> > > > cap off and no back up. You might try that next time you fill up.
> > > >
> > > > "FILL UP" What a laugh. 500 bucks only gets you a half tank at
> > best. You
> > > > know they are still forecasting $200.00 a barrell for crude oil.
> > That will
> > > > double our cost at least. What a miserble future we are looking at.
> > > >
> > > > Ron
> > > >
> > > > Rob Robinson
> > > > 94 fills from either side into the same tank. I have thought of
> using
> > > > the opposite fill as a vent but haven't tried it yet. I put the
> > nozzle on
> > > > lowest setting and walk away until it clicks off. It usually
> > spits back
> > > > but
> > > > I make sure I'm not there to receive. After that I slowly fill
> > and watch
> > > > the
> > > > foam as it regurgitates back up the fill nozzle, back off, fill
> > some more
> > > > and so on. If there is no one behind me I can fill her right up
> > to the top
> > > > of the fill tube.
> > > >
> > > > On 07/10/2007, Ron Thompson
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey, I have a question here about the fuel tanks. I have a 1995
> > WL Wide
> > > > > body with 300 gallon capacity. The first time I fueled up, I got a
> > > > backup
> > > > > bath. The next time I filled up, since there are Fuel Inlets on
> > both
> > > > sides I
> > > > > opened them both up and never got a back up. Was that
> > coincidence or are
> > > > > those two inlets going into the same 300 gallon tank.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have owned this bird only since about July and really don't know
> > > > whether
> > > > > there are two seperate tanks or just one with two inlets.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone out there have an answer. Would appreciate it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ron Thompson
> > > > > 1995 WLWB 42'
> > > > > Detroit Diesel Series 60
> > > > >
> > > > > Jon
> > > > I know you can use a
> > > > > plastic hose to keep the gas tank when filling
> > > > > up with fuel from backing up and splashing you?
> > > > >
> > > > > I was just wondering as if you ever lost that hose in your tank
> you
> > > > > would be in a world of hurt.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh yes I notice that the my 78 when I tried to fill it up at
> > the high
> > > > > speed pumps it just won't accept the fuel and there again it
> > backs up
> > > > > and oops all over you!
> > > > >
> > > > > My friends David Beatty motor home doesn't do this and I guess its
> > > > > just the design of the tank and the fill pipe.
> > > > >
> > > > > You would have thought that the Blue Bird corporation would
> > have made
> > > > > a special fill pipe in the first place so you wouldn't haft to
> > fiddle
> > > > > around with a plastic hose dropped into the tank to keep it from
> > > > > burping back on you.
> > > > >
> > > > > While were on the Blue bird agenda have any of you removed any
> > of the
> > > > > cabinets up front? Boy you talk about a hash job of fitting the
> > back
> > > > > of these cabinets over the front tire wheel well. When I removed
> > > > > mine it looked like some kid out of the fourth grade cut the curve
> > > > > fit as it just looked like dog poop!!! Steve Anderson has noticed
> > > > > this also in his coach also. Million dollar coaches when it
> > comes to
> > > > > looks but get behind that look and see what kind of ship shod work
> > > > > some of there installers did back in the 70's.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh well I wonder if that goes on today????
> > > > >
> > > > > Got an estimate on installing higher gears in rear end and it
> looks
> > > > > like it will be around 2000 dollars (4.88) (Now how do I get the
> > > > > money out of the bank without my wife finding out?).
> > > > >
> > > > > Hay you guys have a great day and its just a wonderfull rainy
> > day up
> > > > > here in Washington.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jipjob
> > > > > Rebel Bird
> > > > > Bremerton Washington
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > > 94 WLWB
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
> > > > 1995 WLWB 42'Blue Bird
> > > > (cockyfox@...
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > 94 WLWB
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
> > > 1995 WLWB 42'Blue Bird
> > > (cockyfox@...)
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> 94 WLWB
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
94 WLWB
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Do they sell any devices? - Bob Lawrence - 10-07-2007 12:57
Hey Jon,
Go yo the Corvettecorrection.com...he has a bird and sells a slipin
pipe that all but eliminates the splashback.
Got one for my bird...can show it to you at the Hoodsport Rally.
That's corvettecorrection.com...not connection.com.
Seems to work ok.
Bob Lawrence
84 PT36
Tacoma, Wa.
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jon"
>
> I know you can use a plastic hose to keep the gas tank when filling
> up with fuel from backing up and splashing you?
>
> I was just wondering as if you ever lost that hose in your tank you
> would be in a world of hurt.
>
> Oh yes I notice that the my 78 when I tried to fill it up at the
high
> speed pumps it just won't accept the fuel and there again it backs
up
> and oops all over you!
>
> My friends David Beatty motor home doesn't do this and I guess its
> just the design of the tank and the fill pipe.
>
> You would have thought that the Blue Bird corporation would have
made
> a special fill pipe in the first place so you wouldn't haft to
fiddle
> around with a plastic hose dropped into the tank to keep it from
> burping back on you.
>
> While were on the Blue bird agenda have any of you removed any of
the
> cabinets up front? Boy you talk about a hash job of fitting the
back
> of these cabinets over the front tire wheel well. When I removed
> mine it looked like some kid out of the fourth grade cut the curve
> fit as it just looked like dog poop!!! Steve Anderson has noticed
> this also in his coach also. Million dollar coaches when it comes
to
> looks but get behind that look and see what kind of ship shod work
> some of there installers did back in the 70's.
>
> Oh well I wonder if that goes on today????
>
> Got an estimate on installing higher gears in rear end and it looks
> like it will be around 2000 dollars (4.88) (Now how do I get the
> money out of the bank without my wife finding out?).
>
> Hay you guys have a great day and its just a wonderfull rainy day
up
> here in Washington.
>
> Jipjob
> Rebel Bird
> Bremerton Washington
>
Do they sell any devices? - Tom McCarthy - 10-07-2007 13:17
I tried to use the opposite side as a vent one time. I found that I
fertilized the other island with diesel when I kept the pump on
high. In other words, open two caps and you backwash in stereo.
I pump on the middle setting at the truck pumps. The backwash, if
any, is minimal. I have replaced only one pair of shoes and clothing
in 4.5 years. If you want to live on the edge, pump on high and
listen close to the fill pipe to guess when it will back up and shut
the flow off just in time to avoid a bath. I love doing that. Don't
ask my batting average.
Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
Poway CA
95 PT42
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ron Thompson
wrote:
>
> Rob,
> Thanks for the response. I ran my pump full blast witht the
opposite fuel cap off and no back up. You might try that next time
you fill up.
>
> "FILL UP" What a laugh. 500 bucks only gets you a half tank at
best. You know they are still forecasting $200.00 a barrell for
crude oil. That will double our cost at least. What a miserble
future we are looking at.
>
> Ron
>
> Rob Robinson
Ron my 94 fills from either side into the same tank. I have thought
of using
> the opposite fill as a vent but haven't tried it yet. I put the
nozzle on
> lowest setting and walk away until it clicks off. It usually spits
back but
> I make sure I'm not there to receive. After that I slowly fill and
watch the
> foam as it regurgitates back up the fill nozzle, back off, fill
some more
> and so on. If there is no one behind me I can fill her right up to
the top
> of the fill tube.
>
> On 07/10/2007, Ron Thompson
> >
> > Hey, I have a question here about the fuel tanks. I have a
1995 WL Wide
> > body with 300 gallon capacity. The first time I fueled up, I got
a backup
> > bath. The next time I filled up, since there are Fuel Inlets on
both sides I
> > opened them both up and never got a back up. Was that
coincidence or are
> > those two inlets going into the same 300 gallon tank.
> >
> > I have owned this bird only since about July and really don't
know whether
> > there are two seperate tanks or just one with two inlets.
> >
> > Anyone out there have an answer. Would appreciate it.
> >
> > Ron Thompson
> > 1995 WLWB 42'
> > Detroit Diesel Series 60
> >
> > Jon
> > plastic hose to keep the gas tank when filling
> > up with fuel from backing up and splashing you?
> >
> > I was just wondering as if you ever lost that hose in your tank
you
> > would be in a world of hurt.
> >
> > Oh yes I notice that the my 78 when I tried to fill it up at the
high
> > speed pumps it just won't accept the fuel and there again it
backs up
> > and oops all over you!
> >
> > My friends David Beatty motor home doesn't do this and I guess
its
> > just the design of the tank and the fill pipe.
> >
> > You would have thought that the Blue Bird corporation would have
made
> > a special fill pipe in the first place so you wouldn't haft to
fiddle
> > around with a plastic hose dropped into the tank to keep it from
> > burping back on you.
> >
> > While were on the Blue bird agenda have any of you removed any
of the
> > cabinets up front? Boy you talk about a hash job of fitting the
back
> > of these cabinets over the front tire wheel well. When I removed
> > mine it looked like some kid out of the fourth grade cut the
curve
> > fit as it just looked like dog poop!!! Steve Anderson has noticed
> > this also in his coach also. Million dollar coaches when it
comes to
> > looks but get behind that look and see what kind of ship shod
work
> > some of there installers did back in the 70's.
> >
> > Oh well I wonder if that goes on today????
> >
> > Got an estimate on installing higher gears in rear end and it
looks
> > like it will be around 2000 dollars (4.88) (Now how do I get the
> > money out of the bank without my wife finding out?).
> >
> > Hay you guys have a great day and its just a wonderfull rainy
day up
> > here in Washington.
> >
> > Jipjob
> > Rebel Bird
> > Bremerton Washington
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> 94 WLWB
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
> 1995 WLWB 42'Blue Bird
> (cockyfox@...)
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Do they sell any devices? - bloomas - 10-07-2007 14:32
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Lawrence
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 7:57 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Do they sell any devices?
It does not work.if you are going to the RIV ill give it to you.
Bob Loomas 1985 PT 36
Hey Jon,
Go yo the Corvettecorrection.com...he has a bird and sells a slipin
pipe that all but eliminates the splashback.
Got one for my bird...can show it to you at the Hoodsport Rally.
That's corvettecorrection.com...not connection.com.
Seems to work ok.
Bob Lawrence
84 PT36
Tacoma, Wa.
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jon"
>
> I know you can use a plastic hose to keep the gas tank when filling
> up with fuel from backing up and splashing you?
>
> I was just wondering as if you ever lost that hose in your tank you
> would be in a world of hurt.
>
> Oh yes I notice that the my 78 when I tried to fill it up at the
high
> speed pumps it just won't accept the fuel and there again it backs
up
> and oops all over you!
>
> My friends David Beatty motor home doesn't do this and I guess its
> just the design of the tank and the fill pipe.
>
> You would have thought that the Blue Bird corporation would have
made
> a special fill pipe in the first place so you wouldn't haft to
fiddle
> around with a plastic hose dropped into the tank to keep it from
> burping back on you.
>
> While were on the Blue bird agenda have any of you removed any of
the
> cabinets up front? Boy you talk about a hash job of fitting the
back
> of these cabinets over the front tire wheel well. When I removed
> mine it looked like some kid out of the fourth grade cut the curve
> fit as it just looked like dog poop!!! Steve Anderson has noticed
> this also in his coach also. Million dollar coaches when it comes
to
> looks but get behind that look and see what kind of ship shod work
> some of there installers did back in the 70's.
>
> Oh well I wonder if that goes on today????
>
> Got an estimate on installing higher gears in rear end and it looks
> like it will be around 2000 dollars (4.88) (Now how do I get the
> money out of the bank without my wife finding out?).
>
> Hay you guys have a great day and its just a wonderfull rainy day
up
> here in Washington.
>
> Jipjob
> Rebel Bird
> Bremerton Washington
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Do they sell any devices? - Ron Thompson - 10-08-2007 01:07
Thanks Tom, for that response. Maybe some of these Bluebirds have two seperate
tanks.
Ron Thompson
1995 WLWB 42'
Tom McCarthy
to use the opposite side as a vent one time. I found that I
fertilized the other island with diesel when I kept the pump on
high. In other words, open two caps and you backwash in stereo.
I pump on the middle setting at the truck pumps. The backwash, if
any, is minimal. I have replaced only one pair of shoes and clothing
in 4.5 years. If you want to live on the edge, pump on high and
listen close to the fill pipe to guess when it will back up and shut
the flow off just in time to avoid a bath. I love doing that. Don't
ask my batting average.
Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
Poway CA
95 PT42
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ron Thompson
wrote:
>
> Rob,
> Thanks for the response. I ran my pump full blast witht the
opposite fuel cap off and no back up. You might try that next time
you fill up.
>
> "FILL UP" What a laugh. 500 bucks only gets you a half tank at
best. You know they are still forecasting $200.00 a barrell for
crude oil. That will double our cost at least. What a miserble
future we are looking at.
>
> Ron
>
> Rob Robinson
Ron my 94 fills from either side into the same tank. I have thought
of using
> the opposite fill as a vent but haven't tried it yet. I put the
nozzle on
> lowest setting and walk away until it clicks off. It usually spits
back but
> I make sure I'm not there to receive. After that I slowly fill and
watch the
> foam as it regurgitates back up the fill nozzle, back off, fill
some more
> and so on. If there is no one behind me I can fill her right up to
the top
> of the fill tube.
>
> On 07/10/2007, Ron Thompson
> >
> > Hey, I have a question here about the fuel tanks. I have a
1995 WL Wide
> > body with 300 gallon capacity. The first time I fueled up, I got
a backup
> > bath. The next time I filled up, since there are Fuel Inlets on
both sides I
> > opened them both up and never got a back up. Was that
coincidence or are
> > those two inlets going into the same 300 gallon tank.
> >
> > I have owned this bird only since about July and really don't
know whether
> > there are two seperate tanks or just one with two inlets.
> >
> > Anyone out there have an answer. Would appreciate it.
> >
> > Ron Thompson
> > 1995 WLWB 42'
> > Detroit Diesel Series 60
> >
> > Jon
> > plastic hose to keep the gas tank when filling
> > up with fuel from backing up and splashing you?
> >
> > I was just wondering as if you ever lost that hose in your tank
you
> > would be in a world of hurt.
> >
> > Oh yes I notice that the my 78 when I tried to fill it up at the
high
> > speed pumps it just won't accept the fuel and there again it
backs up
> > and oops all over you!
> >
> > My friends David Beatty motor home doesn't do this and I guess
its
> > just the design of the tank and the fill pipe.
> >
> > You would have thought that the Blue Bird corporation would have
made
> > a special fill pipe in the first place so you wouldn't haft to
fiddle
> > around with a plastic hose dropped into the tank to keep it from
> > burping back on you.
> >
> > While were on the Blue bird agenda have any of you removed any
of the
> > cabinets up front? Boy you talk about a hash job of fitting the
back
> > of these cabinets over the front tire wheel well. When I removed
> > mine it looked like some kid out of the fourth grade cut the
curve
> > fit as it just looked like dog poop!!! Steve Anderson has noticed
> > this also in his coach also. Million dollar coaches when it
comes to
> > looks but get behind that look and see what kind of ship shod
work
> > some of there installers did back in the 70's.
> >
> > Oh well I wonder if that goes on today????
> >
> > Got an estimate on installing higher gears in rear end and it
looks
> > like it will be around 2000 dollars (4.88) (Now how do I get the
> > money out of the bank without my wife finding out?).
> >
> > Hay you guys have a great day and its just a wonderfull rainy
day up
> > here in Washington.
> >
> > Jipjob
> > Rebel Bird
> > Bremerton Washington
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> 94 WLWB
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
> 1995 WLWB 42'Blue Bird
> (cockyfox@...)
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
1995 WLWB 42'Blue Bird
(cockyfox@...)
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Do they sell any devices? - mbulriss - 10-08-2007 04:38
Ron,
I'm not sure anyone has answered your basic question, so here goes - I
am not aware of any of the later models (82 on) with two fuel tanks
for the drive engine. The newer ones with the dual fill pipes both
feed into the same tank.
If you open both caps, and fill from one side, it allows air to expel
faster for faster filling with less backwash out the fill side. BUT,
as Tom said, you can still get overflow out the fill side and out the
vent side also when you reach full.
By the way, when are you going to join us for a Lone Star Birds rally?
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ron Thompson
wrote:
>
> Thanks Tom, for that response. Maybe some of these Bluebirds have
two seperate tanks.
>
> Ron Thompson
> 1995 WLWB 42'
>
> Tom McCarthy
I tried to use the opposite side as a vent one time. I found that I
> fertilized the other island with diesel when I kept the pump on
> high. In other words, open two caps and you backwash in stereo.
>
> I pump on the middle setting at the truck pumps. The backwash, if
> any, is minimal. I have replaced only one pair of shoes and clothing
> in 4.5 years. If you want to live on the edge, pump on high and
> listen close to the fill pipe to guess when it will back up and shut
> the flow off just in time to avoid a bath. I love doing that. Don't
> ask my batting average.
>
> Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
> Poway CA
> 95 PT42
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ron Thompson
> wrote:
> >
> > Rob,
> > Thanks for the response. I ran my pump full blast witht the
> opposite fuel cap off and no back up. You might try that next time
> you fill up.
> >
> > "FILL UP" What a laugh. 500 bucks only gets you a half tank at
> best. You know they are still forecasting $200.00 a barrell for
> crude oil. That will double our cost at least. What a miserble
> future we are looking at.
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > Rob Robinson
> Ron my 94 fills from either side into the same tank. I have thought
> of using
> > the opposite fill as a vent but haven't tried it yet. I put the
> nozzle on
> > lowest setting and walk away until it clicks off. It usually spits
> back but
> > I make sure I'm not there to receive. After that I slowly fill and
> watch the
> > foam as it regurgitates back up the fill nozzle, back off, fill
> some more
> > and so on. If there is no one behind me I can fill her right up to
> the top
> > of the fill tube.
> >
> > On 07/10/2007, Ron Thompson
> > >
> > > Hey, I have a question here about the fuel tanks. I have a
> 1995 WL Wide
> > > body with 300 gallon capacity. The first time I fueled up, I got
> a backup
> > > bath. The next time I filled up, since there are Fuel Inlets on
> both sides I
> > > opened them both up and never got a back up. Was that
> coincidence or are
> > > those two inlets going into the same 300 gallon tank.
> > >
> > > I have owned this bird only since about July and really don't
> know whether
> > > there are two seperate tanks or just one with two inlets.
> > >
> > > Anyone out there have an answer. Would appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Ron Thompson
> > > 1995 WLWB 42'
> > > Detroit Diesel Series 60
> > >
> > > Jon
> > > plastic hose to keep the gas tank when filling
> > > up with fuel from backing up and splashing you?
> > >
> > > I was just wondering as if you ever lost that hose in your tank
> you
> > > would be in a world of hurt.
> > >
> > > Oh yes I notice that the my 78 when I tried to fill it up at the
> high
> > > speed pumps it just won't accept the fuel and there again it
> backs up
> > > and oops all over you!
> > >
> > > My friends David Beatty motor home doesn't do this and I guess
> its
> > > just the design of the tank and the fill pipe.
> > >
> > > You would have thought that the Blue Bird corporation would have
> made
> > > a special fill pipe in the first place so you wouldn't haft to
> fiddle
> > > around with a plastic hose dropped into the tank to keep it from
> > > burping back on you.
> > >
> > > While were on the Blue bird agenda have any of you removed any
> of the
> > > cabinets up front? Boy you talk about a hash job of fitting the
> back
> > > of these cabinets over the front tire wheel well. When I removed
> > > mine it looked like some kid out of the fourth grade cut the
> curve
> > > fit as it just looked like dog poop!!! Steve Anderson has noticed
> > > this also in his coach also. Million dollar coaches when it
> comes to
> > > looks but get behind that look and see what kind of ship shod
> work
> > > some of there installers did back in the 70's.
> > >
> > > Oh well I wonder if that goes on today????
> > >
> > > Got an estimate on installing higher gears in rear end and it
> looks
> > > like it will be around 2000 dollars (4.88) (Now how do I get the
> > > money out of the bank without my wife finding out?).
> > >
> > > Hay you guys have a great day and its just a wonderfull rainy
> day up
> > > here in Washington.
> > >
> > > Jipjob
> > > Rebel Bird
> > > Bremerton Washington
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > 94 WLWB
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
> > 1995 WLWB 42'Blue Bird
> > (cockyfox@)
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
> 1995 WLWB 42'Blue Bird
> (cockyfox@...)
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Do they sell any devices? - Ron Thompson - 10-08-2007 08:59
Thanks Mike, for your input. I think I have my answer now. I won't run it
completely to the top on a fill up anyway. Unless of course by some magic I run
across a really low priced diesel fuel, which is unlikely these days.
I just got this Bluebird in July of this year and have only had it out about 3
or 4 times on short trips. Its been a busy year for me. Matter of fact I am
leaving to go to Louisiana for a family reunion this week on Wednesday. Won't
be taking the Bird with me this time either.
I do want to make one of those LoneStar Bird Rally's. When is the next one?
Ron Thompson
95 WLWB 42'
mbulriss <mbulriss@...> wrote: Ron,
I'm not sure anyone has answered your basic question, so here goes - I
am not aware of any of the later models (82 on) with two fuel tanks
for the drive engine. The newer ones with the dual fill pipes both
feed into the same tank.
If you open both caps, and fill from one side, it allows air to expel
faster for faster filling with less backwash out the fill side. BUT,
as Tom said, you can still get overflow out the fill side and out the
vent side also when you reach full.
By the way, when are you going to join us for a Lone Star Birds rally?
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ron Thompson
wrote:
>
> Thanks Tom, for that response. Maybe some of these Bluebirds have
two seperate tanks.
>
> Ron Thompson
> 1995 WLWB 42'
>
> Tom McCarthy
I tried to use the opposite side as a vent one time. I found that I
> fertilized the other island with diesel when I kept the pump on
> high. In other words, open two caps and you backwash in stereo.
>
> I pump on the middle setting at the truck pumps. The backwash, if
> any, is minimal. I have replaced only one pair of shoes and clothing
> in 4.5 years. If you want to live on the edge, pump on high and
> listen close to the fill pipe to guess when it will back up and shut
> the flow off just in time to avoid a bath. I love doing that. Don't
> ask my batting average.
>
> Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
> Poway CA
> 95 PT42
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ron Thompson
> wrote:
> >
> > Rob,
> > Thanks for the response. I ran my pump full blast witht the
> opposite fuel cap off and no back up. You might try that next time
> you fill up.
> >
> > "FILL UP" What a laugh. 500 bucks only gets you a half tank at
> best. You know they are still forecasting $200.00 a barrell for
> crude oil. That will double our cost at least. What a miserble
> future we are looking at.
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > Rob Robinson
> Ron my 94 fills from either side into the same tank. I have thought
> of using
> > the opposite fill as a vent but haven't tried it yet. I put the
> nozzle on
> > lowest setting and walk away until it clicks off. It usually spits
> back but
> > I make sure I'm not there to receive. After that I slowly fill and
> watch the
> > foam as it regurgitates back up the fill nozzle, back off, fill
> some more
> > and so on. If there is no one behind me I can fill her right up to
> the top
> > of the fill tube.
> >
> > On 07/10/2007, Ron Thompson
> > >
> > > Hey, I have a question here about the fuel tanks. I have a
> 1995 WL Wide
> > > body with 300 gallon capacity. The first time I fueled up, I got
> a backup
> > > bath. The next time I filled up, since there are Fuel Inlets on
> both sides I
> > > opened them both up and never got a back up. Was that
> coincidence or are
> > > those two inlets going into the same 300 gallon tank.
> > >
> > > I have owned this bird only since about July and really don't
> know whether
> > > there are two seperate tanks or just one with two inlets.
> > >
> > > Anyone out there have an answer. Would appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Ron Thompson
> > > 1995 WLWB 42'
> > > Detroit Diesel Series 60
> > >
> > > Jon
> > > plastic hose to keep the gas tank when filling
> > > up with fuel from backing up and splashing you?
> > >
> > > I was just wondering as if you ever lost that hose in your tank
> you
> > > would be in a world of hurt.
> > >
> > > Oh yes I notice that the my 78 when I tried to fill it up at the
> high
> > > speed pumps it just won't accept the fuel and there again it
> backs up
> > > and oops all over you!
> > >
> > > My friends David Beatty motor home doesn't do this and I guess
> its
> > > just the design of the tank and the fill pipe.
> > >
> > > You would have thought that the Blue Bird corporation would have
> made
> > > a special fill pipe in the first place so you wouldn't haft to
> fiddle
> > > around with a plastic hose dropped into the tank to keep it from
> > > burping back on you.
> > >
> > > While were on the Blue bird agenda have any of you removed any
> of the
> > > cabinets up front? Boy you talk about a hash job of fitting the
> back
> > > of these cabinets over the front tire wheel well. When I removed
> > > mine it looked like some kid out of the fourth grade cut the
> curve
> > > fit as it just looked like dog poop!!! Steve Anderson has noticed
> > > this also in his coach also. Million dollar coaches when it
> comes to
> > > looks but get behind that look and see what kind of ship shod
> work
> > > some of there installers did back in the 70's.
> > >
> > > Oh well I wonder if that goes on today????
> > >
> > > Got an estimate on installing higher gears in rear end and it
> looks
> > > like it will be around 2000 dollars (4.88) (Now how do I get the
> > > money out of the bank without my wife finding out?).
> > >
> > > Hay you guys have a great day and its just a wonderfull rainy
> day up
> > > here in Washington.
> > >
> > > Jipjob
> > > Rebel Bird
> > > Bremerton Washington
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > 94 WLWB
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
> > 1995 WLWB 42'Blue Bird
> > (cockyfox@)
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
> 1995 WLWB 42'Blue Bird
> (cockyfox@...)
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
1995 WLWB 42'Blue Bird
(cockyfox@...)
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Do they sell any devices? - Pete Masterson - 10-08-2007 13:32
The problem is the venting of the fuel tank. The vent is either
inadequate or clogged (or both). The older birds have a 3" fill pipe.
You can insert a 2" schedule 40 plumbing pipe down the fill tube into
the bottom of the fuel tank. These are fairly stiff and won't fall
in. I'd start with an 8' length and see if it sticks out and cut off
the end so that you can still close the cap -- but have the pipe end
just below the filler end. You place the fill nozzle into the plastic
pipe (so the fuel runs into the bottom of the tank) and then the air
isn't trapped and comes out next to the fill pipe.
There are other methods as well -- including installing a new vent or
running a vent tube from the top of the tank to the top part of the
fill tube. Either of these will probably require dropping the fuel
tank, so it's not a job for the feint of heart.
Unfortunately, these work arounds won't work for me. Sometime BB
switched from 3" fill pipes to a 2" (or 2-1/4") fill pipe and it's
too small for the outside diameter of the schedule 40 plumbing pipe
to allow sufficient 'air' room.
I find that about 25% of the time the fuel dispensers don't spit --
but 75% of the time they do. It's also a matter of how much the fuel
foams as it flows into the tank.
The problem is that the fill-tube is much longer than is common on
trucks...
Yes, I agree, that you'd think BB would have solved this problem long
ago.... but it's one of the "quirks" that we have to deal with.
Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
aeonix1@...
On Oct 7, 2007, at 9:05 AM, Jon wrote:
> I know you can use a plastic hose to keep the gas tank when filling
> up with fuel from backing up and splashing you?
>
> I was just wondering as if you ever lost that hose in your tank you
> would be in a world of hurt.
>
> Oh yes I notice that the my 78 when I tried to fill it up at the high
> speed pumps it just won't accept the fuel and there again it backs up
> and oops all over you!
>
> My friends David Beatty motor home doesn't do this and I guess its
> just the design of the tank and the fill pipe.
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Do they sell any devices? - Pete Masterson - 10-08-2007 13:53
One 300 gallon tank, two inlets. That way you don't have to turn the
coach around. Opening both inlets will allow air to escape, but you
have to watch out that the pump actually turns off when you're full
or you'll just pump through from one side to the other....
Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Hurricane UT (Zion NP)
On Oct 7, 2007, at 12:04 PM, Ron Thompson wrote:
> Hey, I have a question here about the fuel tanks. I have a 1995 WL
> Wide body with 300 gallon capacity. The first time I fueled up, I
> got a backup bath. The next time I filled up, since there are Fuel
> Inlets on both sides I opened them both up and never got a back
> up. Was that coincidence or are those two inlets going into the
> same 300 gallon tank.
>
> I have owned this bird only since about July and really don't know
> whether there are two seperate tanks or just one with two inlets.
>
> Anyone out there have an answer. Would appreciate it.
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Do they sell any devices? - Pete Masterson - 10-08-2007 14:02
That gives a whole new meaning to "getting an ear full."
Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Hurricane, UT
On Oct 7, 2007, at 7:17 PM, Tom McCarthy wrote:
> <snip>If you want to live on the edge, pump on high and
> listen close to the fill pipe to guess when it will back up and shut
> the flow off just in time to avoid a bath. I love doing that. Don't
> ask my batting average.
>
> Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
> Poway CA
> 95 PT42
<snip>
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