1111Aa RV3012M inverter installation photos - Dorn Hetzel - 06-12-2008 06:55
Of course, you can run double 4/0 (two 4/0 cables for + and two for -) or get railroad engine cable which is about 4 to 9 times the cross-sectional area of 4/0 and therefore about 1/4 to 1/9 the voltage drop for a given current. If you run two or more parallel runs of 4/0, they each carry 1/2 or 1/3 or whatever fraction of the amperage and have correspondingly lower voltage drops. I've been considering running individual 4/0 from each battery and gathering them at the inverter terminal or a nearby bus-bar.
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:39 PM, pgchd <"pgchin@bellsouth.net"> wrote:
I have a 95 42'. Two years ago I needed to replace the inverters,
Xantrex had a sale on 458's 2500W, same size as the Heart OEM's, so I
used them. I contemplated the move to the bay where the tool box is,
curb side, but in the end I used the original location. My "logic"
was I am in there anyway with a "blower" cleaning the batteries,
checking the water level, etc so "cleaning" the inverter box in not an
additional task. 2 1/2 years later no issues and the originals lasted
10 years with no cleaning effort by the prior owner. Also, I am a
"cheapskate" and was able to remove the original cables off the hearts
and reuse on the 458's. The original inverters would have lasted
longer if not for a "dumb move" on my part, user error. I've noticed
on the various for sale websites indeed they made the move about 96
sometime so they do work in the bay location. The 458's are the
"replacements" for the Hearts 2500's and I do not know the difference
between what you have and the 458's....looked at the website and still
can't tell. Anyway my 458 manual says keep the cable length at 10 feet
or shorter, if 10 feet and it is a 3000 Watt unit (I think you said
your is) then cable thickness is 4/0..... a big honkin cable. The
cable guide(owners manual) for the 458's in online so you can double
check me and it lists all wattages, I selected the numbers above based
on what I"think" you said, 3000 watts, you should validate......
getting old! :-)
Pete, Donna, and Lucky bear Chin
95 42' greater Daytona Beach area
--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "bumpersbird"
wrote:
>
> David
>
> Is that along the out side of the coach?
>
> One problem I have is my inverters are side by side, which adds a
> foot or so to one of the runs. What size cable is on your inverters?
>
> Kurt
> 95 PT-423
> 10AC
>
>
> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", David Brady
> wrote:
> >
> > I measure 14 ft.
> >
> > David
> > '02 LXi, NC
> >
> > brad barton wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't have my coach with me anymore, either, but my inverters
> are
> > > placed slightly aft of mid-coach so the 20' length might be
> pretty
> > > close.
> > >
> > > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@
> > >
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1111Aa RV3012M inverter installation photos - bumpersbird - 06-12-2008 07:30
Thanks Everybody,
The time has come to S--T or get off the Pot!
No responce yet from BB.
I've got no more time to waste on reinventing the wheel.
The new inverters are going back into the same place as the old ones.
As noted most of these inverters have been in this location for
years.
Mine have been there since 1995 so it's probably not as bad as some
belive it to be.
Anyway this frees up some funds for other projects.
Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42
10AC
1111Aa RV3012M inverter installation photos - Pete Masterson - 06-12-2008 07:38
Kurt,Â
I gotta say, I was thinking that the current location isn't all that bad. I went down and looked over my inverters -- yes, there's a bit of dirt/dust that has accumulated in the metal box -- but it's not a super serious build up.Â
I _think_ the previous owner may have replaced the inverters. At least, he installed a Link 2000 R controller (which is somewhat more sophisticated than the original, as I understand). If he replaced the inverters, they were the exact same model as the original. I'm guessing that was the case as I have 4 "owners manuals" for the two inverters.
Next time I have my work clothes on and a dust mask and goggles, I'm going to use some compressed air to blow out the dirt in the inverter box. I'm guessing that it will be pretty gross...
Pete Masterson '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 El Sobrante CA "aeonix1@mac.com"
On Jun 12, 2008, at 12:30 PM, bumpersbird wrote: Thanks Everybody,
The time has come to S--T or get off the Pot!
No responce yet from BB.
I've got no more time to waste on reinventing the wheel.
The new inverters are going back into the same place as the old ones.
As noted most of these inverters have been in this location for years.Â
Mine have been there since 1995 so it's probably not as bad as some belive it to be.
Anyway this frees up some funds for other projects.
Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 10AC
1111Aa RV3012M inverter installation photos - Terry Neal - 06-12-2008 08:09
Kurt,
I agree with you. Thanks for sharing all of your research but I think
you are right to keep the inverters in the original location.
I'll put my single unit in the same location as the Rediline was in the
rear engine compartment. Will close off the interior side towards the
engine & leave the exterior side open for ventilation. Should keep
much of the dirt off the inverter & it's only a couple of feet to
the battery bank.
Thanks again,
Terry
Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40 6V92TA
74FC34 6V53T
bumpersbird wrote:
Thanks Everybody,
The time has come to S--T or get off the Pot!
No responce yet from BB.
I've got no more time to waste on reinventing the wheel.
The new inverters are going back into the same place as the old ones.
As noted most of these inverters have been in this location for
years.
Mine have been there since 1995 so it's probably not as bad as some
belive it to be.
Anyway this frees up some funds for other projects.
Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42
10AC
1111Aa RV3012M inverter installation photos - bumpersbird - 06-12-2008 08:15
I was just finishing putting everything back in bay three and I am
now wondering should I put the electric grill back in or get the gas
fired Infrared BBQ that I have been drooling over, OH I love seared
beef!
My inverterd box is dirty to, but from the start heat was the issue.
no worries when the engine gill fans are installed their will be 3300
CFM sucking hot air out of the engine box. If that doesn't work
nothing will.
Jessie from BB Tech just called and said they never went past
whatever cables they got from Xantrex. So that answers that question.
Thanks,
Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42
10AC
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> Kurt,
>
> I gotta say, I was thinking that the current location isn't all
that
> bad. I went down and looked over my inverters -- yes, there's a
bit
> of dirt/dust that has accumulated in the metal box -- but it's not
a
> super serious build up.
>
> I _think_ the previous owner may have replaced the inverters. At
> least, he installed a Link 2000 R controller (which is somewhat
more
> sophisticated than the original, as I understand). If he replaced
the
> inverters, they were the exact same model as the original. I'm
> guessing that was the case as I have 4 "owners manuals" for the
two
> inverters.
>
> Next time I have my work clothes on and a dust mask and goggles,
I'm
> going to use some compressed air to blow out the dirt in the
inverter
> box. I'm guessing that it will be pretty gross...
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> El Sobrante CA
> aeonix1@...
>
>
>
> On Jun 12, 2008, at 12:30 PM, bumpersbird wrote:
>
> > Thanks Everybody,
> >
> > The time has come to S--T or get off the Pot!
> >
> > No responce yet from BB.
> >
> > I've got no more time to waste on reinventing the wheel.
> >
> > The new inverters are going back into the same place as the old
ones.
> >
> > As noted most of these inverters have been in this location for
> > years.
> >
> > Mine have been there since 1995 so it's probably not as bad as
some
> > belive it to be.
> >
> > Anyway this frees up some funds for other projects.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT-42
> > 10AC
> >
>
1111Aa RV3012M inverter installation photos - Terry Neal - 06-12-2008 08:48
Kurt,
Go for the gas infrared and be happy. Then you only have to put the
grill back in one time...
Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40 6V92TA
74FC34 6V53T
bumpersbird wrote:
I was just finishing putting everything back in bay three and I am
now wondering should I put the electric grill back in or get the gas
fired Infrared BBQ that I have been drooling over, OH I love seared
beef!
My inverterd box is dirty to, but from the start heat was the issue.
no worries when the engine gill fans are installed their will be 3300
CFM sucking hot air out of the engine box. If that doesn't work
nothing will.
Jessie from BB Tech just called and said they never went past
whatever cables they got from Xantrex. So that answers that question.
Thanks,
Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42
10AC
--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
Pete Masterson >
wrote:
>
> Kurt,
>
> I gotta say, I was thinking that the current location isn't all
that
> bad. I went down and looked over my inverters -- yes, there's a
bit
> of dirt/dust that has accumulated in the metal box -- but it's not
a
> super serious build up.
>
> I _think_ the previous owner may have replaced the inverters. At
> least, he installed a Link 2000 R controller (which is somewhat
more
> sophisticated than the original, as I understand). If he replaced
the
> inverters, they were the exact same model as the original. I'm
> guessing that was the case as I have 4 "owners manuals" for the
two
> inverters.
>
> Next time I have my work clothes on and a dust mask and goggles,
I'm
> going to use some compressed air to blow out the dirt in the
inverter
> box. I'm guessing that it will be pretty gross...
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> El Sobrante CA
> aeonix1@...
>
>
>
> On Jun 12, 2008, at 12:30 PM, bumpersbird wrote:
>
> > Thanks Everybody,
> >
> > The time has come to S--T or get off the Pot!
> >
> > No responce yet from BB.
> >
> > I've got no more time to waste on reinventing the wheel.
> >
> > The new inverters are going back into the same place as the
old
ones.
> >
> > As noted most of these inverters have been in this location
for
> > years.
> >
> > Mine have been there since 1995 so it's probably not as bad
as
some
> > belive it to be.
> >
> > Anyway this frees up some funds for other projects.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT-42
> > 10AC
> >
>
1111Aa RV3012M inverter installation photos - bumpersbird - 06-12-2008 09:13
WHHOOOOOOOAOOAAAA! It's hot here in 10AC.
It must be BEER:30 Came in for a cold one.
The Indugance has a propane tank, 45 gallons. On the curb side fuel
hatch, just under the diesel fill is a real convenient quick
detachable gas connection with an on-off valve. Looks like the female
end of an air hose.
I also carry a Smokey Joe BBQ. Sometimes just gotta throw it to the
smoke!
Whenever I need propane Flying J's RV island got it all. They usually
give you 0.05 off per gallon over regular price with the F-J card.
With that much propane onboard I have though about propane injection,
but like this inverter project, I hear people saying it works but, I
don't see anybody rushing to use it.
Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42
10AC
1111Aa RV3012M inverter installation photos - bumpersbird - 06-12-2008 09:13
WHHOOOOOOOAOOAAAA! It's hot here in 10AC.
It must be BEER:30 Came in for a cold one.
The Indugance has a propane tank, 45 gallons. On the curb side fuel
hatch, just under the diesel fill is a real convenient quick
detachable gas connection with an on-off valve. Looks like the female
end of an air hose.
I also carry a Smokey Joe BBQ. Sometimes just gotta throw it to the
smoke!
Whenever I need propane Flying J's RV island got it all. They usually
give you 0.05 off per gallon over regular price with the F-J card.
With that much propane onboard I have though about propane injection,
but like this inverter project, I hear people saying it works but, I
don't see anybody rushing to use it.
Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42
10AC
1111Aa RV3012M inverter installation photos - David Brady - 06-12-2008 10:05
Hi Kurt,
The wire is 4/0. I didn't take a real accurate measurement of the
length, and I left the bus a moment ago. (Less than14 ft length
estimate).
David Brady
'02 LXi, NC
bumpersbird wrote:
David
Is that along the out side of the coach?
One problem I have is my inverters are side by side, which adds a
foot or so to one of the runs. What size cable is on your inverters?
Kurt
95 PT-42
10AC
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wrote:
>
> I measure 14 ft.
>
> David
> '02 LXi, NC
>
> brad barton wrote:
> >
> > I don't have my coach with me anymore, either, but my
inverters
are
> > placed slightly aft of mid-coach so the 20' length might be
pretty
> > close.
> >
> > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@.. .
> >
> >
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