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On way home - sfedeli3 - 10-22-2008 21:00
Hi Ron,
If it is the one coming out of the bottom of your water pump- it is
the same one that failed on me. The guts can be replaced if you can
find an exact match. Pulling the pump is a real PITA, but worth doing
for front heat. It is much easier if you just cut the old hoses and
get new ones and a new gasket from the local DDA shop.
-Shane
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
>
> Shane: The best I can do is replace the inside of the valve. In
> order to remove the valve, we would have to pull the water pump. The
> valve is too close to the frame to get any tools in there, other than
> to remove the guts. I would not have this problem if they had not
> closed the valve while working on it. The valve was open when it
> arrived there. It might turn out to be something else we haven't
> discovered yet.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "sfedeli3" <sfedeli3@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ron,
> >
> > More than likely, you have a "dropped" gate. The insides of the
> > valves strip out or corrode and the gate fuses to the bottom of the
> > valve. When you try to open the valve, the wheel turns, but does not
> > lift the gate. Happened to me 2 years ago. Replaced with a ball
valve.
> >
> > Shane Fedeli
> > 85Pt40
> > Hershey, PA
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
> >
> > >
> > > Hi all:
> > >
> > > I picked up my coach in Calgary on Monday, departed for home on
> > > Tuesday. Engine is running good. Have not used much oil in the
first
> > > 400 miles. I stopped in Lewistown, MT to spend a couple nights
with a
> > > friend who has an S.O.B. It got down to 24 degrees last night, but
> > > today is a little warmer and no moisture in the area.
> > >
> > > Everything is fine except I don't have dash heat and I ran
into a
> > > snow squall that almost had me blinded on the windshield.
Fortunately
> > > it let up before I had to stop. I'm going to put an electric heater
> > > up on the dash to run if I get into something like that again. I
> > > think the gate valve is broken, but the shop says they can
replace the
> > > guts without loosing the coolant. I'll look into that when I get
> home.
> > >
> > > We thought maybe there was an air lock, but when we opened the
> > > bleed screw on the heater supply line, there was no pressure. The
> > > solenoid may not be opening, even though I can hear the clicking
> > > sound. Don't have enough time before I leave here to continue the
> > > troubleshooting. My infra-red thermometer read 135 degrees on the
> > > pump side of the valve and 67 degrees on the return side from the
> > heater.
> > >
> > > If any of you have any thoughts on this, let me know. Thanks.
> > >
> > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> > > Currently in Lewistown, MT
> > >
> >
>
On way home - ronmarabito2002 - 10-23-2008 00:52
Thanks Shane. If it comes to that, I'll have a shop do it. Got too
much to deal with when I get home.
R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "sfedeli3" <sfedeli3@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ron,
>
> If it is the one coming out of the bottom of your water pump- it is
> the same one that failed on me. The guts can be replaced if you can
> find an exact match. Pulling the pump is a real PITA, but worth doing
> for front heat. It is much easier if you just cut the old hoses and
> get new ones and a new gasket from the local DDA shop.
>
> -Shane
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
>
> >
> > Shane: The best I can do is replace the inside of the valve. In
> > order to remove the valve, we would have to pull the water pump. The
> > valve is too close to the frame to get any tools in there, other than
> > to remove the guts. I would not have this problem if they had not
> > closed the valve while working on it. The valve was open when it
> > arrived there. It might turn out to be something else we haven't
> > discovered yet.
> >
> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "sfedeli3" <sfedeli3@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Ron,
> > >
> > > More than likely, you have a "dropped" gate. The insides of the
> > > valves strip out or corrode and the gate fuses to the bottom of the
> > > valve. When you try to open the valve, the wheel turns, but does not
> > > lift the gate. Happened to me 2 years ago. Replaced with a ball
> valve.
> > >
> > > Shane Fedeli
> > > 85Pt40
> > > Hershey, PA
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all:
> > > >
> > > > I picked up my coach in Calgary on Monday, departed for
home on
> > > > Tuesday. Engine is running good. Have not used much oil in the
> first
> > > > 400 miles. I stopped in Lewistown, MT to spend a couple nights
> with a
> > > > friend who has an S.O.B. It got down to 24 degrees last
night, but
> > > > today is a little warmer and no moisture in the area.
> > > >
> > > > Everything is fine except I don't have dash heat and I ran
> into a
> > > > snow squall that almost had me blinded on the windshield.
> Fortunately
> > > > it let up before I had to stop. I'm going to put an electric
heater
> > > > up on the dash to run if I get into something like that again. I
> > > > think the gate valve is broken, but the shop says they can
> replace the
> > > > guts without loosing the coolant. I'll look into that when I get
> > home.
> > > >
> > > > We thought maybe there was an air lock, but when we opened the
> > > > bleed screw on the heater supply line, there was no pressure. The
> > > > solenoid may not be opening, even though I can hear the clicking
> > > > sound. Don't have enough time before I leave here to continue the
> > > > troubleshooting. My infra-red thermometer read 135 degrees on the
> > > > pump side of the valve and 67 degrees on the return side from the
> > > heater.
> > > >
> > > > If any of you have any thoughts on this, let me know. Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> > > > Currently in Lewistown, MT
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
On way home - Don Bradner - 10-23-2008 01:03
On mine there are 4 valves. The upper two were "relatively" easy to remove, so I
replaced them with ball valves. Those upper ones were still functional. The one
below the water pump had dropped the gate, and since it was the same as the
upper two I did fix it by using the guts from one of them. The fourth one would
also be very difficult to replace, and is a different body, but fortunately is
still working.
Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Posting today by satellite from Hilton Head, South Carolina
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On 10/23/2008 at 9:00 AM sfedeli3 wrote:
>Hi Ron,
>
> If it is the one coming out of the bottom of your water pump- it is
>the same one that failed on me. The guts can be replaced if you can
>find an exact match. Pulling the pump is a real PITA, but worth doing
>for front heat. It is much easier if you just cut the old hoses and
>get new ones and a new gasket from the local DDA shop.
>
>-Shane
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
>
>>
>> Shane: The best I can do is replace the inside of the valve. In
>> order to remove the valve, we would have to pull the water pump. The
>> valve is too close to the frame to get any tools in there, other than
>> to remove the guts. I would not have this problem if they had not
>> closed the valve while working on it. The valve was open when it
>> arrived there. It might turn out to be something else we haven't
>> discovered yet.
>>
>> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "sfedeli3" <sfedeli3@> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Ron,
>> >
>> > More than likely, you have a "dropped" gate. The insides of the
>> > valves strip out or corrode and the gate fuses to the bottom of the
>> > valve. When you try to open the valve, the wheel turns, but does not
>> > lift the gate. Happened to me 2 years ago. Replaced with a ball
>valve.
>> >
>> > Shane Fedeli
>> > 85Pt40
>> > Hershey, PA
>> >
>> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Hi all:
>> > >
>> > > I picked up my coach in Calgary on Monday, departed for home on
>> > > Tuesday. Engine is running good. Have not used much oil in the
>first
>> > > 400 miles. I stopped in Lewistown, MT to spend a couple nights
>with a
>> > > friend who has an S.O.B. It got down to 24 degrees last night, but
>> > > today is a little warmer and no moisture in the area.
>> > >
>> > > Everything is fine except I don't have dash heat and I ran
>into a
>> > > snow squall that almost had me blinded on the windshield.
>Fortunately
>> > > it let up before I had to stop. I'm going to put an electric heater
>> > > up on the dash to run if I get into something like that again. I
>> > > think the gate valve is broken, but the shop says they can
>replace the
>> > > guts without loosing the coolant. I'll look into that when I get
>> home.
>> > >
>> > > We thought maybe there was an air lock, but when we opened the
>> > > bleed screw on the heater supply line, there was no pressure. The
>> > > solenoid may not be opening, even though I can hear the clicking
>> > > sound. Don't have enough time before I leave here to continue the
>> > > troubleshooting. My infra-red thermometer read 135 degrees on the
>> > > pump side of the valve and 67 degrees on the return side from the
>> > heater.
>> > >
>> > > If any of you have any thoughts on this, let me know. Thanks.
>> > >
>> > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
>> > > Currently in Lewistown, MT
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
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On way home - lcondosta - 10-23-2008 11:15
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "sfedeli3" <sfedeli3@...>
wrote :Ron had the same problem with my 85 PT 40 .Replaced the
front sporon valve. No heat. Found the dash switch bad.Great heat now
> Lee Condosta 85PT 40 @the K.O.A Wilmington N.C
> Hi Ron,>
> More than likely, you have a "dropped" gate. The insides of the
> valves strip out or corrode and the gate fuses to the bottom of the
> valve. When you try to open the valve, the wheel turns, but does not
> lift the gate. Happened to me 2 years ago. Replaced with a ball
valve.
>
> Shane Fedeli
> 85Pt40
> Hershey, PA
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
>
> >
> > Hi all:
> >
> > I picked up my coach in Calgary on Monday, departed for home
on
> > Tuesday. Engine is running good. Have not used much oil in the
first
> > 400 miles. I stopped in Lewistown, MT to spend a couple nights
with a
> > friend who has an S.O.B. It got down to 24 degrees last night,
but
> > today is a little warmer and no moisture in the area.
> >
> > Everything is fine except I don't have dash heat and I ran
into a
> > snow squall that almost had me blinded on the windshield.
Fortunately
> > it let up before I had to stop. I'm going to put an electric
heater
> > up on the dash to run if I get into something like that again. I
> > think the gate valve is broken, but the shop says they can
replace the
> > guts without loosing the coolant. I'll look into that when I get
home.
> >
> > We thought maybe there was an air lock, but when we opened the
> > bleed screw on the heater supply line, there was no pressure. The
> > solenoid may not be opening, even though I can hear the clicking
> > sound. Don't have enough time before I leave here to continue the
> > troubleshooting. My infra-red thermometer read 135 degrees on the
> > pump side of the valve and 67 degrees on the return side from the
> heater.
> >
> > If any of you have any thoughts on this, let me know. Thanks.
> >
> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> > Currently in Lewistown, MT
> >
>
On way home - Ryan Wright - 10-23-2008 14:57
Holy cats! Is that typical?! At that price, sensors and goodies and
really any sort of add-ons you can buy to help prevent something like
this are well worth the investment. Ouch, ouch, ouch... Sure hope that
comes with a heck of a warranty.
-Ryan
'86 PT-40 8V92 (scared to drive it at all now; going to pray every
time I turn the key from now on...)
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:51 PM, ronmarabito2002
> Greg: In Canada, it cost $27,500 or $23,000 U.S. Not very pretty,
> but they have you over a barrel.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
On way home - Joyce and Richard Hayden - 10-23-2008 15:15
Warranty? Ron's in TX and the warrantee in in Calgary,BC. Really valuable huh?
Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
----- Original Message -----From: "ryanpwright@gmail.com"To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 7:57 PMSubject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: On way home
Holy cats! Is that typical?! At that price, sensors and goodies and
really any sort of add-ons you can buy to help prevent something like
this are well worth the investment. Ouch, ouch, ouch... Sure hope that
comes with a heck of a warranty.
-Ryan
'86 PT-40 8V92 (scared to drive it at all now; going to pray every
time I turn the key from now on...)
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:51 PM, ronmarabito2002 <"remarabito%40att.net"> wrote:
> Greg: In Canada, it cost $27,500 or $23,000 U.S. Not very pretty,
> but they have you over a barrel.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
On way home - erniecarpet@... - 10-23-2008 19:54
Ron is currently in Casper, Wyoming. Everything is running great.
Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Weatherford, Texas
83PT40
Weatherford, Texas
On way home - susanmarycamilleri - 10-24-2008 04:19
Calgary is in Alberta.
Peter Haggins
FC 35' 78
"Prairie Dog"
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Joyce and Richard Hayden"
>
> Warranty? Ron's in TX and the warrantee in in Calgary,BC. Really
valuable huh?
>
> Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ryan Wright
> To:
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 7:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: On way home
>
>
> Holy cats! Is that typical?! At that price, sensors and goodies
and
> really any sort of add-ons you can buy to help prevent something
like
> this are well worth the investment. Ouch, ouch, ouch... Sure hope
that
> comes with a heck of a warranty.
>
> -Ryan
> '86 PT-40 8V92 (scared to drive it at all now; going to pray every
> time I turn the key from now on...)
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:51 PM, ronmarabito2002
> > Greg: In Canada, it cost $27,500 or $23,000 U.S. Not very
pretty,
> > but they have you over a barrel.
> >
> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
>
On way home - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 10-24-2008 05:52
Calgary is not in BC, it is on the flat lands of Alberta LOL
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On way home - Ryan Wright - 10-24-2008 06:54
If your new engine died, would you spend another $23,000 to replace it
again or $5,000 shipping the coach back to Calgary? :-) (I don't have
a degree in economics, but I know what I'd do... ;-) )
-Ryan
'86 PT-40 8V92
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Joyce and Richard Hayden
> Warranty? Ron's in TX and the warrantee in in Calgary,BC. Really valuable
> huh?