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PT hydraulic reservoir - DAY8293A@... - 06-13-2005 13:05
GEE,,, I THOUGHT I MENTIONED ADDING ATF TO MY ENGINES AT OIL CHANGE
TIME TOO, TO FLUSH OUT THE ENGINE,,, DAY,,,,
In a message dated 6/13/2005 10:42:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jdarstpt40@... writes:
> Subj: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: PT hydraulic reservoir
> Date:6/13/2005 10:42:36 PM Eastern Standard Time
> From:jdarstpt40@...
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> I have been building racing automatic transmissions for 20 years.
> They are FULL of rubber seals.
>
> Dextron is made for automatic transmissions. It will not harm
> rubber. It is made to be used with rubber.
>
> I do not know what seal would be harmed by ATF, that the detergent
> motor oil wouldn't...
>
> Don't fret it, just empty the tank, fill it with 10w30 and in 5
> years when you change it again, use 10w30.
>
> Have you ever heard of adding a pint of trans fluid to an old Chevy
> engine at oil change time? Stops hydraulic lifter noise...
>
> Is there a petroleum engineer in the house?
>
> Later
> Jay Darst
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> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
> wrote:
> >Dextron and 30 weight oil are very different. Dextron can damage
> rubber
> >seals that are not made for that purpose.
> >
> >tom
> >1982 FC35
> >Vernon Center,NY
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> >At 05:24 PM 6/13/2005 -0400, you wrote:
> >>Hi Bill- I guess I should have been a little more specific. On
> PTs there is a
> >>separate canister for the hydraulics- which is to control the fan
> motor and
> >>power steering. It seems that the couple I was mentioning had a
> mechanic put
> >>the Dextron in that canister where it should have been 30 weight
> oil. My
> >>question- will it hurt that particular hydraulic application?
> >>I would think that the Dextron would be a lot lighter weight oil
> and it may
> >>not adversley affect that pump. Just in my opinion- which I can
> be dead
> >>wrong.
> >>Ernie- 83PT40- in Texas- Dextron in the jacks, 30 weight in the
> power steering
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PT hydraulic reservoir - Tom Warner - 06-13-2005 13:45
Dextron and 30 weight oil are very different. Dextron can damage rubber
seals that are not made for that purpose.
tom
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY
At 05:24 PM 6/13/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi Bill- I guess I should have been a little more specific. On PTs there is a
>separate canister for the hydraulics- which is to control the fan motor and
>power steering. It seems that the couple I was mentioning had a mechanic put
>the Dextron in that canister where it should have been 30 weight oil. My
>question- will it hurt that particular hydraulic application?
>I would think that the Dextron would be a lot lighter weight oil and it may
>not adversley affect that pump. Just in my opinion- which I can be dead
>wrong.
>Ernie- 83PT40- in Texas- Dextron in the jacks, 30 weight in the power steering
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PT hydraulic reservoir - Jay Darst - 06-13-2005 14:42
I have been building racing automatic transmissions for 20 years.
They are FULL of rubber seals.
Dextron is made for automatic transmissions. It will not harm
rubber. It is made to be used with rubber.
I do not know what seal would be harmed by ATF, that the detergent
motor oil wouldn't...
Don't fret it, just empty the tank, fill it with 10w30 and in 5
years when you change it again, use 10w30.
Have you ever heard of adding a pint of trans fluid to an old Chevy
engine at oil change time? Stops hydraulic lifter noise...
Is there a petroleum engineer in the house?
Later
Jay Darst
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
wrote:
> Dextron and 30 weight oil are very different. Dextron can damage
rubber
> seals that are not made for that purpose.
>
> tom
> 1982 FC35
> Vernon Center,NY
>
> At 05:24 PM 6/13/2005 -0400, you wrote:
> >Hi Bill- I guess I should have been a little more specific. On
PTs there is a
> >separate canister for the hydraulics- which is to control the fan
motor and
> >power steering. It seems that the couple I was mentioning had a
mechanic put
> >the Dextron in that canister where it should have been 30 weight
oil. My
> >question- will it hurt that particular hydraulic application?
> >I would think that the Dextron would be a lot lighter weight oil
and it may
> >not adversley affect that pump. Just in my opinion- which I can
be dead
> >wrong.
> >Ernie- 83PT40- in Texas- Dextron in the jacks, 30 weight in the
power steering
> >
> >
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PT hydraulic reservoir - Tom Warner - 06-13-2005 15:19
Jay believe it or not there are seals that are harmed by motoroil. And
there are seals that are harmed by ATF. Jay there are many different kinds
of rubber seals.
I am sure you know that you cannot use Dextron in a Mopar product. I am
not saying it cant be done but I sure would not do it unless I was sure I
knew what kind of seals are in the pump before I put ATF fluid in.
Manufacturers give directions on what to use in their various products and
its best unless you are an expert on the subject (which I am not by a
country mile) to follow their directions.
This might shed some light on what I am saying.
http://tinyurl.com/9b5ya
Tom
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY
At 02:42 AM 6/14/2005 +0000, you wrote:
>I have been building racing automatic transmissions for 20 years.
>They are FULL of rubber seals.
>
>Dextron is made for automatic transmissions. It will not harm
>rubber. It is made to be used with rubber.
>
>I do not know what seal would be harmed by ATF, that the detergent
>motor oil wouldn't...
>
>Don't fret it, just empty the tank, fill it with 10w30 and in 5
>years when you change it again, use 10w30.
>
>Have you ever heard of adding a pint of trans fluid to an old Chevy
>engine at oil change time? Stops hydraulic lifter noise...
>
>Is there a petroleum engineer in the house?
>
>Later
>Jay Darst
>
>
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
>wrote:
> > Dextron and 30 weight oil are very different. Dextron can damage
>rubber
> > seals that are not made for that purpose.
> >
> > tom
> > 1982 FC35
> > Vernon Center,NY
> >
> > At 05:24 PM 6/13/2005 -0400, you wrote:
> > >Hi Bill- I guess I should have been a little more specific. On
>PTs there is a
> > >separate canister for the hydraulics- which is to control the fan
>motor and
> > >power steering. It seems that the couple I was mentioning had a
>mechanic put
> > >the Dextron in that canister where it should have been 30 weight
>oil. My
> > >question- will it hurt that particular hydraulic application?
> > >I would think that the Dextron would be a lot lighter weight oil
>and it may
> > >not adversley affect that pump. Just in my opinion- which I can
>be dead
> > >wrong.
> > >Ernie- 83PT40- in Texas- Dextron in the jacks, 30 weight in the
>power steering
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PT hydraulic reservoir - awesome_bird - 06-14-2005 12:19
It is our `83 PT35 that had ATF in the hydraulic reservoir. We took
it to Interstate Truck Service in Irving TX. They've taken good care
of us - hookups in the parking lot for two nights of free camping.
And now, that ATF is out of the hydraulic reservoir. We had them
drain, re-fill with 30 wt oil, then do it again. In the process they
spotted a leak in the hydraulic cooler - they put in a new cooler
unit. They showed us the `dead' one. Yucchh, the cracks were
visible, we could see how it was leaking.
So we're on the road again. Thanks to everyone for help with this
issue, especially Ernie for posting our problem.
Jim & Pen
`83 PT35 6V92 with the right kind of oil in all the right places