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cruise control - putneyflash@...> - 12-11-2006 13:47 Anyone have any idea when a 1983 fc-35 should bump into the next gear on level ground. Since it appears my transmission conrtol was diconnected I will try to figure out when to make it shift from 1 to 2, 2 to3 and 3 to 4 Thanks for all the information. I wish mine had Air cruise and throttle,but I have to work with what I have re brae 1983 FC _35 SB > > From: Doug Engel > Date: 2006/12/11 Mon AM 10:15:55 EST > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > Doesn't seem like it should, but it did on Pokey. When it was too long, it virtually skipped straight into 3&4 lockup, really lugged him down. Doug n' Pokey > > Jeff Miller cable will affect the shift points, I > don't believe it will change the torque-converter lockup point. > > - Jeff Miller > in Holland, MI > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Doug Engel > wrote: > > > > In theroy, if we are talking about the same thing, the longer it > is, the faster the torque converter will go into lockup and the > later you will get a downshift. The shorter you make it, the reverse > should be true. I have mine shortened up somewhat to hold gears a > little longer due to our mountianous terrain (read: lots of big > hills that makes Pokey go real slow). Let me know how it works out. > Doug n' Pokey > > > > putneyflash@... wrote: I think you are right, I haveit > all attached now and I can see if theres any change in the shift. > > > > re brake 1983 fc-35 sb > > > > > > From: Doug Engel > > > Date: 2006/12/09 Sat PM 04:54:32 EST > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > > > > > On our '81 FC, the ball chain is attatched to throttle linkage > right above the throttle cable. If we are talking about the same > part, the slide arm is part of the transmission kick down/shift > point system. If it has never been attatched, I can't see how your > tranny could have been shifting correctly, so maye this is something > else. > > > > > > Dan Darst > > > > > > dandarst86fc35rbhuntleyil. > > > > > > >From: "davidkerryedwards" > > > >Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > >To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > > >Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 20:14:41 -0000 > > > > > > > >No way to test it without driving it to my knowledge. I know > the slide arm > > > >of which you > > > >speak but I don't know what it is attached to. My coach is in > storage. > > > >Which vacuum control > > > >did you replace? > > > > > > > >Kerry > > > >82 Fc 35 > > > >Denver > > > > > > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "putneyflash" > > > > > > > > > > > I am working on the cruise control, i have installed a new > vacuum > > > > > control. When looking at the cruise control i have a round > disc > > > > > attached to a chain which is connected to the cruise control > which i > > > > > believe attaches to the throttle lever..their is also a > metal slide > > > > > which is connected to a rod which also connects to the > throttle lever. > > > > > Does anyone know what it does? it has been disconnected. Is > their any > > > > > way to test the cruise control setting still? > > > > > > > > > > re brake 1983 FC-35 SB "sagecoach" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/? > href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers > from real people who know. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > > > --------------------------------- > > Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful > email and get things done faster. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > --------------------------------- > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > cruise control - Gardner Yeaw - 12-11-2006 14:11 My 78FC33 upshifts around 22-2300 with the pedal to the metal. It downshifts around 17-1800 while climbing under full throttle except for 4th to 3rd, which happens around 12 to 1300. I always manually downshift from 4th to 3rd during a climb because I think it is better to keep the rpm's near 2000 and I don't want to lug the engine. My FC had the gears changed from 5:something to 4:88 so my shift points may not be standard. Gardner 78FC33 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, > > Anyone have any idea when a 1983 fc-35 should bump into the next gear on level ground. Since it appears my transmission conrtol was diconnected I will try to figure out when to make it shift from 1 to 2, 2 to3 and 3 to 4 > > Thanks for all the information. I wish mine had Air cruise and throttle,but I have to work with what I have > > re brae 1983 FC _35 SB > > > > From: Doug Engel > > Date: 2006/12/11 Mon AM 10:15:55 EST > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > > > Doesn't seem like it should, but it did on Pokey. When it was too long, it virtually skipped straight into 3&4 lockup, really lugged him down. Doug n' Pokey > > > > Jeff Miller Bowden cable will affect the shift points, I > > don't believe it will change the torque-converter lockup point. > > > > - Jeff Miller > > in Holland, MI > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Doug Engel > > wrote: > > > > > > In theroy, if we are talking about the same thing, the longer it > > is, the faster the torque converter will go into lockup and the > > later you will get a downshift. The shorter you make it, the reverse > > should be true. I have mine shortened up somewhat to hold gears a > > little longer due to our mountianous terrain (read: lots of big > > hills that makes Pokey go real slow). Let me know how it works out. > > Doug n' Pokey > > > > > > putneyflash@ wrote: I think you are right, I haveit > > all attached now and I can see if theres any change in the shift. > > > > > > re brake 1983 fc-35 sb > > > > > > > > From: Doug Engel > > > > Date: 2006/12/09 Sat PM 04:54:32 EST > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > > > > > > > On our '81 FC, the ball chain is attatched to throttle linkage > > right above the throttle cable. If we are talking about the same > > part, the slide arm is part of the transmission kick down/shift > > point system. If it has never been attatched, I can't see how your > > tranny could have been shifting correctly, so maye this is something > > else. > > > > > > > > Dan Darst > > > > > > > > dandarst86fc35rbhuntleyil. > > > > > > > > >From: "davidkerryedwards" > > > > >Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > >To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > > > >Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 20:14:41 -0000 > > > > > > > > > >No way to test it without driving it to my knowledge. I know > > the slide arm > > > > >of which you > > > > >speak but I don't know what it is attached to. My coach is in > > storage. > > > > >Which vacuum control > > > > >did you replace? > > > > > > > > > >Kerry > > > > >82 Fc 35 > > > > >Denver > > > > > > > > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "putneyflash" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am working on the cruise control, i have installed a new > > vacuum > > > > > > control. When looking at the cruise control i have a round > > disc > > > > > > attached to a chain which is connected to the cruise control > > which i > > > > > > believe attaches to the throttle lever..their is also a > > metal slide > > > > > > which is connected to a rod which also connects to the > > throttle lever. > > > > > > Does anyone know what it does? it has been disconnected. Is > > their any > > > > > > way to test the cruise control setting still? > > > > > > > > > > > > re brake 1983 FC-35 SB "sagecoach" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. > > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/? > > href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers > > from real people who know. > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful > > email and get things done faster. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > > > --------------------------------- > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > cruise control - Chuck Wheeler - 12-11-2006 14:18 While playing with the cable on our FC I discovered that it affected all except the 1-2 shift which is always at 2650rpm. I ended up setting it up like we used to set up the automobile transmissions before the computer days, about 1/8" slack at full throttle. With that setting it will up shift or lockup at 2650rpm and down shift at 2000. Under real light throttle, other than 1-2, it will up shift about 2200rpm and downshift about 1700rpm. If it is below 2000rpm and you apply more throttle it downshifts immediately. Working fresh transmission into the transmission really seemed to help performance also. - Chuck Wheeler - 82 FC 31 SB Fort Worth, TX _____ From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Engel Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 9:16 AM To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL Doesn't seem like it should, but it did on Pokey. When it was too long, it virtually skipped straight into 3&4 lockup, really lugged him down. Doug n' Pokey Jeff Miller Although the downsift Bowden cable will affect the shift points, I don't believe it will change the torque-converter lockup point. - Jeff Miller in Holland, MI --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups.com, Doug Engel wrote: > > In theroy, if we are talking about the same thing, the longer it is, the faster the torque converter will go into lockup and the later you will get a downshift. The shorter you make it, the reverse should be true. I have mine shortened up somewhat to hold gears a little longer due to our mountianous terrain (read: lots of big hills that makes Pokey go real slow). Let me know how it works out. Doug n' Pokey > > putneyflash@... wrote: I think you are right, I haveit all attached now and I can see if theres any change in the shift. > > re brake 1983 fc-35 sb > > > > From: Doug Engel > > Date: 2006/12/09 Sat PM 04:54:32 EST > > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups.com > > Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > > > On our '81 FC, the ball chain is attatched to throttle linkage right above the throttle cable. If we are talking about the same part, the slide arm is part of the transmission kick down/shift point system. If it has never been attatched, I can't see how your tranny could have been shifting correctly, so maye this is something else. > > > > Dan Darst > > > > dandarst86fc35rbhuntleyil. > > > > >From: "davidkerryedwards" > > >Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups.com > > >To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups.com > > >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > >Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 20:14:41 -0000 > > > > > >No way to test it without driving it to my knowledge. I know the slide arm > > >of which you > > >speak but I don't know what it is attached to. My coach is in storage. > > >Which vacuum control > > >did you replace? > > > > > >Kerry > > >82 Fc 35 > > >Denver > > > > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups.com, "putneyflash" > > > > > > > > I am working on the cruise control, i have installed a new vacuum > > > > control. When looking at the cruise control i have a round disc > > > > attached to a chain which is connected to the cruise control which i > > > > believe attaches to the throttle lever..their is also a metal slide > > > > which is connected to a rod which also connects to the throttle lever. > > > > Does anyone know what it does? it has been disconnected. Is their any > > > > way to test the cruise control setting still? > > > > > > > > re brake 1983 FC-35 SB "sagecoach" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. > > http://clk.atdmt. <http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?> com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/? href=http://get.live. <http://get.live.com/messenger/overview> com/messenger/overview > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > > > --------------------------------- > > Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers from real people who know. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > --------------------------------- > Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] cruise control - Mike Hohnstein - 12-11-2006 15:00 locks in 3rd and stays on for the 3/4 shift. Engine and trans need the cable travel fully extended or compressed at WOT. MH ----- Original Message ----- From: putneyflash@... To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 7:35 PM Subject: Re: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL Does the transmission go intoTt/C lock up in each gear? re brake 1983 FC_35 sb > > From: Doug Engel > Date: 2006/12/11 Mon AM 10:15:55 EST > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > Doesn't seem like it should, but it did on Pokey. When it was too long, it virtually skipped straight into 3&4 lockup, really lugged him down. Doug n' Pokey > > Jeff Miller will affect the shift points, I > don't believe it will change the torque-converter lockup point. > > - Jeff Miller > in Holland, MI > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Doug Engel > wrote: > > > > In theroy, if we are talking about the same thing, the longer it > is, the faster the torque converter will go into lockup and the > later you will get a downshift. The shorter you make it, the reverse > should be true. I have mine shortened up somewhat to hold gears a > little longer due to our mountianous terrain (read: lots of big > hills that makes Pokey go real slow). Let me know how it works out. > Doug n' Pokey > > > > putneyflash@... wrote: I think you are right, I haveit > all attached now and I can see if theres any change in the shift. > > > > re brake 1983 fc-35 sb > > > > > > From: Doug Engel > > > Date: 2006/12/09 Sat PM 04:54:32 EST > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > > > > > On our '81 FC, the ball chain is attatched to throttle linkage > right above the throttle cable. If we are talking about the same > part, the slide arm is part of the transmission kick down/shift > point system. If it has never been attatched, I can't see how your > tranny could have been shifting correctly, so maye this is something > else. > > > > > > Dan Darst > > > > > > dandarst86fc35rbhuntleyil. > > > > > > >From: "davidkerryedwards" > > > >Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > >To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > > >Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 20:14:41 -0000 > > > > > > > >No way to test it without driving it to my knowledge. I know > the slide arm > > > >of which you > > > >speak but I don't know what it is attached to. My coach is in > storage. > > > >Which vacuum control > > > >did you replace? > > > > > > > >Kerry > > > >82 Fc 35 > > > >Denver > > > > > > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "putneyflash" > > > > > > > > > > > I am working on the cruise control, i have installed a new > vacuum > > > > > control. When looking at the cruise control i have a round > disc > > > > > attached to a chain which is connected to the cruise control > which i > > > > > believe attaches to the throttle lever..their is also a > metal slide > > > > > which is connected to a rod which also connects to the > throttle lever. > > > > > Does anyone know what it does? it has been disconnected. Is > their any > > > > > way to test the cruise control setting still? > > > > > > > > > > re brake 1983 FC-35 SB "sagecoach" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/? > href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers > from real people who know. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > > > --------------------------------- > > Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful > email and get things done faster. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > --------------------------------- > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] cruise control - Mike Hohnstein - 12-11-2006 15:04 The trans cable travel should be fully compressed at WOT. MH ----- Original Message ----- From: putneyflash@... To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: Re: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL Anyone have any idea when a 1983 fc-35 should bump into the next gear on level ground. Since it appears my transmission conrtol was diconnected I will try to figure out when to make it shift from 1 to 2, 2 to3 and 3 to 4 Thanks for all the information. I wish mine had Air cruise and throttle,but I have to work with what I have re brae 1983 FC _35 SB > > From: Doug Engel > Date: 2006/12/11 Mon AM 10:15:55 EST > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > Doesn't seem like it should, but it did on Pokey. When it was too long, it virtually skipped straight into 3&4 lockup, really lugged him down. Doug n' Pokey > > Jeff Miller will affect the shift points, I > don't believe it will change the torque-converter lockup point. > > - Jeff Miller > in Holland, MI > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Doug Engel > wrote: > > > > In theroy, if we are talking about the same thing, the longer it > is, the faster the torque converter will go into lockup and the > later you will get a downshift. The shorter you make it, the reverse > should be true. I have mine shortened up somewhat to hold gears a > little longer due to our mountianous terrain (read: lots of big > hills that makes Pokey go real slow). Let me know how it works out. > Doug n' Pokey > > > > putneyflash@... wrote: I think you are right, I haveit > all attached now and I can see if theres any change in the shift. > > > > re brake 1983 fc-35 sb > > > > > > From: Doug Engel > > > Date: 2006/12/09 Sat PM 04:54:32 EST > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > > > > > On our '81 FC, the ball chain is attatched to throttle linkage > right above the throttle cable. If we are talking about the same > part, the slide arm is part of the transmission kick down/shift > point system. If it has never been attatched, I can't see how your > tranny could have been shifting correctly, so maye this is something > else. > > > > > > Dan Darst > > > > > > dandarst86fc35rbhuntleyil. > > > > > > >From: "davidkerryedwards" > > > >Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > >To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > > >Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 20:14:41 -0000 > > > > > > > >No way to test it without driving it to my knowledge. I know > the slide arm > > > >of which you > > > >speak but I don't know what it is attached to. My coach is in > storage. > > > >Which vacuum control > > > >did you replace? > > > > > > > >Kerry > > > >82 Fc 35 > > > >Denver > > > > > > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "putneyflash" > > > > > > > > > > > I am working on the cruise control, i have installed a new > vacuum > > > > > control. When looking at the cruise control i have a round > disc > > > > > attached to a chain which is connected to the cruise control > which i > > > > > believe attaches to the throttle lever..their is also a > metal slide > > > > > which is connected to a rod which also connects to the > throttle lever. > > > > > Does anyone know what it does? it has been disconnected. Is > their any > > > > > way to test the cruise control setting still? > > > > > > > > > > re brake 1983 FC-35 SB "sagecoach" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/? > href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers > from real people who know. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > > > --------------------------------- > > Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful > email and get things done faster. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > --------------------------------- > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] cruise control - Mike Hohnstein - 12-11-2006 15:07 Yer doin' well. MH ----- Original Message ----- From: Gardner Yeaw To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 8:11 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL My 78FC33 upshifts around 22-2300 with the pedal to the metal. It downshifts around 17-1800 while climbing under full throttle except for 4th to 3rd, which happens around 12 to 1300. I always manually downshift from 4th to 3rd during a climb because I think it is better to keep the rpm's near 2000 and I don't want to lug the engine. My FC had the gears changed from 5:something to 4:88 so my shift points may not be standard. Gardner 78FC33 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, > > Anyone have any idea when a 1983 fc-35 should bump into the next gear on level ground. Since it appears my transmission conrtol was diconnected I will try to figure out when to make it shift from 1 to 2, 2 to3 and 3 to 4 > > Thanks for all the information. I wish mine had Air cruise and throttle,but I have to work with what I have > > re brae 1983 FC _35 SB > > > > From: Doug Engel > > Date: 2006/12/11 Mon AM 10:15:55 EST > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > > > Doesn't seem like it should, but it did on Pokey. When it was too long, it virtually skipped straight into 3&4 lockup, really lugged him down. Doug n' Pokey > > > > Jeff Miller Bowden cable will affect the shift points, I > > don't believe it will change the torque-converter lockup point. > > > > - Jeff Miller > > in Holland, MI > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Doug Engel > > wrote: > > > > > > In theroy, if we are talking about the same thing, the longer it > > is, the faster the torque converter will go into lockup and the > > later you will get a downshift. The shorter you make it, the reverse > > should be true. I have mine shortened up somewhat to hold gears a > > little longer due to our mountianous terrain (read: lots of big > > hills that makes Pokey go real slow). Let me know how it works out. > > Doug n' Pokey > > > > > > putneyflash@ wrote: I think you are right, I haveit > > all attached now and I can see if theres any change in the shift. > > > > > > re brake 1983 fc-35 sb > > > > > > > > From: Doug Engel > > > > Date: 2006/12/09 Sat PM 04:54:32 EST > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > > > > > > > On our '81 FC, the ball chain is attatched to throttle linkage > > right above the throttle cable. If we are talking about the same > > part, the slide arm is part of the transmission kick down/shift > > point system. If it has never been attatched, I can't see how your > > tranny could have been shifting correctly, so maye this is something > > else. > > > > > > > > Dan Darst > > > > > > > > dandarst86fc35rbhuntleyil. > > > > > > > > >From: "davidkerryedwards" > > > > >Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > >To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > > > >Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 20:14:41 -0000 > > > > > > > > > >No way to test it without driving it to my knowledge. I know > > the slide arm > > > > >of which you > > > > >speak but I don't know what it is attached to. My coach is in > > storage. > > > > >Which vacuum control > > > > >did you replace? > > > > > > > > > >Kerry > > > > >82 Fc 35 > > > > >Denver > > > > > > > > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "putneyflash" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am working on the cruise control, i have installed a new > > vacuum > > > > > > control. When looking at the cruise control i have a round > > disc > > > > > > attached to a chain which is connected to the cruise control > > which i > > > > > > believe attaches to the throttle lever..their is also a > > metal slide > > > > > > which is connected to a rod which also connects to the > > throttle lever. > > > > > > Does anyone know what it does? it has been disconnected. Is > > their any > > > > > > way to test the cruise control setting still? > > > > > > > > > > > > re brake 1983 FC-35 SB "sagecoach" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. > > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/? > > href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers > > from real people who know. > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful > > email and get things done faster. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > > > --------------------------------- > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] cruise control - Mike Hohnstein - 12-11-2006 15:10 your numbers are appropriate for a NA, turbos operate at less RPM. MH ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck Wheeler To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 8:18 PM Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL While playing with the cable on our FC I discovered that it affected all except the 1-2 shift which is always at 2650rpm. I ended up setting it up like we used to set up the automobile transmissions before the computer days, about 1/8" slack at full throttle. With that setting it will up shift or lockup at 2650rpm and down shift at 2000. Under real light throttle, other than 1-2, it will up shift about 2200rpm and downshift about 1700rpm. If it is below 2000rpm and you apply more throttle it downshifts immediately. Working fresh transmission into the transmission really seemed to help performance also. - Chuck Wheeler - 82 FC 31 SB Fort Worth, TX _____ From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Engel Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 9:16 AM To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL Doesn't seem like it should, but it did on Pokey. When it was too long, it virtually skipped straight into 3&4 lockup, really lugged him down. Doug n' Pokey Jeff Miller Although the downsift Bowden cable will affect the shift points, I don't believe it will change the torque-converter lockup point. - Jeff Miller in Holland, MI --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups.com, Doug Engel wrote: > > In theroy, if we are talking about the same thing, the longer it is, the faster the torque converter will go into lockup and the later you will get a downshift. The shorter you make it, the reverse should be true. I have mine shortened up somewhat to hold gears a little longer due to our mountianous terrain (read: lots of big hills that makes Pokey go real slow). Let me know how it works out. Doug n' Pokey > > putneyflash@... wrote: I think you are right, I haveit all attached now and I can see if theres any change in the shift. > > re brake 1983 fc-35 sb > > > > From: Doug Engel > > Date: 2006/12/09 Sat PM 04:54:32 EST > > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups.com > > Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > > > On our '81 FC, the ball chain is attatched to throttle linkage right above the throttle cable. If we are talking about the same part, the slide arm is part of the transmission kick down/shift point system. If it has never been attatched, I can't see how your tranny could have been shifting correctly, so maye this is something else. > > > > Dan Darst > > > > dandarst86fc35rbhuntleyil. > > > > >From: "davidkerryedwards" > > >Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups.com > > >To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups.com > > >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > >Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 20:14:41 -0000 > > > > > >No way to test it without driving it to my knowledge. I know the slide arm > > >of which you > > >speak but I don't know what it is attached to. My coach is in storage. > > >Which vacuum control > > >did you replace? > > > > > >Kerry > > >82 Fc 35 > > >Denver > > > > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups.com, "putneyflash" > > > > > > > > I am working on the cruise control, i have installed a new vacuum > > > > control. When looking at the cruise control i have a round disc > > > > attached to a chain which is connected to the cruise control which i > > > > believe attaches to the throttle lever..their is also a metal slide > > > > which is connected to a rod which also connects to the throttle lever. > > > > Does anyone know what it does? it has been disconnected. Is their any > > > > way to test the cruise control setting still? > > > > > > > > re brake 1983 FC-35 SB "sagecoach" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. > > http://clk.atdmt. <http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?> com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/? href=http://get.live. <http://get.live.com/messenger/overview> com/messenger/overview > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > > > --------------------------------- > > Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers from real people who know. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > --------------------------------- > Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] cruise control - davidkerryedwards - 12-11-2006 15:14 I believe the sequence is 1, 2, lockup, 3 and 4. Kerry 82 FC 35 Denver --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, > > Does the transmission go intoTt/C lock up in each gear? > > re brake 1983 FC_35 sb cruise control - davidkerryedwards - 12-11-2006 15:17 The 3208 manual says the engine starts lugging at 1900rpms and not to run it in this condition for more than a short period of time. I can't recall the upshift points on mine but I think it is around 2400-2500. Kerry 82 Fc 35 Denver- -- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw" > > My 78FC33 upshifts around 22-2300 with the pedal to the metal. It > downshifts around 17-1800 while climbing under full throttle except > for 4th to 3rd, which happens around 12 to 1300. I always manually > downshift from 4th to 3rd during a climb because I think it is > better to keep the rpm's near 2000 and I don't want to lug the > engine. My FC had the gears changed from 5:something to 4:88 so my > shift points may not be standard. > > Gardner > 78FC33 > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, > > > > Anyone have any idea when a 1983 fc-35 should bump into the next > gear on level ground. Since it appears my transmission conrtol was > diconnected I will try to figure out when to make it shift from 1 to > 2, 2 to3 and 3 to 4 > > > > Thanks for all the information. I wish mine had Air cruise and > throttle,but I have to work with what I have > > > > re brae 1983 FC _35 SB > > > > > > From: Doug Engel > > > Date: 2006/12/11 Mon AM 10:15:55 EST > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > > > > > Doesn't seem like it should, but it did on Pokey. When it was > too long, it virtually skipped straight into 3&4 lockup, really > lugged him down. Doug n' Pokey > > > > > > Jeff Miller > Bowden cable will affect the shift points, I > > > don't believe it will change the torque-converter lockup point. > > > > > > - Jeff Miller > > > in Holland, MI > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Doug Engel > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > In theroy, if we are talking about the same thing, the longer > it > > > is, the faster the torque converter will go into lockup and the > > > later you will get a downshift. The shorter you make it, the > reverse > > > should be true. I have mine shortened up somewhat to hold gears > a > > > little longer due to our mountianous terrain (read: lots of big > > > hills that makes Pokey go real slow). Let me know how it works > out. > > > Doug n' Pokey > > > > > > > > putneyflash@ wrote: I think you are right, I haveit > > > all attached now and I can see if theres any change in the shift. > > > > > > > > re brake 1983 fc-35 sb > > > > > > > > > > From: Doug Engel > > > > > Date: 2006/12/09 Sat PM 04:54:32 EST > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > > > > > > > > > On our '81 FC, the ball chain is attatched to throttle > linkage > > > right above the throttle cable. If we are talking about the same > > > part, the slide arm is part of the transmission kick down/shift > > > point system. If it has never been attatched, I can't see how > your > > > tranny could have been shifting correctly, so maye this is > something > > > else. > > > > > > > > > > Dan Darst > > > > > > > > > > dandarst86fc35rbhuntleyil. > > > > > > > > > > >From: "davidkerryedwards" > > > > > >Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > > >To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > > >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > > > > >Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 20:14:41 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > >No way to test it without driving it to my knowledge. I > know > > > the slide arm > > > > > >of which you > > > > > >speak but I don't know what it is attached to. My coach is > in > > > storage. > > > > > >Which vacuum control > > > > > >did you replace? > > > > > > > > > > > >Kerry > > > > > >82 Fc 35 > > > > > >Denver > > > > > > > > > > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "putneyflash" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am working on the cruise control, i have installed a > new > > > vacuum > > > > > > > control. When looking at the cruise control i have a > round > > > disc > > > > > > > attached to a chain which is connected to the cruise > control > > > which i > > > > > > > believe attaches to the throttle lever..their is also a > > > metal slide > > > > > > > which is connected to a rod which also connects to the > > > throttle lever. > > > > > > > Does anyone know what it does? it has been disconnected. > Is > > > their any > > > > > > > way to test the cruise control setting still? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > re brake 1983 FC-35 SB "sagecoach" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > > Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live > Messenger. > > > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/? > > > href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get > answers > > > from real people who know. > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more > powerful > > > email and get things done faster. > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small > Business. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > cruise control - Doug Engel - 12-11-2006 15:37 Mie does, almost feels like an 8 speed. Doug n' Pokey putneyflash@... wrote: Does the transmission go intoTt/C lock up in each gear? re brake 1983 FC_35 sb > > From: Doug Engel > Date: 2006/12/11 Mon AM 10:15:55 EST > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > Doesn't seem like it should, but it did on Pokey. When it was too long, it virtually skipped straight into 3&4 lockup, really lugged him down. Doug n' Pokey > > Jeff Miller will affect the shift points, I > don't believe it will change the torque-converter lockup point. > > - Jeff Miller > in Holland, MI > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Doug Engel > wrote: > > > > In theroy, if we are talking about the same thing, the longer it > is, the faster the torque converter will go into lockup and the > later you will get a downshift. The shorter you make it, the reverse > should be true. I have mine shortened up somewhat to hold gears a > little longer due to our mountianous terrain (read: lots of big > hills that makes Pokey go real slow). Let me know how it works out. > Doug n' Pokey > > > > putneyflash@... wrote: I think you are right, I haveit > all attached now and I can see if theres any change in the shift. > > > > re brake 1983 fc-35 sb > > > > > > From: Doug Engel > > > Date: 2006/12/09 Sat PM 04:54:32 EST > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > > > > > On our '81 FC, the ball chain is attatched to throttle linkage > right above the throttle cable. If we are talking about the same > part, the slide arm is part of the transmission kick down/shift > point system. If it has never been attatched, I can't see how your > tranny could have been shifting correctly, so maye this is something > else. > > > > > > Dan Darst > > > > > > dandarst86fc35rbhuntleyil. > > > > > > >From: "davidkerryedwards" > > > >Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > >To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: CRUISE CONTROL > > > >Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 20:14:41 -0000 > > > > > > > >No way to test it without driving it to my knowledge. I know > the slide arm > > > >of which you > > > >speak but I don't know what it is attached to. My coach is in > storage. > > > >Which vacuum control > > > >did you replace? > > > > > > > >Kerry > > > >82 Fc 35 > > > >Denver > > > > > > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "putneyflash" > > > > > > > > > > > I am working on the cruise control, i have installed a new > vacuum > > > > > control. When looking at the cruise control i have a round > disc > > > > > attached to a chain which is connected to the cruise control > which i > > > > > believe attaches to the throttle lever..their is also a > metal slide > > > > > which is connected to a rod which also connects to the > throttle lever. > > > > > Does anyone know what it does? it has been disconnected. Is > their any > > > > > way to test the cruise control setting still? > > > > > > > > > > re brake 1983 FC-35 SB "sagecoach" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/? > href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers > from real people who know. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > > > --------------------------------- > > Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful > email and get things done faster. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" > > --------------------------------- > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" --------------------------------- Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |