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1997 Bluebird 43' - p_a_lazar - 07-23-2006 04:21

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> Ernie, Lift not steer. I am sure you know if you turn on the drive or

Greg,

I hate to correct you, but BB *DID* have steerable tag axles for a
year or two. Also, as of the 97 model, the tag is liftable not just
dump and drag.

Paul
97wb43


1997 Bluebird 43' - Gregory OConnor - 07-23-2006 04:54

Paul, liftable and steerable are both good things. I wonder why
steerable is advantagous on such a long wheelbace, are the axles
farther apart on the steerable units?? mostly my comments were made to
pointout dump turn capabilities to others when a need araise, hate to
see some one pay for a tow off a curb.

Gregory O'Connor
94pt
dump and drag, not lift or steer


Greg--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "p_a_lazar"
wrote:
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> wrote:
> >
> > Ernie, Lift not steer. I am sure you know if you turn on the drive
or
>
> Greg,
>
> I hate to correct you, but BB *DID* have steerable tag axles for a
> year or two. Also, as of the 97 model, the tag is liftable not just
> dump and drag.
>
> Paul
> 97wb43
>


1997 Bluebird 43' - Pete Masterson - 07-23-2006 05:03

Jay,

That _is_ a hell of a deal. Just make sure that it is in good
mechanical condition so that it isn't a "project" coach. (Those that
are asking $200K and more seem to be hanging around on Bird
Connection for a very long time...)

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 4203
El Sobrante, CA




On Jul 22, 2006, at 11:24 PM, Jay Darst wrote:

> I have an opportunity to purchase the 1997 for $140k, sounded like a
> hell of a deal...
>
> Thanks everyone, appreciate all the info.
>
> Jay Darst
> 85PT40
> Springfield, IL where I absolutely love this forum! wow!
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Darst"
> wrote:
>>
>> Any pro's or con's to the 1997 43' Wanderlodge?
>>
>> What have these been selling for $$$ ?
>>
>> Have researched asking prices on several www sites...
>>
>> Appreciate all information...
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jay Darst
>> 85PT40
>> Springfield, IL
>>
>
>
>



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1997 Bluebird 43' - Pete Masterson - 07-23-2006 05:13

In general, your state issued driver's license would be honored until/
unless you became a resident of the state. The 65 foot "combined
vehicle" length (RV and toad) does apply.

The California Highway Patrol (and city or county police
organizations) are usually busy with other matters, so your license
and/or vehicle length are only likely to be checked if you were
stopped for some other reason. Keep in mind that California has a 55
MPH speed limit for vehicles pulling a "trailer" -- that would
include a toad.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 4203
El Sobrante, CA




On Jul 23, 2006, at 8:48 AM, Howard O. Truitt wrote:

> Tommy,
> I live in Georgia would I be affected by the length limit or
> license if I visited Ca.
> Howard Truitt
> Camilla, Ga.
> 86 PT40



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1997 Bluebird 43' - erniecarpet@... - 07-23-2006 05:48

I thought that was corrrect, as the tag axle has the wheel in the outward
position as the steer wheels.

Ernie Ekberg
83 PT40
Livingston, Montana



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1997 Bluebird 43' - p_a_lazar - 07-23-2006 06:06

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> Paul, liftable and steerable are both good things. I wonder why
> steerable is advantagous on such a long wheelbace, are the axles
> farther apart on the steerable units?? mostly my comments were made

Think about having a steerable tag axle, allowing you to truely pivot
on your drive axle, next best thing to thrusters on boats..LOL. I have
never owned or driven a steerable tag, but know that a few American
coaches were made this way as some BBs and I believe Newell as well
and it is my understanding that they were a bit problem prone. I hope
someone on this list has one and can educate us all.

Paul
97wb43


1997 Bluebird 43' - Stephen Birtles - 07-23-2006 06:24

center to center wheelbase from drive to tag is the same liftable vs
conventional stops tire scrub \ you just have to remember to dump tag
same as your triaxle dumps with pusher
Stphen



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> Paul, liftable and steerable are both good things. I wonder why
> steerable is advantagous on such a long wheelbace, are the axles
> farther apart on the steerable units?? mostly my comments were made to
> pointout dump turn capabilities to others when a need araise, hate to
> see some one pay for a tow off a curb.
>
> Gregory O'Connor
> 94pt
> dump and drag, not lift or steer
>
>
> Greg--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "p_a_lazar"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Ernie, Lift not steer. I am sure you know if you turn on the drive
> or
> >
> > Greg,
> >
> > I hate to correct you, but BB *DID* have steerable tag axles for a
> > year or two. Also, as of the 97 model, the tag is liftable not just
> > dump and drag.
> >
> > Paul
> > 97wb43
> >
>


1997 Bluebird 43' - Tom McCarthy - 07-23-2006 08:28

Howard,

Pete already gave you the answer that I would give. Your license as a
driver has reciprocity. Your vehicle needs to meet the CA requirements
such as overall length and speed limits.

Tom McCathy
Poway, CA (San Diego at 114 degrees yesterday)


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Howard O. Truitt"
wrote:
>
> Tommy,
> I live in Georgia would I be affected by the length limit or license
if I visited Ca.
> Howard Truitt
> Camilla, Ga.
> 86 PT40
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


1997 Bluebird 43' - Tom Warner - 07-23-2006 12:53

I believe all of the steerable tags were recalled and replaced with
fixed tags. I was at the Birds Nest when the recall was going on.
Turns out the steerable tags were not designed for the BB weight.
There were 4-5 coaches there at the Birds nest and the owners were
not happy. The first couple were replaced without the owners consent.

tom warner
Vernon center,NY
1985 PT 40

At 10:30 AM 7/23/2006, you wrote:

>--- In
>WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
>erniecarpet@... wrote:
> >
> > Paul, when did the '"steerable tag" come into play?
>
>Not sure on that one Ernie, but I believe it was only used for one
>year and had to be on the LX series.
>
>Paul
>97wb43
>
>


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1997 Bluebird 43' - Jeff Miller - 07-23-2006 13:55

'99/'00 and Lxi.

- Jeff Miller
in Holland, MI

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "p_a_lazar"
wrote:
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@ wrote:
> >
> > Paul, when did the '"steerable tag" come into play?
>
> Not sure on that one Ernie, but I believe it was only used for one
> year and had to be on the LX series.
>
> Paul
> 97wb43
>