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Strange Lever - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 08-19-2006 02:59
Well, Scott, you might be onto something there LOL. Guess you will have to try
it out the next time you drive down the road.
If it works, you will certainly notice it.
Bill
84FC35SB
Terrace, B.C.
Scott
Yup, there is a BIG Round thingy that my driveline goes through. How
about the switch above my CB radio, labled "Jake Brake" and the big
yellow light next to it labled "Jacobs Retarder"? Any clues?
Scott Waldy
'83FC35SB
Boise, Idaho
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Wilhelmus Schreurs
>
> well if you want, take a look under the coach, mid way of the drive
shaft you will see a big round thing, very big round thing which the
drive shaft goes through, sort of. If you got one of them, yup you
got an electric retarder.
>
> Bill
> 84FC35SB
> Terrace, B.C.
>
> Scott Forman <sforman@...> wrote:
> I have a small box attached to the side of my shifter as
well...but I
> have assumed it is a traler brake modulator (never had a trailer
> hooked to my coach). Has a knob that can be pulled back. Is it
> possible that I have a retarder and didn't even know it?
>
> Scott Forman
> 82 FC35RB
> Memphis
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Johnson"
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Scott,
> > Stephen is right, it's the retarder lever. A great feature if
> you're doing any mountain
> > driving. I used it a lot during our Colorado trip. Saves the
> brakes. Degree of braking
> > performance increases going from notch 1 to 3. You want to use it
> in moderation however
> > so you don't overheat the unit. It runs on DC and sucks quite a
> lot of juice.
> >
> > I usually use setting 1 or 2 for maybe 10 to 15 seconds at a
time,
> alternating with the air
> > brakes to slow the coach down. Setting 3, I save for more rapid
> breaking. You should
> > also have a yellow dash light that shows when the unit is on.
> >
> > Regards, Eric
> > 84FC35SBWL2
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a Strange Lever mounted to the side of the shifter box.
> The
> > > lever goes into a small black box with numbers on the side. As
> the
> > > lever is pulled down, the numbers increase and the lever is
> internally
> > > notched to stop on each of the numbers. Any clue?
> > >
> > > Scott Waldy
> > > '83FC35SB
> > > Boise, Idaho
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
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Strange Lever - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 08-19-2006 03:19
Mike:
Not so at all.
Electric trailer brakes actually has a puck that rubs on the drum which is
attached to the brake shoes, which in turn stops the trailer, so
electrical/mechanical/mechanical, yuk, lots of wear and maintenance.
With the Jacob's driveline retarder, it is electricity which creates a
magnetic field to slow down the vehicle. there are no rubbing parts.
Maintenance is very simple, cleaning, checking of contacts and greasing.
One thing which Jeff Miller alluded to, there is no connection between the
driveline retarder and the rest of the system , acceleration or braking. Gosh
one of the things when I get my BB home, I will look at installing circuitry
that will either allow the brake to be applied or disengage it when the throttle
is applied.
Bill
84FC35SB
Terrace, B.C.
Mike Hohnstein <MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote:
That would be one way to characterize the down grade retarder. It
functions like electric trailer brakes, in a way.
The well marked grease zerk, if not covered with road grime is a critical
maintainence point. I'm greatful that my retarder works pretty well so far, my
chassis has roughly 170k miles.
Mike Hohnstein
Germantown WI, Myrtle ID
83FC35rb
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:25 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Strange Lever
So this thing is like a driveline breaking system?
Scott Waldy
'83FC35SB
Boise, Idaho
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
wrote:
>
> Lots of great posts on the Jacobs Driveline retarder. (that is what
is
> on our coach 86FC) BUT no one mentioned the need to grease the
bearings
> inside. When we got ours you could not even tell it had a grease
> fitting. Find it on the side of the retarder. Use a GOOD HIGH TEMP
> GREASE. I grease mine pretty frequently.
>
> I did the dummy thing last year on the way to RIV and left it one
by
> mistake when entering the highway, thought I was draging an anchor,
> (actually felt like a fuel filter cloggin up) It got hot and
smelled,
> when shot with a temp gun it was just over 300* got back underway
in a
> hurry and got air to it. No harm works fine. I use it in stop and
go
> traffic, to limit the use of the service brakes. Works great for me.
>
> ScottB
> 86FC 4sale
> SC
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
wrote:
> >
> > I have a Strange Lever mounted to the side of the shifter box.
The
> > lever goes into a small black box with numbers on the side. As
the
> > lever is pulled down, the numbers increase and the lever is
> internally
> > notched to stop on each of the numbers. Any clue?
> >
> > Scott Waldy
> > '83FC35SB
> > Boise, Idaho
> >
>
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Strange Lever - Mike Hohnstein - 08-19-2006 03:27
You seem to be a little too critical. I believe I said, "works like electric
trailer brakes "IN A WAY" and I have one more reason to hate Canada.
MH
----- Original Message -----
From: Wilhelmus Schreurs
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Strange Lever
Mike:
Not so at all.
Electric trailer brakes actually has a puck that rubs on the drum which is
attached to the brake shoes, which in turn stops the trailer, so
electrical/mechanical/mechanical, yuk, lots of wear and maintenance.
With the Jacob's driveline retarder, it is electricity which creates a
magnetic field to slow down the vehicle. there are no rubbing parts. Maintenance
is very simple, cleaning, checking of contacts and greasing.
One thing which Jeff Miller alluded to, there is no connection between the
driveline retarder and the rest of the system , acceleration or braking. Gosh
one of the things when I get my BB home, I will look at installing circuitry
that will either allow the brake to be applied or disengage it when the throttle
is applied.
Bill
84FC35SB
Terrace, B.C.
Mike Hohnstein <MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote:
That would be one way to characterize the down grade retarder. It functions
like electric trailer brakes, in a way.
The well marked grease zerk, if not covered with road grime is a critical
maintainence point. I'm greatful that my retarder works pretty well so far, my
chassis has roughly 170k miles.
Mike Hohnstein
Germantown WI, Myrtle ID
83FC35rb
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:25 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Strange Lever
So this thing is like a driveline breaking system?
Scott Waldy
'83FC35SB
Boise, Idaho
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
wrote:
>
> Lots of great posts on the Jacobs Driveline retarder. (that is what
is
> on our coach 86FC) BUT no one mentioned the need to grease the
bearings
> inside. When we got ours you could not even tell it had a grease
> fitting. Find it on the side of the retarder. Use a GOOD HIGH TEMP
> GREASE. I grease mine pretty frequently.
>
> I did the dummy thing last year on the way to RIV and left it one
by
> mistake when entering the highway, thought I was draging an anchor,
> (actually felt like a fuel filter cloggin up) It got hot and
smelled,
> when shot with a temp gun it was just over 300* got back underway
in a
> hurry and got air to it. No harm works fine. I use it in stop and
go
> traffic, to limit the use of the service brakes. Works great for me.
>
> ScottB
> 86FC 4sale
> SC
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
wrote:
> >
> > I have a Strange Lever mounted to the side of the shifter box.
The
> > lever goes into a small black box with numbers on the side. As
the
> > lever is pulled down, the numbers increase and the lever is
> internally
> > notched to stop on each of the numbers. Any clue?
> >
> > Scott Waldy
> > '83FC35SB
> > Boise, Idaho
> >
>
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Strange Lever - erniecarpet@... - 08-19-2006 03:56
Mike- when you heading west, again? Ernie with Brenda here in Montana
preparing for daughters' wedding today. Sitting in my 83pt40 beside the
Yellowstone,
River
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Strange Lever - one_dusty_hoot - 08-19-2006 04:08
Bill, The '87 with the ZF has this, maybe others too. Seems
this would be a good mod for electric retarders to keep from
"dragging an anchor".
"I will look at installing circuitry that will either allow the brake
to be applied or disengage it when the throttle is applied."
Bob Janes '87FC35 Greenville SC
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Wilhelmus Schreurs
>
> Mike:
> Not so at all.
> Electric trailer brakes actually has a puck that rubs on the drum
which is attached to the brake shoes, which in turn stops the
trailer, so electrical/mechanical/mechanical, yuk, lots of wear and
maintenance.
>
> With the Jacob's driveline retarder, it is electricity which
creates a magnetic field to slow down the vehicle. there are no
rubbing parts. Maintenance is very simple, cleaning, checking of
contacts and greasing.
>
> One thing which Jeff Miller alluded to, there is no connection
between the driveline retarder and the rest of the system ,
acceleration or braking. Gosh one of the things when I get my BB
home, I will look at installing circuitry that will either allow the
brake to be applied or disengage it when the throttle is applied.
>
> Bill
> 84FC35SB
> Terrace, B.C.
>
> Mike Hohnstein <MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote:
> That would be one way to characterize the down grade
retarder. It functions like electric trailer brakes, in a way.
> The well marked grease zerk, if not covered with road grime is a
critical maintainence point. I'm greatful that my retarder works
pretty well so far, my chassis has roughly 170k miles.
> Mike Hohnstein
> Germantown WI, Myrtle ID
> 83FC35rb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:25 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Strange Lever
>
> So this thing is like a driveline breaking system?
>
> Scott Waldy
> '83FC35SB
> Boise, Idaho
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
> wrote:
> >
> > Lots of great posts on the Jacobs Driveline retarder. (that is
what
> is
> > on our coach 86FC) BUT no one mentioned the need to grease the
> bearings
> > inside. When we got ours you could not even tell it had a grease
> > fitting. Find it on the side of the retarder. Use a GOOD HIGH
TEMP
> > GREASE. I grease mine pretty frequently.
> >
> > I did the dummy thing last year on the way to RIV and left it one
> by
> > mistake when entering the highway, thought I was draging an
anchor,
> > (actually felt like a fuel filter cloggin up) It got hot and
> smelled,
> > when shot with a temp gun it was just over 300* got back underway
> in a
> > hurry and got air to it. No harm works fine. I use it in stop and
> go
> > traffic, to limit the use of the service brakes. Works great for
me.
> >
> > ScottB
> > 86FC 4sale
> > SC
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a Strange Lever mounted to the side of the shifter box.
> The
> > > lever goes into a small black box with numbers on the side. As
> the
> > > lever is pulled down, the numbers increase and the lever is
> > internally
> > > notched to stop on each of the numbers. Any clue?
> > >
> > > Scott Waldy
> > > '83FC35SB
> > > Boise, Idaho
> > >
> >
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Strange Lever - Gregory OConnor - 08-19-2006 04:33
Bill, just check the nut behind the steering wheel. With all the
safety systems you describe, the operator has limited chances to make
a mistake but many more chances for failed response from the
retarder. Education from others like Scott talking of 'felt like
dragging an anchor' is a good a way for all of us to recall the fix.
There was an instance in Ca where a fully loaded septic pumper truck
driver lost his brakes headed down hill. He was able to engage the
engine driven pump. The input was capped and the load of the vacuum
pump slowed the trucks engine and stopped the rig. I understand the
only spill was in the cab. Had his rig a fail-safe system that did
not allow it to be engaged while in motion, response from surprised
motorist in his path would be literal. "S*&%"
I will only allow operators as smart or smarter then myself to drive
my trucks.
Gregory O'Connor
94ptRomolandCa
Self-employed, no operators
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Wilhelmus Schreurs
>
> Mike:
> Not so at all.
> Electric trailer brakes actually has a puck that rubs on the drum
which is attached to the brake shoes, which in turn stops the
trailer, so electrical/mechanical/mechanical, yuk, lots of wear and
maintenance.
>
> With the Jacob's driveline retarder, it is electricity which
creates a magnetic field to slow down the vehicle. there are no
rubbing parts. Maintenance is very simple, cleaning, checking of
contacts and greasing.
>
> One thing which Jeff Miller alluded to, there is no connection
between the driveline retarder and the rest of the system ,
acceleration or braking. Gosh one of the things when I get my BB
home, I will look at installing circuitry that will either allow the
brake to be applied or disengage it when the throttle is applied.
>
> Bill
> 84FC35SB
> Terrace, B.C.
>
> Mike Hohnstein <MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote:
> That would be one way to characterize the down grade
retarder. It functions like electric trailer brakes, in a way.
> The well marked grease zerk, if not covered with road grime is a
critical maintainence point. I'm greatful that my retarder works
pretty well so far, my chassis has roughly 170k miles.
> Mike Hohnstein
> Germantown WI, Myrtle ID
> 83FC35rb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:25 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Strange Lever
>
> So this thing is like a driveline breaking system?
>
> Scott Waldy
> '83FC35SB
> Boise, Idaho
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
> wrote:
> >
> > Lots of great posts on the Jacobs Driveline retarder. (that is
what
> is
> > on our coach 86FC) BUT no one mentioned the need to grease the
> bearings
> > inside. When we got ours you could not even tell it had a grease
> > fitting. Find it on the side of the retarder. Use a GOOD HIGH
TEMP
> > GREASE. I grease mine pretty frequently.
> >
> > I did the dummy thing last year on the way to RIV and left it one
> by
> > mistake when entering the highway, thought I was draging an
anchor,
> > (actually felt like a fuel filter cloggin up) It got hot and
> smelled,
> > when shot with a temp gun it was just over 300* got back underway
> in a
> > hurry and got air to it. No harm works fine. I use it in stop and
> go
> > traffic, to limit the use of the service brakes. Works great for
me.
> >
> > ScottB
> > 86FC 4sale
> > SC
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a Strange Lever mounted to the side of the shifter box.
> The
> > > lever goes into a small black box with numbers on the side. As
> the
> > > lever is pulled down, the numbers increase and the lever is
> > internally
> > > notched to stop on each of the numbers. Any clue?
> > >
> > > Scott Waldy
> > > '83FC35SB
> > > Boise, Idaho
> > >
> >
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Strange Lever - Stephen Birtles - 08-19-2006 04:50
Bill do you think we should invite mike up here for a holiday between
the east coast and the west coast we could drive him completely around
the bend
Stephen 77fc35 from the east
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein"
<MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote:
>
> You seem to be a little too critical. I believe I said, "works like
electric trailer brakes "IN A WAY" and I have one more reason to hate
Canada.
> MH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wilhelmus Schreurs
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 10:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Strange Lever
>
>
> Mike:
> Not so at all.
> Electric trailer brakes actually has a puck that rubs on the drum
which is attached to the brake shoes, which in turn stops the trailer,
so electrical/mechanical/mechanical, yuk, lots of wear and maintenance.
>
> With the Jacob's driveline retarder, it is electricity which
creates a magnetic field to slow down the vehicle. there are no
rubbing parts. Maintenance is very simple, cleaning, checking of
contacts and greasing.
>
> One thing which Jeff Miller alluded to, there is no connection
between the driveline retarder and the rest of the system ,
acceleration or braking. Gosh one of the things when I get my BB home,
I will look at installing circuitry that will either allow the brake
to be applied or disengage it when the throttle is applied.
>
> Bill
> 84FC35SB
> Terrace, B.C.
>
> Mike Hohnstein <MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote:
> That would be one way to characterize the down grade retarder. It
functions like electric trailer brakes, in a way.
> The well marked grease zerk, if not covered with road grime is a
critical maintainence point. I'm greatful that my retarder works
pretty well so far, my chassis has roughly 170k miles.
> Mike Hohnstein
> Germantown WI, Myrtle ID
> 83FC35rb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:25 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Strange Lever
>
> So this thing is like a driveline breaking system?
>
> Scott Waldy
> '83FC35SB
> Boise, Idaho
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
> wrote:
> >
> > Lots of great posts on the Jacobs Driveline retarder. (that is what
> is
> > on our coach 86FC) BUT no one mentioned the need to grease the
> bearings
> > inside. When we got ours you could not even tell it had a grease
> > fitting. Find it on the side of the retarder. Use a GOOD HIGH TEMP
> > GREASE. I grease mine pretty frequently.
> >
> > I did the dummy thing last year on the way to RIV and left it one
> by
> > mistake when entering the highway, thought I was draging an anchor,
> > (actually felt like a fuel filter cloggin up) It got hot and
> smelled,
> > when shot with a temp gun it was just over 300* got back underway
> in a
> > hurry and got air to it. No harm works fine. I use it in stop and
> go
> > traffic, to limit the use of the service brakes. Works great for me.
> >
> > ScottB
> > 86FC 4sale
> > SC
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a Strange Lever mounted to the side of the shifter box.
> The
> > > lever goes into a small black box with numbers on the side. As
> the
> > > lever is pulled down, the numbers increase and the lever is
> > internally
> > > notched to stop on each of the numbers. Any clue?
> > >
> > > Scott Waldy
> > > '83FC35SB
> > > Boise, Idaho
> > >
> >
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Strange Lever - Mike Hohnstein - 08-19-2006 04:59
I appreciate the thought, however I don't think I'll get over the border with my
weaponry.
MH
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Birtles
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 11:50 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Strange Lever
Bill do you think we should invite mike up here for a holiday between
the east coast and the west coast we could drive him completely around
the bend
Stephen 77fc35 from the east
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein"
<MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote:
>
> You seem to be a little too critical. I believe I said, "works like
electric trailer brakes "IN A WAY" and I have one more reason to hate
Canada.
> MH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wilhelmus Schreurs
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 10:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Strange Lever
>
>
> Mike:
> Not so at all.
> Electric trailer brakes actually has a puck that rubs on the drum
which is attached to the brake shoes, which in turn stops the trailer,
so electrical/mechanical/mechanical, yuk, lots of wear and maintenance.
>
> With the Jacob's driveline retarder, it is electricity which
creates a magnetic field to slow down the vehicle. there are no
rubbing parts. Maintenance is very simple, cleaning, checking of
contacts and greasing.
>
> One thing which Jeff Miller alluded to, there is no connection
between the driveline retarder and the rest of the system ,
acceleration or braking. Gosh one of the things when I get my BB home,
I will look at installing circuitry that will either allow the brake
to be applied or disengage it when the throttle is applied.
>
> Bill
> 84FC35SB
> Terrace, B.C.
>
> Mike Hohnstein <MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote:
> That would be one way to characterize the down grade retarder. It
functions like electric trailer brakes, in a way.
> The well marked grease zerk, if not covered with road grime is a
critical maintainence point. I'm greatful that my retarder works
pretty well so far, my chassis has roughly 170k miles.
> Mike Hohnstein
> Germantown WI, Myrtle ID
> 83FC35rb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:25 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Strange Lever
>
> So this thing is like a driveline breaking system?
>
> Scott Waldy
> '83FC35SB
> Boise, Idaho
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
> wrote:
> >
> > Lots of great posts on the Jacobs Driveline retarder. (that is what
> is
> > on our coach 86FC) BUT no one mentioned the need to grease the
> bearings
> > inside. When we got ours you could not even tell it had a grease
> > fitting. Find it on the side of the retarder. Use a GOOD HIGH TEMP
> > GREASE. I grease mine pretty frequently.
> >
> > I did the dummy thing last year on the way to RIV and left it one
> by
> > mistake when entering the highway, thought I was draging an anchor,
> > (actually felt like a fuel filter cloggin up) It got hot and
> smelled,
> > when shot with a temp gun it was just over 300* got back underway
> in a
> > hurry and got air to it. No harm works fine. I use it in stop and
> go
> > traffic, to limit the use of the service brakes. Works great for me.
> >
> > ScottB
> > 86FC 4sale
> > SC
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a Strange Lever mounted to the side of the shifter box.
> The
> > > lever goes into a small black box with numbers on the side. As
> the
> > > lever is pulled down, the numbers increase and the lever is
> > internally
> > > notched to stop on each of the numbers. Any clue?
> > >
> > > Scott Waldy
> > > '83FC35SB
> > > Boise, Idaho
> > >
> >
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Strange Lever - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 08-19-2006 05:21
OHHHHH sorry, did not mean to hurt your feelings. I know all Yankees aren't
quite like you, thank goodness.
Bill
84FC35SB
Mike Hohnstein <MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote:
You seem to be a little too critical. I believe I said, "works like
electric trailer brakes "IN A WAY" and I have one more reason to hate Canada.
MH
----- Original Message -----
From: Wilhelmus Schreurs
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Strange Lever
Mike:
Not so at all.
Electric trailer brakes actually has a puck that rubs on the drum which is
attached to the brake shoes, which in turn stops the trailer, so
electrical/mechanical/mechanical, yuk, lots of wear and maintenance.
With the Jacob's driveline retarder, it is electricity which creates a magnetic
field to slow down the vehicle. there are no rubbing parts. Maintenance is very
simple, cleaning, checking of contacts and greasing.
One thing which Jeff Miller alluded to, there is no connection between the
driveline retarder and the rest of the system , acceleration or braking. Gosh
one of the things when I get my BB home, I will look at installing circuitry
that will either allow the brake to be applied or disengage it when the throttle
is applied.
Bill
84FC35SB
Terrace, B.C.
Mike Hohnstein <MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote:
That would be one way to characterize the down grade retarder. It functions like
electric trailer brakes, in a way.
The well marked grease zerk, if not covered with road grime is a critical
maintainence point. I'm greatful that my retarder works pretty well so far, my
chassis has roughly 170k miles.
Mike Hohnstein
Germantown WI, Myrtle ID
83FC35rb
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:25 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Strange Lever
So this thing is like a driveline breaking system?
Scott Waldy
'83FC35SB
Boise, Idaho
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
wrote:
>
> Lots of great posts on the Jacobs Driveline retarder. (that is what
is
> on our coach 86FC) BUT no one mentioned the need to grease the
bearings
> inside. When we got ours you could not even tell it had a grease
> fitting. Find it on the side of the retarder. Use a GOOD HIGH TEMP
> GREASE. I grease mine pretty frequently.
>
> I did the dummy thing last year on the way to RIV and left it one
by
> mistake when entering the highway, thought I was draging an anchor,
> (actually felt like a fuel filter cloggin up) It got hot and
smelled,
> when shot with a temp gun it was just over 300* got back underway
in a
> hurry and got air to it. No harm works fine. I use it in stop and
go
> traffic, to limit the use of the service brakes. Works great for me.
>
> ScottB
> 86FC 4sale
> SC
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
wrote:
> >
> > I have a Strange Lever mounted to the side of the shifter box.
The
> > lever goes into a small black box with numbers on the side. As
the
> > lever is pulled down, the numbers increase and the lever is
> internally
> > notched to stop on each of the numbers. Any clue?
> >
> > Scott Waldy
> > '83FC35SB
> > Boise, Idaho
> >
>
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Strange Lever - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 08-19-2006 05:34
Hmmm would love to invite you Mike, anytime, we can show you a real "GOOD TIME"
LOL
Bill 84FC35SB from the west coast
Stephen Birtles
Bill do you think we should invite mike up here for a holiday between
the east coast and the west coast we could drive him completely around
the bend
Stephen 77fc35 from the east
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein"
<MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote:
>
> You seem to be a little too critical. I believe I said, "works like
electric trailer brakes "IN A WAY" and I have one more reason to hate
Canada.
> MH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wilhelmus Schreurs
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 10:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Strange Lever
>
>
> Mike:
> Not so at all.
> Electric trailer brakes actually has a puck that rubs on the drum
which is attached to the brake shoes, which in turn stops the trailer,
so electrical/mechanical/mechanical, yuk, lots of wear and maintenance.
>
> With the Jacob's driveline retarder, it is electricity which
creates a magnetic field to slow down the vehicle. there are no
rubbing parts. Maintenance is very simple, cleaning, checking of
contacts and greasing.
>
> One thing which Jeff Miller alluded to, there is no connection
between the driveline retarder and the rest of the system ,
acceleration or braking. Gosh one of the things when I get my BB home,
I will look at installing circuitry that will either allow the brake
to be applied or disengage it when the throttle is applied.
>
> Bill
> 84FC35SB
> Terrace, B.C.
>
> Mike Hohnstein <MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote:
> That would be one way to characterize the down grade retarder. It
functions like electric trailer brakes, in a way.
> The well marked grease zerk, if not covered with road grime is a
critical maintainence point. I'm greatful that my retarder works
pretty well so far, my chassis has roughly 170k miles.
> Mike Hohnstein
> Germantown WI, Myrtle ID
> 83FC35rb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:25 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Strange Lever
>
> So this thing is like a driveline breaking system?
>
> Scott Waldy
> '83FC35SB
> Boise, Idaho
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
> wrote:
> >
> > Lots of great posts on the Jacobs Driveline retarder. (that is what
> is
> > on our coach 86FC) BUT no one mentioned the need to grease the
> bearings
> > inside. When we got ours you could not even tell it had a grease
> > fitting. Find it on the side of the retarder. Use a GOOD HIGH TEMP
> > GREASE. I grease mine pretty frequently.
> >
> > I did the dummy thing last year on the way to RIV and left it one
> by
> > mistake when entering the highway, thought I was draging an anchor,
> > (actually felt like a fuel filter cloggin up) It got hot and
> smelled,
> > when shot with a temp gun it was just over 300* got back underway
> in a
> > hurry and got air to it. No harm works fine. I use it in stop and
> go
> > traffic, to limit the use of the service brakes. Works great for me.
> >
> > ScottB
> > 86FC 4sale
> > SC
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a Strange Lever mounted to the side of the shifter box.
> The
> > > lever goes into a small black box with numbers on the side. As
> the
> > > lever is pulled down, the numbers increase and the lever is
> > internally
> > > notched to stop on each of the numbers. Any clue?
> > >
> > > Scott Waldy
> > > '83FC35SB
> > > Boise, Idaho
> > >
> >
>
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