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Anyone ever use POR-15? - Leroy Eckert - 07-22-2007 01:29
http://www.por-15.com is the site. Restoration supply shops like Year One, IPD also
carry it.
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL
Royale Conversion
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Thompson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Anyone ever use POR-15?
Where can you buy this? A regular paint store or does it have to be bought?
Does Home Depot or Lowe's handle it?
Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
1995 WLWB 42'Blue Bird
(cockyfox@...)
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Anyone ever use POR-15? - ebirder2000@... - 07-22-2007 01:53
Most hardware stores here in the Northwest carry Hammerite. Home Depot, and
Do It Best stores for sure.
Steve
In a message dated 7/22/2007 8:33:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
sforman@... writes:
Sounds right up my alley, was hoping (dreaming?) to find something
that did not require a lot of prep work since I am working in such
close quarters under the bus. Where is Hammerite sold?
--- In _WanderlodgeForum@WanderlodgeFWan_
(mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com) , ebirder2000@, ebir
>
>
> I have used POR-15 for several projects on the bus. It is an
exceptional
> product that produces a hard glossy finish that is very chip
resistant and easy
> to clean. BUT... in order to get the results that are possible from
it
> requires a lot of preparatory work. All loose rust must be removed
requiring scrappin
> g wire brushing etc. Then the metal preparatory solution, actually
an acid
> etcher, needs to be applied, allowed to work and then thoroughly
rinsed off in
> order to stop the acid action. The surface to be painted must be
dry. Make
> sure that you wear gloves as POR -15 is difficult to remove from
your skin.
> Your results will be great with if you follow the directions. POR
15 is not an
> inexpensive product for large projects like an entire bus chassis.
>
> I have been painting/repainting the chassis of my bus small
sections and
> have had good results from a product called Hammerite. The
preparation process
> is far less complicated. I have been removing all the loose rust,
cleaning all
> the grease and oil from the surface to be covered with solvents
then brush
> painting it on. The product has shown excellent adherence to the
chassis and
> has been holding up well. The acid etching process required for
POR-15 is not
> required. The best part is that Hammerite costs about one forth as
much as
> POR-15.
>
> I am not suggesting that Hammerite is a better product than POR-15.
In fact
> it is not. But to be practical, if you are repainting an entire
chassis as it
> sits, that is, with the all the electrical, wiring, hoses and
accessories
> still attached, and are working under the bus. Then acid etching
and complete
> rust removal is not possible. I recommend the less expensive,
easier route. I
> think you will probably be satisfied with the results.
>
> Steve Anderson
> 79 FC 35
> Poulsbo, Wa.
>
>
> In a message dated 7/21/2007 6:08:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> sforman@... writes:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Seems like a good product in design, wondering if it works.
Wanting to
> address surface oxidation under my bus. Anyone use it or know
another
> better product?
>
> Scott Forman
> 86 PT38
> With a cruddy underside
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Anyone ever use POR-15? - Jonathan L - 07-22-2007 01:55
I have used it before on restoring my cars. The only prep I do is to take a
wire brush and knock off any dirt and loose scale. I usually put a wire
brush attachment to my drill to knock the stuff off. It does the trick. I
have also washed the area down if it was really dusty/dirty. I did let it
dry thoroughly before applying.
Jonathan Leifheit
Wannabee
At 09:02 AM 7/22/2007, you wrote:
>Is prep required to go over a rusty surface?
>
>
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert"
>
> >
> > I have used POR-15 for years. It is a great product. It flows out
>nicely. You can paint over rust ( POR )or paint without the rust if
>you Ospho, sandblast or etch steel. It needs something to bite. If it
>is exposed to sunlight, it needs to be topcoated. I'll guarantee it
>will never rust again if applied properly.
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> > Niceville, FL
> > Royale Conversion
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Scott Forman
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:07 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Anyone ever use POR-15?
> >
> >
> > Seems like a good product in design, wondering if it works.
>Wanting to
> > address surface oxidation under my bus. Anyone use it or know
>another
> > better product?
> >
> > Scott Forman
> > 86 PT38
> > With a cruddy underside
> >
Anyone ever use POR-15? - David Brady - 07-22-2007 03:06
The use of any acid on spring steel can lead to hydrogen
embrittlement. This probably isn't an issue with most of the
undercarriage, but could be an issue with small springs and
clamps in the engine compartment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_embrittlement
David Brady
'02 LXi, Smokey
NC
ebirder2000@... wrote:
>
>
> I have used POR-15 for several projects on the bus. It is an exceptional
> product that produces a hard glossy finish that is very chip resistant
> and easy
> to clean. BUT... in order to get the results that are possible from it
> requires a lot of preparatory work. All loose rust must be removed
> requiring scrappin
> g wire brushing etc. Then the metal preparatory solution, actually an
> acid
> etcher, needs to be applied, allowed to work and then thoroughly
> rinsed off in
> order to stop the acid action. The surface to be painted must be dry.
> Make
> sure that you wear gloves as POR -15 is difficult to remove from your
> skin.
> Your results will be great with if you follow the directions. POR 15
> is not an
> inexpensive product for large projects like an entire bus chassis.
>
> I have been painting/repainting the chassis of my bus small sections and
> have had good results from a product called Hammerite. The preparation
> process
> is far less complicated. I have been removing all the loose rust,
> cleaning all
> the grease and oil from the surface to be covered with solvents then
> brush
> painting it on. The product has shown excellent adherence to the
> chassis and
> has been holding up well. The acid etching process required for POR-15
> is not
> required. The best part is that Hammerite costs about one forth as
> much as
> POR-15.
>
> I am not suggesting that Hammerite is a better product than POR-15. In
> fact
> it is not. But to be practical, if you are repainting an entire
> chassis as it
> sits, that is, with the all the electrical, wiring, hoses and accessories
> still attached, and are working under the bus. Then acid etching and
> complete
> rust removal is not possible. I recommend the less expensive, easier
> route. I
> think you will probably be satisfied with the results.
>
> Steve Anderson
> 79 FC 35
> Poulsbo, Wa.
>
>
> In a message dated 7/21/2007 6:08:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> sforman@...
>
> Seems like a good product in design, wondering if it works. Wanting to
> address surface oxidation under my bus. Anyone use it or know another
> better product?
>
> Scott Forman
> 86 PT38
> With a cruddy underside
>
> ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new
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Anyone ever use POR-15? - Scott Forman - 07-22-2007 03:32
Sounds right up my alley, was hoping (dreaming?) to find something
that did not require a lot of prep work since I am working in such
close quarters under the bus. Where is Hammerite sold?
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, ebirder2000@... wrote:
>
>
> I have used POR-15 for several projects on the bus. It is an
exceptional
> product that produces a hard glossy finish that is very chip
resistant and easy
> to clean. BUT... in order to get the results that are possible from
it
> requires a lot of preparatory work. All loose rust must be removed
requiring scrappin
> g wire brushing etc. Then the metal preparatory solution, actually
an acid
> etcher, needs to be applied, allowed to work and then thoroughly
rinsed off in
> order to stop the acid action. The surface to be painted must be
dry. Make
> sure that you wear gloves as POR -15 is difficult to remove from
your skin.
> Your results will be great with if you follow the directions. POR
15 is not an
> inexpensive product for large projects like an entire bus chassis.
>
> I have been painting/repainting the chassis of my bus small
sections and
> have had good results from a product called Hammerite. The
preparation process
> is far less complicated. I have been removing all the loose rust,
cleaning all
> the grease and oil from the surface to be covered with solvents
then brush
> painting it on. The product has shown excellent adherence to the
chassis and
> has been holding up well. The acid etching process required for
POR-15 is not
> required. The best part is that Hammerite costs about one forth as
much as
> POR-15.
>
> I am not suggesting that Hammerite is a better product than POR-15.
In fact
> it is not. But to be practical, if you are repainting an entire
chassis as it
> sits, that is, with the all the electrical, wiring, hoses and
accessories
> still attached, and are working under the bus. Then acid etching
and complete
> rust removal is not possible. I recommend the less expensive,
easier route. I
> think you will probably be satisfied with the results.
>
> Steve Anderson
> 79 FC 35
> Poulsbo, Wa.
>
>
> In a message dated 7/21/2007 6:08:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> sforman@... writes:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Seems like a good product in design, wondering if it works.
Wanting to
> address surface oxidation under my bus. Anyone use it or know
another
> better product?
>
> Scott Forman
> 86 PT38
> With a cruddy underside
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-
new AOL at
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Anyone ever use POR-15? - David Brady - 07-22-2007 03:44
Jamestown Distributors, Bristol RI
David Brady
'02 LXi, Smokey
NC
Scott Forman wrote:
>
> Sounds right up my alley, was hoping (dreaming?) to find something
> that did not require a lot of prep work since I am working in such
> close quarters under the bus. Where is Hammerite sold?
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> >
> >
> > I have used POR-15 for several projects on the bus. It is an
> exceptional
> > product that produces a hard glossy finish that is very chip
> resistant and easy
> > to clean. BUT... in order to get the results that are possible from
> it
> > requires a lot of preparatory work. All loose rust must be removed
> requiring scrappin
> > g wire brushing etc. Then the metal preparatory solution, actually
> an acid
> > etcher, needs to be applied, allowed to work and then thoroughly
> rinsed off in
> > order to stop the acid action. The surface to be painted must be
> dry. Make
> > sure that you wear gloves as POR -15 is difficult to remove from
> your skin.
> > Your results will be great with if you follow the directions. POR
> 15 is not an
> > inexpensive product for large projects like an entire bus chassis.
> >
> > I have been painting/repainting the chassis of my bus small
> sections and
> > have had good results from a product called Hammerite. The
> preparation process
> > is far less complicated. I have been removing all the loose rust,
> cleaning all
> > the grease and oil from the surface to be covered with solvents
> then brush
> > painting it on. The product has shown excellent adherence to the
> chassis and
> > has been holding up well. The acid etching process required for
> POR-15 is not
> > required. The best part is that Hammerite costs about one forth as
> much as
> > POR-15.
> >
> > I am not suggesting that Hammerite is a better product than POR-15.
> In fact
> > it is not. But to be practical, if you are repainting an entire
> chassis as it
> > sits, that is, with the all the electrical, wiring, hoses and
> accessories
> > still attached, and are working under the bus. Then acid etching
> and complete
> > rust removal is not possible. I recommend the less expensive,
> easier route. I
> > think you will probably be satisfied with the results.
> >
> > Steve Anderson
> > 79 FC 35
> > Poulsbo, Wa.
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 7/21/2007 6:08:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > sforman@... writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Seems like a good product in design, wondering if it works.
> Wanting to
> > address surface oxidation under my bus. Anyone use it or know
> another
> > better product?
> >
> > Scott Forman
> > 86 PT38
> > With a cruddy underside
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-
> new AOL at
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Anyone ever use POR-15? - Ron Thompson - 07-22-2007 05:42
Thanks Leroy, had to remove the dash between Por and 15 then it went to the
website. Thanks again.
Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
1995 WLWB 42'Blue Bird
(cockyfox@...)
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