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"Interesting" Ad - Leroy Eckert - 02-07-2008 16:34 I don't have a clue Bob. I actually think the thread has relevance because it is about ownership. I do know this. There are no fundamental reasons why a Prevost of the same vintage should be valued at 30 percent more than a BB other than marketing and perceived value. During my discussion with the owner of the Las Vegas Bird he made a statement that is very relevant. He sells Fender and other guitars. Fender guitars are famous because of their use by rock and roll stars in the early years. His statement. "Fender guitars made in Korea are perceived to be the best because of fabulous marketing. There are far better technical instruments." BB has not excelled in marketing over the years. Hopefully, that will change. One other reason not to shoot yourself in the foot. When a catastrophic event occurs what is to keep an insurance adjuster from fishing a public site for perceived value?? Who better to establish value than an owner?? That is my presented case in a nutshell. Something to think about. I am done and off the box. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Dahlonega, GA Royale Conversion bloomas
Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. "Interesting" Ad - Mike McMahan - 02-07-2008 16:41 Thank you Leroy. I agree with you and Bob completely. You headed back to Texas anytime soon. Mike McMahan 96 42' Wanderlodge --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Leroy Eckert > > I don't have a clue Bob. I actually think the thread has relevance because it is about ownership. > I do know this. There are no fundamental reasons why a Prevost of the same vintage should be valued at 30 percent more than a BB other than marketing and perceived value. During my discussion with the owner of the Las Vegas Bird he made a statement that is very relevant. He sells Fender and other guitars. Fender guitars are famous because of their use by rock and roll stars in the early years. His statement. "Fender guitars made in Korea are perceived to be the best because of fabulous marketing. There are far better technical instruments." > BB has not excelled in marketing over the years. Hopefully, that will change. > One other reason not to shoot yourself in the foot. When a catastrophic event occurs what is to keep an insurance adjuster from fishing a public site for perceived value?? Who better to establish value than an owner?? > That is my presented case in a nutshell. Something to think about. I am done and off the box. > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > Dahlonega, GA > Royale Conversion > > > bloomas > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Leroy Eckert > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:29 PM > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] "Interesting" Ad > > Leroy I agree with you 100% Why would someone want to shoot them self in the foot?I really do not see how this thread has anything to do with fixing a bird. > Bob Loomas 1985 PT 36 > Harahan La. > > > I think every Bluebird owner should continue to talk the value of their quality Bluebird into the ground until they try to sell it. You will have established the value for the buyer. At that time, don't bother with records, upgrades, history or anything else because they aren't important and represent zero value. Just hand the buyer your money. > That is like purchasing stock in Big Joe's Burgers then telling all you friends the burgers taste like #$%$. > I also find it interesting that money spent jetting around kicking tires is never taken into the spending equation. The price of the bus. ???? I'm dense, I don't get it. Is it a deal or not?? > I wouldn't tear up the coach in Las Vegas until you evaluate it in person. The guy may be nuts enough to have kept it in pristine shape. Based on what I have read on blog's that may be the case. It may be a jewel and it may not. I'm fix'n to talk to him for a friend. I will let you know what he says. > My opinion is like a nose, we all got one and I cleaned it up.. Mine is just different. > > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > Dahlonega, GA > Royale Conversion > > Don Bradner > I see nothing to indicate that his '90 has any leg up on our '90, for which we paid $82.5K a year ago and might well have gotten for less. I said in another post that I felt $75K was top of the market for a '90 these days. > > Don Bradner > 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder" > Posting today by satellite from Quartzsite > > On 2/7/2008 at 1:18 PM Pete Masterson wrote: > > >The price is the key. If it's offered at a competitive price > >(something well under $100k), then it may be a good buy. > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > "Interesting" Ad - bubblerboy64 - 02-07-2008 17:35 I think that is one of the nicer looking coaches I've seen advertized. I keep talking myself out of up grading because I really don't need more then what I have. I didn't "study" his write up and apparently there are errors but he does have a very impressive advertizement there. The fellows who have birds listed on the bill board should check that one out. Pictures, pictures, pictures. I used to do some buying and selling on eBay and its no wonder that some of the BB's have not sold after being listed for over a year. Absolutely no effort placing in the adds. Doesn't it make sense if you are selling an item worth upwards of 100K to invest a little money in a professional looking add? Read some of the ones on the Bill Board. No pictures in some. Very poor ones in others. Some don't even tell you were the coach is located. As to discussing the actually selling price etc, I can see both sides of that. Look, it's a benefit to both seller and buyer to have some idea of what is in fact reality. I do not agree that its just year and model which determines the price. Of course those are likely the most significant but I for one would consider condition almost as important, maybe more important. Nothing beats talking to the owner either. Most of us guys 50 or older have been around the horn a time or two and I am reasonable confident in my ability to "spot" a bad one. Not to say I haven't been taken a time or two or that it couldn't happen again. If I was serious I'd be lookin' hard at that one as well. I think this type of discussion is very helpful and especially to those who are looking to buy or to those of us who have stuff "follow us home". My wife has learned that there is no "just going to look at it" with me. It's good that one is out of just lookin range. John Heckman central Pa 1973 FC > > Thank you Leroy. I agree with you and Bob completely. You headed > back to Texas anytime soon. Mike McMahan 96 42' Wanderlodge > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Leroy Eckert > > > > > I don't have a clue Bob. I actually think the thread has relevance > because it is about ownership. > > I do know this. There are no fundamental reasons why a Prevost of > the same vintage should be valued at 30 percent more than a BB other > than marketing and perceived value. During my discussion with the > owner of the Las Vegas Bird he made a statement that is very > relevant. He sells Fender and other guitars. Fender guitars are > famous because of their use by rock and roll stars in the early > years. His statement. "Fender guitars made in Korea are perceived to > be the best because of fabulous marketing. There are far better > technical instruments." > > BB has not excelled in marketing over the years. Hopefully, that > will change. > > One other reason not to shoot yourself in the foot. When a > catastrophic event occurs what is to keep an insurance adjuster from > fishing a public site for perceived value?? Who better to establish > value than an owner?? > > That is my presented case in a nutshell. Something to think about. > I am done and off the box. > > Leroy Eckert > > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > > Dahlonega, GA > > Royale Conversion > > > > > > bloomas > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Leroy Eckert > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:29 PM > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] "Interesting" Ad > > > > Leroy I agree with you 100% Why would someone want to shoot > them self in the foot?I really do not see how this thread has > anything to do with fixing a bird. > > Bob Loomas 1985 PT 36 > > Harahan La. > > > > > > I think every Bluebird owner should continue to talk the > value of their quality Bluebird into the ground until they try to > sell it. You will have established the value for the buyer. At > that time, don't bother with records, upgrades, history or > anything else because they aren't important and represent zero > value. Just hand the buyer your money. > > That is like purchasing stock in Big Joe's Burgers then telling > all you friends the burgers taste like #$%$. > > I also find it interesting that money spent jetting around > kicking tires is never taken into the spending equation. The price > of the bus. ???? I'm dense, I don't get it. Is it a deal or not?? > > I wouldn't tear up the coach in Las Vegas until you evaluate it > in person. The guy may be nuts enough to have kept it in pristine > shape. Based on what I have read on blog's that may be the case. > It may be a jewel and it may not. I'm fix'n to talk to him for a > friend. I will let you know what he says. > > My opinion is like a nose, we all got one and I cleaned it up.. > Mine is just different. > > > > Leroy Eckert > > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > > Dahlonega, GA > > Royale Conversion > > > > Don Bradner > > I see nothing to indicate that his '90 has any leg up on > our '90, for which we paid $82.5K a year ago and might well have > gotten for less. I said in another post that I felt $75K was top > of the market for a '90 these days. > > > > Don Bradner > > 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder" > > Posting today by satellite from Quartzsite > > > > On 2/7/2008 at 1:18 PM Pete Masterson wrote: > > > > >The price is the key. If it's offered at a competitive price > > >(something well under $100k), then it may be a good buy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! > Search. > > > "Interesting" Ad - Gregory OConnor - 02-07-2008 18:01 I am just beginning to understand that many want CCW to be sucessful because they think it will add resale value???? Here all this time I thought it was brand loyalty and brand pride. I think Don's information is helpful to those looking to get into a BB Bus and only harmful to those looking to overvalue a flip. My neighbor Mike sold his home and walked over our house to introduce me to the new owner Fred . We talked for a while then Mike asked me to help He and his wife pack and move away. I asked, "Why should I help you move?" He replied, "because we are neighbors." I responded, "Good point", then turned my attention to Fred and asked " if you need help unpacking, call" GregoryO'Connor 94pt $100Grand 2005 RomolandCa "Interesting" Ad - birdshill123 - 02-08-2008 01:30 I would suggest that anyone interested in a coach walk or run a way from this one. You cannot believe anything that is on that web site. Why not ask him where the $140,000 has been spent. All new Propane system has now become new lines?? I am a businessman and when I smell something fishy I walk away. To top all of this his attitude is horrible. As for "talking up" value: Dos this mean when we have problems we should not post it in a publc forum in case an insurance adjuster is lurking?? Tell it like it is. A real buyer will see the value without any attached bs. Bruce 1988 FC35 "Interesting" Ad - Leroy Eckert - 02-08-2008 12:24 We hope to get that way in the Summer when the kids are out of school. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Dahlonega, GA Royale Conversion Mike McMahan <mmcmahan@...> wrote:
Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. "Interesting" Ad - Tom McCarthy - 02-09-2008 07:59 Rob, who cares what the price is. It is Y2K approved! Priceless! Tommy 2S McCarthy Poway CA 95 PT42 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Donald Watson" > > Rob, > > Price, I don't think so. It was perhaps about this time last year. I was > searching all over for a wide range of Wanderlodges, coming across it on the > internet. I didn't look any further than the URL you provided today, but I > remember some real estate being sold as well. It was the guitar graphics > that triggered my memory. I'm not too keen on the 'hype'. Just the facts > please, as it were. I'm sorry that I don't have any further information. > > Donn > > (I just noticed that my email address isn't suppressed below. I would > understand it being in the header, but.....in the body of text?. I wonder > if that is an issue on my end.) > > > From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Robinson > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:05 AM > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] "Interesting" Ad > > Donn did you see a price? > On 07/02/2008, Donald Watson > From what I recollect, this vehicle has been on the market now for at least > a year. > > Donn > '76 FC33 > North Kingstown, RI > "Interesting" Ad - Tom McCarthy - 02-09-2008 08:09 Don, He says he put $140K into it. Where? Probably in the safe since I don't see it elsewhere. Well, it might be the house cost next to where he parks. Someone should tell him to retrieve his cash before he sells it. Tom McCarthy Poway CA --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner" > > I see nothing to indicate that his '90 has any leg up on our '90, for which we paid $82.5K a year ago and might well have gotten for less. I said in another post that I felt $75K was top of the market for a '90 these days. > > Don Bradner > 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder" > Posting today by satellite from Quartzsite > > On 2/7/2008 at 1:18 PM Pete Masterson wrote: > > >The price is the key. If it's offered at a competitive price > >(something well under $100k), then it may be a good buy. > "Interesting" Ad - birdshill123 - 02-09-2008 08:29 Others may feel this is a ncie coach and that could be true. But when Isee one blatent lie (The $14k updates) that tells me to look elsewhere. His rant on BB v Prevost does nothing to help with the sale. A little more "meat" and less BS in the ad might result in a quick sale. Methinks he doth protest too much ! Bruce 1988 FC 35 "Interesting" Ad - Gregory OConnor - 02-09-2008 10:08 Bruce, Shakespeare?? "Dont judge the Chili by the hat the chef wears" "Proof of the Bus is in the driving" all quite O'Connorian GregoryO'Connor 94ptRomolandCa --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123" > > Others may feel this is a ncie coach and that could be true. But when > Isee one blatent lie (The $14k updates) that tells me to look > elsewhere. His rant on BB v Prevost does nothing to help with the > sale. A little more "meat" and less BS in the ad might result in a > quick sale. Methinks he doth protest too much ! > > > Bruce > 1988 FC 35 > |