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50a electrical plugs? - erniecarpet@... - 04-15-2008 08:30



Stephen- do you sell this cable?
Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston, Montana



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50a electrical plugs? - erniecarpet@... - 04-15-2008 08:33



Stephen- you can have all the snow that I have had to shovel in my lifetime- 60+ years. Fortunately, it is melting cause I have to move the coach to dump the tanks.
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83PT40
Livingston, Montana



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50a electrical plugs? - Ryan Wright - 04-15-2008 11:07

Hi Pete,

> 50 Amp cable carries a _lot_ of electrical potential, so you do need to be
> very careful with your choices. Using romex (or romex-like products) for an
> extension cord may seem like a practical idea

Oh no - I was NOT planning on using romex for an extension cord.
Electrical codes exist for a reason and I follow them. My comment on
romex referred to moving the outlet. My 50 amp service is on the side
of my house. I need to move it about 20 feet further down the house so
my existing Wanderlodge cord will reach. I've been told I shouldn't
make a 50 foot long, 50 amp cord, because of problems with voltage
drop.

I, however, don't see the difference between these two scenarios:

1. Run an additional 20 feet of romex, in the wall of my house, to
move the outlet, then connect my 30 foot cord.

2. Leave the outlet where it is and just make a 50 foot cord.

As far as electrical potential is concerned, if the wire gauge is
equal, seems the same thing to me, and number 2 is certainly easier.

> The National Electrical Code requires buried
> wires and/or use of conduit for an exposed location.

Yep, and the 30 amp feed I installed for my greenhouse is THWN in
buried conduit.

> Finally, you might 'get away' with using BX (armored) flexible conduit for
> your "extension cord", although I'd be concerned that direct sun exposure
> would overheat the wires. Obviously, driving over it with your coach is very
> likely to destroy it.

No - I plan to use the same type of material used for the factory
extension cord. I'm doing this by the book. Also, I never drive over
my extension cords - I always move them out of the way before moving
the coach.

> So, my question is, Is that really an output plug?

It's possible. I don't have anything like that on my '86. Just the
standard 50 amp input, and a pair of 30 amp inputs (one for each leg),
and the various cord sets. That output plug would be a real handy
feature, though.

> (Since we've only had one extended (a few hours) power outage here in the
> past 25 years, needing the backup power from the generator seems fairly
> remote. -- and I can 'tap into' the coach 120 vac system, should the need
> arise, with extension cords fed from normal outlets -- that would be
> sufficient to keep the home refrigerator and freezer 'going' to prevent
> spoiled food. I already have sufficient extension cords to handle that
> possibility.)

Yeah - my area has very stable power as well. The longest power
outages last just a few hours and come only every few years. The last
one was last winter, first power outage since I've had my coach. We
just abandoned the house, fired up the generator and watched movies in
the coach until the power came back. If it would have been too long,
I'd have powered my deep freezer with an extension cord off the coach
until power returned, but I've lived here nearly 30 years and there
hasn't once been a power outage long enough to spoil food.

-Ryan
'86 PT-40 8V92

50a electrical plugs? - Ryan Wright - 04-15-2008 11:09

Thanks Bruce & Shane for the confirmation on the plugs fitting. Now I
know exactly what to buy! Smile Just have to find the right wire and I'm
set...

-Ryan

50a electrical plugs? - Terry Neal - 04-15-2008 11:42


Ryan,

You want to use SWOO cord. It's the type of cord used for welders,
etc. An electrical distributor will cut it to length for you. Use 6/4
copper for a 50 foot run. This is what I use for my PT40 main cord. I
run it from my workshop building with an exterior 30 & 50 amp RV
power outlet box. I also use it to wire 220 volt hot tubs. Same thing
I fixed Ernie up with for his coach.

Terry Neal

Bozeman, MT

82PT40 6V92TA

74FC34 6V53T











Ryan Wright wrote:









Thanks Bruce & Shane for the confirmation on the plugs

fitting. Now I



know exactly what to buy! Smile Just have to find the right wire and I'm



set...







-Ryan







 








50a electrical plugs? - Stephen Birtles -  04-15-2008 12:19




soow cable

Stephen 77fc35



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Terry Neal  wrote:

>

> Ryan,

> You want to use SWOO cord.  It's the type of cord used for welders,

> etc.  An electrical distributor will cut it to length for you.  Use

6/4

> copper for a 50 foot run.  This is what I use for my PT40 main

cord.  I

> run it from my workshop building with an exterior 30 & 50 amp RV

power

> outlet box.  I also use it to wire 220 volt hot tubs.  Same thing I

> fixed Ernie up with for his coach.

>

> Terry Neal

> Bozeman, MT

> 82PT40 6V92TA

> 74FC34 6V53T

>

>

>

> Ryan Wright wrote:

>

> > Thanks Bruce & Shane for the confirmation on the plugs fitting.

Now I

> > know exactly what to buy! Smile Just have to find the right wire and

I'm

> > set...

> >

> > -Ryan

> >

> >

>







50a electrical plugs? - Stephen Birtles -  04-15-2008 12:24




90°C UL/CSA TYPE SOOW • 600V



Type SOOW 90°C

Designed for extra hard usage with industrial

equipment, heavy tools, battery chargers, portable

lights and power extensions. SOOW is sunlight,

water, oil and weather resistant and suitable for

outdoor applications.



Stephen 77fc35

http://www.dupreeproducts.com































--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Birtles"

 wrote:

>

> soow cable

> Stephen 77fc35

>

> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Terry Neal  wrote:

> >

> > Ryan,

> > You want to use SWOO cord.  It's the type of cord used for

welders,

> > etc.  An electrical distributor will cut it to length for you.

Use

> 6/4

> > copper for a 50 foot run.  This is what I use for my PT40 main

> cord.  I

> > run it from my workshop building with an exterior 30 & 50 amp RV

> power

> > outlet box.  I also use it to wire 220 volt hot tubs.  Same thing

I

> > fixed Ernie up with for his coach.

> >

> > Terry Neal

> > Bozeman, MT

> > 82PT40 6V92TA

> > 74FC34 6V53T

> >

> >

> >

> > Ryan Wright wrote:

> >

> > > Thanks Bruce & Shane for the confirmation on the plugs fitting.

> Now I

> > > know exactly what to buy! Smile Just have to find the right wire

and

> I'm

> > > set...

> > >

> > > -Ryan

> > >

> > >

> >

>







50a electrical plugs? - Stephen Hare -  04-15-2008 12:29





Ernie,


Snow? Wow. I could not imagine. Its been in the upper 80's already. 


Cant wait till my house sells, and I can get out of here!! I want to see


snow! Have not seen it since '76? I was too young to remember.. lol




Stephen


Plant City, Fl


Birdless for now










On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:49 PM, <"erniecarpet@aol.com"> wrote:




















That's' correct. I have used that 50 foot cord for about a year now with no problems. Here in Montana, I have used my electric heaters, freeze protection heaters, microwave, water heater, etc, with no voltage problems at all. 


Ernie Ekberg

83PT40

Livingston, Montana
--with more SNOW


yesterday- 75 degrees













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50a electrical plugs? - Stephen Birtles -  04-15-2008 12:38




yes but We only bring it in when we have to the price of copper is

similar to gold

Stephen 77fc35



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@... wrote:

>

> Stephen- do you sell this cable?

>

> Ernie  Ekberg

> 83PT40

> Livingston, Montana

>

>

>

>

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50a electrical plugs? - Pete Masterson -  04-15-2008 14:24




The easy way is to check the voltage in the coach. I have two 30-amp cords (end to end) to reach my coach. The voltage in the coach is within 1 volt of the voltage in the house (probably within the tolerance of my relatively cheap multi-meter).


You're probably just fine if you make the extension cord.


Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
"aeonix1@mac.com"


 


On Apr 15, 2008, at 4:07 PM, Ryan Wright wrote:
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I, however, don't see the difference between these two scenarios:


1. Run an additional 20 feet of romex, in the wall of my house, to
move the outlet, then connect my 30 foot cord.


2. Leave the outlet where it is and just make a 50 foot cord.


As far as electrical potential is concerned, if the wire gauge is
equal, seems the same thing to me, and number 2 is certainly easier.
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