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Could somebody anwer this please - Kurt Horvath - 03-01-2009 04:13
Boy this tread went off in a different direction,
As a proud Vintage Bluebird owner, if I were to get into another
coach there is only one direction. A bus chassis with a good solid
conversion.
In time the BB will be as distinguested a Collectable as Airstream,
GMC, Corvette, Picasso, Winchester?????? $ 4 $ pound for pound, the
Bird is still and always will be THE ULIMATE ---CLASSIC MOTORHOME.---
I know this from the reactions I get at campgrounds from passer byes
WOW a BLUEBIRD, She's beautiful!!! NO WAY THAT THINGS 15 years old!!!
Ross, what's going to happen to the re-call and the coaches that were
not upgraded?
Kurt Horvath
95 PT 42
10AC
In ,WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ross"
>
> For interest,the handling of the new Wanderlodges with IFS was
> great.The new Foretravel IFS should be good,great interiors, but
fiber
> walls.
> As for Newell, nice coach, but far overweight and illegal. They
have a
> 28,000 drive axle and run 24,000 empty.
> Why would anyone consider that.
> Ross 2006 LXi
> Prevost or tent.
> >
> > Greg,
> >
> > Exactly. Newell builds a nice coach but the interior fit and
finish
> is nowhere near Blue Bird. The Newell advantage is handling. The
one
> I had was a pleasure to drive and it never porpoised like a
> Wanderlodge. With 2/3rds of the weight under the floor, the low
> center of gravity kept the coach relatively flat in corners and
very
> responsive at the wheel. The other nice thing is..I believe the
same
> people have always owned Newell. It's a tight, closely held
company
> with long-term employees and a real family atmosphere. But there's
no
> perfect coach.
> >
> > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > From: Petrover1@
> > Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:22:28 +0000
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Could somebody anwer this please
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Too much power in reserve has little value. I have a battery bank
> for
> > the Bus'house with over 700 lbs of Trojan L-16's. they would last
> > three to four days without charge but when it comes time to
charge
> > you have to run the genset 4 times as long as you would have to
> > run/charge if you were to charge once a day. My set up would be
> great
> > for some one like CurtS who visits the desert for a weekend at a
> > time and the trip to and from would be charge time via the alts
and
> > docking shore power. the big problem with a large bank is the
> > replacement cost. I understand all batteries are best to renew at
> the
> > same time. My '90 Newell didnt hold a candle to the Wanderlodge
as
> > far as quality but I am kinda thinking it is time to revisit that
> > last american Coach for my next unit
> > Greg ofTim&Greg
> > 94ptCa --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, brad barton
> > <bbartonwx@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I liked the 8-D's in our Newell. We have 4-D's in the LXi now.
> > Only disadvantage is how heavy and awkward they are.
> > >
> > > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: danusa@
> > > Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:08:12 -0600
> > > Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Could somebody anwer this please
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > George, Really the 8D's are not expensive. I started with six
> > Trojan golfcart batteries and a truecharge 40+ charger. Then I
> > changed to six AGM golfcart batteries and a Xantrex RV2512GS
> > inverter/charger. The Trojans cost me about $350 and the Lifeline
> > about $600. The 8D batteries are blems or refurb exide and cost
$40
> > each. I just now installed them so I don't have much history but
if
> > I get overnight camping out of them I will be happy. I will look
> > into the group 31 batts. BTW, I used to live in Rock Hill, SC
just
> > south of Charlotte and was a member of the Rock Hill Civil Air
> Patrol
> > and EMS. I really enjoyed the people, the climate and the
> > hospitality there a lot and I hope to get back there someday..
> > >
> > > Dan Williams, 88WB38, Jackson, MS
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George
Burke
> > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 3:27 PM
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Could somebody anwer this please
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dan, 8D batteries are usually used for starting, and I am not
sure
> > that they would be a good choice to use as house batteries. They
are
> > expensive however, and if you wanted to replace them with
> alternative
> > starting batts. you may try these. I have a 1981 Eagle Model 10
with
> > a 8V71, that came from the factory with (3) group 31 batts
connected
> > in parallel, each with its own cutoff so you can check for a bad
> > batt. When I replaced these a few yrs. ago I bought the ones with
> the
> > highest amp ratings that I could find. They have lasted a lot
longer
> > than the cheap ones that the P.O. used. Good Luck, George Burke
1977
> > FC31 Charlotte
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Dan Williams
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jon, The older coaches used the same batteries for starting and
> dry
> > camping. That is really not a good idea because then you will be
> > trying to start the coach with low voltage batteries after a
night
> of
> > dry camping and that is bad for the starter. Right now I have two
8D
> > batteries plus a generator battery in my coach. It takes two 8D's
> > because one is not enough CCA to start the 8v92. Each one has
1300
> > CCA. What I would like to do, but I don't know how to do it, is
add
> > two more high amp starting batteries just for starting the engine
> and
> > separate the 8D's to be used for house batteries. That way the
> > starting batteries should always be at full voltage and the house
> > batteries can be run low and then charged by the engine
alternator.
> > I think the six volt batteries were an attempt to get more
camping
> > amp hours out of the battery bank but the bigger problem with
older
> > coaches is the single battery bank IMO.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > > 88PT38
> > > Jackson, MS
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:28 AM
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Could somebody anwer this please
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > There was a thread on here about battery's just about a week
ago
> > and I
> > >
> > > was wondering why can't you use single 12 volt batterys in our
> > > coaches? Of course they would be the type that hold a charge
for
> > > longer durations than a standard 12 volt. I would also install
> > > another set of a batterys for the generator itself. Jon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________________
> > > Windows Liveâ¢: Life without walls.
> > > http://windowslive.com/explore?
> > ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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Could somebody anwer this please - Ross - 03-01-2009 06:58
Hi, No doubt BB is looking for someone to do the work necessary. This
may be a challenge as some companies may be reluctant to be involved
in the lawsuits.
Ross
> Ross, what's going to happen to the re-call and the coaches that
were
> not upgraded?
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT 42
> 10AC
>
>
>
>
> In ,WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ross"
> >
> > For interest,the handling of the new Wanderlodges with IFS was
> > great.The new Foretravel IFS should be good,great interiors, but
> fiber
> > walls.
> > As for Newell, nice coach, but far overweight and illegal. They
> have a
> > 28,000 drive axle and run 24,000 empty.
> > Why would anyone consider that.
> > Ross 2006 LXi
> > Prevost or tent.
> > >
> > > Greg,
> > >
> > > Exactly. Newell builds a nice coach but the interior fit and
> finish
> > is nowhere near Blue Bird. The Newell advantage is handling. The
> one
> > I had was a pleasure to drive and it never porpoised like a
> > Wanderlodge. With 2/3rds of the weight under the floor, the low
> > center of gravity kept the coach relatively flat in corners and
> very
> > responsive at the wheel. The other nice thing is..I believe the
> same
> > people have always owned Newell. It's a tight, closely held
> company
> > with long-term employees and a real family atmosphere. But
there's
> no
> > perfect coach.
> > >
> > > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: Petrover1@
> > > Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:22:28 +0000
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Could somebody anwer this please
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Too much power in reserve has little value. I have a battery
bank
> > for
> > > the Bus'house with over 700 lbs of Trojan L-16's. they would
last
> > > three to four days without charge but when it comes time to
> charge
> > > you have to run the genset 4 times as long as you would have to
> > > run/charge if you were to charge once a day. My set up would be
> > great
> > > for some one like CurtS who visits the desert for a weekend at a
> > > time and the trip to and from would be charge time via the alts
> and
> > > docking shore power. the big problem with a large bank is the
> > > replacement cost. I understand all batteries are best to renew
at
> > the
> > > same time. My '90 Newell didnt hold a candle to the Wanderlodge
> as
> > > far as quality but I am kinda thinking it is time to revisit
that
> > > last american Coach for my next unit
> > > Greg ofTim&Greg
> > > 94ptCa --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, brad barton
> > > <bbartonwx@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I liked the 8-D's in our Newell. We have 4-D's in the LXi now.
> > > Only disadvantage is how heavy and awkward they are.
> > > >
> > > > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > > From: danusa@
> > > > Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:08:12 -0600
> > > > Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Could somebody anwer this
please
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > George, Really the 8D's are not expensive. I started with six
> > > Trojan golfcart batteries and a truecharge 40+ charger. Then I
> > > changed to six AGM golfcart batteries and a Xantrex RV2512GS
> > > inverter/charger. The Trojans cost me about $350 and the
Lifeline
> > > about $600. The 8D batteries are blems or refurb exide and cost
> $40
> > > each. I just now installed them so I don't have much history but
> if
> > > I get overnight camping out of them I will be happy. I will look
> > > into the group 31 batts. BTW, I used to live in Rock Hill, SC
> just
> > > south of Charlotte and was a member of the Rock Hill Civil Air
> > Patrol
> > > and EMS. I really enjoyed the people, the climate and the
> > > hospitality there a lot and I hope to get back there someday..
> > > >
> > > > Dan Williams, 88WB38, Jackson, MS
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George
> Burke
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 3:27 PM
> > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Could somebody anwer this
please
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dan, 8D batteries are usually used for starting, and I am not
> sure
> > > that they would be a good choice to use as house batteries. They
> are
> > > expensive however, and if you wanted to replace them with
> > alternative
> > > starting batts. you may try these. I have a 1981 Eagle Model 10
> with
> > > a 8V71, that came from the factory with (3) group 31 batts
> connected
> > > in parallel, each with its own cutoff so you can check for a bad
> > > batt. When I replaced these a few yrs. ago I bought the ones
with
> > the
> > > highest amp ratings that I could find. They have lasted a lot
> longer
> > > than the cheap ones that the P.O. used. Good Luck, George Burke
> 1977
> > > FC31 Charlotte
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Dan Williams
wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jon, The older coaches used the same batteries for starting
and
> > dry
> > > camping. That is really not a good idea because then you will be
> > > trying to start the coach with low voltage batteries after a
> night
> > of
> > > dry camping and that is bad for the starter. Right now I have
two
> 8D
> > > batteries plus a generator battery in my coach. It takes two
8D's
> > > because one is not enough CCA to start the 8v92. Each one has
> 1300
> > > CCA. What I would like to do, but I don't know how to do it, is
> add
> > > two more high amp starting batteries just for starting the
engine
> > and
> > > separate the 8D's to be used for house batteries. That way the
> > > starting batteries should always be at full voltage and the
house
> > > batteries can be run low and then charged by the engine
> alternator.
> > > I think the six volt batteries were an attempt to get more
> camping
> > > amp hours out of the battery bank but the bigger problem with
> older
> > > coaches is the single battery bank IMO.
> > > >
> > > > Dan
> > > > 88PT38
> > > > Jackson, MS
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:28 AM
> > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Could somebody anwer this please
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There was a thread on here about battery's just about a week
> ago
> > > and I
> > > >
> > > > was wondering why can't you use single 12 volt batterys in our
> > > > coaches? Of course they would be the type that hold a charge
> for
> > > > longer durations than a standard 12 volt. I would also install
> > > > another set of a batterys for the generator itself. Jon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > __________________________________________________________
> > > > Windows Liveâ¢: Life without walls.
> > > > http://windowslive.com/explore?
> > > ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
_________________________________________________________________
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>
Could somebody anwer this please - timvasqz - 03-01-2009 09:01
Then Tent, we gotta start buying only USA made products or demanding
USA mfg's make them as good as the Canadian makers build Prevost.
Greg
nothing against Canada, I like hocky
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ross"
wrote:
>
> For interest,the handling of the new Wanderlodges with IFS was
> great.The new Foretravel IFS should be good,great interiors, but
fiber
> walls.
> As for Newell, nice coach, but far overweight and illegal. They
have a
> 28,000 drive axle and run 24,000 empty.
> Why would anyone consider that.
> Ross 2006 LXi
> Prevost or tent.
> >
> > Greg,
> >
> > Exactly. Newell builds a nice coach but the interior fit and
finish
> is nowhere near Blue Bird. The Newell advantage is handling. The
one
> I had was a pleasure to drive and it never porpoised like a
> Wanderlodge. With 2/3rds of the weight under the floor, the low
> center of gravity kept the coach relatively flat in corners and
very
> responsive at the wheel. The other nice thing is..I believe the
same
> people have always owned Newell. It's a tight, closely held
company
> with long-term employees and a real family atmosphere. But there's
no
> perfect coach.
> >
> > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > From: Petrover1@
> > Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:22:28 +0000
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Could somebody anwer this please
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Too much power in reserve has little value. I have a battery bank
> for
> > the Bus'house with over 700 lbs of Trojan L-16's. they would last
> > three to four days without charge but when it comes time to
charge
> > you have to run the genset 4 times as long as you would have to
> > run/charge if you were to charge once a day. My set up would be
> great
> > for some one like CurtS who visits the desert for a weekend at a
> > time and the trip to and from would be charge time via the alts
and
> > docking shore power. the big problem with a large bank is the
> > replacement cost. I understand all batteries are best to renew at
> the
> > same time. My '90 Newell didnt hold a candle to the Wanderlodge
as
> > far as quality but I am kinda thinking it is time to revisit that
> > last american Coach for my next unit
> > Greg ofTim&Greg
> > 94ptCa --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, brad barton
> > <bbartonwx@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I liked the 8-D's in our Newell. We have 4-D's in the LXi now.
> > Only disadvantage is how heavy and awkward they are.
> > >
> > > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: danusa@
> > > Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:08:12 -0600
> > > Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Could somebody anwer this please
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > George, Really the 8D's are not expensive. I started with six
> > Trojan golfcart batteries and a truecharge 40+ charger. Then I
> > changed to six AGM golfcart batteries and a Xantrex RV2512GS
> > inverter/charger. The Trojans cost me about $350 and the Lifeline
> > about $600. The 8D batteries are blems or refurb exide and cost
$40
> > each. I just now installed them so I don't have much history but
if
> > I get overnight camping out of them I will be happy. I will look
> > into the group 31 batts. BTW, I used to live in Rock Hill, SC
just
> > south of Charlotte and was a member of the Rock Hill Civil Air
> Patrol
> > and EMS. I really enjoyed the people, the climate and the
> > hospitality there a lot and I hope to get back there someday..
> > >
> > > Dan Williams, 88WB38, Jackson, MS
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George
Burke
> > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 3:27 PM
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Could somebody anwer this please
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dan, 8D batteries are usually used for starting, and I am not
sure
> > that they would be a good choice to use as house batteries. They
are
> > expensive however, and if you wanted to replace them with
> alternative
> > starting batts. you may try these. I have a 1981 Eagle Model 10
with
> > a 8V71, that came from the factory with (3) group 31 batts
connected
> > in parallel, each with its own cutoff so you can check for a bad
> > batt. When I replaced these a few yrs. ago I bought the ones with
> the
> > highest amp ratings that I could find. They have lasted a lot
longer
> > than the cheap ones that the P.O. used. Good Luck, George Burke
1977
> > FC31 Charlotte
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Dan Williams
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jon, The older coaches used the same batteries for starting and
> dry
> > camping. That is really not a good idea because then you will be
> > trying to start the coach with low voltage batteries after a
night
> of
> > dry camping and that is bad for the starter. Right now I have two
8D
> > batteries plus a generator battery in my coach. It takes two 8D's
> > because one is not enough CCA to start the 8v92. Each one has
1300
> > CCA. What I would like to do, but I don't know how to do it, is
add
> > two more high amp starting batteries just for starting the engine
> and
> > separate the 8D's to be used for house batteries. That way the
> > starting batteries should always be at full voltage and the house
> > batteries can be run low and then charged by the engine
alternator.
> > I think the six volt batteries were an attempt to get more
camping
> > amp hours out of the battery bank but the bigger problem with
older
> > coaches is the single battery bank IMO.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > > 88PT38
> > > Jackson, MS
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:28 AM
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Could somebody anwer this please
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > There was a thread on here about battery's just about a week
ago
> > and I
> > >
> > > was wondering why can't you use single 12 volt batterys in our
> > > coaches? Of course they would be the type that hold a charge
for
> > > longer durations than a standard 12 volt. I would also install
> > > another set of a batterys for the generator itself. Jon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________________
> > > Windows Liveâ¢: Life without walls.
> > > http://windowslive.com/explore?
> > ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast.
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> >
>
Could somebody anwer this please - Stephen Birtles - 03-01-2009 09:34
and mci
Learn how to use a spell checker
it is hockey not hocky and cynical not synical
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "timvasqz"
>
> Then Tent, we gotta start buying only USA made products or demanding
> USA mfg's make them as good as the Canadian makers build Prevost.
> Greg
> nothing against Canada, I like hocky
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ross"
> wrote:
> >
> > For interest,the handling of the new Wanderlodges with IFS was
> > great.The new Foretravel IFS should be good,great interiors, but
> fiber
> > walls.
> > As for Newell, nice coach, but far overweight and illegal. They
> have a
> > 28,000 drive axle and run 24,000 empty.
> > Why would anyone consider that.
> > Ross 2006 LXi
> > Prevost or tent.
> > >
> > > Greg,
> > >
> > > Exactly. Newell builds a nice coach but the interior fit and
> finish
> > is nowhere near Blue Bird. The Newell advantage is handling. The
> one
> > I had was a pleasure to drive and it never porpoised like a
> > Wanderlodge. With 2/3rds of the weight under the floor, the low
> > center of gravity kept the coach relatively flat in corners and
> very
> > responsive at the wheel. The other nice thing is..I believe the
> same
> > people have always owned Newell. It's a tight, closely held
> company
> > with long-term employees and a real family atmosphere. But there's
> no
> > perfect coach.
> > >
> > > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: Petrover1@
> > > Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:22:28 +0000
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Could somebody anwer this please
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Too much power in reserve has little value. I have a battery bank
> > for
> > > the Bus'house with over 700 lbs of Trojan L-16's. they would last
> > > three to four days without charge but when it comes time to
> charge
> > > you have to run the genset 4 times as long as you would have to
> > > run/charge if you were to charge once a day. My set up would be
> > great
> > > for some one like CurtS who visits the desert for a weekend at a
> > > time and the trip to and from would be charge time via the alts
> and
> > > docking shore power. the big problem with a large bank is the
> > > replacement cost. I understand all batteries are best to renew at
> > the
> > > same time. My '90 Newell didnt hold a candle to the Wanderlodge
> as
> > > far as quality but I am kinda thinking it is time to revisit that
> > > last american Coach for my next unit
> > > Greg ofTim&Greg
> > > 94ptCa --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, brad barton
> > > <bbartonwx@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I liked the 8-D's in our Newell. We have 4-D's in the LXi now.
> > > Only disadvantage is how heavy and awkward they are.
> > > >
> > > > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > > From: danusa@
> > > > Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:08:12 -0600
> > > > Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Could somebody anwer this please
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > George, Really the 8D's are not expensive. I started with six
> > > Trojan golfcart batteries and a truecharge 40+ charger. Then I
> > > changed to six AGM golfcart batteries and a Xantrex RV2512GS
> > > inverter/charger. The Trojans cost me about $350 and the Lifeline
> > > about $600. The 8D batteries are blems or refurb exide and cost
> $40
> > > each. I just now installed them so I don't have much history but
> if
> > > I get overnight camping out of them I will be happy. I will look
> > > into the group 31 batts. BTW, I used to live in Rock Hill, SC
> just
> > > south of Charlotte and was a member of the Rock Hill Civil Air
> > Patrol
> > > and EMS. I really enjoyed the people, the climate and the
> > > hospitality there a lot and I hope to get back there someday..
> > > >
> > > > Dan Williams, 88WB38, Jackson, MS
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George
> Burke
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 3:27 PM
> > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Could somebody anwer this please
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dan, 8D batteries are usually used for starting, and I am not
> sure
> > > that they would be a good choice to use as house batteries. They
> are
> > > expensive however, and if you wanted to replace them with
> > alternative
> > > starting batts. you may try these. I have a 1981 Eagle Model 10
> with
> > > a 8V71, that came from the factory with (3) group 31 batts
> connected
> > > in parallel, each with its own cutoff so you can check for a bad
> > > batt. When I replaced these a few yrs. ago I bought the ones with
> > the
> > > highest amp ratings that I could find. They have lasted a lot
> longer
> > > than the cheap ones that the P.O. used. Good Luck, George Burke
> 1977
> > > FC31 Charlotte
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Dan Williams
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jon, The older coaches used the same batteries for starting and
> > dry
> > > camping. That is really not a good idea because then you will be
> > > trying to start the coach with low voltage batteries after a
> night
> > of
> > > dry camping and that is bad for the starter. Right now I have two
> 8D
> > > batteries plus a generator battery in my coach. It takes two 8D's
> > > because one is not enough CCA to start the 8v92. Each one has
> 1300
> > > CCA. What I would like to do, but I don't know how to do it, is
> add
> > > two more high amp starting batteries just for starting the engine
> > and
> > > separate the 8D's to be used for house batteries. That way the
> > > starting batteries should always be at full voltage and the house
> > > batteries can be run low and then charged by the engine
> alternator.
> > > I think the six volt batteries were an attempt to get more
> camping
> > > amp hours out of the battery bank but the bigger problem with
> older
> > > coaches is the single battery bank IMO.
> > > >
> > > > Dan
> > > > 88PT38
> > > > Jackson, MS
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:28 AM
> > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Could somebody anwer this please
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There was a thread on here about battery's just about a week
> ago
> > > and I
> > > >
> > > > was wondering why can't you use single 12 volt batterys in our
> > > > coaches? Of course they would be the type that hold a charge
> for
> > > > longer durations than a standard 12 volt. I would also install
> > > > another set of a batterys for the generator itself. Jon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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