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Ultraguard Mud flap - Pete Masterson - 03-17-2009 06:24

I don't know if a flap can really do much about the oil ... it's in small droplets or mist as it comes out of the slobber tubes, so it moves around in the air flow at the rear of the coach. Some with the Series 60 have rerouted the end point of the breather tube to exit on the curb side -- that would help, but its mostly intended to reduce the amount of 'stuff' pulled through the radiator. One Series 60 owner purchased a special filter and canister system that completely eliminates the oily mist... but the modification was a little more expensive than I'd want to pay (I don't know if such a system is available for the 8V92). I figures I could buy a lot of car washes for the thousand bucks...
Flap will help some on the rocks thrown up by the rear wheels ... although those thrown to the side can always take a bad bounce and end up hitting the toad.
No flap was on my coach when I got it... I believe that the typical requirement is for wheel flaps to control rain spray. Most states indicate some amount of the tire that must be covered by fenders and/or flaps. The flaps made of bristles (like a big broom) are intended primarily as rain-spray reducers.
Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 (For Sale)
El Sobrante CA
"aeonix1@mac.com"
On Mar 16, 2009, at 6:40 PM, jburgessx2 wrote:

Don,

Well, I was hoping the extra long flap would curtail some of the oil - that's to bad. Thanks for letting me know. I might still get one because it probably will cut down on the rocks - couldn't hurt anyways. And, maybe it will keep some of the oil off the toad and coach.

Jerry
85 PT40
Port Huemene, CA

--- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com", "Scott Forman" <scottforman75@...> wrote:
I have one on my PT38, was on there when I got the coach. Does not have any brand name on it. I still get oil on the back of the coach and toad.
Scott Forman
86 PT38
Memphis
--- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com", "jburgessx2" wrote:
Brad,
I was more curious on whether or not people used them and there was one in particular that worked better on a PT40. I've seen some pretty good ones advertised on the internet and was hoping to get something tested and true by Wanderlodge users.
Jerry
85 PT40
Port Hueneme, CA


Ultraguard Mud flap - Kurt Horvath - 03-17-2009 06:39

The Walker system is a glorified catch can.
The Racor is an enclosed system the sucks the vapors from the slobber tube port
through a filter. Then the volatile gasses are returned in the fresh air intake
to be burnt in the motor, any filtered oil is returned to the crankcase. Racor
CCV $350.00 plus some time. If you need a fix on the cheap. a gallon metal can
with a crankcase breather attached at the end of a slobber tube will work, but
that's your call..

Kurt Horvath
95 PT 42
10AC

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Wright wrote:
>
> Didn't somebody here build a cheap PVC system to catch the oil?
>
> -Ryan
> '86 PT-40 8V92
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
> >
> > Here's a few links if your interested in CCV
> >
> > http://www.parker.com/racor/pdf/7480G/pdf/Section08.pdf
> > http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FZX/is_n8_v64/ai_21099667/pg_1
> > http://www.walkerairsep.com/
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
>

Ultraguard Mud flap - ronmarabito2002 - 03-17-2009 10:45

My 8V92 doesn't throw any oil either.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner" wrote:
>
> It would be interesting to hear from other 90-and-later 8V92 owners besids
Leroy and myself. I don't know why our engines (Leroy's and mine) don't throw a
lot of oil, but I know that by 1990 Detroit was well into things designed to
reduce the pollution from that engine.
>
> On 3/17/2009 at 12:16 PM Scott Forman wrote:
>
> >Don,
> >
> >Unless you have installed some sort of CCV system, this is not normal.
> >You may have clogged airbox drains. The engine is designed to slobber.
> >If it can't breathe, there can be probems,
> >
> >Scott Forman
> >86 PT38
> >Memphis
> >
> >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner"
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> My 8V92 doesn't throw oil, happy to say!
>

Ultraguard Mud flap - jburgessx2 - 03-17-2009 13:56

Well, I appreciate all of the input from the forum on this matter. The
differing opinions and points of view are perfect for someone like me who needs
to weigh the pros and cons and choose a course of action.

This forum in invaluable and I truly thank you for the advice.

Jerry
85 PT40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt Horvath" wrote:
>
>
> The Walker system is a glorified catch can.
> The Racor is an enclosed system the sucks the vapors from the slobber tube
port through a filter. Then the volatile gasses are returned in the fresh air
intake to be burnt in the motor, any filtered oil is returned to the crankcase.
Racor CCV $350.00 plus some time. If you need a fix on the cheap. a gallon metal
can with a crankcase breather attached at the end of a slobber tube will work,
but that's your call..
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT 42
> 10AC
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Wright wrote:
> >
> > Didn't somebody here build a cheap PVC system to catch the oil?
> >
> > -Ryan
> > '86 PT-40 8V92
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
> > >
> > > Here's a few links if your interested in CCV
> > >
> > > http://www.parker.com/racor/pdf/7480G/pdf/Section08.pdf
> > > http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FZX/is_n8_v64/ai_21099667/pg_1
> > > http://www.walkerairsep.com/
> > >
> > > Kurt Horvath
> >
>

Ultraguard Mud flap - timvasqz - 03-17-2009 14:35

low humidity? my detroit drips very little
Greg
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <scottforman75@...>
wrote:
>
> Don,
>
> Unless you have installed some sort of CCV system, this is not normal. You
may have clogged airbox drains. The engine is designed to slobber. If it can't
breathe, there can be probems,
>
> Scott Forman
> 86 PT38
> Memphis
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner" wrote:
> >
> > My 8V92 doesn't throw oil, happy to say!
> >
> > On 3/17/2009 at 1:40 AM jburgessx2 wrote:
> >
> > >Don,
> > >
> > >Well, I was hoping the extra long flap would curtail some of the oil -
> > >that's to bad. Thanks for letting me know. I might still get one because
> > >it probably will cut down on the rocks - couldn't hurt anyways. And,
> > >maybe it will keep some of the oil off the toad and coach.
> > >
> > >Jerry
> > >85 PT40
> > >Port Huemene, CA
> > >
> > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman"
> > ><scottforman75@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I have one on my PT38, was on there when I got the coach. Does not have
> > >any brand name on it. I still get oil on the back of the coach and toad.
> > >>
> > >> Scott Forman
> > >> 86 PT38
> > >> Memphis
> > >>
> > >> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "jburgessx2"
> > >wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Brad,
> > >> >
> > >> > I was more curious on whether or not people used them and there was
> > >one in particular that worked better on a PT40. I've seen some pretty
> > >good ones advertised on the internet and was hoping to get something
> > >tested and true by Wanderlodge users.
> > >> >
> > >> > Jerry
> > >> > 85 PT40
> > >> > Port Hueneme, CA
> > >> >
> > >> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, brad barton <bbartonwx@>
> > >wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > If you want Blue Bird Wanderlodge printed on the back, I can't help
> > >you, but Camping World has them.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> >
>http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/product/rock-solid-protective-guards/1450
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > >> > > From: jburgessx2@
> > >> > > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:35:10 +0000
> > >> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Ultraguard Mud flap
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Does anyone have one of those long mud flag/rock guards on their
> > >PT40? Mine doesn't have one but it seems it may be helpful in keeping the
> > >rocks and oil off the toad. As I mentioned before, the oil from the
> > >Detroit seems to end up on the back of the coach and/or toad and I would
> > >like to cut that down.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > If you use one, what do you recommend for an 85 PT40?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > As always, I appreciate the knowledge and help on this board.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Jerry
> > >> > > 85 PT40
> > >> > > Port Hueneme, CA
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Ultraguard Mud flap - Wayne Kotila - 03-17-2009 18:22

I have a 1985 PT40 with a 6V92 and I drip a few drops of oil out of the drip tubes sometimes when I stop but I never have any signs of oil on the back of the bus or on my tow vehicle.
Wayne


From: Don Bradner
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:00:48 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Ultraguard Mud flap




It would be interesting to hear from other 90-and-later 8V92 owners besids Leroy and myself. I don't know why our engines (Leroy's and mine) don't throw a lot of oil, but I know that by 1990 Detroit was well into things designed to reduce the pollution from that engine.

On 3/17/2009 at 12:16 PM Scott Forman wrote:

>Don,
>
>Unless you have installed some sort of CCV system, this is not normal.
>You may have clogged airbox drains. The engine is designed to slobber.
>If it can't breathe, there can be probems,
>
>Scott Forman
>86 PT38
>Memphis
>
>--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Don Bradner"
>wrote:
>>
>> My 8V92 doesn't throw oil, happy to
say!



Ultraguard Mud flap - Hugh Turner - 03-19-2009 02:46

Jerry
I have the solid one it was with the coach when I bought it. I have the 6v silver all mechanical I do have some leaks I get an oily film on the back and on the trailer. We recently replaced the line on the Rt side air drain the check valve was stuck still have to do the lt side. You may want to check you's rt side PIA due to the starter in the way you 8v may be a little bit easier

Hugh & Lexie Turner
1984 Wanderlodge PT 40�PAPA'S MAGIC BUS�
FMCA F393612 Bluebird Chapter
Good Sam Life Member 057729600
Thomaston, Ga 30286
hturner12@... / ford10076@...


Ultraguard Mud flap - Rob Robinson - 03-19-2009 04:28

Several years ago I heard about a fellow who got divorced over his love of Detroit Diesel engines. Apparently the second to last straw was when he framed and hung a picture of an 8V92 in his living room. When asked what was the final reason for his divorce he said....."wife was unhappy with the picture but blew a gasket when the damn thing started to leak oil"......all DD and British Motorcycle engines perspire oil.



2009/3/19 Hugh Turner <"ford10076@yahoo.com">




Jerry
I have the solid one it was with the coach when I bought it. I have the 6v silver all mechanical I do have some leaks I get an oily film on the back and on the trailer. We recently replaced the line on the Rt side air drain the check valve was stuck still have to do the lt side. You may want to check you's rt side PIA due to the starter in the way you 8v may be a little bit easier 



Hugh & Lexie Turner
1984 Wanderlodge PT 40�PAPA'S MAGIC BUS�

FMCA F393612 Bluebird Chapter
Good Sam Life Member 057729600
Thomaston, Ga 30286
"hturner12@charter.net" / "ford10076@yahoo.com"



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