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Rally in our "own Valley - George Lowry - 05-06-2005 08:56
Well, Mike, At the WMHA Rally in Indio this past January, we paid $80
plus another $25 if we wanted electricity (30 amp). This included
three nights of name entertainment but no meals. (except for the
volunteer dinner) Even had John Davidson (You young fellows won't
remember him) We did have approximately 1700 coaches and LOTS of
volunteers. The wife & I drove a tram for two hours every morning and
had a ball. Met a lot of folks that way. They had more seminars than
you had time to attend...
George Lowry
'95 WBDA 4203 & GM 4106 (for sale)
Spearfish, SD
>
> Pretty simple, don't go where your aren't wanted. If 500 bucks
> tightens your back side, the powers that be are getting the desired
> effect. I suspect it's like that at Indio and other high end
> destinations. Some people like to hang with peers of a like net
> worth level. Or something. Nothing wrong with bein' trailer
> trash. Mike Hohnstein -----
>
>
Rally in our "own Valley - ronmarabito2002 - 05-06-2005 09:06
Randy:
I agree with much of what you say. Much of the fall off of
vendor support could be coming from the fact that, they sell more
merchandise via web-sites than they do from attending shows. A
whole lot cheaper, I might add.
I too cannot see the value as I've tried to convey. I can afford
it, but I just won't pay the fare.
Thanks for contributing your point of view.
R.E. (Ron) Marabito, dallas, TX 92WB40
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, randydupree
wrote:
> ron.as a vendor at FMCA for many years i watched the price of
vending go up each and every event.it was way too high to break
even,back when i first started showing my wares at fmca
conventions.i wrote letters to fmca,a chapter for vendors was
started,all to try to keep the cost down so we could continue to
vend at there conventions.the cost continuded to go up and i stopped
working at the fmca conventions.their feelings were that they sold
out all the space at every show,so why keep the cost down?there was
always someone else waiting for my spot if i didnt want it.i know of
several other manufacture's that don't attend for the same
reason,too much money! i guess that the people at BB think that 500
bucks is not very much money for someone that owns a bird.too me,its
not the amount of money,its what you get for the money.and the riv
is not worth $500 to me,and i really think BB will not get that its
too much money until we don't show up there..randydupree93wb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ronmarabito2002
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:25 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley
>
>
> It wouldn't serve any usefull purpose to alienate ourselves from
> Wanderlodge. We have nothing to gain by doing this. We need to
> simply make Management understand that: It's not worth it and
they
> need to re-think their pricing and where the value is.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> Moderator
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Mark Garber
> wrote:
> > How about a banner saying Blue Bird Beatniks or Blue Bird
Brats
> leading into the campground?
> >
> > Mark, 80FC35 in PA with the Blue Bird Beatnik paint scheme
from
> the factory.
> >
> >
> > randydupree
> > trailer trash?(VBG!) haha! randydupree 93wb in fl
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mike Hohnstein
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 1:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley
> >
> >
> > Pretty simple, don't go where your aren't wanted. If 500
bucks
> tightens your back side, the powers that be are getting the
desired
> effect. I suspect it's like that at Indio and other high end
> destinations. Some people like to hang with peers of a like net
> worth level. Or something. Nothing wrong with bein' trailer
trash.
> > Mike Hohnstein
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: George Lowry
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:04 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own
Valley
> >
> >
> > I don't know how many of the forum members are also
members of
> the
> > FMCA Bluebird Chapter but I am beginning to have concerns.
It
> appears
> > that the Chapter is allowing Bluebird to run things. Costs
for
> all the
> > rallies are WAY out of line for what the costs are in
other
> chapters.
> > It appears that Bluebird/ bluebird chapter is trying to
price
> out the
> > lower income folks. Is it for snobs only?
> >
> > We just has a rally in another chapter at Cal Expo, one of
the
> better
> > parks around Sacramento ant the total cost for the
largest,
> best site
> > including the meals only came to $80. True there was some
> volunteer
> > work. I am certain that Bluebirders aren't afraid to get
> their hands
> > dirty if necessary.
> >
> > Last year I inquired as to why Bluebird was charging $250
for
> a three
> > day rally when FMCA international rallies are only $99.
And
> the FMCA
> > rallies include three nights of name entertainment. The
> response was
> > the cost of meals. They said that they figured $25 per
meal
> per
> > person. Now I have been living in a much higher cost of
living
> area
> > (CA) and the last catered meal we had cost only $17 per
person
> > including gratuity and tax, and included four kinds of
meat,
> four
> > different kinds of beans, and other items including
drinks.
> Everyone
> > had more food than they could eat.
> >
> > On top of this, the Bluebird Chapter has decided to
> drastically
> > increase their dues this year. We have come to the
decision
> that
> > Bluebird doesn't want us as members nor do they want us to
> upgrade to
> > a newer coach.
> >
> > We currently belong to six different chapters. Bluebird
has
> > consistently been the most expensive by a factor of 3 - 5.
I
> was under
> > the impression that Bluebird was helping the Bluebird
Chapter
> with
> > some of their expenses as an advertising expense. It more
> appears
> > that their old customers are being used as a method of
added
> income to
> > feed corporate greed. Perhaps I have just been around
> organized
> > rallies for two long.
> >
> > If there is anyone on the forum that is an officer of the
> Bluebird
> > Chapter, I would appreciate their input.
> >
> > George Lowry
> > '95 WBDA 4203 & GM 4106 (for sale)
> > Spearfish, SD
> >
> >
> >
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Rally in our "own Valley - randydupree - 05-06-2005 09:15
internet sales are good,but,when you sell stuff to coach builders like
newel,BB,royal coach its good to be at a show as tech support for them. thats
the important thing,supporting your products.. randydupree93wb in fl
----- Original Message -----
From: ronmarabito2002
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 5:06 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley
Randy:
I agree with much of what you say. Much of the fall off of
vendor support could be coming from the fact that, they sell more
merchandise via web-sites than they do from attending shows. A
whole lot cheaper, I might add.
I too cannot see the value as I've tried to convey. I can afford
it, but I just won't pay the fare.
Thanks for contributing your point of view.
R.E. (Ron) Marabito, dallas, TX 92WB40
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, randydupree
wrote:
> ron.as a vendor at FMCA for many years i watched the price of
vending go up each and every event.it was way too high to break
even,back when i first started showing my wares at fmca
conventions.i wrote letters to fmca,a chapter for vendors was
started,all to try to keep the cost down so we could continue to
vend at there conventions.the cost continuded to go up and i stopped
working at the fmca conventions.their feelings were that they sold
out all the space at every show,so why keep the cost down?there was
always someone else waiting for my spot if i didnt want it.i know of
several other manufacture's that don't attend for the same
reason,too much money! i guess that the people at BB think that 500
bucks is not very much money for someone that owns a bird.too me,its
not the amount of money,its what you get for the money.and the riv
is not worth $500 to me,and i really think BB will not get that its
too much money until we don't show up there..randydupree93wb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ronmarabito2002
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:25 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley
>
>
> It wouldn't serve any usefull purpose to alienate ourselves from
> Wanderlodge. We have nothing to gain by doing this. We need to
> simply make Management understand that: It's not worth it and
they
> need to re-think their pricing and where the value is.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> Moderator
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Mark Garber
> wrote:
> > How about a banner saying Blue Bird Beatniks or Blue Bird
Brats
> leading into the campground?
> >
> > Mark, 80FC35 in PA with the Blue Bird Beatnik paint scheme
from
> the factory.
> >
> >
> > randydupree
> > trailer trash?(VBG!) haha! randydupree 93wb in fl
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mike Hohnstein
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 1:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley
> >
> >
> > Pretty simple, don't go where your aren't wanted. If 500
bucks
> tightens your back side, the powers that be are getting the
desired
> effect. I suspect it's like that at Indio and other high end
> destinations. Some people like to hang with peers of a like net
> worth level. Or something. Nothing wrong with bein' trailer
trash.
> > Mike Hohnstein
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: George Lowry
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:04 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own
Valley
> >
> >
> > I don't know how many of the forum members are also
members of
> the
> > FMCA Bluebird Chapter but I am beginning to have concerns.
It
> appears
> > that the Chapter is allowing Bluebird to run things. Costs
for
> all the
> > rallies are WAY out of line for what the costs are in
other
> chapters.
> > It appears that Bluebird/ bluebird chapter is trying to
price
> out the
> > lower income folks. Is it for snobs only?
> >
> > We just has a rally in another chapter at Cal Expo, one of
the
> better
> > parks around Sacramento ant the total cost for the
largest,
> best site
> > including the meals only came to $80. True there was some
> volunteer
> > work. I am certain that Bluebirders aren't afraid to get
> their hands
> > dirty if necessary.
> >
> > Last year I inquired as to why Bluebird was charging $250
for
> a three
> > day rally when FMCA international rallies are only $99.
And
> the FMCA
> > rallies include three nights of name entertainment. The
> response was
> > the cost of meals. They said that they figured $25 per
meal
> per
> > person. Now I have been living in a much higher cost of
living
> area
> > (CA) and the last catered meal we had cost only $17 per
person
> > including gratuity and tax, and included four kinds of
meat,
> four
> > different kinds of beans, and other items including
drinks.
> Everyone
> > had more food than they could eat.
> >
> > On top of this, the Bluebird Chapter has decided to
> drastically
> > increase their dues this year. We have come to the
decision
> that
> > Bluebird doesn't want us as members nor do they want us to
> upgrade to
> > a newer coach.
> >
> > We currently belong to six different chapters. Bluebird
has
> > consistently been the most expensive by a factor of 3 - 5.
I
> was under
> > the impression that Bluebird was helping the Bluebird
Chapter
> with
> > some of their expenses as an advertising expense. It more
> appears
> > that their old customers are being used as a method of
added
> income to
> > feed corporate greed. Perhaps I have just been around
> organized
> > rallies for two long.
> >
> > If there is anyone on the forum that is an officer of the
> Bluebird
> > Chapter, I would appreciate their input.
> >
> > George Lowry
> > '95 WBDA 4203 & GM 4106 (for sale)
> > Spearfish, SD
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Rally in our "own Valley - ronmarabito2002 - 05-06-2005 10:11
You have a good point there Randy.
Ron
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, randydupree
wrote:
> internet sales are good,but,when you sell stuff to coach builders
like newel,BB,royal coach its good to be at a show as tech support
for them. thats the important thing,supporting your products..
randydupree93wb in fl
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ronmarabito2002
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 5:06 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley
>
>
> Randy:
>
> I agree with much of what you say. Much of the fall off of
> vendor support could be coming from the fact that, they sell
more
> merchandise via web-sites than they do from attending shows. A
> whole lot cheaper, I might add.
>
> I too cannot see the value as I've tried to convey. I can
afford
> it, but I just won't pay the fare.
>
> Thanks for contributing your point of view.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, dallas, TX 92WB40
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, randydupree
> wrote:
> > ron.as a vendor at FMCA for many years i watched the price of
> vending go up each and every event.it was way too high to break
> even,back when i first started showing my wares at fmca
> conventions.i wrote letters to fmca,a chapter for vendors was
> started,all to try to keep the cost down so we could continue to
> vend at there conventions.the cost continuded to go up and i
stopped
> working at the fmca conventions.their feelings were that they
sold
> out all the space at every show,so why keep the cost down?there
was
> always someone else waiting for my spot if i didnt want it.i
know of
> several other manufacture's that don't attend for the same
> reason,too much money! i guess that the people at BB think that
500
> bucks is not very much money for someone that owns a bird.too
me,its
> not the amount of money,its what you get for the money.and the
riv
> is not worth $500 to me,and i really think BB will not get that
its
> too much money until we don't show up there..randydupree93wb
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: ronmarabito2002
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:25 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley
> >
> >
> > It wouldn't serve any usefull purpose to alienate ourselves
from
> > Wanderlodge. We have nothing to gain by doing this. We
need to
> > simply make Management understand that: It's not worth it
and
> they
> > need to re-think their pricing and where the value is.
> >
> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> > Moderator
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Mark Garber
>
> > wrote:
> > > How about a banner saying Blue Bird Beatniks or Blue Bird
> Brats
> > leading into the campground?
> > >
> > > Mark, 80FC35 in PA with the Blue Bird Beatnik paint scheme
> from
> > the factory.
> > >
> > >
> > > randydupree
> > > trailer trash?(VBG!) haha! randydupree 93wb in fl
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Mike Hohnstein
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 1:53 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own
Valley
> > >
> > >
> > > Pretty simple, don't go where your aren't wanted. If
500
> bucks
> > tightens your back side, the powers that be are getting the
> desired
> > effect. I suspect it's like that at Indio and other high
end
> > destinations. Some people like to hang with peers of a like
net
> > worth level. Or something. Nothing wrong with bein'
trailer
> trash.
> > > Mike Hohnstein
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: George Lowry
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:04 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own
> Valley
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't know how many of the forum members are also
> members of
> > the
> > > FMCA Bluebird Chapter but I am beginning to have
concerns.
> It
> > appears
> > > that the Chapter is allowing Bluebird to run things.
Costs
> for
> > all the
> > > rallies are WAY out of line for what the costs are in
> other
> > chapters.
> > > It appears that Bluebird/ bluebird chapter is trying
to
> price
> > out the
> > > lower income folks. Is it for snobs only?
> > >
> > > We just has a rally in another chapter at Cal Expo,
one of
> the
> > better
> > > parks around Sacramento ant the total cost for the
> largest,
> > best site
> > > including the meals only came to $80. True there was
some
> > volunteer
> > > work. I am certain that Bluebirders aren't afraid to
get
> > their hands
> > > dirty if necessary.
> > >
> > > Last year I inquired as to why Bluebird was charging
$250
> for
> > a three
> > > day rally when FMCA international rallies are only
$99.
> And
> > the FMCA
> > > rallies include three nights of name entertainment.
The
> > response was
> > > the cost of meals. They said that they figured $25
per
> meal
> > per
> > > person. Now I have been living in a much higher cost
of
> living
> > area
> > > (CA) and the last catered meal we had cost only $17
per
> person
> > > including gratuity and tax, and included four kinds of
> meat,
> > four
> > > different kinds of beans, and other items including
> drinks.
> > Everyone
> > > had more food than they could eat.
> > >
> > > On top of this, the Bluebird Chapter has decided to
> > drastically
> > > increase their dues this year. We have come to the
> decision
> > that
> > > Bluebird doesn't want us as members nor do they want
us to
> > upgrade to
> > > a newer coach.
> > >
> > > We currently belong to six different chapters.
Bluebird
> has
> > > consistently been the most expensive by a factor of 3 -
5.
> I
> > was under
> > > the impression that Bluebird was helping the Bluebird
> Chapter
> > with
> > > some of their expenses as an advertising expense. It
more
> > appears
> > > that their old customers are being used as a method of
> added
> > income to
> > > feed corporate greed. Perhaps I have just been around
> > organized
> > > rallies for two long.
> > >
> > > If there is anyone on the forum that is an officer of
the
> > Bluebird
> > > Chapter, I would appreciate their input.
> > >
> > > George Lowry
> > > '95 WBDA 4203 & GM 4106 (for sale)
> > > Spearfish, SD
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Rally in our "own Valley - Blair - 05-06-2005 10:49
Randy,
Lynn and I have decided to volunteer our special talents and
experience to Bluebird to show them how
to put on a four to five day event, full meals, wet bar and all the fun you
can handle all for $200 or less.
What do you think? Blair who is flabbergasted at the cost they're charging
At 12:49 PM 5/6/2005, you wrote:
>ron.as a vendor at FMCA for many years i watched the price of vending go
>up each and every event.it was way too high to break even,back when i
>first started showing my wares at fmca conventions.i wrote letters to
>fmca,a chapter for vendors was started,all to try to keep the cost down so
>we could continue to vend at there conventions.the cost continuded to go
>up and i stopped working at the fmca conventions.their feelings were that
>they sold out all the space at every show,so why keep the cost down?there
>was always someone else waiting for my spot if i didnt want it.i know of
>several other manufacture's that don't attend for the same reason,too much
>money! i guess that the people at BB think that 500 bucks is not very much
>money for someone that owns a bird.too me,its not the amount of money,its
>what you get for the money.and the riv is not worth $500 to me,and i
>really think BB will not get that its too much money until we don't show
>up there..randydupree93wb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ronmarabito2002
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:25 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley
>
>
> It wouldn't serve any usefull purpose to alienate ourselves from
> Wanderlodge. We have nothing to gain by doing this. We need to
> simply make Management understand that: It's not worth it and they
> need to re-think their pricing and where the value is.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> Moderator
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Mark Garber
> wrote:
> > How about a banner saying Blue Bird Beatniks or Blue Bird Brats
> leading into the campground?
> >
> > Mark, 80FC35 in PA with the Blue Bird Beatnik paint scheme from
> the factory.
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> > randydupree
> > trailer trash?(VBG!) haha! randydupree 93wb in fl
> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 1:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley
> >
> >
> > Pretty simple, don't go where your aren't wanted. If 500 bucks
> tightens your back side, the powers that be are getting the desired
> effect. I suspect it's like that at Indio and other high end
> destinations. Some people like to hang with peers of a like net
> worth level. Or something. Nothing wrong with bein' trailer trash.
> > Mike Hohnstein
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: George Lowry
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:04 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley
> >
> >
> > I don't know how many of the forum members are also members of
> the
> > FMCA Bluebird Chapter but I am beginning to have concerns. It
> appears
> > that the Chapter is allowing Bluebird to run things. Costs for
> all the
> > rallies are WAY out of line for what the costs are in other
> chapters.
> > It appears that Bluebird/ bluebird chapter is trying to price
> out the
> > lower income folks. Is it for snobs only?
> >
> > We just has a rally in another chapter at Cal Expo, one of the
> better
> > parks around Sacramento ant the total cost for the largest,
> best site
> > including the meals only came to $80. True there was some
> volunteer
> > work. I am certain that Bluebirders aren't afraid to get
> their hands
> > dirty if necessary.
> >
> > Last year I inquired as to why Bluebird was charging $250 for
> a three
> > day rally when FMCA international rallies are only $99. And
> the FMCA
> > rallies include three nights of name entertainment. The
> response was
> > the cost of meals. They said that they figured $25 per meal
> per
> > person. Now I have been living in a much higher cost of living
> area
> > (CA) and the last catered meal we had cost only $17 per person
> > including gratuity and tax, and included four kinds of meat,
> four
> > different kinds of beans, and other items including drinks.
> Everyone
> > had more food than they could eat.
> >
> > On top of this, the Bluebird Chapter has decided to
> drastically
> > increase their dues this year. We have come to the decision
> that
> > Bluebird doesn't want us as members nor do they want us to
> upgrade to
> > a newer coach.
> >
> > We currently belong to six different chapters. Bluebird has
> > consistently been the most expensive by a factor of 3 - 5. I
> was under
> > the impression that Bluebird was helping the Bluebird Chapter
> with
> > some of their expenses as an advertising expense. It more
> appears
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> income to
> > feed corporate greed. Perhaps I have just been around
> organized
> > rallies for two long.
> >
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> Bluebird
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> > Spearfish, SD
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Rally in our "own Valley - George Lowry - 05-06-2005 11:07
Hi Rich,
I have had those moments of weakness also. Our first - we were
supposed to be assistant trail boss while the trail boss would teach
us all we needed to know. At the last moment, because of both health
and legal problems, the trail boss had to withdraw and we were stuck
with putting it on. Over 60 coaches. As I recall, Friday night we
had "heavy Hors d'oeurves" and Sat night was a pot luck and lots of
fun the whole weekend. (Have you noticed how either the steering
wheel gets larger or the seat scoots up towards it after such a rally)
It was dry camping at something like $5/night.
One of the most expensive we attended was the Golden Gate Thanksgiving
extravaganza in Medera, CA. Used to draw anywhere from 400 - 600
coaches. Went from Wed thru Sunday. Four large meals, and eat - eat -
eat. And that was less than $100 for two.
At our last rally, parking went up to $28/night but included 50 amp
power, water, sewer, the use of the clubhouse and laundry facilities
if needed. Since there are still working people, many rallies are a
Friday, Saturday, Sunday affair with arrivals on Friday and departures
on Sunday. that means only two night of camping.... We were still able
to bring that in at $80 for two and that included a pot luck on
Friday, Sat. Breakfast (see below), Sat Dinner of Beef stew, Salad,
and rolls, and Sunday continental breakfast.
I think that pot lucks are a great thing. You get a great variety of
food and everyone participates. And the food is normally better than
store bought or catered. Have as many as you want or the members will
stand.
Regarding your specific questions:
Two to three nights is what we normally see.
Entertainment is talking to other owners and swapping lies. Very few
get to interact otherwise.
WE have a BYOB happy hour and some bring their wine etc. Some do not
drink at all. Personally I would object to having to pay for someone
else to get drunk.
When we attended a rally at Pahrump, NV and a tour was arranged at
Sherrie's Bordello, we just carpooled over there. Interestingly the
women were more interested than the men. Most everyone has a toad and
carpooling is very inexpensive.
Who will help? In our experience, almost everyone that is able. We
have had to turn away help or spread it out so everyone got a chance.
We have found that since we help or volunteer, we enjoy the
festivities much more.
Shopping for an economic campground that welcomes groups and does
things like including the use of a clubhouse, etc. helps to keep costs
down. Making it a fun get together instead of a formal "wait on me"
operation goes a long way. We are attending a rally towards the end
of this month where the total cost of the rally for two is $50. This
includes Friday Ice Cream Social, Saturday morning Eggs N' a bag,
Saturday Dinner, and Sunday Continental Breakfast. It is dry camping
though. BTW, Have you ever had oatmeal topped with ice cream and
cinnamon? Terrific AND low cost. We have many ideas for terrific low
cost meals.
BTW, a couple of years ago we got some Maine lobster and it was not
good. Better would be to go to the boats, but some chicken lobsters,
Get out some large pots and do your own. Cost will be much less and
quality will be much better.
These are some ideas. If dealers or manufacturers want to give a
presentation, let them. Might even include the competition. I BB
sees another manufacturer pitching their former customers, they might
wake up.
my $.02
George Lowry
'95 WBDA 4203 & GM 4106 (for sale)
Spearfish, SD
g_man1146 wrote:
> Hi George, and everyone.
>
> I, in a moment of weakness, volunteered to run a rally for the Blue
> Bird Chapter in September, '06. The lower Maine coast is the
> proposed location. Other BB Chapter rallies were getting to be near
> the $600.00 range, way, way too high, IMO. In speaking to Brenda
> regarding this, she indicated that they wanted to cut back the cost
> of these rallies. Chapter recommendations are for full hookup sites
> in an area of interest and from what I've found so far, 4 nights is
> going to cost about $100.00 (Going rates are $35.00/night less group
> discounts) for the site alone. Dry camping is available away from
> town and for much less. The above is for ocean view, full hookup
> sites and full use of the campgrounds amenities. I'm thinking along
> the lines of a couple of dinners,(got to have lobster)that are
> catered or at a local restaurant plus breakfasts that are supplied
> by volunteer labor. Sightseeing, Summer theater, whale watching,
> cruise, etc. are all possible but add to the cost. Many free things
> to do in the area too.
>
> My questions, and request for input from all Bird owners, regardless
> of year or model, are:
> What should be included?
> How many nights?
> Meals? Restaurants or on site?
> Entertainment?
> Cocktail parties?
> Transportation to events?
> Who will help?
> How can we keep costs down?
>
> In the past, dealers and the factory have kicked in to provide a
> meal or a cocktail hour, etc. I intend to ask all dealers to
> participate with something and to post the gracious offers of those
> who help. The factory will be asked to provide on site service and
> monetary assistance as well. I welcome any and all comments and
> suggestions; please post here or email me direct. I will save and
> sort all comments. Thanks in advance. I need help in planning a
> rally that appeals to as many as possible and, in the past, have
> participated in rallies where the cost was excessive for what we
> received. Your assistance will prevent that from happening as we
> will know just what is necessary and appealing to most. My intention
> is to start planning this summer.
>
> Thanks,
> Rich D. '99LXi43' CT
>
Rally in our "own Valley - randydupree - 05-06-2005 12:28
i'll be there,but i'm not sitting behind anymore tables watching you guys have
fun! randydupree93wb
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So Randy, are you gonna be our first vendor at the rally? Ernie- thinking
about asking other vendors~ who knows what will happen
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Rally in our "own Valley - randydupree - 05-06-2005 12:29
you go blair(and lynn!) randydupree93wb
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From: Blair
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Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley
Randy,
Lynn and I have decided to volunteer our special talents and
experience to Bluebird to show them how
to put on a four to five day event, full meals, wet bar and all the fun you
can handle all for $200 or less.
What do you think? Blair who is flabbergasted at the cost they're charging
At 12:49 PM 5/6/2005, you wrote:
>ron.as a vendor at FMCA for many years i watched the price of vending go
>up each and every event.it was way too high to break even,back when i
>first started showing my wares at fmca conventions.i wrote letters to
>fmca,a chapter for vendors was started,all to try to keep the cost down so
>we could continue to vend at there conventions.the cost continuded to go
>up and i stopped working at the fmca conventions.their feelings were that
>they sold out all the space at every show,so why keep the cost down?there
>was always someone else waiting for my spot if i didnt want it.i know of
>several other manufacture's that don't attend for the same reason,too much
>money! i guess that the people at BB think that 500 bucks is not very much
>money for someone that owns a bird.too me,its not the amount of money,its
>what you get for the money.and the riv is not worth $500 to me,and i
>really think BB will not get that its too much money until we don't show
>up there..randydupree93wb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ronmarabito2002
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:25 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley
>
>
> It wouldn't serve any usefull purpose to alienate ourselves from
> Wanderlodge. We have nothing to gain by doing this. We need to
> simply make Management understand that: It's not worth it and they
> need to re-think their pricing and where the value is.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> Moderator
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Mark Garber
> wrote:
> > How about a banner saying Blue Bird Beatniks or Blue Bird Brats
> leading into the campground?
> >
> > Mark, 80FC35 in PA with the Blue Bird Beatnik paint scheme from
> the factory.
> >
> >
> > randydupree
> > trailer trash?(VBG!) haha! randydupree 93wb in fl
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mike Hohnstein
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 1:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley
> >
> >
> > Pretty simple, don't go where your aren't wanted. If 500 bucks
> tightens your back side, the powers that be are getting the desired
> effect. I suspect it's like that at Indio and other high end
> destinations. Some people like to hang with peers of a like net
> worth level. Or something. Nothing wrong with bein' trailer trash.
> > Mike Hohnstein
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: George Lowry
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:04 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley
> >
> >
> > I don't know how many of the forum members are also members of
> the
> > FMCA Bluebird Chapter but I am beginning to have concerns. It
> appears
> > that the Chapter is allowing Bluebird to run things. Costs for
> all the
> > rallies are WAY out of line for what the costs are in other
> chapters.
> > It appears that Bluebird/ bluebird chapter is trying to price
> out the
> > lower income folks. Is it for snobs only?
> >
> > We just has a rally in another chapter at Cal Expo, one of the
> better
> > parks around Sacramento ant the total cost for the largest,
> best site
> > including the meals only came to $80. True there was some
> volunteer
> > work. I am certain that Bluebirders aren't afraid to get
> their hands
> > dirty if necessary.
> >
> > Last year I inquired as to why Bluebird was charging $250 for
> a three
> > day rally when FMCA international rallies are only $99. And
> the FMCA
> > rallies include three nights of name entertainment. The
> response was
> > the cost of meals. They said that they figured $25 per meal
> per
> > person. Now I have been living in a much higher cost of living
> area
> > (CA) and the last catered meal we had cost only $17 per person
> > including gratuity and tax, and included four kinds of meat,
> four
> > different kinds of beans, and other items including drinks.
> Everyone
> > had more food than they could eat.
> >
> > On top of this, the Bluebird Chapter has decided to
> drastically
> > increase their dues this year. We have come to the decision
> that
> > Bluebird doesn't want us as members nor do they want us to
> upgrade to
> > a newer coach.
> >
> > We currently belong to six different chapters. Bluebird has
> > consistently been the most expensive by a factor of 3 - 5. I
> was under
> > the impression that Bluebird was helping the Bluebird Chapter
> with
> > some of their expenses as an advertising expense. It more
> appears
> > that their old customers are being used as a method of added
> income to
> > feed corporate greed. Perhaps I have just been around
> organized
> > rallies for two long.
> >
> > If there is anyone on the forum that is an officer of the
> Bluebird
> > Chapter, I would appreciate their input.
> >
> > George Lowry
> > '95 WBDA 4203 & GM 4106 (for sale)
> > Spearfish, SD
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Rally in our "own Valley - Tim and Mary Ann SPREADBOROUGH - 05-06-2005 12:35
Blair,
You and Lynn certainly do a better job than they are!!!! But.......they are
going for the big$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$'ssss in their pockets.
Tim S
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From: Blair
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Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley
Randy,
Lynn and I have decided to volunteer our special talents and
experience to Bluebird to show them how
to put on a four to five day event, full meals, wet bar and all the fun you
can handle all for $200 or less.
What do you think? Blair who is flabbergasted at the cost they're charging
At 12:49 PM 5/6/2005, you wrote:
>ron.as a vendor at FMCA for many years i watched the price of vending go
>up each and every event.it was way too high to break even,back when i
>first started showing my wares at fmca conventions.i wrote letters to
>fmca,a chapter for vendors was started,all to try to keep the cost down so
>we could continue to vend at there conventions.the cost continuded to go
>up and i stopped working at the fmca conventions.their feelings were that
>they sold out all the space at every show,so why keep the cost down?there
>was always someone else waiting for my spot if i didnt want it.i know of
>several other manufacture's that don't attend for the same reason,too much
>money! i guess that the people at BB think that 500 bucks is not very much
>money for someone that owns a bird.too me,its not the amount of money,its
>what you get for the money.and the riv is not worth $500 to me,and i
>really think BB will not get that its too much money until we don't show
>up there..randydupree93wb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ronmarabito2002
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:25 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley
>
>
> It wouldn't serve any usefull purpose to alienate ourselves from
> Wanderlodge. We have nothing to gain by doing this. We need to
> simply make Management understand that: It's not worth it and they
> need to re-think their pricing and where the value is.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> Moderator
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Mark Garber
> wrote:
> > How about a banner saying Blue Bird Beatniks or Blue Bird Brats
> leading into the campground?
> >
> > Mark, 80FC35 in PA with the Blue Bird Beatnik paint scheme from
> the factory.
> >
> >
> > randydupree
> > trailer trash?(VBG!) haha! randydupree 93wb in fl
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mike Hohnstein
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 1:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley
> >
> >
> > Pretty simple, don't go where your aren't wanted. If 500 bucks
> tightens your back side, the powers that be are getting the desired
> effect. I suspect it's like that at Indio and other high end
> destinations. Some people like to hang with peers of a like net
> worth level. Or something. Nothing wrong with bein' trailer trash.
> > Mike Hohnstein
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: George Lowry
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:04 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley
> >
> >
> > I don't know how many of the forum members are also members of
> the
> > FMCA Bluebird Chapter but I am beginning to have concerns. It
> appears
> > that the Chapter is allowing Bluebird to run things. Costs for
> all the
> > rallies are WAY out of line for what the costs are in other
> chapters.
> > It appears that Bluebird/ bluebird chapter is trying to price
> out the
> > lower income folks. Is it for snobs only?
> >
> > We just has a rally in another chapter at Cal Expo, one of the
> better
> > parks around Sacramento ant the total cost for the largest,
> best site
> > including the meals only came to $80. True there was some
> volunteer
> > work. I am certain that Bluebirders aren't afraid to get
> their hands
> > dirty if necessary.
> >
> > Last year I inquired as to why Bluebird was charging $250 for
> a three
> > day rally when FMCA international rallies are only $99. And
> the FMCA
> > rallies include three nights of name entertainment. The
> response was
> > the cost of meals. They said that they figured $25 per meal
> per
> > person. Now I have been living in a much higher cost of living
> area
> > (CA) and the last catered meal we had cost only $17 per person
> > including gratuity and tax, and included four kinds of meat,
> four
> > different kinds of beans, and other items including drinks.
> Everyone
> > had more food than they could eat.
> >
> > On top of this, the Bluebird Chapter has decided to
> drastically
> > increase their dues this year. We have come to the decision
> that
> > Bluebird doesn't want us as members nor do they want us to
> upgrade to
> > a newer coach.
> >
> > We currently belong to six different chapters. Bluebird has
> > consistently been the most expensive by a factor of 3 - 5. I
> was under
> > the impression that Bluebird was helping the Bluebird Chapter
> with
> > some of their expenses as an advertising expense. It more
> appears
> > that their old customers are being used as a method of added
> income to
> > feed corporate greed. Perhaps I have just been around
> organized
> > rallies for two long.
> >
> > If there is anyone on the forum that is an officer of the
> Bluebird
> > Chapter, I would appreciate their input.
> >
> > George Lowry
> > '95 WBDA 4203 & GM 4106 (for sale)
> > Spearfish, SD
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Rally in our "own Valley - Blair - 05-06-2005 12:48
Thanks Tim! Hi Mary Ann
Let this be a notice to all members. Next year we will be
holding the second Rogue River Rally at
our new "River Ranch" and the county Fairgrounds. Please stay tuned for
further information coming
rather far in the future.
Blair & Lynn
At 05:35 PM 5/6/2005, you wrote:
>Blair,
>
>You and Lynn certainly do a better job than they are!!!! But.......they
>are going for the big$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$'ssss in their pockets.
>
>Tim S
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Blair
> To:
> WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley
>
>
> Randy,
> Lynn and I have decided to volunteer our special talents and
> experience to Bluebird to show them how
> to put on a four to five day event, full meals, wet bar and all the fun
> you
> can handle all for $200 or less.
>
> What do you think? Blair who is flabbergasted at the cost they're
> charging
>
>
>
>
>
> At 12:49 PM 5/6/2005, you wrote:
> >ron.as a vendor at FMCA for many years i watched the price of vending go
> >up each and every event.it was way too high to break even,back when i
> >first started showing my wares at fmca conventions.i wrote letters to
> >fmca,a chapter for vendors was started,all to try to keep the cost
> down so
> >we could continue to vend at there conventions.the cost continuded to go
> >up and i stopped working at the fmca conventions.their feelings were that
> >they sold out all the space at every show,so why keep the cost down?there
> >was always someone else waiting for my spot if i didnt want it.i know of
> >several other manufacture's that don't attend for the same reason,too
> much
> >money! i guess that the people at BB think that 500 bucks is not very
> much
> >money for someone that owns a bird.too me,its not the amount of money,its
> >what you get for the money.and the riv is not worth $500 to me,and i
> >really think BB will not get that its too much money until we don't show
> >up there..randydupree93wb
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: ronmarabito2002
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:25 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley
> >
> >
> > It wouldn't serve any usefull purpose to alienate ourselves from
> > Wanderlodge. We have nothing to gain by doing this. We need to
> > simply make Management understand that: It's not worth it and they
> > need to re-think their pricing and where the value is.
> >
> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> > Moderator
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Mark Garber
> > wrote:
> > > How about a banner saying Blue Bird Beatniks or Blue Bird Brats
> > leading into the campground?
> > >
> > > Mark, 80FC35 in PA with the Blue Bird Beatnik paint scheme from
> > the factory.
> > >
> > >
> > > randydupree
> > > trailer trash?(VBG!) haha! randydupree 93wb in fl
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Mike Hohnstein
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 1:53 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley
> > >
> > >
> > > Pretty simple, don't go where your aren't wanted. If 500 bucks
> > tightens your back side, the powers that be are getting the desired
> > effect. I suspect it's like that at Indio and other high end
> > destinations. Some people like to hang with peers of a like net
> > worth level. Or something. Nothing wrong with bein' trailer trash.
> > > Mike Hohnstein
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: George Lowry
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:04 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't know how many of the forum members are also members of
> > the
> > > FMCA Bluebird Chapter but I am beginning to have concerns. It
> > appears
> > > that the Chapter is allowing Bluebird to run things. Costs for
> > all the
> > > rallies are WAY out of line for what the costs are in other
> > chapters.
> > > It appears that Bluebird/ bluebird chapter is trying to price
> > out the
> > > lower income folks. Is it for snobs only?
> > >
> > > We just has a rally in another chapter at Cal Expo, one of the
> > better
> > > parks around Sacramento ant the total cost for the largest,
> > best site
> > > including the meals only came to $80. True there was some
> > volunteer
> > > work. I am certain that Bluebirders aren't afraid to get
> > their hands
> > > dirty if necessary.
> > >
> > > Last year I inquired as to why Bluebird was charging $250 for
> > a three
> > > day rally when FMCA international rallies are only $99. And
> > the FMCA
> > > rallies include three nights of name entertainment. The
> > response was
> > > the cost of meals. They said that they figured $25 per meal
> > per
> > > person. Now I have been living in a much higher cost of living
> > area
> > > (CA) and the last catered meal we had cost only $17 per person
> > > including gratuity and tax, and included four kinds of meat,
> > four
> > > different kinds of beans, and other items including drinks.
> > Everyone
> > > had more food than they could eat.
> > >
> > > On top of this, the Bluebird Chapter has decided to
> > drastically
> > > increase their dues this year. We have come to the decision
> > that
> > > Bluebird doesn't want us as members nor do they want us to
> > upgrade to
> > > a newer coach.
> > >
> > > We currently belong to six different chapters. Bluebird has
> > > consistently been the most expensive by a factor of 3 - 5. I
> > was under
> > > the impression that Bluebird was helping the Bluebird Chapter
> > with
> > > some of their expenses as an advertising expense. It more
> > appears
> > > that their old customers are being used as a method of added
> > income to
> > > feed corporate greed. Perhaps I have just been around
> > organized
> > > rallies for two long.
> > >
> > > If there is anyone on the forum that is an officer of the
> > Bluebird
> > > Chapter, I would appreciate their input.
> > >
> > > George Lowry
> > > '95 WBDA 4203 & GM 4106 (for sale)
> > > Spearfish, SD
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