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RIV Report? - jim riordan - 10-29-2008 16:27 Mike, I agree with you, I am sorry for trying to offer a alternative option to the Ritv. There is so much animosity on our forums. It is really unfortunate. Jim Riordan mbulriss <mbulriss@...> wrote:
RIV Report? - Curt Sprenger - 10-29-2008 18:01 Hey folks. I don't usually respond to these kinds of emails that I have been reading...they are the kind that I usually delete as they are a waste of my time and waste others time. I've been out of touch with the forum emails of late. I'm just getting back into reading the last few days emails, and a lot of it makes me sick.There is no need to tare apart an organization which none of us for the most part (99.999% of us) know anything in detail. Some folks need to read and delete, not respond and fabricate on issues completely unknown to them Let's get back to issues with our almost all vintage 'Birds.Let's stop this un-based speculation and let's get back on track to helping others to resolve vintage 'Bird issues. All of us want to help others to resolve 'Bird issues. That is the way it has been for a great period of time, and it's going to be the same from this day forward...vintage 'Birds don't have a warranty and none of us vintage owners expect anything like that. I buy service and parts from CCW when available and it meets my delivery schedule. That seems like the right thing to do. Let's move on to resolving issues that we all can help resolve. Thank you for reading. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:27 PM, jim riordan <"jqrjr@yahoo.com"> wrote:
-- Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" Anaheim Hills, CA RIV Report? - Kurt Horvath - 10-29-2008 18:41 Curt, I agreed with your thoughts, you recently wrote about removing your radiator.. I have searched for it and I cannot find it. As usual it was well written and exactly the Inf. I need to repair my coach. Could you direct me to that post, As I'm preparing to remove the condenser, exchanger and radiator. To install new insulation, turbo and exhaust, hoses, couplers and whatever else got damaged in my recent near catastrophic exhaust failure. Thanks for your time. Kurt Horvath 95 PT 42 10AC --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger" > > Hey folks. I don't usually respond to these kinds of emails that I have been > reading...they are the kind that I usually delete as they are a waste of my > time and waste others time. I've been out of touch with the forum emails of > late. I'm just getting back into reading the last few days emails, and a lot > of it makes me sick.There is no need to tare apart an organization which > none of us for the most part (99.999% of us) know anything in detail. Some > folks need to read and delete, not respond and fabricate on issues > completely unknown to them Let's get back to issues with our almost all > vintage 'Birds.Let's stop this un-based speculation and let's get back on > track to helping others to resolve vintage 'Bird issues. All of us want to > help others to resolve 'Bird issues. That is the way it has been for a great > period of time, and it's going to be the same from this day > forward...vintage 'Birds don't have a warranty and none of us vintage owners > expect anything like that. I buy service and parts from CCW when available > and it meets my delivery schedule. That seems like the right thing to do. > Let's move on to resolving issues that we all can help resolve. Thank you > for reading. > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:27 PM, jim riordan > > > Mike, > > > > I agree with you, I am sorry for trying to offer a alternative option to > > the Ritv. There is so much animosity on our forums. It is really > > unfortunate. > > > > Jim Riordan > > > > > > *mbulriss <mbulriss@...>* wrote: > > > > Hmmmm.... sorry about those prior two empty posts. I think I can safely > > say Google Chrome has some problems with the rich text editor and/or Yahoo > > Groups. Here's what I tried to post. > > ---------------------- > > > > Dang, I'm sorry I ever asked for a report on the Branson rally now! > > > > I'm going to repeat what I posted in a message sometime after CCW took > > over: > > "I think all of us are highly hopeful and optimistic that the new > > engaged ownership group will restore the quality that we have all come > > to enjoy in our older models. An enthusiastic and engaged ownership > > with pride in their work can bring it back to where the Luce family > > left off. So far, they seem off to a good start on that." > > > > If you haven't looked at the Photos section of the 2009 Bird at Branson, > > you might want to take a look and see how far they have come in so short a > > period of time. > > > > Now that we all know they bought a pig-in-a-poke from Cerberus (typical > > Cerberus deal - look at them dumping Chrysler now that they have sucked all > > they can out of it) we ought to be thankful CCW is still carrying on. > > > > Most of us don't have to worry about warranty on a new Bird. That having > > been said, it seems clear we can have sympathy for owners with outstanding > > warranty issues on units built under the prior owner's reign. Obviously, > > significant frustration exists for those folks. Think how you would feel. On > > the other hand, did CCW assume that liability at purchase? Or did the cost > > of warranty service remain with Cerberus? I know I exclude prior warranty > > responsibility when we take over another company's business. > > > > I just hope the parties involved can resolve it amicably. Online disputes > > needlessly hurt the brand, the company, and ultimately, the whole ownership > > community. > > > > Mike Bulriss > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" > > San Antonio, TX > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@ wrote: > > > > > > Brenda and I have been unable to attend a RIV since we were there in > > 2004. > > > If my business was booming now like it was then, we would have been > > there, for > > > sure. > > > > > > Ernie Ekberg > > > 83PT40 > > > Weatherford, Texas > > > > > > **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's > > Hot > > > 5 Travel Deals! > > > (http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel? ncid=emlcntustrav00000001) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Curt Sprenger > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" > Anaheim Hills, CA > RIV Report? - Gregory OConnor - 10-30-2008 00:35 Kurt, first thing to do is soak all the crap bolts up with PB blaster then I dab a finger full of grease on the rusted nut for overnight wait. Drop the stress off the manifold and turbo by not screwing with the pipes after the maifold untill after you have disconnected the first connection to, if not the manifold itself. The oil hoses get dry on the thread surface. PB Blaster does a good job there also. good hoses have a printed line on them and the line should run true on reassembly to keep plys from seperating and leaving interal blockage down the road.that why some time you see a small elbow bandes midway in a hose that looks like it could be connected in a one long piece repair. All the hose connections that are banded need to be buffed out with somthinig like a wire wheel prior to reassembly. Mark mounting hardware and parts like tank top, that are to be reinstalled with the orientation and take pre taredown pics. run a line down the exh.pipe connection prior to taking pics to use as a model if being replaced or as a lineup if being reassembled. would be cool to get a bedroom temp at a control situation prior to repair then again after. good bench mark for early detection for future s60. your first post of hotbedroom raised no concern as hot is not a value definable online and a hotbedroom post is dismissed and not read the folks that post a protest that includes; I dont read these sort of posts ??? Check with the factory to see if there has been prior issue while under warrenty maybe there was a modification in later years, your s60 is the first to be built????? (not suggesting it is a warrenty issue not that that would help anyway) GregoryO'Connor 94ptRomolandCa ( .--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt Horvath" > > Curt, > > I agreed with your thoughts, you recently wrote about removing your > radiator.. I have searched for it and I cannot find it. As usual it > was well written and exactly the Inf. I need to repair my coach. > Could you direct me to that post, As I'm preparing to remove the > condenser, exchanger and radiator. To install new insulation, turbo > and exhaust, hoses, couplers and whatever else got damaged in my > recent near catastrophic exhaust failure. Thanks for your time. > > Kurt Horvath > 95 PT 42 > 10AC > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger" > > > > > Hey folks. I don't usually respond to these kinds of emails that I > have been > > reading...they are the kind that I usually delete as they are a > waste of my > > time and waste others time. I've been out of touch with the forum > emails of > > late. I'm just getting back into reading the last few days emails, > and a lot > > of it makes me sick.There is no need to tare apart an organization > which > > none of us for the most part (99.999% of us) know anything in > detail. Some > > folks need to read and delete, not respond and fabricate on issues > > completely unknown to them Let's get back to issues with our > almost all > > vintage 'Birds.Let's stop this un-based speculation and let's get > back on > > track to helping others to resolve vintage 'Bird issues. All of us > want to > > help others to resolve 'Bird issues. That is the way it has been > for a great > > period of time, and it's going to be the same from this day > > forward...vintage 'Birds don't have a warranty and none of us > vintage owners > > expect anything like that. I buy service and parts from CCW when > available > > and it meets my delivery schedule. That seems like the right thing > to do. > > Let's move on to resolving issues that we all can help resolve. > Thank you > > for reading. > > > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:27 PM, jim riordan > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > I agree with you, I am sorry for trying to offer a alternative > option to > > > the Ritv. There is so much animosity on our forums. It is really > > > unfortunate. > > > > > > Jim Riordan > > > > > > > > > *mbulriss <mbulriss@>* wrote: > > > > > > Hmmmm.... sorry about those prior two empty posts. I think I can > safely > > > say Google Chrome has some problems with the rich text editor > and/or Yahoo > > > Groups. Here's what I tried to post. > > > ---------------------- > > > > > > Dang, I'm sorry I ever asked for a report on the Branson rally > now! > > > > > > I'm going to repeat what I posted in a message sometime after CCW > took > > > over: > > > "I think all of us are highly hopeful and optimistic that the new > > > engaged ownership group will restore the quality that we have all > come > > > to enjoy in our older models. An enthusiastic and engaged > ownership > > > with pride in their work can bring it back to where the Luce > family > > > left off. So far, they seem off to a good start on that." > > > > > > If you haven't looked at the Photos section of the 2009 Bird at > Branson, > > > you might want to take a look and see how far they have come in > so short a > > > period of time. > > > > > > Now that we all know they bought a pig-in-a-poke from Cerberus > (typical > > > Cerberus deal - look at them dumping Chrysler now that they have > sucked all > > > they can out of it) we ought to be thankful CCW is still carrying > on. > > > > > > Most of us don't have to worry about warranty on a new Bird. That > having > > > been said, it seems clear we can have sympathy for owners with > outstanding > > > warranty issues on units built under the prior owner's reign. > Obviously, > > > significant frustration exists for those folks. Think how you > would feel. On > > > the other hand, did CCW assume that liability at purchase? Or did > the cost > > > of warranty service remain with Cerberus? I know I exclude prior > warranty > > > responsibility when we take over another company's business. > > > > > > I just hope the parties involved can resolve it amicably. Online > disputes > > > needlessly hurt the brand, the company, and ultimately, the whole > ownership > > > community. > > > > > > Mike Bulriss > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" > > > San Antonio, TX > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Brenda and I have been unable to attend a RIV since we were > there in > > > 2004. > > > > If my business was booming now like it was then, we would have > been > > > there, for > > > > sure. > > > > > > > > Ernie Ekberg > > > > 83PT40 > > > > Weatherford, Texas > > > > > > > > **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out > Today's > > > Hot > > > > 5 Travel Deals! > > > > (http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel? > ncid=emlcntustrav00000001) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Curt Sprenger > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" > > Anaheim Hills, CA > > > RIV Report? - Curt Sprenger - 10-30-2008 04:03 Kurt, I sent you my radiator write up. I did not find it on the forum either. I'm sure it's there somewhere. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Kurt Horvath <"kguns@hughes.net"> wrote:
-- Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" Anaheim Hills, CA RIV Report? - Joyce and Richard Hayden - 10-30-2008 06:11  Very well said Curt. I agree with you completely only you said it better than I could have.
Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA - At Imperial LTVA (Yuma area)
RIV Report? - Kurt Horvath - 10-30-2008 08:36 Curt, I sent a thank you earlier, but I don't see it here or in my private e-mail, So, Thank You, it's exactly what I was looking for. Kurt Horvath 95 Pt 42 10AC --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger" > > Kurt, > > I sent you my radiator write up. I did not find it on the forum either. I'm > sure it's there somewhere. > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Kurt Horvath > > > Curt, > > > > I agreed with your thoughts, you recently wrote about removing your > > radiator.. I have searched for it and I cannot find it. As usual it > > was well written and exactly the Inf. I need to repair my coach. > > Could you direct me to that post, As I'm preparing to remove the > > condenser, exchanger and radiator. To install new insulation, turbo > > and exhaust, hoses, couplers and whatever else got damaged in my > > recent near catastrophic exhaust failure. Thanks for your time. > > > > Kurt Horvath > > 95 PT 42 > > 10AC > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > "Curt Sprenger" > > > > > > > > Hey folks. I don't usually respond to these kinds of emails that I > > have been > > > reading...they are the kind that I usually delete as they are a > > waste of my > > > time and waste others time. I've been out of touch with the forum > > emails of > > > late. I'm just getting back into reading the last few days emails, > > and a lot > > > of it makes me sick.There is no need to tare apart an organization > > which > > > none of us for the most part (99.999% of us) know anything in > > detail. Some > > > folks need to read and delete, not respond and fabricate on issues > > > completely unknown to them Let's get back to issues with our > > almost all > > > vintage 'Birds.Let's stop this un-based speculation and let's get > > back on > > > track to helping others to resolve vintage 'Bird issues. All of us > > want to > > > help others to resolve 'Bird issues. That is the way it has been > > for a great > > > period of time, and it's going to be the same from this day > > > forward...vintage 'Birds don't have a warranty and none of us > > vintage owners > > > expect anything like that. I buy service and parts from CCW when > > available > > > and it meets my delivery schedule. That seems like the right thing > > to do. > > > Let's move on to resolving issues that we all can help resolve. > > Thank you > > > for reading. > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:27 PM, jim riordan > > > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > > > I agree with you, I am sorry for trying to offer a alternative > > option to > > > > the Ritv. There is so much animosity on our forums. It is really > > > > unfortunate. > > > > > > > > Jim Riordan > > > > > > > > > > > > *mbulriss <mbulriss@>* wrote: > > > > > > > > Hmmmm.... sorry about those prior two empty posts. I think I can > > safely > > > > say Google Chrome has some problems with the rich text editor > > and/or Yahoo > > > > Groups. Here's what I tried to post. > > > > ---------------------- > > > > > > > > Dang, I'm sorry I ever asked for a report on the Branson rally > > now! > > > > > > > > I'm going to repeat what I posted in a message sometime after CCW > > took > > > > over: > > > > "I think all of us are highly hopeful and optimistic that the new > > > > engaged ownership group will restore the quality that we have all > > come > > > > to enjoy in our older models. An enthusiastic and engaged > > ownership > > > > with pride in their work can bring it back to where the Luce > > family > > > > left off. So far, they seem off to a good start on that." > > > > > > > > If you haven't looked at the Photos section of the 2009 Bird at > > Branson, > > > > you might want to take a look and see how far they have come in > > so short a > > > > period of time. > > > > > > > > Now that we all know they bought a pig-in-a-poke from Cerberus > > (typical > > > > Cerberus deal - look at them dumping Chrysler now that they have > > sucked all > > > > they can out of it) we ought to be thankful CCW is still carrying > > on. > > > > > > > > Most of us don't have to worry about warranty on a new Bird. That > > having > > > > been said, it seems clear we can have sympathy for owners with > > outstanding > > > > warranty issues on units built under the prior owner's reign. > > Obviously, > > > > significant frustration exists for those folks. Think how you > > would feel. On > > > > the other hand, did CCW assume that liability at purchase? Or did > > the cost > > > > of warranty service remain with Cerberus? I know I exclude prior > > warranty > > > > responsibility when we take over another company's business. > > > > > > > > I just hope the parties involved can resolve it amicably. Online > > disputes > > > > needlessly hurt the brand, the company, and ultimately, the whole > > ownership > > > > community. > > > > > > > > Mike Bulriss > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" > > > > San Antonio, TX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > erniecarpet@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Brenda and I have been unable to attend a RIV since we were > > there in > > > > 2004. > > > > > If my business was booming now like it was then, we would have > > been > > > > there, for > > > > > sure. > > > > > > > > > > Ernie Ekberg > > > > > 83PT40 > > > > > Weatherford, Texas > > > > > > > > > > **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out > > Today's > > > > Hot > > > > > 5 Travel Deals! > > > > > (http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel? > > ncid=emlcntustrav00000001) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Curt Sprenger > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" > > > Anaheim Hills, CA > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Curt Sprenger > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" > Anaheim Hills, CA > RIV Report? - Curt Sprenger - 10-30-2008 08:40 Kurt, You are very welcome. On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Kurt Horvath <"kguns@hughes.net"> wrote:
-- Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" Anaheim Hills, CA RIV Report? - Macy Neshati - 10-30-2008 09:47 Greg, first of all I commend you for your fight for someone who was not able to fight for themselves, you have my deepest respect and admiration. I understand everyone has a story but my comments to you were specifically to try to understand your dislike and disdain for CCW, and me it seems, in particular. My invitation stands, come see me, sit down and have a cup of coffee, and lets find all the common ground we have to both stand on and how we can work together to better the brand, the aftermarket support, and the long term health of the company. You know where to find me. Thanks Macy Macy Neshati Vice President, Sales & Marketing Complete Coach Works & Blue Bird Coachworks Office: 951-684-9585 Cell: 951-836-6525 Fax: 951-684-9585 Visit Our Websites: http://www.completecoach.com &http://www.bluebirdcoachworks.com RIV Report? - Macy Neshati - 10-30-2008 10:19 Mr. Chaffin, I only responded directly to you on two issues. One is you calling me a liar, and two claiming we had prior knowledge of the front axle problem before we bought the company. There is no way you can refute or respond to either of those items. The balance of my response was in answer to all the other emails and accusations that started swirling around your original email. I do thank you for your well wishes for our friend and business associate. As always, travel safe Macy Macy Neshati Vice President, Sales & Marketing Complete Coach Works & Blue Bird Coachworks Office: 951-684-9585 Cell: 951-836-6525 Fax: 951-684-9585 Visit Our Websites: http://www.completecoach.com &http://www.bluebirdcoachworks.com |