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RE: LXi and WideBody PTO/Pump Splines - timetravelers - 10-16-2013 11:10
Thanks, Chuck & David.
My intention is to travel from CO to FL for the winter in 2 weeks. I have a new 1" wet spline pump in hand and want to rebuild (convert) the existing PTO to the 1" wet spline. I may send it to PTO sales in Fontana, CA for rebuild where yours was converted. I imagine they will make sure the mesh with the Allison would be maintained. Maybe I can find a good Chelsea dealer in FL to do it and save the shipping.
I also have installed the VMSpc to monitor temps (with alarms) in case the spline does fail. I feel OK about running it another 1500 miles and then converting it. I think it's great that it lasted this long even though the incorrect and excessive grease was used for years. The coke bottle noise has occasionally occurred for the past year at idle engine speed. George Morris didn't know what it was last spring, so he changed the oil and filters in the system. He is aware about the spline failures, when I told him I had split the assembly and checked the splines. He also said that it only needs about 2 pumps on the grease gun.
David, the picture is a cell phone shot and not too accurate, the wear is silver and not deep. But you're right, it's time to change it. What do you think of it lasting 160,000 miles?
RE: LXi and WideBody PTO/Pump Splines - davidbrady - 10-17-2013 10:40
Morey,
I think the splines look good for the miles on them. Some PTO's are better than others. Some will wear thru the splines quickly while others, like yours, do so slowly. I think you can get another 10K miles out of the splines without worry. I'd continue with your greasing protocol, a couple of squirts every few thousand miles or every three months, and think about replacing the splines over the course of the next year.
RE: LXi and WideBody PTO/Pump Splines - Garynmike - 08-31-2015 14:52
Okay everyone, so I've put down a deposit on what looks to be a beautiful LXi with an owner that seems to be very honest and open...
In a question posed by another member I was prodded to ask if the PTO pump has been serviced or replaced...
I asked the CO via text and his response was "I assume u are asking about the pump that provides pressure to run the power steering and the cooling fan. I have never had a problem with it. It does not leak and functions perfectly. I did have a crack in the heat exchanger fixed a couple of years ago and replaced a marginal hose at one point!"
He then asked why I asked. And then he texted "I am curious as to weather there has been a problem with the pumps?"
So, is there a reason I ought to pursue this at this point or is it really more of a case by case sort of thing?
RE: LXi and WideBody PTO/Pump Splines - GregOConnor - 08-31-2015 15:41
you should just assume that 20 grand of stuff needs attention in the next 2 years. 5 grand if you can do the work yourself. feel lucky if it is less, feel more secure with the bus if it is more. . Pumps fail usually from cavitation, air in the oil or metal from other parts passing the pump. I burnt up a brand new hydro pump by not priming it when i installed it so it ran dry for 30 seconds and 500 rotations. My 94 was in great shape but the new owner already put all drums and shoes, tires and a new alt that has to be around $6,500. or six months of payments on a Fleetwood class C
RE: LXi and WideBody PTO/Pump Splines - Deb N Randy - 08-31-2015 15:57
Dude, you are going to scare yourself out of this coach.. aren't you? No, the PTO should not be a deal breaker. Something you want to keep greased and in check yes, but not a deal breaker. I truly doubt many have been replaced without a failure of some sort.
RE: LXi and WideBody PTO/Pump Splines - halkading - 08-31-2015 17:01
Is this something the LX owners need to be concerned about?
Hal Kading 2003 LX40 Las Cruces NM
RE: LXi and WideBody PTO/Pump Splines - davidbrady - 08-31-2015 17:47
Hi Hal,
Yes it effects the LX too. Here's a link for the proper spline grease: http://www.wanderlodgegurus.com/showthread.php?tid=9767
Don't use any old grease; use the right stuff. Only these high pressure high temperature purpose made spline lubes are adequate.
Sorry, there were a lot of broken links in the above referenced thread. I fixed them. Folks, since our move to the new server a lot of links became broken. If you find affected posts please report them to me and I'll fix the links. At the bottom of every post is a button to report the post to the administrator. Make a simple note in the report that the links are broken. Thanks!
RE: LXi and WideBody PTO/Pump Splines - Garynmike - 08-31-2015 18:17
I hope not to scare myself out of it because it seems that, if I am to buy a Wanderlodge coach, this would be the one! I'm just starting to think about all the things I need to consider, ship stuff to David to have there for me, and what I'll need to maybe ponder doing or keeping an eye on when I get back here to Maryland.
It's like any big purchase, cold feet/buyers remorse, I just need to get past it.
RE: LXi and WideBody PTO/Pump Splines - ernie ekberg - 08-31-2015 21:46
first coach, I presume?
RE: LXi and WideBody PTO/Pump Splines - Garynmike - 08-31-2015 21:56
No, actually. I have previously owned a 1995 Airstream Classic 36' diesel pusher. I paid $37k for that one which seemed like a lot to me at the time... and then when I started looking at Wanderlodges.
So now I'm up to $70k, and although I really believe this could be a coach to take us on many fascinating journeys of fun and discovery, it is such a huge step of faith.
I guess my biggest concern is all the things that could go wrong and could cost a fortune to fix.... like a PTO assembly out on the highway.