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tires - Kurt Horvath - 07-05-2009 13:44

It just you Ernie. LOL

Your right MICHELIN is better.

The last time the subject about tires on the forum was discussed it got
personal.

Some folks have a problem with Michelin being French Company; some folks have
problems with Mexican painters. Etc.

I have a problem with getting the most bang for my buck.

I don't much care were it's made or who made it, as long as it's the best I can
get for my $$$$$$"SSSSSSS

Bridgstone is owned by Michelin, so for a few more bucks I'd go Michelin.

Goodyear is only used by necessity not by choice.

Michelin is standard equipment on Prevost

Firestone makes a tire for Greyhound that has an extra strong sidewall, due to
the fact that the Dogs pull up to the curb several times a day and scuffing is a
problem.

Your rotation schedule sounds good. I've been doing that every year since I've
owned my coach. Two new steers yearly, In another year I'll have nothing older
that 4 years on the bird. With good trade in value to boot.

If you go back and check some of the older threads on this forum you'll see lots
of ideas, see if your tire guy will not take the old tires that have good tread
and not too old in on trade, don't just give them up they are worth something,

Local truckers and farmers would probably give $100 bucks or more for a tire
with good tread that are only three or four years old.

There are other choices as well, Kumho & Toyo are as good as the other brands.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT 42
10AC

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ernie Ekberg wrote:
>
> Don't Bridgestones have a harder sidewall then the others?
> I had B's on my van and they were stiif. Put M's on and ride is better. Or is
is me?
>
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Wanderlodge
> Weatherford, Tx
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erniesremodelingandrepair
>
> --- On Sun, 7/5/09, tommy.rountree wrote:
>
>
> From: tommy.rountree
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 5:33 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> O.K, everyone.... .
>
> I'm now throughly confused. I have Michelins all the way around on my 94 WB.
Steer tires 4 years old. Drive tires 5 years old, Tag tires 6 years old. No
cracks, good tread. I was wanting to replace my steers and had figured on two
Goodyears for thew steers and moving the michelins to the Drive and the best of
the drives to the Tag.
>
> My tire man here at home (does tires for a couple of churches one has a
Prevost Tour Bus and the other has a BB) recommends Goodyears, Firestones and
Bridgestones in that order. Does not recommend Michelins. Prices:
>
> Goodyears $508.00 each including new ss valve stems and mounting.
> Firestones $465.00 each, include ss valve stems and mounting.
> Bridgestones $561.00 each, includes new ss valve stems and mounting.
>
> The tire debate goes no, but I not choosy - just want the best tire for the
money.
>
> Help!
>
> Tommy Rountree
>

tires - John McGinnis - 07-05-2009 15:49

Jay, I live in Jeff, on Court Ave, Bird in DW stop by.
John McGinnis 88FC35 Jeffersonville, IN/Louisville, KY

tires - Gregory OConnor - 07-05-2009 17:58

rotate in two new tires every other year, then you never steer on older than 24
month old rubber, and never have older than 8 year old in the mix (8 tire tag
mix). I found best price and newest stock from Manny Moe and Jack. Pepboys
manager can sell the tires from American tire distributor but they don't
install.
Greg ofTim&Greg
94ptca

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
wrote:
>
> You will not find them for $500 unless they are "hot". I think Michelin just
raised their prices again. Somewhere around $650 each out the door is a good
price. I have been quoted more!
>
> Bruce
>
> 1988 FC35
>

tires - bubblerboy64 - 07-05-2009 23:32

Hi Guys, Ya have me concerned. I have the GY 159 12R22.5 on my coach. About
three years old, maybe less then 10k miles. I want to replace them for peace of
mind if for no other reason. My plan is to do the steer tires now and then next
year the drives and the following the tag. I just can't swing the entire set
of 8 at one shot. My question is one of the fellow replaced his 12R with
315/80/R 22.5 and feels the larger tires a significant benefit. Sounds
reasonable. Since I am not doing all 8 at one time do you see a problem mixing
the different size tires as I proceed with my plan? Obviously when I do the
drive axle I would not mix sizes there. Anyone see a problem with either the
larger size or the mixing as I go. Thanks I intend to buy Michelin ZXA2
tires.

John Heckman
Shippensburg Pa
1987 PT 36







>
>
>
> It just you Ernie. LOL
>
> Your right MICHELIN is better.
>
> The last time the subject about tires on the forum was discussed it got
personal.
>
> Some folks have a problem with Michelin being French Company; some folks have
problems with Mexican painters. Etc.
>
> I have a problem with getting the most bang for my buck.
>
> I don't much care were it's made or who made it, as long as it's the best I
can get for my $$$$$$"SSSSSSS
>
> Bridgstone is owned by Michelin, so for a few more bucks I'd go Michelin.
>
> Goodyear is only used by necessity not by choice.
>
> Michelin is standard equipment on Prevost
>
> Firestone makes a tire for Greyhound that has an extra strong sidewall, due to
the fact that the Dogs pull up to the curb several times a day and scuffing is a
problem.
>
> Your rotation schedule sounds good. I've been doing that every year since I've
owned my coach. Two new steers yearly, In another year I'll have nothing older
that 4 years on the bird. With good trade in value to boot.
>
> If you go back and check some of the older threads on this forum you'll see
lots of ideas, see if your tire guy will not take the old tires that have good
tread and not too old in on trade, don't just give them up they are worth
something,
>
> Local truckers and farmers would probably give $100 bucks or more for a tire
with good tread that are only three or four years old.
>
> There are other choices as well, Kumho & Toyo are as good as the other brands.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT 42
> 10AC
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ernie Ekberg wrote:
> >
> > Don't Bridgestones have a harder sidewall then the others?
> > I had B's on my van and they were stiif. Put M's on and ride is better. Or
is is me?
> >
> >
> > Ernie Ekberg
> > 83PT40
> > Wanderlodge
> > Weatherford, Tx
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erniesremodelingandrepair
> >
> > --- On Sun, 7/5/09, tommy.rountree wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: tommy.rountree
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 5:33 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > O.K, everyone.... .
> >
> > I'm now throughly confused. I have Michelins all the way around on my 94 WB.
Steer tires 4 years old. Drive tires 5 years old, Tag tires 6 years old. No
cracks, good tread. I was wanting to replace my steers and had figured on two
Goodyears for thew steers and moving the michelins to the Drive and the best of
the drives to the Tag.
> >
> > My tire man here at home (does tires for a couple of churches one has a
Prevost Tour Bus and the other has a BB) recommends Goodyears, Firestones and
Bridgestones in that order. Does not recommend Michelins. Prices:
> >
> > Goodyears $508.00 each including new ss valve stems and mounting.
> > Firestones $465.00 each, include ss valve stems and mounting.
> > Bridgestones $561.00 each, includes new ss valve stems and mounting.
> >
> > The tire debate goes no, but I not choosy - just want the best tire for the
money.
> >
> > Help!
> >
> > Tommy Rountree
> >
>

tires - Chuck Wheeler - 07-06-2009 02:13


John,
When I purchased our coach it had 159s on it. I never had a tire failure. I replace them after about two years due to the age of the tires. In those two years they were in 114 degree desert heat and sub zero winter weather.
- Chuck Wheeler-
1982 FC 31SB Fort Worth TX

From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bubblerboy64
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 6:33 AM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires




Hi Guys, Ya have me concerned. I have the GY 159 12R22.5 on my coach. About three years old, maybe less then 10k miles. I want to replace them for peace of mind if for no other reason. My plan is to do the steer tires now and then next year the drives and the following the tag. I just can't swing the entire set of 8 at one shot. My question is one of the fellow replaced his 12R with 315/80/R 22.5 and feels the larger tires a significant benefit. Sounds reasonable. Since I am not doing all 8 at one time do you see a problem mixing the different size tires as I proceed with my plan? Obviously when I do the drive axle I would not mix sizes there. Anyone see a problem with either the larger size or the mixing as I go. Thanks I intend to buy Michelin ZXA2 tires.

John Heckman
Shippensburg Pa
1987 PT 36

>
>
>
> It just you Ernie. LOL
>
> Your right MICHELIN is better.
>
> The last time the subject about tires on the forum was discussed it got personal.
>
> Some folks have a problem with Michelin being French Company; some folks have problems with Mexican painters. Etc.
>
> I have a problem with getting the most bang for my buck.
>
> I don't much care were it's made or who made it, as long as it's the best I can get for my $$$$$$"SSSSSSS
>
> Bridgstone is owned by Michelin, so for a few more bucks I'd go Michelin.
>
> Goodyear is only used by necessity not by choice.
>
> Michelin is standard equipment on Prevost
>
> Firestone makes a tire for Greyhound that has an extra strong sidewall, due to the fact that the Dogs pull up to the curb several times a day and scuffing is a problem.
>
> Your rotation schedule sounds good. I've been doing that every year since I've owned my coach. Two new steers yearly, In another year I'll have nothing older that 4 years on the bird. With good trade in value to boot.
>
> If you go back and check some of the older threads on this forum you'll see lots of ideas, see if your tire guy will not take the old tires that have good tread and not too old in on trade, don't just give them up they are worth something,
>
> Local truckers and farmers would probably give $100 bucks or more for a tire with good tread that are only three or four years old.
>
> There are other choices as well, Kumho & Toyo are as good as the other brands.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT 42
> 10AC
>
> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Ernie Ekberg wrote:
> >
> > Don't Bridgestones have a harder sidewall then the others?
> > I had B's on my van and they were stiif. Put M's on and ride is better. Or is is me?
> >
> >
> > Ernie Ekberg
> > 83PT40
> > Wanderlodge
> > Weatherford, Tx
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erniesremodelingandrepair
> >
> > --- On Sun, 7/5/09, tommy.rountree > wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: tommy.rountree >
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires
> > To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"
> > Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 5:33 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > O.K, everyone.... .
> >
> > I'm now throughly confused. I have Michelins all the way around on my 94 WB. Steer tires 4 years old. Drive tires 5 years old, Tag tires 6 years old. No cracks, good tread. I was wanting to replace my steers and had figured on two Goodyears for thew steers and moving the michelins to the Drive and the best of the drives to the Tag.
> >
> > My tire man here at home (does tires for a couple of churches one has a Prevost Tour Bus and the other has a BB) recommends Goodyears, Firestones and Bridgestones in that order. Does not recommend Michelins. Prices:
> >
> > Goodyears $508.00 each including new ss valve stems and mounting.
> > Firestones $465.00 each, include ss valve stems and mounting.
> > Bridgestones $561.00 each, includes new ss valve stems and mounting.
> >
> > The tire debate goes no, but I not choosy - just want the best tire for the money.
> >
> > Help!
> >
> > Tommy Rountree
> >
>



tires - Don Bradner - 07-06-2009 02:24

I replaced my steers with 315/80 XZA-2 a couple of months ago, and just hit the
road yesterday.

With 12Rs I had to run at least 115 on a 120-lb rated tire, and they would run
as high as 140 down the road (Pressure Pro reporting). With the 315/80 I set
them at 105 to carry the same weight on a 130-lb rated tire, and the highest I
saw yesterday was 124 running in 100-degree temps at 60mph. Ride when hitting
bumps much better.

I will be replacing the drivers next year, and will stay with 12R, XZE*. Shane
runs 315/80 on his drivers also, but has to run them at high pressure to keep
separation with 8.25-inch rims. I don't see any reason to do that, as 90psi on
the 12R is correct for my weight.

Tags get replaced with rotated steers, so in a couple of years I will have
315/80 on the tags. Again not needed, but not a problem.

My preference is to not have different-age tires on the drivers, so for me the
rotation is 2-4-2-2-4-2-2-4 rather than straight 2-2-2-2.

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Posting today by satellite from Susanville, CA
My location: http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1

On 7/6/2009 at 11:32 AM bubblerboy64 wrote:

>Hi Guys, Ya have me concerned. I have the GY 159 12R22.5 on my coach.
>About three years old, maybe less then 10k miles. I want to replace them
>for peace of mind if for no other reason. My plan is to do the steer
>tires now and then next year the drives and the following the tag. I
>just can't swing the entire set of 8 at one shot. My question is one of
>the fellow replaced his 12R with 315/80/R 22.5 and feels the larger tires
>a significant benefit. Sounds reasonable. Since I am not doing all 8 at
>one time do you see a problem mixing the different size tires as I proceed
>with my plan? Obviously when I do the drive axle I would not mix sizes
>there. Anyone see a problem with either the larger size or the mixing as
>I go. Thanks I intend to buy Michelin ZXA2 tires.
>
>John Heckman
>Shippensburg Pa
>1987 PT 36
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> It just you Ernie. LOL
>>
>> Your right MICHELIN is better.
>>
>> The last time the subject about tires on the forum was discussed it got
>personal.
>>
>> Some folks have a problem with Michelin being French Company; some folks
>have problems with Mexican painters. Etc.
>>
>> I have a problem with getting the most bang for my buck.
>>
>> I don't much care were it's made or who made it, as long as it's the
>best I can get for my $$$$$$"SSSSSSS
>>
>> Bridgstone is owned by Michelin, so for a few more bucks I'd go Michelin.
>>
>> Goodyear is only used by necessity not by choice.
>>
>> Michelin is standard equipment on Prevost
>>
>> Firestone makes a tire for Greyhound that has an extra strong sidewall,
>due to the fact that the Dogs pull up to the curb several times a day and
>scuffing is a problem.
>>
>> Your rotation schedule sounds good. I've been doing that every year
>since I've owned my coach. Two new steers yearly, In another year I'll
>have nothing older that 4 years on the bird. With good trade in value to
>boot.
>>
>> If you go back and check some of the older threads on this forum you'll
>see lots of ideas, see if your tire guy will not take the old tires that
>have good tread and not too old in on trade, don't just give them up they
>are worth something,
>>
>> Local truckers and farmers would probably give $100 bucks or more for a
>tire with good tread that are only three or four years old.
>>
>> There are other choices as well, Kumho & Toyo are as good as the other
>brands.
>>
>> Kurt Horvath
>> 95 PT 42
>> 10AC
>>
>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ernie Ekberg wrote:
>> >
>> > Don't Bridgestones have a harder sidewall then the others?
>> > I had B's on my van and they were stiif. Put M's on and ride is
>better. Or is is me?
>> >
>> >
>> > Ernie Ekberg
>> > 83PT40
>> > Wanderlodge
>> > Weatherford, Tx
>> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erniesremodelingandrepair
>> >
>> > --- On Sun, 7/5/09, tommy.rountree wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > From: tommy.rountree
>> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires
>> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>> > Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 5:33 PM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > O.K, everyone.... .
>> >
>> > I'm now throughly confused. I have Michelins all the way around on my
>94 WB. Steer tires 4 years old. Drive tires 5 years old, Tag tires 6 years
>old. No cracks, good tread. I was wanting to replace my steers and had
>figured on two Goodyears for thew steers and moving the michelins to the
>Drive and the best of the drives to the Tag.
>> >
>> > My tire man here at home (does tires for a couple of churches one has
>a Prevost Tour Bus and the other has a BB) recommends Goodyears,
>Firestones and Bridgestones in that order. Does not recommend Michelins.
>Prices:
>> >
>> > Goodyears $508.00 each including new ss valve stems and mounting.
>> > Firestones $465.00 each, include ss valve stems and mounting.
>> > Bridgestones $561.00 each, includes new ss valve stems and mounting.
>> >
>> > The tire debate goes no, but I not choosy - just want the best tire
>for the money.
>> >
>> > Help!
>> >
>> > Tommy Rountree
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

tires - Kurt Horvath - 07-06-2009 02:47

John,

I would not replace your tires just on the fear of a problem, "three years old,
maybe less then 10k miles." If you haven't had a problem by now you most likely
don't have a problem. These tires have a lot of life left in them, granted they
my not be your first choice in a tire, yea I'm one of those guys that doesn't
like Goodyear, but their not chopped liver either. I wouldn't take the one
Goodyear off my coach; I'm too practical for that, read in here, cheap, LOL. If
you do go for the new rubber, stick to the original size tire, the 315's are
higher rated that the 12.5's but do you need that extra capacity on a PT 36? You
should be able to get a good trade in price for your old skins with such little
wear. If the dealer won't deal, sell them to a local trucker or farmer.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT 42
10AC
7 Michelins, 1 Goodyear






--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Wheeler" wrote:
>
> John,
>
> When I purchased our coach it had 159s on it. I never had a tire failure.
> I replace them after about two years due to the age of the tires. In those
> two years they were in 114 degree desert heat and sub zero winter weather.
>
> - Chuck Wheeler-
> 1982 FC 31SB Fort Worth TX
>
>
> _____
>
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bubblerboy64
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 6:33 AM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Guys, Ya have me concerned. I have the GY 159 12R22.5 on my coach. About
> three years old, maybe less then 10k miles. I want to replace them for peace
> of mind if for no other reason. My plan is to do the steer tires now and
> then next year the drives and the following the tag. I just can't swing the
> entire set of 8 at one shot. My question is one of the fellow replaced his
> 12R with 315/80/R 22.5 and feels the larger tires a significant benefit.
> Sounds reasonable. Since I am not doing all 8 at one time do you see a
> problem mixing the different size tires as I proceed with my plan? Obviously
> when I do the drive axle I would not mix sizes there. Anyone see a problem
> with either the larger size or the mixing as I go. Thanks I intend to buy
> Michelin ZXA2 tires.
>
> John Heckman
> Shippensburg Pa
> 1987 PT 36
>
> >
> >
> >
> > It just you Ernie. LOL
> >
> > Your right MICHELIN is better.
> >
> > The last time the subject about tires on the forum was discussed it got
> personal.
> >
> > Some folks have a problem with Michelin being French Company; some folks
> have problems with Mexican painters. Etc.
> >
> > I have a problem with getting the most bang for my buck.
> >
> > I don't much care were it's made or who made it, as long as it's the best
> I can get for my $$$$$$"SSSSSSS
> >
> > Bridgstone is owned by Michelin, so for a few more bucks I'd go Michelin.
> >
> > Goodyear is only used by necessity not by choice.
> >
> > Michelin is standard equipment on Prevost
> >
> > Firestone makes a tire for Greyhound that has an extra strong sidewall,
> due to the fact that the Dogs pull up to the curb several times a day and
> scuffing is a problem.
> >
> > Your rotation schedule sounds good. I've been doing that every year since
> I've owned my coach. Two new steers yearly, In another year I'll have
> nothing older that 4 years on the bird. With good trade in value to boot.
> >
> > If you go back and check some of the older threads on this forum you'll
> see lots of ideas, see if your tire guy will not take the old tires that
> have good tread and not too old in on trade, don't just give them up they
> are worth something,
> >
> > Local truckers and farmers would probably give $100 bucks or more for a
> tire with good tread that are only three or four years old.
> >
> > There are other choices as well, Kumho & Toyo are as good as the other
> brands.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT 42
> > 10AC
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@
> yahoogroups.com, Ernie Ekberg wrote:
> > >
> > > Don't Bridgestones have a harder sidewall then the others?
> > > I had B's on my van and they were stiif. Put M's on and ride is better.
> Or is is me?
> > >
> > >
> > > Ernie Ekberg
> > > 83PT40
> > > Wanderlodge
> > > Weatherford, Tx
> > > http://autos.
> <http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erniesremodelingandrepair>
> groups.yahoo.com/group/erniesremodelingandrepair
> > >
> > > --- On Sun, 7/5/09, tommy.rountree wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: tommy.rountree
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@
> yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 5:33 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > O.K, everyone.... .
> > >
> > > I'm now throughly confused. I have Michelins all the way around on my 94
> WB. Steer tires 4 years old. Drive tires 5 years old, Tag tires 6 years old.
> No cracks, good tread. I was wanting to replace my steers and had figured on
> two Goodyears for thew steers and moving the michelins to the Drive and the
> best of the drives to the Tag.
> > >
> > > My tire man here at home (does tires for a couple of churches one has a
> Prevost Tour Bus and the other has a BB) recommends Goodyears, Firestones
> and Bridgestones in that order. Does not recommend Michelins. Prices:
> > >
> > > Goodyears $508.00 each including new ss valve stems and mounting.
> > > Firestones $465.00 each, include ss valve stems and mounting.
> > > Bridgestones $561.00 each, includes new ss valve stems and mounting.
> > >
> > > The tire debate goes no, but I not choosy - just want the best tire for
> the money.
> > >
> > > Help!
> > >
> > > Tommy Rountree
> > >
> >
>

tires - rogerwwebb@... - 07-06-2009 03:09



As I was looking for links tohelp answer another question on this forum, I ran into one I had booked marked about 'Dangerous' Goodyear G159 tires -- it is a bit dated (2006). I hadkept this article as part of my research when wrestling with Goodyear about my G149 issues detailed in earlier posts.
Roger Webb
91WL
Cedar Rapids, IA
In a message dated 7/6/2009 6:33:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jehdds@... writes:






Hi Guys, Ya have me concerned. I have the GY 159 12R22.5 on my coach. About three years old, maybe less then 10k miles. I want to replace them for peace of mind if for no other reason. My plan is to do the steer tires now and then next year the drives and the following the tag. I just can't swing the entire set of 8 at one shot. My question is one of the fellow replaced his 12R with 315/80/R 22.5 and feels the larger tires a significant benefit. Sounds reasonable. Since I am not doing all 8 at one time do you see a problem mixing the different size tires as I proceed with my plan? Obviously when I do the drive axle I would not mix sizes there. Anyone see a problem with either the larger size or the mixing as I go. Thanks I intend to buy Michelin ZXA2 tires.

John Heckman
Shippensburg Pa
1987 PT 36

>
>
>
> It just you Ernie. LOL
>
> Your right MICHELIN is better.
>
> The last time the subject about tires on the forum was discussed it got personal.
>
> Some folks have a problem with Michelin being French Company; some folks have problems with Mexican painters. Etc.
>
> I have a problem with getting the most bang for my buck.
>
> I don't much care were it's made or who made it, as long as it's the best I can get for my $$$$$$"SSSSSSS
>
> Bridgstone is owned by Michelin, so for a few more bucks I'd go Michelin.
>
> Goodyear is only used by necessity not by choice.
>
> Michelin is standard equipment on Prevost
>
> Firestone makes a tire for Greyhound that has an extra strong sidewall, due to the fact that the Dogs pull up to the curb several times a day and scuffing is a problem.
>
> Your rotation schedule sounds good. I've been doing that every year since I've owned my coach. Two new steers yearly, In another year I'll have nothing older that 4 years on the bird. With good trade in value to boot.
>
> If you go back and check some of the older threads on this forum you'll see lots of ideas, see if your tire guy will not take the old tires that have good tread and not too old in on trade, don't just give them up they are worth something,
>
> Local truckers and farmers would probably give $100 bucks or more for a tire with good tread that are only three or four years old.
>
> There are other choices as well, Kumho & Toyo are as good as the other brands.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT 42
> 10AC
>
> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Ernie Ekberg wrote:
> >
> > Don't Bridgestones have a harder sidewall then the others?
> > I had B's on my van and they were stiif. Put M's on and ride is better. Or is is me?
> >
> >
> > Ernie Ekberg
> > 83PT40
> > Wanderlodge
> > Weatherford, Tx
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erniesremodelingandrepair
> >
> > --- On Sun, 7/5/09, tommy.rountree > wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: tommy.rountree >
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires
> > To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"
> > Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 5:33 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > O.K, everyone.... .
> >
> > I'm now throughly confused. I have Michelins all the way around on my 94 WB. Steer tires 4 years old. Drive tires 5 years old, Tag tires 6 years old. No cracks, good tread. I was wanting to replace my steers and had figured on two Goodyears for thew steers and moving the michelins to the Drive and the best of the drives to the Tag.
> >
> > My tire man here at home (does tires for a couple of churches one has a Prevost Tour Bus and the other has a BB) recommends Goodyears, Firestones and Bridgestones in that order. Does not recommend Michelins. Prices:
> >
> > Goodyears $508.00 each including new ss valve stems and mounting.
> > Firestones $465.00 each, include ss valve stems and mounting.
> > Bridgestones $561.00 each, includes new ss valve stems and mounting.
> >
> > The tire debate goes no, but I not choosy - just want the best tire for the money.
> >
> > Help!
> >
> > Tommy Rountree
> >
>

tires - Pete Masterson - 07-06-2009 04:28

There should be no problem mixing metric (315/80) with 12R tires, if each axle carries the same size/type tire. i.e. replacing tires as you suggest should be no problem.
The only concern is that the 315s, which are about .4 inches wider than the 12R may not have sufficient clearance on the duals ... but that's something to discuss with the tire installer -- I note that several 'bird owners have moved to the metric size tires without problems.
Note that we're referring to all tires as having the radial design. Mixing bias ply tires and radials on the same vehicle can result in some poor handling characteristics.
Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
"aeonix1@mac.com"
On Jul 6, 2009, at 4:32 AM, bubblerboy64 wrote:

Hi Guys, Ya have me concerned. I have the GY 159 12R22.5 on my coach. About three years old, maybe less then 10k miles. I want to replace them for peace of mind if for no other reason. My plan is to do the steer tires now and then next year the drives and the following the tag. I just can't swing the entire set of 8 at one shot. My question is one of the fellow replaced his 12R with 315/80/R 22.5 and feels the larger tires a significant benefit. Sounds reasonable. Since I am not doing all 8 at one time do you see a problem mixing the different size tires as I proceed with my plan? Obviously when I do the drive axle I would not mix sizes there. Anyone see a problem with either the larger size or the mixing as I go. Thanks I intend to buy Michelin ZXA2 tires.

John Heckman
Shippensburg Pa
1987 PT 36







It just you Ernie. LOL
Your right MICHELIN is better.
The last time the subject about tires on the forum was discussed it got personal.
Some folks have a problem with Michelin being French Company; some folks have problems with Mexican painters. Etc.
I have a problem with getting the most bang for my buck.
I don't much care were it's made or who made it, as long as it's the best I can get for my $$$$$$"SSSSSSS
Bridgstone is owned by Michelin, so for a few more bucks I'd go Michelin.
Goodyear is only used by necessity not by choice.
Michelin is standard equipment on Prevost
Firestone makes a tire for Greyhound that has an extra strong sidewall, due to the fact that the Dogs pull up to the curb several times a day and scuffing is a problem.
Your rotation schedule sounds good. I've been doing that every year since I've owned my coach. Two new steers yearly, In another year I'll have nothing older that 4 years on the bird. With good trade in value to boot.
If you go back and check some of the older threads on this forum you'll see lots of ideas, see if your tire guy will not take the old tires that have good tread and not too old in on trade, don't just give them up they are worth something,
Local truckers and farmers would probably give $100 bucks or more for a tire with good tread that are only three or four years old.
There are other choices as well, Kumho & Toyo are as good as the other brands.
Kurt Horvath
95 PT 42
10AC
--- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com", Ernie Ekberg wrote:
Don't Bridgestones have a harder sidewall then the others?
I had B's on my van and they were stiif. Put M's on and ride is better. Or is is me?
Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Wanderlodge
Weatherford, Tx
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erniesremodelingandrepair
--- On Sun, 7/5/09, tommy.rountree wrote:
From: tommy.rountree
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires
To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"
Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 5:33 PM
O.K, everyone.... .
I'm now throughly confused. I have Michelins all the way around on my 94 WB. Steer tires 4 years old. Drive tires 5 years old, Tag tires 6 years old. No cracks, good tread. I was wanting to replace my steers and had figured on two Goodyears for thew steers and moving the michelins to the Drive and the best of the drives to the Tag.
My tire man here at home (does tires for a couple of churches one has a Prevost Tour Bus and the other has a BB) recommends Goodyears, Firestones and Bridgestones in that order. Does not recommend Michelins. Prices:
Goodyears $508.00 each including new ss valve stems and mounting.
Firestones $465.00 each, include ss valve stems and mounting.
Bridgestones $561.00 each, includes new ss valve stems and mounting.
The tire debate goes no, but I not choosy - just want the best tire for the money.
Help!
Tommy Rountree



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tires - bubblerboy64 - 07-06-2009 06:51

Kurt, I realize I am being a little reactionary about this stuff. I am going
to replace the steers now and rotate the take offs to the tag, (which I think
are the oldest tires on the coach) and then basically follow Greg's suggestion.
I watched his video on how to control a coach in a blow out situation and that
gives me the creeps. I'd rather spend the money then have that what I would
think would be a heart in your throat experience of having that front wheel drop
six inches. And how a fellow would have the fore thought to step on the "gas"
and not the brake is a little beyond me.

John Heckman
1987 PT 36
Shbg Pa
>
>
> John,
>
> I would not replace your tires just on the fear of a problem, "three years
old, maybe less then 10k miles." If you haven't had a problem by now you most
likely don't have a problem. These tires have a lot of life left in them,
granted they my not be your first choice in a tire, yea I'm one of those guys
that doesn't like Goodyear, but their not chopped liver either. I wouldn't take
the one Goodyear off my coach; I'm too practical for that, read in here, cheap,
LOL. If you do go for the new rubber, stick to the original size tire, the 315's
are higher rated that the 12.5's but do you need that extra capacity on a PT 36?
You should be able to get a good trade in price for your old skins with such
little wear. If the dealer won't deal, sell them to a local trucker or farmer.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT 42
> 10AC
> 7 Michelins, 1 Goodyear
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Wheeler" wrote:
> >
> > John,
> >
> > When I purchased our coach it had 159s on it. I never had a tire failure.
> > I replace them after about two years due to the age of the tires. In those
> > two years they were in 114 degree desert heat and sub zero winter weather.
> >
> > - Chuck Wheeler-
> > 1982 FC 31SB Fort Worth TX
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bubblerboy64
> > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 6:33 AM
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Guys, Ya have me concerned. I have the GY 159 12R22.5 on my coach. About
> > three years old, maybe less then 10k miles. I want to replace them for peace
> > of mind if for no other reason. My plan is to do the steer tires now and
> > then next year the drives and the following the tag. I just can't swing the
> > entire set of 8 at one shot. My question is one of the fellow replaced his
> > 12R with 315/80/R 22.5 and feels the larger tires a significant benefit.
> > Sounds reasonable. Since I am not doing all 8 at one time do you see a
> > problem mixing the different size tires as I proceed with my plan? Obviously
> > when I do the drive axle I would not mix sizes there. Anyone see a problem
> > with either the larger size or the mixing as I go. Thanks I intend to buy
> > Michelin ZXA2 tires.
> >
> > John Heckman
> > Shippensburg Pa
> > 1987 PT 36
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It just you Ernie. LOL
> > >
> > > Your right MICHELIN is better.
> > >
> > > The last time the subject about tires on the forum was discussed it got
> > personal.
> > >
> > > Some folks have a problem with Michelin being French Company; some folks
> > have problems with Mexican painters. Etc.
> > >
> > > I have a problem with getting the most bang for my buck.
> > >
> > > I don't much care were it's made or who made it, as long as it's the best
> > I can get for my $$$$$$"SSSSSSS
> > >
> > > Bridgstone is owned by Michelin, so for a few more bucks I'd go Michelin.
> > >
> > > Goodyear is only used by necessity not by choice.
> > >
> > > Michelin is standard equipment on Prevost
> > >
> > > Firestone makes a tire for Greyhound that has an extra strong sidewall,
> > due to the fact that the Dogs pull up to the curb several times a day and
> > scuffing is a problem.
> > >
> > > Your rotation schedule sounds good. I've been doing that every year since
> > I've owned my coach. Two new steers yearly, In another year I'll have
> > nothing older that 4 years on the bird. With good trade in value to boot.
> > >
> > > If you go back and check some of the older threads on this forum you'll
> > see lots of ideas, see if your tire guy will not take the old tires that
> > have good tread and not too old in on trade, don't just give them up they
> > are worth something,
> > >
> > > Local truckers and farmers would probably give $100 bucks or more for a
> > tire with good tread that are only three or four years old.
> > >
> > > There are other choices as well, Kumho & Toyo are as good as the other
> > brands.
> > >
> > > Kurt Horvath
> > > 95 PT 42
> > > 10AC
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@
> > yahoogroups.com, Ernie Ekberg wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Don't Bridgestones have a harder sidewall then the others?
> > > > I had B's on my van and they were stiif. Put M's on and ride is better.
> > Or is is me?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ernie Ekberg
> > > > 83PT40
> > > > Wanderlodge
> > > > Weatherford, Tx
> > > > http://autos.
> > <http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erniesremodelingandrepair>
> > groups.yahoo.com/group/erniesremodelingandrepair
> > > >
> > > > --- On Sun, 7/5/09, tommy.rountree wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: tommy.rountree
> > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires
> > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@
> > yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 5:33 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > O.K, everyone.... .
> > > >
> > > > I'm now throughly confused. I have Michelins all the way around on my 94
> > WB. Steer tires 4 years old. Drive tires 5 years old, Tag tires 6 years old.
> > No cracks, good tread. I was wanting to replace my steers and had figured on
> > two Goodyears for thew steers and moving the michelins to the Drive and the
> > best of the drives to the Tag.
> > > >
> > > > My tire man here at home (does tires for a couple of churches one has a
> > Prevost Tour Bus and the other has a BB) recommends Goodyears, Firestones
> > and Bridgestones in that order. Does not recommend Michelins. Prices:
> > > >
> > > > Goodyears $508.00 each including new ss valve stems and mounting.
> > > > Firestones $465.00 each, include ss valve stems and mounting.
> > > > Bridgestones $561.00 each, includes new ss valve stems and mounting.
> > > >
> > > > The tire debate goes no, but I not choosy - just want the best tire for
> > the money.
> > > >
> > > > Help!
> > > >
> > > > Tommy Rountree
> > > >
> > >
> >
>