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Batteries not charging... - The Whistleworks - 11-06-2005 05:43 Al, are you plugged into shore power , try cleaning battery posts and clamps? How old are the batteries? John B 88 FC Carlsbad, NM ----- Original Message ----- From: geez_al To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:16 AM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Batteries not charging... I everyone, I ran into a problem that is sort of confusing me. My bus has been sitting now for a few months. I've been running it every few weeks to kep everything charged and lubricated but the last time, I left the inverter on and it drained the batteries all the way down to about 10 volts and I had to jump start it. The alternator is working as normal when running but it seems the batteries just can't hold a charge. Even after running for extended peroids of time (trip to Mississippi from NM) when the engine is off, the low volt relay still trips. Any suggestions? I don't think there is a short anywhere. Thanks, Al S. 1981 31ft FC NM SPONSORED LINKS Recreational vehicles Wanderlodge Automotive maintenance Recreational vehicle dealer Used recreational vehicles Automotive radiators ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "WanderlodgeForum" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Batteries not charging... - geez_al - 11-09-2005 05:16 I everyone, I ran into a problem that is sort of confusing me. My bus has been sitting now for a few months. I've been running it every few weeks to kep everything charged and lubricated but the last time, I left the inverter on and it drained the batteries all the way down to about 10 volts and I had to jump start it. The alternator is working as normal when running but it seems the batteries just can't hold a charge. Even after running for extended peroids of time (trip to Mississippi from NM) when the engine is off, the low volt relay still trips. Any suggestions? I don't think there is a short anywhere. Thanks, Al S. 1981 31ft FC NM Batteries not charging... - geez_al - 11-09-2005 05:56 The batteries are under a year and the water levels are to the top. That's actually a very good suggestion, I'll give it a try. Al S. 1981 31ft FC NM --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "The Whistleworks" > > Al, are you plugged into shore power , try cleaning battery posts and clamps? How old are the batteries? John B > 88 FC > Carlsbad, NM > ----- Original Message ----- > From: geez_al > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:16 AM > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Batteries not charging... > > > I everyone, I ran into a problem that is sort of confusing me. > > My bus has been sitting now for a few months. I've been running it > every few weeks to kep everything charged and lubricated but the last > time, I left the inverter on and it drained the batteries all the way > down to about 10 volts and I had to jump start it. > > The alternator is working as normal when running but it seems the > batteries just can't hold a charge. Even after running for extended > peroids of time (trip to Mississippi from NM) when the engine is off, > the low volt relay still trips. > > Any suggestions? I don't think there is a short anywhere. > > Thanks, > > Al S. > 1981 31ft FC > NM > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Recreational vehicles Wanderlodge Automotive maintenance > Recreational vehicle dealer Used recreational vehicles Automotive radiators > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "WanderlodgeForum" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Batteries not charging... - Tom Warner - 11-09-2005 06:02 Al if you let the batteries get down to 10 volts its very possible that you destroyed the batteries. Clean the posts as John suggested and then plug it into shore power. Monitor the voltage acorss the batteries and if it is at least 13.2 volts DC for a period of time then the charger is working fine. Then if they dont hold a charge better replace them. tom warner 1982 Bluebird Vernon center,NY At 12:56 PM 11/9/2005, you wrote: >The batteries are under a year and the water levels are to the top. >That's actually a very good suggestion, I'll give it a try. > > >Al S. >1981 31ft FC >NM > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "The Whistleworks" > > > > > Al, are you plugged into shore power , try cleaning battery posts >and clamps? How old are the batteries? John B > > 88 FC > > Carlsbad, NM > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: geez_al > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:16 AM > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Batteries not charging... > > > > > > I everyone, I ran into a problem that is sort of confusing me. > > > > My bus has been sitting now for a few months. I've been running it > > every few weeks to kep everything charged and lubricated but the last > > time, I left the inverter on and it drained the batteries all the way > > down to about 10 volts and I had to jump start it. > > > > The alternator is working as normal when running but it seems the > > batteries just can't hold a charge. Even after running for extended > > peroids of time (trip to Mississippi from NM) when the engine is off, > > the low volt relay still trips. > > > > Any suggestions? I don't think there is a short anywhere. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Al S. > > 1981 31ft FC > > NM > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Recreational vehicles Wanderlodge Automotive >maintenance > > Recreational vehicle dealer Used recreational vehicles >Automotive radiators > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > a.. Visit your group "WanderlodgeForum" on the web. > > > > b.. 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If you eliminate other problems (poor wiring, bad connections, low battery water, old/shot batteries)...you should be able to run a wild ass guess test of your own: if the wiring is clean, your batteries are charged, and have good water level, put "on" a known amp load draw using bus systems (gas alarm, couple of lights, etc.) and see how fast batteries draw down....if it seems that you have no real battery capacity, may be time for new batteries. BUT, are you facing the BB "works as designed issue"? Which is these buses were not really set up for boondocking or dry storage. Absent turning off the master (and later versions - the electronic master) or using a user installed switch at the battery, you are drawing some load even with all systems turned off....and this will draw down your batteries over anywhere from a few hours to a few days, depending on the load, and your battery set up (2,4 or more batteries) and thier condition. The fix here for me was adding a solar panel, and/or learning to kill the switch when storing the bus. The single 120wt. solar panel negates the base load and light boondocking loads that i have (not a system for "living solar". The master switch works for the rest of it. Northern Az. Solar Power has a great informative FAQ sheet on batteries....on thier web site. frank 85FC33 Woodbridge, Va. --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "geez_al" > > I everyone, I ran into a problem that is sort of confusing me. > > My bus has been sitting now for a few months. I've been running it > every few weeks to kep everything charged and lubricated but the last > time, I left the inverter on and it drained the batteries all the way > down to about 10 volts and I had to jump start it. > > The alternator is working as normal when running but it seems the > batteries just can't hold a charge. Even after running for extended > peroids of time (trip to Mississippi from NM) when the engine is off, > the low volt relay still trips. > > Any suggestions? I don't think there is a short anywhere. > > Thanks, > > Al S. > 1981 31ft FC > NM > Batteries not charging... - guysmalley - 11-09-2005 06:04 maybe the fuse on the charger is fried or how old is the charger, is it a newer smart charger? -guy smalley 86 pt 40 Batteries not charging... - Howard O. Truitt - 11-09-2005 06:15 Tom, In your answer to Al you said at least 13.2 vdc What is the optimum and what is the maximum. Howard Truitt Camilla, Ga. 86 8V92 PT40 ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Warner To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Batteries not charging... Al if you let the batteries get down to 10 volts its very possible that you destroyed the batteries. Clean the posts as John suggested and then plug it into shore power. Monitor the voltage acorss the batteries and if it is at least 13.2 volts DC for a period of time then the charger is working fine. Then if they dont hold a charge better replace them. tom warner 1982 Bluebird Vernon center,NY At 12:56 PM 11/9/2005, you wrote: >The batteries are under a year and the water levels are to the top. >That's actually a very good suggestion, I'll give it a try. > > >Al S. >1981 31ft FC >NM > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "The Whistleworks" > > > > > Al, are you plugged into shore power , try cleaning battery posts >and clamps? How old are the batteries? John B > > 88 FC > > Carlsbad, NM > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: geez_al > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:16 AM > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Batteries not charging... > > > > > > I everyone, I ran into a problem that is sort of confusing me. > > > > My bus has been sitting now for a few months. I've been running it > > every few weeks to kep everything charged and lubricated but the last > > time, I left the inverter on and it drained the batteries all the way > > down to about 10 volts and I had to jump start it. > > > > The alternator is working as normal when running but it seems the > > batteries just can't hold a charge. Even after running for extended > > peroids of time (trip to Mississippi from NM) when the engine is off, > > the low volt relay still trips. > > > > Any suggestions? I don't think there is a short anywhere. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Al S. > > 1981 31ft FC > > NM > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Recreational vehicles Wanderlodge Automotive >maintenance > > Recreational vehicle dealer Used recreational vehicles >Automotive radiators > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > a.. Visit your group "WanderlodgeForum" on the web. > > > > b.. 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Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Batteries not charging... - geez_al - 11-09-2005 07:08 Thanks so far guys. The charger is a year old Truecharge +40 working great on the house batts (which are fine as well). I guess the smart thing would to just to have them checked out after cleaning the posts. --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Howard O. Truitt" > > Tom, > > In your answer to Al you said at least 13.2 vdc What is the optimum and what is the maximum. > > Howard Truitt > Camilla, Ga. > 86 8V92 PT40 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Warner > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 1:02 PM > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Batteries not charging... > > > Al if you let the batteries get down to 10 volts its very possible > that you destroyed the batteries. Clean the posts as John suggested > and then plug it into shore power. Monitor the voltage acorss the > batteries and if it is at least 13.2 volts DC for a period of time > then the charger is working fine. Then if they dont hold a charge > better replace them. > > tom warner > 1982 Bluebird > Vernon center,NY > > At 12:56 PM 11/9/2005, you wrote: > >The batteries are under a year and the water levels are to the top. > >That's actually a very good suggestion, I'll give it a try. > > > > > >Al S. > >1981 31ft FC > >NM > > > > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "The Whistleworks" > >whistleworks@p... wrote: > > > > > > Al, are you plugged into shore power , try cleaning battery posts > >and clamps? How old are the batteries? John B > > > 88 FC > > > Carlsbad, NM > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: geez_al > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:16 AM > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Batteries not charging... > > > > > > > > > I everyone, I ran into a problem that is sort of confusing me. > > > > > > My bus has been sitting now for a few months. I've been running it > > > every few weeks to kep everything charged and lubricated but the last > > > time, I left the inverter on and it drained the batteries all the way > > > down to about 10 volts and I had to jump start it. > > > > > > The alternator is working as normal when running but it seems the > > > batteries just can't hold a charge. Even after running for extended > > > peroids of time (trip to Mississippi from NM) when the engine is off, > > > the low volt relay still trips. > > > > > > Any suggestions? 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Terms of Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Batteries not charging... - rogerwwebb - 11-09-2005 07:11 I ran into a similar problem with my 91 and discovered the problem to be one dead (fried) battery in the bank of three engine batteries. Checking the voltage with the batteries tied together gave a false impression of adequate charge. So, you might want to check each battery individually when you're cleaning the connections/posts. Roger WebbCedar Rapids, IA91 WL --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "geez_al" > > I everyone, I ran into a problem that is sort of confusing me. > > My bus has been sitting now for a few months. I've been running it > every few weeks to kep everything charged and lubricated but the last > time, I left the inverter on and it drained the batteries all the way > down to about 10 volts and I had to jump start it. > > The alternator is working as normal when running but it seems the > batteries just can't hold a charge. Even after running for extended > peroids of time (trip to Mississippi from NM) when the engine is off, > the low volt relay still trips. > > Any suggestions? I don't think there is a short anywhere. > > Thanks, > > Al S. > 1981 31ft FC > NM > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Batteries not charging... - Tom Warner - 11-09-2005 08:04 Howard charging batteries is a lot more complicated then it looks on the surface and it makes a difference whether you are using a 3 stage charger like the Xantrex True charge 40 or the old battery boilers BB put in the coaches. Its easier to just read what the experts have compiled about batteries and charging then for me to explain it. I would print out the Trojan Battery information on charging at http://tinyurl.com/978qn If this doesnt explain it to your satisfaction then I can help. Tom Warner 1982 FC35 Vernon Center,NY At 01:15 PM 11/9/2005, you wrote: >Tom, > >In your answer to Al you said at least 13.2 vdc What is the optimum >and what is the maximum. > >Howard Truitt >Camilla, Ga. >86 8V92 PT40 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Warner > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 1:02 PM > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Batteries not charging... > > > Al if you let the batteries get down to 10 volts its very possible > that you destroyed the batteries. Clean the posts as John suggested > and then plug it into shore power. Monitor the voltage acorss the > batteries and if it is at least 13.2 volts DC for a period of time > then the charger is working fine. Then if they dont hold a charge > better replace them. > > tom warner > 1982 Bluebird > Vernon center,NY > > At 12:56 PM 11/9/2005, you wrote: > >The batteries are under a year and the water levels are to the top. > >That's actually a very good suggestion, I'll give it a try. > > > > > >Al S. > >1981 31ft FC > >NM |