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High Idle circuit PT's/FC's - Ralph L. Fullenwider - 11-24-2005 01:44
Good morning everyone:
High idle circuit on the PT's;
Power comes from the ignition on cb to the high idle switch on the dash
(some PT's have a manual valve rather than an Allen Air electric valve)
from the switch on the dash to the low pressure (60 psi) switch to the
neutral safety switch. From the neutral safety switch to the Allen Air
valve (high idle which is normally closed)
When the Allen Air valve opens, it sends air to the transducer located on
the left side of the of the engine on the throttle control unit. The high
idle circuit interacts with the throttle control valve, making it more or
less inactive because of the amount of air being supplied to the throttle
transducer. How that works will be explained when I get the write up done
on the throttle control circuit. And I find that system interesting.
High idle on the FC's;
High idle on the FC's is controlled by using the cruise control in neutral.
Turn the power to the on position. then hit the set switch and each time
you do that, the RPM's raise a calculated amount. To lower the amount of
RPM's you hit the decel side of the set switch and the RPM's will drop the
same calculated amount. To cancel the high idle turn off the cruise control
power.
Safe travels,
Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
http://home.swbell.net/rlf47/index.htm
High Idle circuit PT's/FC's - pattypape - 11-24-2005 02:46
Hi Ralph,
The cruise control on our FC works as you have stated. It is
steady and pretty accurate at highway speeds. All the controlls
operate as designed.
But in the neutral idle mode, it is intermittent, It sometimes
operates properly, other times it will not control the idle speed
and sometimes the high idle will bump the trottle to full open.
Do you have an idea of what could be causing this? Is it possible
that there is a lazy relay or solenoid?? What is the minimum air
pressure required?? Could it be low voltage or a bad ground? I have
pulled the cover off and all the parts look like new and quite
complicated. I decided that I would live with the minor inconvience.
Happy Thanksgiving,
Bill 88 FC
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
>
> Good morning everyone:
>
> High idle circuit on the PT's;
>
> Power comes from the ignition on cb to the high idle switch on the
dash
> (some PT's have a manual valve rather than an Allen Air electric
valve)
> from the switch on the dash to the low pressure (60 psi) switch to
the
> neutral safety switch. From the neutral safety switch to the Allen
Air
> valve (high idle which is normally closed)
>
> When the Allen Air valve opens, it sends air to the transducer
located on
> the left side of the of the engine on the throttle control unit.
The high
> idle circuit interacts with the throttle control valve, making it
more or
> less inactive because of the amount of air being supplied to the
throttle
> transducer. How that works will be explained when I get the write
up done
> on the throttle control circuit. And I find that system
interesting.
>
> High idle on the FC's;
>
> High idle on the FC's is controlled by using the cruise control in
neutral.
> Turn the power to the on position. then hit the set switch and
each time
> you do that, the RPM's raise a calculated amount. To lower the
amount of
> RPM's you hit the decel side of the set switch and the RPM's will
drop the
> same calculated amount. To cancel the high idle turn off the
cruise control
> power.
>
> Safe travels,
>
> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
> http://home.swbell.net/rlf47/index.htm
>
High Idle circuit PT's/FC's - Ralph L. Fullenwider - 11-24-2005 03:29
Morning Bill:
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
Your problem in neutral using the cruise control for high idle could be an
either/or situation. Though I doubt it is a low voltage problem because the
low voltage would drop the cruise out, on the road.
The air comes from the Coach air supply (wet) tank to the air regulator
located to the right of the Bendix control behind that cover you mentioned.
That pressure reducer, takes the PSI from 120 psi to 80 to 90 psi, then
goes through the valve located on the front of the Bendix control and from
there to the transducer. There is more in that line for the FC's that the
PT's don't use.
I don't have my Bendix cruise control manual here at the house so I can't
fully try to help but will get back with you on this when I do.
Safe travels,
Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
http://home.swbell.net/rlf47/index.htm
At 02:46 PM 11/24/2005 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi Ralph,
>
>
>The cruise control on our FC works as you have stated. It is
>steady and pretty accurate at highway speeds. All the controlls
>operate as designed.
>
>But in the neutral idle mode, it is intermittent, It sometimes
>operates properly, other times it will not control the idle speed
>and sometimes the high idle will bump the trottle to full open.
>Do you have an idea of what could be causing this? Is it possible
>that there is a lazy relay or solenoid?? What is the minimum air
>pressure required?? Could it be low voltage or a bad ground? I have
>pulled the cover off and all the parts look like new and quite
>complicated. I decided that I would live with the minor inconvience.
>
>Happy Thanksgiving,
>
>Bill 88 FC
>
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
>
> >
> > Good morning everyone:
> >
> > High idle circuit on the PT's;
> >
> > Power comes from the ignition on cb to the high idle switch on the
>dash
> > (some PT's have a manual valve rather than an Allen Air electric
>valve)
> > from the switch on the dash to the low pressure (60 psi) switch to
>the
> > neutral safety switch. From the neutral safety switch to the Allen
>Air
> > valve (high idle which is normally closed)
> >
> > When the Allen Air valve opens, it sends air to the transducer
>located on
> > the left side of the of the engine on the throttle control unit.
>The high
> > idle circuit interacts with the throttle control valve, making it
>more or
> > less inactive because of the amount of air being supplied to the
>throttle
> > transducer. How that works will be explained when I get the write
>up done
> > on the throttle control circuit. And I find that system
>interesting.
> >
> > High idle on the FC's;
> >
> > High idle on the FC's is controlled by using the cruise control in
>neutral.
> > Turn the power to the on position. then hit the set switch and
>each time
> > you do that, the RPM's raise a calculated amount. To lower the
>amount of
> > RPM's you hit the decel side of the set switch and the RPM's will
>drop the
> > same calculated amount. To cancel the high idle turn off the
>cruise control
> > power.
> >
> > Safe travels,
> >
> > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> > Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
> > http://home.swbell.net/rlf47/index.htm
> >
>
>