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Problem with air operated steeps on fc birds - Jon - 02-12-2006 17:07
I have spent a few hours trying to figure out why my steep would not go
into stow position and found out this to be the problem.
The door electric switch that activates the air control vlv (That
control the air piston on the steeps) was not grounding like it
should. I could open the steps but not with-track them. This switch
over time become over used and will not ground the circuits used to
activate the vlv to the close position. If you have not check this
switch out lately and you think it looks good from the outside, you
might be surprised at how corroded thies units get being exposed to the
wind and rain on the inside. Maybe it time to replace this item before
you have a day like I did checking everything and finally that push
button located at the door entrance.
Jon Lechich
1978 Wanderlodge
Bremerton Washingtion
98311
Problem with air operated steeps on fc birds - Jon - 02-13-2006 05:40
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jon"
>
> I have spent a few hours trying to figure out why my steep would
not go
> into stow position and found out this to be the problem.
>
> The door electric switch that activates the air control vlv (That
> control the air piston on the steeps) was not grounding like it
> should. I could open the steps but not with-track them. This
switch
> over time become over used and will not ground the circuits used to
> activate the vlv to the close position. If you have not check this
> switch out lately and you think it looks good from the outside, you
> might be surprised at how corroded thies units get being exposed to
the
> wind and rain on the inside. Maybe it time to replace this item
before
> you have a day like I did checking everything and finally that push
> button located at the door entrance.
>
> Jon Lechich
> 1978 Wanderlodge
> Bremerton Washingtion
> 98311
>
Oops I had that backasswards on that switch I meant that when it is
pushed in, it is suppose to stop the flow of electricity to the air
actuated air vlv's and not ground the system. And my old one was just
letting the juice flow all the time. Jon
Jon Lechich
Rebel Bird
Problem with air operated steeps on fc birds - Tom Warner - 02-13-2006 06:30
Jon do you have an air operated step or an electrical one?
Tom Warner
1982 FC35
Vernon center,NY
At 12:40 PM 2/13/2006, you wrote:
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jon"
> >
> > I have spent a few hours trying to figure out why my steep would
>not go
> > into stow position and found out this to be the problem.
> >
> > The door electric switch that activates the air control vlv (That
> > control the air piston on the steeps) was not grounding like it
> > should. I could open the steps but not with-track them. This
>switch
> > over time become over used and will not ground the circuits used to
> > activate the vlv to the close position. If you have not check this
> > switch out lately and you think it looks good from the outside, you
> > might be surprised at how corroded thies units get being exposed to
>the
> > wind and rain on the inside. Maybe it time to replace this item
>before
> > you have a day like I did checking everything and finally that push
> > button located at the door entrance.
> >
> > Jon Lechich
> > 1978 Wanderlodge
> > Bremerton Washingtion
> > 98311
> >
>Oops I had that backasswards on that switch I meant that when it is
>pushed in, it is suppose to stop the flow of electricity to the air
>actuated air vlv's and not ground the system. And my old one was just
>letting the juice flow all the time. Jon
>Jon Lechich
>Rebel Bird
>
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Problem with air operated steeps on fc birds - Jon - 02-13-2006 14:19
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
wrote:
>
> Jon do you have an air operated step or an electrical one?
>
> Tom Warner
> 1982 FC35
> Vernon center,NY
Tom I have the air operated type and I thought I had it fixed with
installing a new switch but back to square one and no fixie. I don't
know how Bluebird ever designed a unit like this but its like working
on a rubics cube. I get the juice to open the air soloniod vlv but
when I try to retrack it it just sit there. I can override the power
to the solinoid and the stairs will close. Owell tomorrow if its haft
way decent I will rack my brain again with this electrical problem.
Jon Lechich
Rebel Bird
Bremerton Washington
>
> At 12:40 PM 2/13/2006, you wrote:
> >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jon"
> > >
> > > I have spent a few hours trying to figure out why my steep would
> >not go
> > > into stow position and found out this to be the problem.
> > >
> > > The door electric switch that activates the air control vlv
(That
> > > control the air piston on the steeps) was not grounding like it
> > > should. I could open the steps but not with-track them. This
> >switch
> > > over time become over used and will not ground the circuits
used to
> > > activate the vlv to the close position. If you have not check
this
> > > switch out lately and you think it looks good from the outside,
you
> > > might be surprised at how corroded thies units get being
exposed to
> >the
> > > wind and rain on the inside. Maybe it time to replace this item
> >before
> > > you have a day like I did checking everything and finally that
push
> > > button located at the door entrance.
> > >
> > > Jon Lechich
> > > 1978 Wanderlodge
> > > Bremerton Washingtion
> > > 98311
> > >
> >Oops I had that backasswards on that switch I meant that when it is
> >pushed in, it is suppose to stop the flow of electricity to the air
> >actuated air vlv's and not ground the system. And my old one was
just
> >letting the juice flow all the time. Jon
> >Jon Lechich
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Problem with air operated steeps on fc birds - Tom Warner - 02-13-2006 15:56
Jon if you look under the back of the step you will find either one
or two microswitches that control the shut off of air to the step
when it is fully out or fully in. Yours might have only one
microswitch and only god knows why BB designed some of the BB with
only one (like mine). You will also find 2 air solenoids one to
control air to push the step out and one to pull it in. They are
connected to a double acting air cylinder (one to each end thru a
1/4" plastic air line. On the back of each air solenoid you will
find a small round brass sintered filter with a screw thru it that
can be adjusted with a screwdriver. This adjustment determines the
speed which the air step goes out and in.
There is also a switch on the small panel to the left of the entrance
as you go in the coach that allows you to hold the step out even if
the door is opened and closed and throwing the switch in the other
position the steps will act normally, out when the door is opened and
in when the door is closed.
Tom Warner
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY
At 09:19 PM 2/13/2006, you wrote:
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
>wrote:
> >
> > Jon do you have an air operated step or an electrical one?
> >
> > Tom Warner
> > 1982 FC35
> > Vernon center,NY
>
> Tom I have the air operated type and I thought I had it fixed with
>installing a new switch but back to square one and no fixie. I don't
>know how Bluebird ever designed a unit like this but its like working
>on a rubics cube. I get the juice to open the air soloniod vlv but
>when I try to retrack it it just sit there. I can override the power
>to the solinoid and the stairs will close. Owell tomorrow if its haft
>way decent I will rack my brain again with this electrical problem.
>
>Jon Lechich
>Rebel Bird
>Bremerton Washington
> >
> > At 12:40 PM 2/13/2006, you wrote:
> > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jon"
> > > >
> > > > I have spent a few hours trying to figure out why my steep would
> > >not go
> > > > into stow position and found out this to be the problem.
> > > >
> > > > The door electric switch that activates the air control vlv
>(That
> > > > control the air piston on the steeps) was not grounding like it
> > > > should. I could open the steps but not with-track them. This
> > >switch
> > > > over time become over used and will not ground the circuits
>used to
> > > > activate the vlv to the close position. If you have not check
>this
> > > > switch out lately and you think it looks good from the outside,
>you
> > > > might be surprised at how corroded thies units get being
>exposed to
> > >the
> > > > wind and rain on the inside. Maybe it time to replace this item
> > >before
> > > > you have a day like I did checking everything and finally that
>push
> > > > button located at the door entrance.
> > > >
> > > > Jon Lechich
> > > > 1978 Wanderlodge
> > > > Bremerton Washingtion
> > > > 98311
> > > >
> > >Oops I had that backasswards on that switch I meant that when it is
> > >pushed in, it is suppose to stop the flow of electricity to the air
> > >actuated air vlv's and not ground the system. And my old one was
>just
> > >letting the juice flow all the time. Jon
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