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Maybe Buy The Bird Maybe Not? - squirrelyerk - 02-19-2006 15:11
We are Airstream (1963 Overlander TT) owners involved in a partial
restoration of said trailer. Not too expensive an endeavor since we
are DIY'n it but a bigger job than we planned on.Thank goodness for
the Airstream Forums!
Which is why I seek info here. We just ran across a possible heckuva
deal on a 1978 Wanderlodge 33'. The interior has not been babied, but
is not terrible. A good cleaning and tear out the original green shag
carpet is all she really needs in there.Original upholstery in great
shape, original curtians can be cleaned. New Passenger seat. Windows
and screens are in good shape with the exception of the pass side
front window being cracked.The front heater has been removed,
repaired, and set on top of the rear bed (nice new mattress) for
reinstallation. As far as appliances, the PO said that he never tried
them, but was told they worked...right, so we will assume they are
mostly DOA to be safe. Been there, done that on the '63 Airstream! The
CAT3208 has 18k on the odo (probably 118K...was overhauled 12k ago),
starts right up and the bus drives beautifully (albeit a bit loud, but
I suspect that's normal for the CAT). Tires are decent and body is
excellent with no rust, dents, or missing parts.Onan gen is there...no
idea if it works. It looks to be a pretty standard Wanderlodge in fair
condition without any owner-modified upgrades. Can anyone give me a
ballpark figure on what a coach of this vintage and condition should
cost. I realize it's a bit difficult without knowing any more details.
The roof has the overlapping sheets of corrugated-looking steel. Were
they proned to leaks? I am thinking that plastic headliner in the bus
would mask any potential leaky areas from being spotted on the inside.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks!
-Tracey & Oscar E
Maybe Buy The Bird Maybe Not? - rrob@... - 02-19-2006 17:54
Contact me off line. Airstream is a tinfoil piece of crap.
Quoting squirrelyerk <squirrelsaresoft@...>:
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> We are Airstream (1963 Overlander TT) owners involved in a partial
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> restoration of said trailer. Not too expensive an endeavor since we
>
> are DIY'n it but a bigger job than we planned on.Thank goodness for
>
> the Airstream Forums!
>
> Which is why I seek info here. We just ran across a possible heckuva
>
> deal on a 1978 Wanderlodge 33'. The interior has not been babied, but
>
> is not terrible. A good cleaning and tear out the original green shag
>
> carpet is all she really needs in there.Original upholstery in great
>
> shape, original curtians can be cleaned. New Passenger seat. Windows
>
> and screens are in good shape with the exception of the pass side
>
> front window being cracked.The front heater has been removed,
>
> repaired, and set on top of the rear bed (nice new mattress) for
>
> reinstallation. As far as appliances, the PO said that he never tried
>
> them, but was told they worked...right, so we will assume they are
>
> mostly DOA to be safe. Been there, done that on the '63 Airstream! The
>
> CAT3208 has 18k on the odo (probably 118K...was overhauled 12k ago),
>
> starts right up and the bus drives beautifully (albeit a bit loud, but
>
> I suspect that's normal for the CAT). Tires are decent and body is
>
> excellent with no rust, dents, or missing parts.Onan gen is there...no
>
> idea if it works. It looks to be a pretty standard Wanderlodge in fair
>
> condition without any owner-modified upgrades. Can anyone give me a
>
> ballpark figure on what a coach of this vintage and condition should
>
> cost. I realize it's a bit difficult without knowing any more details.
>
>
>
> The roof has the overlapping sheets of corrugated-looking steel. Were
>
> they proned to leaks? I am thinking that plastic headliner in the bus
>
> would mask any potential leaky areas from being spotted on the inside.
>
>
>
> Any advice would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
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> -Tracey & Oscar E
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Maybe Buy The Bird Maybe Not? - squirrelyerk - 02-20-2006 15:20
Well we waited an hour too long and someone else bought the
Wanderlodge before we could make an offer. A good deal for someone we
feel. We'll keep our eyes open for another.
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "squirrelyerk"
<squirrelsaresoft@...> wrote:
>
> We are Airstream (1963 Overlander TT) owners involved in a partial
> restoration of said trailer. Not too expensive an endeavor since we
> are DIY'n it but a bigger job than we planned on.Thank goodness for
> the Airstream Forums!
> Which is why I seek info here. We just ran across a possible heckuva
> deal on a 1978 Wanderlodge 33'. The interior has not been babied, but
> is not terrible. A good cleaning and tear out the original green shag
> carpet is all she really needs in there.Original upholstery in great
> shape, original curtians can be cleaned. New Passenger seat. Windows
> and screens are in good shape with the exception of the pass side
> front window being cracked.The front heater has been removed,
> repaired, and set on top of the rear bed (nice new mattress) for
> reinstallation. As far as appliances, the PO said that he never tried
> them, but was told they worked...right, so we will assume they are
> mostly DOA to be safe. Been there, done that on the '63 Airstream! The
> CAT3208 has 18k on the odo (probably 118K...was overhauled 12k ago),
> starts right up and the bus drives beautifully (albeit a bit loud, but
> I suspect that's normal for the CAT). Tires are decent and body is
> excellent with no rust, dents, or missing parts.Onan gen is there...no
> idea if it works. It looks to be a pretty standard Wanderlodge in fair
> condition without any owner-modified upgrades. Can anyone give me a
> ballpark figure on what a coach of this vintage and condition should
> cost. I realize it's a bit difficult without knowing any more details.
>
> The roof has the overlapping sheets of corrugated-looking steel. Were
> they proned to leaks? I am thinking that plastic headliner in the bus
> would mask any potential leaky areas from being spotted on the inside.
>
> Any advice would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
> -Tracey & Oscar E
>
Maybe Buy The Bird Maybe Not? - erniecarpet@... - 02-20-2006 20:03
there is a bluebird listed on PPL's website. ernie-83pt40 in louisiana
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Maybe Buy The Bird Maybe Not? - margo - 02-21-2006 06:23
I'm in Houston and the Blue Bird at PPL, is a 83 35 footer. I know
several of the members including me from this list have gone and
looked at it. I see on the website that there is a Sale pending on it.
I really thought it was in very poor shape except the paint job is
better than the One we have for sale.
If any members are comming this way for the Lone Star Rally in Texas
this weekend and you have to pass thru Houston I'd appreciate if you
could stop by and see our 1979 Blue Bird thats for sale. I'd love to
have some imput from the list members due to so many joining and
looking for BB's. Our Bird needs a paint job but besides that its in
Great Shape. Inside is all original, very clean and very well taken
care of. In May we will have owned it for 4 years, we have never had
any type of problems with it. Plus my hubby is a X-Diesel Mechanic so
that helped on being able to service and keep everything running and
in top order. .
Thanks, Margo
79' 35'FC
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@... wrote:
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> there is a bluebird listed on PPL's website. ernie-83pt40 in
louisiana
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>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Maybe Buy The Bird Maybe Not? - mbulriss - 02-21-2006 06:45
Margo,
Bring your Bird over to Haven's Landing in Montegomery this weekend
and you'll be able to get all the inspections and 'opinions' that you
can stand. ;^) I believe there are about 20 Birds registered
currently, so there will be plenty of experienced owners there.
Hope to see you there.
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" (Almost typed "Stagecoach! by mistake!)
San Antonio, TX
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "margo"
>
>
> I'm in Houston and the Blue Bird at PPL, is a 83 35 footer. I know
> several of the members including me from this list have gone and
> looked at it. I see on the website that there is a Sale pending on it.
> I really thought it was in very poor shape except the paint job is
> better than the One we have for sale.
>
> If any members are comming this way for the Lone Star Rally in Texas
> this weekend and you have to pass thru Houston I'd appreciate if you
> could stop by and see our 1979 Blue Bird thats for sale. I'd love to
> have some imput from the list members due to so many joining and
> looking for BB's. Our Bird needs a paint job but besides that its in
> Great Shape. Inside is all original, very clean and very well taken
> care of. In May we will have owned it for 4 years, we have never had
> any type of problems with it. Plus my hubby is a X-Diesel Mechanic so
> that helped on being able to service and keep everything running and
> in top order. .
>
> Thanks, Margo
> 79' 35'FC
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@ wrote:
> >
> > there is a bluebird listed on PPL's website. ernie-83pt40 in
> louisiana
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
Maybe Buy The Bird Maybe Not? - margo - 02-21-2006 07:41
Mike I'd love to get over there. But Larry will not be in town for
the whole weekend so I can't drive over there without him. Thats why
I was asking if any one was going through Houston.
Whens the next Rally in Texas???
I'm thinking about taking our BB to PPL since the 83 is going for
nearly 18,000. Ours looks newer than that one and its really 4 years
newer than ours and I'm only wanting a few thousand more than it.
I've gotten quite a few calls but not from anyone wanting to pay a
fair price. Everyone wants me to damn near give it away, since I've
seen so many now, I feel like its a great price and its running
great, I'd have no problem going accross the USA.
Margo
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...>
wrote:
>
> Margo,
>
> Bring your Bird over to Haven's Landing in Montegomery this weekend
> and you'll be able to get all the inspections and 'opinions' that
you
> can stand. ;^) I believe there are about 20 Birds registered
> currently, so there will be plenty of experienced owners there.
>
> Hope to see you there.
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" (Almost typed "Stagecoach! by mistake!)
> San Antonio, TX
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "margo"
wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'm in Houston and the Blue Bird at PPL, is a 83 35 footer. I
know
> > several of the members including me from this list have gone and
> > looked at it. I see on the website that there is a Sale pending
on it.
> > I really thought it was in very poor shape except the paint job
is
> > better than the One we have for sale.
> >
> > If any members are comming this way for the Lone Star Rally in
Texas
> > this weekend and you have to pass thru Houston I'd appreciate if
you
> > could stop by and see our 1979 Blue Bird thats for sale. I'd
love to
> > have some imput from the list members due to so many joining and
> > looking for BB's. Our Bird needs a paint job but besides that
its in
> > Great Shape. Inside is all original, very clean and very well
taken
> > care of. In May we will have owned it for 4 years, we have never
had
> > any type of problems with it. Plus my hubby is a X-Diesel
Mechanic so
> > that helped on being able to service and keep everything running
and
> > in top order. .
> >
> > Thanks, Margo
> > 79' 35'FC
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@ wrote:
> > >
> > > there is a bluebird listed on PPL's website. ernie-83pt40 in
> > louisiana
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
Maybe Buy The Bird Maybe Not? - mbulriss - 02-21-2006 08:42
Margo,
Having just sold my 83 PT40, I am sitting here chuckling at your
comments about the potential 'buyers' that you have run into so far.
Hang in there. You will run across a knowledgeable buyer at some
point. Ignore the bottom-feeders looking for a steal.
I particularly liked the guy that called me on his cell while sitting
in front of my Bird and asked "Hey, I was wondering how much you
wanted for this Winnebago thing here with your phone number on it?!"
That was a very short conversation! Note to potential buyers: The
first question should not be "How much do you want for this thing"?
It's a dead give-away that you have no idea what you are looking at or
what it is worth. And maybe you are in the wrong market. I could
write a buyer's tutorial right now on what not to do when attempting
to negotiate a BB purchase.
I do not know right now when the next Rally is after Montgomery -
waiting on Tony Holtermann to post the calendar for the year that he
has developed. Should be in about 60 days though. It will be posted
on the forum.
How far are you from Montgomery in case people want to stop over and
look at the coach? You can contact me offline with contact info.
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "margo"
>
> Mike I'd love to get over there. But Larry will not be in town for
> the whole weekend so I can't drive over there without him. Thats why
> I was asking if any one was going through Houston.
>
> Whens the next Rally in Texas???
>
> I'm thinking about taking our BB to PPL since the 83 is going for
> nearly 18,000. Ours looks newer than that one and its really 4 years
> newer than ours and I'm only wanting a few thousand more than it.
> I've gotten quite a few calls but not from anyone wanting to pay a
> fair price. Everyone wants me to damn near give it away, since I've
> seen so many now, I feel like its a great price and its running
> great, I'd have no problem going accross the USA.
>
> Margo
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Margo,
> >
> > Bring your Bird over to Haven's Landing in Montegomery this weekend
> > and you'll be able to get all the inspections and 'opinions' that
> you
> > can stand. ;^) I believe there are about 20 Birds registered
> > currently, so there will be plenty of experienced owners there.
> >
> > Hope to see you there.
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" (Almost typed "Stagecoach! by mistake!)
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "margo"
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm in Houston and the Blue Bird at PPL, is a 83 35 footer. I
> know
> > > several of the members including me from this list have gone and
> > > looked at it. I see on the website that there is a Sale pending
> on it.
> > > I really thought it was in very poor shape except the paint job
> is
> > > better than the One we have for sale.
> > >
> > > If any members are comming this way for the Lone Star Rally in
> Texas
> > > this weekend and you have to pass thru Houston I'd appreciate if
> you
> > > could stop by and see our 1979 Blue Bird thats for sale. I'd
> love to
> > > have some imput from the list members due to so many joining and
> > > looking for BB's. Our Bird needs a paint job but besides that
> its in
> > > Great Shape. Inside is all original, very clean and very well
> taken
> > > care of. In May we will have owned it for 4 years, we have never
> had
> > > any type of problems with it. Plus my hubby is a X-Diesel
> Mechanic so
> > > that helped on being able to service and keep everything running
> and
> > > in top order. .
> > >
> > > Thanks, Margo
> > > 79' 35'FC
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > there is a bluebird listed on PPL's website. ernie-83pt40 in
> > > louisiana
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Maybe Buy The Bird Maybe Not? - ronmarabito2002 - 02-22-2006 04:40
Mike: The next Lone Star Birds Rally will be April 21-23 at Buckhorn
Lake Resort in Kerrville, TX. We were too late to schedule it at
another location. Shirley and I will be the hosts.
R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...> wrote:
>
> Margo,
>
> Having just sold my 83 PT40, I am sitting here chuckling at your
> comments about the potential 'buyers' that you have run into so far.
> Hang in there. You will run across a knowledgeable buyer at some
> point. Ignore the bottom-feeders looking for a steal.
>
> I particularly liked the guy that called me on his cell while sitting
> in front of my Bird and asked "Hey, I was wondering how much you
> wanted for this Winnebago thing here with your phone number on it?!"
> That was a very short conversation! Note to potential buyers: The
> first question should not be "How much do you want for this thing"?
> It's a dead give-away that you have no idea what you are looking at or
> what it is worth. And maybe you are in the wrong market. I could
> write a buyer's tutorial right now on what not to do when attempting
> to negotiate a BB purchase.
>
> I do not know right now when the next Rally is after Montgomery -
> waiting on Tony Holtermann to post the calendar for the year that he
> has developed. Should be in about 60 days though. It will be posted
> on the forum.
>
> How far are you from Montgomery in case people want to stop over and
> look at the coach? You can contact me offline with contact info.
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "margo"
> >
> > Mike I'd love to get over there. But Larry will not be in town for
> > the whole weekend so I can't drive over there without him. Thats why
> > I was asking if any one was going through Houston.
> >
> > Whens the next Rally in Texas???
> >
> > I'm thinking about taking our BB to PPL since the 83 is going for
> > nearly 18,000. Ours looks newer than that one and its really 4 years
> > newer than ours and I'm only wanting a few thousand more than it.
> > I've gotten quite a few calls but not from anyone wanting to pay a
> > fair price. Everyone wants me to damn near give it away, since I've
> > seen so many now, I feel like its a great price and its running
> > great, I'd have no problem going accross the USA.
> >
> > Margo
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Margo,
> > >
> > > Bring your Bird over to Haven's Landing in Montegomery this weekend
> > > and you'll be able to get all the inspections and 'opinions' that
> > you
> > > can stand. ;^) I believe there are about 20 Birds registered
> > > currently, so there will be plenty of experienced owners there.
> > >
> > > Hope to see you there.
> > >
> > > Mike Bulriss
> > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" (Almost typed "Stagecoach! by mistake!)
> > > San Antonio, TX
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "margo"
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm in Houston and the Blue Bird at PPL, is a 83 35 footer. I
> > know
> > > > several of the members including me from this list have gone and
> > > > looked at it. I see on the website that there is a Sale pending
> > on it.
> > > > I really thought it was in very poor shape except the paint job
> > is
> > > > better than the One we have for sale.
> > > >
> > > > If any members are comming this way for the Lone Star Rally in
> > Texas
> > > > this weekend and you have to pass thru Houston I'd appreciate if
> > you
> > > > could stop by and see our 1979 Blue Bird thats for sale. I'd
> > love to
> > > > have some imput from the list members due to so many joining and
> > > > looking for BB's. Our Bird needs a paint job but besides that
> > its in
> > > > Great Shape. Inside is all original, very clean and very well
> > taken
> > > > care of. In May we will have owned it for 4 years, we have never
> > had
> > > > any type of problems with it. Plus my hubby is a X-Diesel
> > Mechanic so
> > > > that helped on being able to service and keep everything running
> > and
> > > > in top order. .
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Margo
> > > > 79' 35'FC
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > there is a bluebird listed on PPL's website. ernie-83pt40 in
> > > > louisiana
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>