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New Questions: jack springs,upholstery,microwave,fridge - birdshill123 - 04-27-2006 12:24

Our new to us Fc does not have the original Sharp conevction/micro.
It has been replaced with a conventional micro. Is there a currently
mfd. easily obtainable micro/convection that will fit in that space?

The left rear jack has one spring that is disconnected at the
bottom. We tried quickly to reconnect but this seems like an
impossible task and did not have a lot of time. Does the jack have
to be removed to replace the spring? Is there a "trick" method? I
notice that one of the jacks had heavy s hooks at the bottom to
connect the springs.

At one time the original owner removed the booth dinette and
installed a bed. This has been removed and the booth reinstalled.
They did a nice job but on the outer wall under the table the white
pleated upholstery(same as headliner) has been removed and the outer
steel wall is visible. Can this material still be obtained?

The fridge is still the original. The unit has very low miles
(64,000) and hasnt been used much. Although the 3801 Dometic still
works my own experience is that it probably will not last long. Am I
right in that belief or would you just use it till it goes (usually
when you are in the hills 2000 miles from nowhere)?

Thanks Bruce 1988 FC 300 HP Turbo Cat!!


New Questions: jack springs,upholstery,microwave,fridge - pattypape - 04-27-2006 13:56

We decided that the original frig would probably quit, when we were
using it. ( when else would it quit ? ) Things always cost more and
are more inconvenient on the road.
Replaced it last Fall with a Dometic, RM 2820. It is a really snug
fit, we did not want to loose the cabinet at the top or the drawer
at the bottom, So we installed it ourselves.
Some installers have changed these two storage areas to make things
fit. IF you decide to replace the frig. we can give a few
suggestion.

If you are on your way from Ohio to park the Bird in Mexico, while
living in Canada, I strongly suggest that you stop and have
Jeff Miller check out the coach and determine, the priority list for
fixing things up. http://millercoachworks.com/

He is in Western Michigan on your way to Chicago. Just west of Ohio.

We really like our 88 FC,

Bill


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
wrote:
>
> Our new to us Fc does not have the original Sharp
conevction/micro.
> It has been replaced with a conventional micro. Is there a
currently
> mfd. easily obtainable micro/convection that will fit in that
space?
>
> The left rear jack has one spring that is disconnected at the
> bottom. We tried quickly to reconnect but this seems like an
> impossible task and did not have a lot of time. Does the jack
have
> to be removed to replace the spring? Is there a "trick" method? I
> notice that one of the jacks had heavy s hooks at the bottom to
> connect the springs.
>
> At one time the original owner removed the booth dinette and
> installed a bed. This has been removed and the booth reinstalled.
> They did a nice job but on the outer wall under the table the
white
> pleated upholstery(same as headliner) has been removed and the
outer
> steel wall is visible. Can this material still be obtained?
>
> The fridge is still the original. The unit has very low miles
> (64,000) and hasnt been used much. Although the 3801 Dometic still
> works my own experience is that it probably will not last long. Am
I
> right in that belief or would you just use it till it goes
(usually
> when you are in the hills 2000 miles from nowhere)?
>
> Thanks Bruce 1988 FC 300 HP Turbo Cat!!
>


New Questions: jack springs,upholstery,microwave,fridge - pattypape - 04-27-2006 13:59

Congratulations Bruce,


We decided that the original frig would probably quit, when we were
using it. ( when else would it quit ? ) Things always cost more and
are more inconvenient on the road.
Replaced it last Fall with a Dometic, RM 2820. It is a really snug
fit, we did not want to loose the cabinet at the top or the drawer
at the bottom, So we installed it ourselves.
Some installers have changed these two storage areas to make things
fit. IF you decide to replace the frig. we can give a few
suggestion.

If you are on your way from Ohio to park the Bird in Mexico, while
living in Canada, I strongly suggest that you stop and have
Jeff Miller check out the coach and determine, the priority list for
fixing things up. http://millercoachworks.com/

He is in Western Michigan on your way to Chicago.
He may be on your route West of Ohio.

We really like our 88 FC,

Bill


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
wrote:
>
> Our new to us Fc does not have the original Sharp
conevction/micro.
> It has been replaced with a conventional micro. Is there a
currently
> mfd. easily obtainable micro/convection that will fit in that
space?
>
> The left rear jack has one spring that is disconnected at the
> bottom. We tried quickly to reconnect but this seems like an
> impossible task and did not have a lot of time. Does the jack
have
> to be removed to replace the spring? Is there a "trick" method? I
> notice that one of the jacks had heavy s hooks at the bottom to
> connect the springs.
>
> At one time the original owner removed the booth dinette and
> installed a bed. This has been removed and the booth reinstalled.
> They did a nice job but on the outer wall under the table the
white
> pleated upholstery(same as headliner) has been removed and the
outer
> steel wall is visible. Can this material still be obtained?
>
> The fridge is still the original. The unit has very low miles
> (64,000) and hasnt been used much. Although the 3801 Dometic still
> works my own experience is that it probably will not last long. Am
I
> right in that belief or would you just use it till it goes
(usually
> when you are in the hills 2000 miles from nowhere)?
>
> Thanks Bruce 1988 FC 300 HP Turbo Cat!!
>


New Questions: jack springs,upholstery,microwave,fridge - Jeff Miller - 04-27-2006 14:23

Microwave: I'm told that there is still a Sharp manufactured, one
sold by Sears, Elmer should have the model number on that one.

The jack springs: On our '88, I found it easiest to put the bottom of
the spring on first, then the top with a prybar. there shouldn't be
any s-hooks.

That is the wide-rib wall/ceiling materal, it was available a couple
of years ago from BB, not sure if it still is. Good luck.

3801 Refrig: I have at least one set of all of the electtronics,
burner, etc. for that unit (donated by Bill and I don't remember who
else). If you need any of it, I'd love to see it find a good home. I
threw away the last pile of used Dometic electronics, ... I'm told
the 3801 is an expensive board so I've resisted tossing it so far.

I will be surprised if the original refrigerator will stay more than
25degrees above outside temp. It will probably freeze well, but the
refrigerator section will be weak, so on an 85degree day, ... the
math is ugly for your lunch meat. You won't find out until it is warm
out, the refrigerator is loaded with your favorite foods, and you're
on a trip. Replace the refrigerator, or at least the cooling unit if
you have a particular love for that unit.

- Jeff Miller
in Holland, MI


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
wrote:
>
> Our new to us Fc does not have the original Sharp
conevction/micro.
> It has been replaced with a conventional micro. Is there a
currently
> mfd. easily obtainable micro/convection that will fit in that space?
>
> The left rear jack has one spring that is disconnected at the
> bottom. We tried quickly to reconnect but this seems like an
> impossible task and did not have a lot of time. Does the jack have
> to be removed to replace the spring? Is there a "trick" method? I
> notice that one of the jacks had heavy s hooks at the bottom to
> connect the springs.
>
> At one time the original owner removed the booth dinette and
> installed a bed. This has been removed and the booth reinstalled.
> They did a nice job but on the outer wall under the table the
white
> pleated upholstery(same as headliner) has been removed and the
outer
> steel wall is visible. Can this material still be obtained?
>
> The fridge is still the original. The unit has very low miles
> (64,000) and hasnt been used much. Although the 3801 Dometic still
> works my own experience is that it probably will not last long. Am
I
> right in that belief or would you just use it till it goes (usually
> when you are in the hills 2000 miles from nowhere)?
>
> Thanks Bruce 1988 FC 300 HP Turbo Cat!!
>


New Questions: jack springs,upholstery,microwave,fridge - Stephen Birtles - 04-27-2006 15:27

The wall roof panelling is still availbale from Bluebird but you be
shocked at the price is around 250.00 a sheet nuless there has been a
recent pricwe dorp but i dont think so
Stephen 77fc35


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
wrote:
>
> Our new to us Fc does not have the original Sharp conevction/micro.
> It has been replaced with a conventional micro. Is there a currently
> mfd. easily obtainable micro/convection that will fit in that space?
>
> The left rear jack has one spring that is disconnected at the
> bottom. We tried quickly to reconnect but this seems like an
> impossible task and did not have a lot of time. Does the jack have
> to be removed to replace the spring? Is there a "trick" method? I
> notice that one of the jacks had heavy s hooks at the bottom to
> connect the springs.
>
> At one time the original owner removed the booth dinette and
> installed a bed. This has been removed and the booth reinstalled.
> They did a nice job but on the outer wall under the table the white
> pleated upholstery(same as headliner) has been removed and the outer
> steel wall is visible. Can this material still be obtained?
>
> The fridge is still the original. The unit has very low miles
> (64,000) and hasnt been used much. Although the 3801 Dometic still
> works my own experience is that it probably will not last long. Am I
> right in that belief or would you just use it till it goes (usually
> when you are in the hills 2000 miles from nowhere)?
>
> Thanks Bruce 1988 FC 300 HP Turbo Cat!!
>


New Questions: jack springs,upholstery,microwave,fridge - Rob Robinson - 04-27-2006 15:40

Bruce if you were keeping your bird in Canada or US I would say keep the
refrigerator until goes. You can keep things pretty cool with a block or two
of ice in the old box. However I wouldn't want to be somewhere remote where I
wouldn't be able to get a new unit within a week or so. Congratulations on
your Bird

Rob, Sue & Merlin
94 WLWB


Quoting birdshill123 :

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>
> Our new to us Fc does not have the original Sharp conevction/micro.
>
> It has been replaced with a conventional micro. Is there a currently
>
> mfd. easily obtainable micro/convection that will fit in that space?
>
>
>
> The left rear jack has one spring that is disconnected at the
>
> bottom. We tried quickly to reconnect but this seems like an
>
> impossible task and did not have a lot of time. Does the jack have
>
> to be removed to replace the spring? Is there a "trick" method? I
>
> notice that one of the jacks had heavy s hooks at the bottom to
>
> connect the springs.
>
>
>
> At one time the original owner removed the booth dinette and
>
> installed a bed. This has been removed and the booth reinstalled.
>
> They did a nice job but on the outer wall under the table the white
>
> pleated upholstery(same as headliner) has been removed and the outer
>
> steel wall is visible. Can this material still be obtained?
>
>
>
> The fridge is still the original. The unit has very low miles
>
> (64,000) and hasnt been used much. Although the 3801 Dometic still
>
> works my own experience is that it probably will not last long. Am I
>
> right in that belief or would you just use it till it goes (usually
>
> when you are in the hills 2000 miles from nowhere)?
>
>
>
> Thanks Bruce 1988 FC 300 HP Turbo Cat!!
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New Questions: jack springs,upholstery,microwave,fridge - pattypape - 04-27-2006 22:42

Bruce

You may be able to stretch or pry the spring and add flat
wooden spacers in between the spring coils,
After a few spacers the spring may be longer.
I have never attemped this task.
Where in Ohio? We are just North of Toledo

Bill 88 FC Michigan




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
wrote:
>
> Our new to us Fc does not have the original Sharp
conevction/micro.
> It has been replaced with a conventional micro. Is there a
currently
> mfd. easily obtainable micro/convection that will fit in that
space?
>
> The left rear jack has one spring that is disconnected at the
> bottom. We tried quickly to reconnect but this seems like an
> impossible task and did not have a lot of time. Does the jack
have
> to be removed to replace the spring? Is there a "trick" method? I
> notice that one of the jacks had heavy s hooks at the bottom to
> connect the springs.
>
> At one time the original owner removed the booth dinette and
> installed a bed. This has been removed and the booth reinstalled.
> They did a nice job but on the outer wall under the table the
white
> pleated upholstery(same as headliner) has been removed and the
outer
> steel wall is visible. Can this material still be obtained?
>
> The fridge is still the original. The unit has very low miles
> (64,000) and hasnt been used much. Although the 3801 Dometic still
> works my own experience is that it probably will not last long. Am
I
> right in that belief or would you just use it till it goes
(usually
> when you are in the hills 2000 miles from nowhere)?
>
> Thanks Bruce 1988 FC 300 HP Turbo Cat!!
>


New Questions: jack springs,upholstery,microwave,fridge - Jack Bentley - 04-27-2006 23:04

Hello Bruce,

This worked for me:

Place the spring on a sturdy work bench and extend it with a come-a-long. Cut a
number of small wooden blocks and place these in the open spaces of the extended
spring and then let the pressure off the spring. It will collapse to an
extended length. Reinstall the spring on the jack. When you then extend the
jack all the way down the blocks are easily removed.

This procedure takes some practice but did work. Be sure the spring is
installed as to counter the sideways force of it's partner spring or the jack
will be twisted.

Good luck,

Jack
'89 "FC 35 "Traveller"
Franklin, NC

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New Questions: jack springs,upholstery,microwave,fridge - birdshill123 - 04-27-2006 23:38

Bill: Bird is in Columbus area.

Bruce


New Questions: jack springs,upholstery,microwave,fridge - George Lowry - 04-28-2006 03:22

Bruce,

I suggest that you contact HWH and follow their advice on the proper method.
They are great with the help.

George Lowry
'06 Alpine Apex = Formerly '95 WBDA 4203
Spearfish, SD - now in Stockton, CA


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Hello Bruce,

This worked for me:

Place the spring on a sturdy work bench and extend it with a come-a-long.
Cut a number of small wooden blocks and place these in the open spaces of
the extended spring and then let the pressure off the spring. It will
collapse to an extended length. Reinstall the spring on the jack. When you
then extend the jack all the way down the blocks are easily removed.

This procedure takes some practice but did work. Be sure the spring is
installed as to counter the sideways force of it's partner spring or the
jack will be twisted.

Good luck,

Jack
'89 "FC 35 "Traveller"
Franklin, NC

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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