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'80 35FC present parket value help needed please - krminyl@... - 09-05-2006 01:02 Fix the darn thing, and keep it. If it's paid for, and you don't need the money to pay for a life-saving surgery, keep it. How can you get rid of something that sounds like you really enjoy? Your issues are little things, and once fixed, you'll be glad you kept it...really. Kevin Mc YL CA' 86 38PT [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] '80 35FC present parket value help needed please - Adria Haynes - 09-05-2006 04:47 Gurus, It seems that since we bought our beloved 1980 35 FC three summers ago - the market went through the floor. It's a bummer, but it is what it is. We are now thinking of selling it and I'd like some help establishing what a realistic price range is for what I have. Like I said, it's a 1980 35FC BB Wanderlodge. Rear queen bed setup and a desk in the front between the curb side closet and couch. It's got 99k miles on the bus and 33k miles on a brand new factory replacement 3208 catapillar diesel and the original 4 speed allison. It starts up almost instantly everytime (when the batteries are charged), runs excellent, shifts perfectly and I actually LOVE to drive the darn thing for some reason. I'm told that it has the swing out radiator, and the generator is a big Kohler diesel that also starts everytime. It has a newer toilet and a heated marble floor. As far as I know, the only thing is needs is the water heater element replaced and everything else seems to work fine. The outside needs paint. It's lived outside and it shows. The tires don't all match, but all have plenty of tread and I'd use them on a long trip tomorrow if I had to without worry. The aluminum wheels could be brought back, but I'd probably spring for chome liners first. 3 furnaces, 3 roof airs, zip-dee awning, etc. - all the typical bone stock 1980 features. Anyways, I know the exterior conditions are points against, but I figure the new motor should help to balance that out to some degree for a true BB enthusiast. Anyways, I've seen where some garage queens are still up for sale in the upper 30's, so - given my description, would $32k be a reasonable starting point? If not, please tell me what is. I hate to see it go, but it may be inevitable. Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts. '80 35FC present parket value help needed please - Adria Haynes - 09-05-2006 05:58 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, krminyl@... wrote: > > Fix the darn thing, and keep it. If it's paid for, and you don't need the > money to pay for a life-saving surgery, keep it. How can you get rid of > something that sounds like you really enjoy? > > Your issues are little things, and once fixed, you'll be glad you kept > it...really. > > Kevin Mc > YL CA' > 86 38PT > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Well it's not paid for - not even close. We DO enjoy it when we use it, but it isn't often enough to justify the expense and our situations and priorities have changed. We just had our 4th child and our oldest just started private kindergarten. They are 5,4,2, and new. > I figured that they could go to public schools, and my wife thought they should all go to private schools. I decided to compromise and send them to private schools. Such a compromise requires evaluating outgoing cashflows, justifying those expenses, and making adjustments accordingly. It's not something I need to do TODAY, but I don't see us deciding to continue to keep it for long. Emotions are really the only thing keeping it here so far. '80 35FC present parket value help needed please - Eric Johnson - 09-06-2006 00:09 Hello Adria, I'm no guru, but I haven't observed that the market for preowned BB's has "gone through the floor". The entire motorhome market, just like the house market, is a bit soft now due to higher interest rates and fuel prices, but should come back in time as people and the economy adjust to these new realities. The older coaches, if well maintained, are a real bargain as they don't depreciate at anywhere near the rate of a new coach and FC's are fairly fuel efficient as coaches go. If I were selling my coach today I would do the following: 1. Take a good set of interior/exterior photos 2. Draft a complete and accurate description of the coach 3. Collect and organize all available maintenance records 4. Scan BirdConnection, FMCA magazine, WLForum and Vintage Bird listings for comparables. 5. Do an advanced search on Ebay for any completed comparable sales. 6. Adjust my price up or down against the comparable listings for known difficiencies or advantages. 7. Take a weekend trip somewhere in the coach with the family and ask myself if I really want to sell it. 8. List the coach on all of the sites mentioned in step 4. 9. Patiently wait for the right buyer to come along. Regards, Eric in San Antonio 84FC35SBWL2 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Adria Haynes" <mrbeebody@...> wrote: > > Gurus, > > It seems that since we bought our beloved 1980 35 FC three summers > ago - the market went through the floor. It's a bummer, but it is > what it is. > > We are now thinking of selling it and I'd like some help > establishing what a realistic price range is for what I have. > > Like I said, it's a 1980 35FC BB Wanderlodge. Rear queen bed setup > and a desk in the front between the curb side closet and couch. > It's got 99k miles on the bus and 33k miles on a brand new factory > replacement 3208 catapillar diesel and the original 4 speed > allison. It starts up almost instantly everytime (when the > batteries are charged), runs excellent, shifts perfectly and I > actually LOVE to drive the darn thing for some reason. > > I'm told that it has the swing out radiator, and the generator is a > big Kohler diesel that also starts everytime. It has a newer toilet > and a heated marble floor. As far as I know, the only thing is > needs is the water heater element replaced and everything else seems > to work fine. > > The outside needs paint. It's lived outside and it shows. The > tires don't all match, but all have plenty of tread and I'd use them > on a long trip tomorrow if I had to without worry. The aluminum > wheels could be brought back, but I'd probably spring for chome > liners first. > > 3 furnaces, 3 roof airs, zip-dee awning, etc. - all the typical bone > stock 1980 features. > > Anyways, I know the exterior conditions are points against, but I > figure the new motor should help to balance that out to some degree > for a true BB enthusiast. > > Anyways, I've seen where some garage queens are still up for sale in > the upper 30's, so - given my description, would $32k be a > reasonable starting point? If not, please tell me what is. > > I hate to see it go, but it may be inevitable. > > Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts. > '80 35FC present parket value help needed please - djlcanuck - 09-09-2006 16:51 And there are plenty of us lurkers out here look'n for the right bird to pounce on. So don'tbe afraid to list. If it sells for the price you need your happy, if it doesn't you tried and be happy you kept her. If you want more kids I would trade one or two of mine for a good bird. Doug Long Edmonton Wanabee --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Johnson" wrote: > > Hello Adria, > I'm no guru, but I haven't observed that the market for preowned BB's has "gone through > the floor". The entire motorhome market, just like the house market, is a bit soft now due > to higher interest rates and fuel prices, but should come back in time as people and the > economy adjust to these new realities. The older coaches, if well maintained, are a real > bargain as they don't depreciate at anywhere near the rate of a new coach and FC's are > fairly fuel efficient as coaches go. > > If I were selling my coach today I would do the following: > 1. Take a good set of interior/exterior photos > 2. Draft a complete and accurate description of the coach > 3. Collect and organize all available maintenance records > 4. Scan BirdConnection, FMCA magazine, WLForum and Vintage Bird listings for > comparables. > 5. Do an advanced search on Ebay for any completed comparable sales. > 6. Adjust my price up or down against the comparable listings for known difficiencies or > advantages. > 7. Take a weekend trip somewhere in the coach with the family and ask myself if I really > want to sell it. > 8. List the coach on all of the sites mentioned in step 4. > 9. Patiently wait for the right buyer to come along. > > Regards, Eric in San Antonio > 84FC35SBWL2 > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Adria Haynes" <mrbeebody@> wrote: > > > > Gurus, > > > > It seems that since we bought our beloved 1980 35 FC three summers > > ago - the market went through the floor. It's a bummer, but it is > > what it is. > > > > We are now thinking of selling it and I'd like some help > > establishing what a realistic price range is for what I have. > > > > Like I said, it's a 1980 35FC BB Wanderlodge. Rear queen bed setup > > and a desk in the front between the curb side closet and couch. > > It's got 99k miles on the bus and 33k miles on a brand new factory > > replacement 3208 catapillar diesel and the original 4 speed > > allison. It starts up almost instantly everytime (when the > > batteries are charged), runs excellent, shifts perfectly and I > > actually LOVE to drive the darn thing for some reason. > > > > I'm told that it has the swing out radiator, and the generator is a > > big Kohler diesel that also starts everytime. It has a newer toilet > > and a heated marble floor. As far as I know, the only thing is > > needs is the water heater element replaced and everything else seems > > to work fine. > > > > The outside needs paint. It's lived outside and it shows. The > > tires don't all match, but all have plenty of tread and I'd use them > > on a long trip tomorrow if I had to without worry. The aluminum > > wheels could be brought back, but I'd probably spring for chome > > liners first. > > > > 3 furnaces, 3 roof airs, zip-dee awning, etc. - all the typical bone > > stock 1980 features. > > > > Anyways, I know the exterior conditions are points against, but I > > figure the new motor should help to balance that out to some degree > > for a true BB enthusiast. > > > > Anyways, I've seen where some garage queens are still up for sale in > > the upper 30's, so - given my description, would $32k be a > > reasonable starting point? If not, please tell me what is. > > > > I hate to see it go, but it may be inevitable. > > > > Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts. > > > '80 35FC present parket value help needed please - johngilmoremd@... - 09-10-2006 01:43 Hello Doug, I am/was one of those lurkers who was looking. Years ago I owned an 83 FC 35. We had a lot of fun and some incredible trips with her. But we sold due to schedule changes and a new baby on the way. Just didn't think we would be camping much for a while. So now that we have a spunky 2 year old daughter and 11 year old son we have caught the camping and weekend adventure bug again. This time around I was hunting for something smaller, a travel trailer actually, just to make it easier to store. Then like a lead pipe hitting me on the head...there was my coach listed on a local site for sale! Not the same one but the same model...an 83 FC 35 in almost perfect condition! I sent an email with 20 questions to the dealer who had accepted it as trade in. They couldn't even answer the questions, had no idea. Yesterday I took the gang and we had a look at it. The experience was so nostalgic that it's hard to describe. None of the "seasoned" salespersons wanted to assist. They knew nothing about it and in fact I believe they were intimidated by the cockpit and the intricate workings of the coach. So I got the newbie sales-kid and out into the rain we went. I taught him about the coach over the next 3 hours. This gorgeous machine has the 3208 turbo, Jake brake, new fridge, ducted air, nice sound system....the tv over the pilot's chair works and even has a good picture. Back up cam works great and every appliance functions properly. She has the original paint and it looks good....orange and brown. Apparently was stored indoors. The diamond plating on top is mint. It has a diamond plated spare tire holder on the top at the back with a winch mechanism to load/unload the spare. I didn't have an opportunity to pull the front panels to verify that the rad is mod for swing out but I did see some hinges which looked like they dropped the bumper. So I think it's got the swing out mod. Every switch, button and control that I checked worked fine. Slide out mechanism was smooth and the genny started right up. Doghouse has the original sound and heat proofing material. Front air and heat works great. Even the misters on the wipers work. The interior looks like it has had very little wear. Tires are practically new and match all the way around. I was stunned. I really couldn't believe how well this baby had been loved over the years. She drove like a dream. So I took a stab at the dealership by asking more questions. When were the injectors last replaced? (2002) Are they sure about the mileage? (65K) etc. Well, to make a long story short, I offered them half what they were asking. After several more go 'rounds with the sales manager they accepted the offer. Frankly I'm still in disbelief. Now that diesel is back down to $2.39 I'm going to fill the tank and get ready for next weekend. That having all been said, this particular coach needs to go to a full timer. It's too sweet to sit and only be occasionally used. I will most likely look to trade it for a toy hauler or outright sale to the right person. I don't see these coaches as just commodities to be bought and sold. They are fine machines and should be owned by individuals who understand and appreciate them. So, keep looking. Your bird is out there. -Jack 83 FC 35 Houston -----Original Message----- From: dj.long@... To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 11:51 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: '80 35FC present parket value help needed please And there are plenty of us lurkers out here look'n for the right bird to pounce on. So don'tbe afraid to list. If it sells for the price you need your happy, if it doesn't you tried and be happy you kept her. If you want more kids I would trade one or two of mine for a good bird. Doug Long Edmonton Wanabee --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Johnson" wrote: > > Hello Adria, > I'm no guru, but I haven't observed that the market for preowned BB's has "gone through > the floor". The entire motorhome market, just like the house market, is a bit soft now due > to higher interest rates and fuel prices, but should come back in time as people and the > economy adjust to these new realities. The older coaches, if well maintained, are a real > bargain as they don't depreciate at anywhere near the rate of a new coach and FC's are > fairly fuel efficient as coaches go. > > If I were selling my coach today I would do the following: > 1. Take a good set of interior/exterior photos > 2. Draft a complete and accurate description of the coach > 3. Collect and organize all available maintenance records > 4. Scan BirdConnection, FMCA magazine, WLForum and Vintage Bird listings for > comparables. > 5. Do an advanced search on Ebay for any completed comparable sales. > 6. Adjust my price up or down against the comparable listings for known difficiencies or > advantages. > 7. Take a weekend trip somewhere in the coach with the family and ask myself if I really > want to sell it. > 8. List the coach on all of the sites mentioned in step 4. > 9. Patiently wait for the right buyer to come along. > > Regards, Eric in San Antonio > 84FC35SBWL2 > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Adria Haynes" <mrbeebody@> wrote: > > > > Gurus, > > > > It seems that since we bought our beloved 1980 35 FC three summers > > ago - the market went through the floor. It's a bummer, but it is > > what it is. > > > > We are now thinking of selling it and I'd like some help > > establishing what a realistic price range is for what I have. > > > > Like I said, it's a 1980 35FC BB Wanderlodge. Rear queen bed setup > > and a desk in the front between the curb side closet and couch. > > It's got 99k miles on the bus and 33k miles on a brand new factory > > replacement 3208 catapillar diesel and the original 4 speed > > allison. It starts up almost instantly everytime (when the > > batteries are charged), runs excellent, shifts perfectly and I > > actually LOVE to drive the darn thing for some reason. > > > > I'm told that it has the swing out radiator, and the generator is a > > big Kohler diesel that also starts everytime. It has a newer toilet > > and a heated marble floor. As far as I know, the only thing is > > needs is the water heater element replaced and everything else seems > > to work fine. > > > > The outside needs paint. It's lived outside and it shows. The > > tires don't all match, but all have plenty of tread and I'd use them > > on a long trip tomorrow if I had to without worry. The aluminum > > wheels could be brought back, but I'd probably spring for chome > > liners first. > > > > 3 furnaces, 3 roof airs, zip-dee awning, etc. - all the typical bone > > stock 1980 features. > > > > Anyways, I know the exterior conditions are points against, but I > > figure the new motor should help to balance that out to some degree > > for a true BB enthusiast. > > > > Anyways, I've seen where some garage queens are still up for sale in > > the upper 30's, so - given my description, would $32k be a > > reasonable starting point? If not, please tell me what is. > > > > I hate to see it go, but it may be inevitable. > > > > Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts. > > > Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:WanderlodgeForum-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] '80 35FC present parket value help needed please - Tom - 09-10-2006 02:34 Hi Jack, Are you looking to sell your Bird? Tom- Who is looking for the right BB Boatman1197@... johngilmoremd@... wrote: Hello Doug, I am/was one of those lurkers who was looking. Years ago I owned an 83 FC 35. We had a lot of fun and some incredible trips with her. But we sold due to schedule changes and a new baby on the way. Just didn't think we would be camping much for a while. So now that we have a spunky 2 year old daughter and 11 year old son we have caught the camping and weekend adventure bug again. This time around I was hunting for something smaller, a travel trailer actually, just to make it easier to store. Then like a lead pipe hitting me on the head...there was my coach listed on a local site for sale! Not the same one but the same model...an 83 FC 35 in almost perfect condition! I sent an email with 20 questions to the dealer who had accepted it as trade in. They couldn't even answer the questions, had no idea. Yesterday I took the gang and we had a look at it. The experience was so nostalgic that it's hard to describe. None of the "seasoned" salespersons wanted to assist. They knew nothing about it and in fact I believe they were intimidated by the cockpit and the intricate workings of the coach. So I got the newbie sales-kid and out into the rain we went. I taught him about the coach over the next 3 hours. This gorgeous machine has the 3208 turbo, Jake brake, new fridge, ducted air, nice sound system....the tv over the pilot's chair works and even has a good picture. Back up cam works great and every appliance functions properly. She has the original paint and it looks good....orange and brown. Apparently was stored indoors. The diamond plating on top is mint. It has a diamond plated spare tire holder on the top at the back with a winch mechanism to load/unload the spare. I didn't have an opportunity to pull the front panels to verify that the rad is mod for swing out but I did see some hinges which looked like they dropped the bumper. So I think it's got the swing out mod. Every switch, button and control that I checked worked fine. Slide out mechanism was smooth and the genny started right up. Doghouse has the original sound and heat proofing material. Front air and heat works great. Even the misters on the wipers work. The interior looks like it has had very little wear. Tires are practically new and match all the way around. I was stunned. I really couldn't believe how well this baby had been loved over the years. She drove like a dream. So I took a stab at the dealership by asking more questions. When were the injectors last replaced? (2002) Are they sure about the mileage? (65K) etc. Well, to make a long story short, I offered them half what they were asking. After several more go 'rounds with the sales manager they accepted the offer. Frankly I'm still in disbelief. Now that diesel is back down to $2.39 I'm going to fill the tank and get ready for next weekend. That having all been said, this particular coach needs to go to a full timer. It's too sweet to sit and only be occasionally used. I will most likely look to trade it for a toy hauler or outright sale to the right person. I don't see these coaches as just commodities to be bought and sold. They are fine machines and should be owned by individuals who understand and appreciate them. So, keep looking. Your bird is out there. -Jack 83 FC 35 Houston -----Original Message----- From: dj.long@... To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 11:51 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: '80 35FC present parket value help needed please And there are plenty of us lurkers out here look'n for the right bird to pounce on. So don'tbe afraid to list. If it sells for the price you need your happy, if it doesn't you tried and be happy you kept her. If you want more kids I would trade one or two of mine for a good bird. Doug Long Edmonton Wanabee --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Johnson" wrote: > > Hello Adria, > I'm no guru, but I haven't observed that the market for preowned BB's has "gone through > the floor". The entire motorhome market, just like the house market, is a bit soft now due > to higher interest rates and fuel prices, but should come back in time as people and the > economy adjust to these new realities. The older coaches, if well maintained, are a real > bargain as they don't depreciate at anywhere near the rate of a new coach and FC's are > fairly fuel efficient as coaches go. > > If I were selling my coach today I would do the following: > 1. Take a good set of interior/exterior photos > 2. Draft a complete and accurate description of the coach > 3. Collect and organize all available maintenance records > 4. Scan BirdConnection, FMCA magazine, WLForum and Vintage Bird listings for > comparables. > 5. Do an advanced search on Ebay for any completed comparable sales. > 6. Adjust my price up or down against the comparable listings for known difficiencies or > advantages. > 7. Take a weekend trip somewhere in the coach with the family and ask myself if I really > want to sell it. > 8. List the coach on all of the sites mentioned in step 4. > 9. Patiently wait for the right buyer to come along. > > Regards, Eric in San Antonio > 84FC35SBWL2 > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Adria Haynes" <mrbeebody@> wrote: > > > > Gurus, > > > > It seems that since we bought our beloved 1980 35 FC three summers > > ago - the market went through the floor. It's a bummer, but it is > > what it is. > > > > We are now thinking of selling it and I'd like some help > > establishing what a realistic price range is for what I have. > > > > Like I said, it's a 1980 35FC BB Wanderlodge. Rear queen bed setup > > and a desk in the front between the curb side closet and couch. > > It's got 99k miles on the bus and 33k miles on a brand new factory > > replacement 3208 catapillar diesel and the original 4 speed > > allison. It starts up almost instantly everytime (when the > > batteries are charged), runs excellent, shifts perfectly and I > > actually LOVE to drive the darn thing for some reason. > > > > I'm told that it has the swing out radiator, and the generator is a > > big Kohler diesel that also starts everytime. It has a newer toilet > > and a heated marble floor. As far as I know, the only thing is > > needs is the water heater element replaced and everything else seems > > to work fine. > > > > The outside needs paint. It's lived outside and it shows. The > > tires don't all match, but all have plenty of tread and I'd use them > > on a long trip tomorrow if I had to without worry. The aluminum > > wheels could be brought back, but I'd probably spring for chome > > liners first. > > > > 3 furnaces, 3 roof airs, zip-dee awning, etc. - all the typical bone > > stock 1980 features. > > > > Anyways, I know the exterior conditions are points against, but I > > figure the new motor should help to balance that out to some degree > > for a true BB enthusiast. > > > > Anyways, I've seen where some garage queens are still up for sale in > > the upper 30's, so - given my description, would $32k be a > > reasonable starting point? If not, please tell me what is. > > > > I hate to see it go, but it may be inevitable. > > > > Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts. > > > Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:WanderlodgeForum-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com __________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] '80 35FC present parket value help needed please - GLOBE1969 - 09-10-2006 05:07 Hello: I am in Austin, Tx I would be interested if you want to sell. Gail Remy --- johngilmoremd@... wrote: > Hello Doug, > > I am/was one of those lurkers who was looking. > Years ago I owned an 83 FC 35. We had a lot of fun > and some incredible trips with her. But we sold due > to schedule changes and a new baby on the way. Just > didn't think we would be camping much for a while. > > So now that we have a spunky 2 year old daughter > and 11 year old son we have caught the camping and > weekend adventure bug again. This time around I was > hunting for something smaller, a travel trailer > actually, just to make it easier to store. > > Then like a lead pipe hitting me on the > head...there was my coach listed on a local site for > sale! Not the same one but the same model...an 83 FC > 35 in almost perfect condition! I sent an email with > 20 questions to the dealer who had accepted it as > trade in. They couldn't even answer the questions, > had no idea. > > Yesterday I took the gang and we had a look at it. > The experience was so nostalgic that it's hard to > describe. None of the "seasoned" salespersons wanted > to assist. They knew nothing about it and in fact I > believe they were intimidated by the cockpit and the > intricate workings of the coach. So I got the newbie > sales-kid and out into the rain we went. I taught > him about the coach over the next 3 hours. > > This gorgeous machine has the 3208 turbo, Jake > brake, new fridge, ducted air, nice sound > system....the tv over the pilot's chair works and > even has a good picture. Back up cam works great and > every appliance functions properly. She has the > original paint and it looks good....orange and > brown. Apparently was stored indoors. The diamond > plating on top is mint. It has a diamond plated > spare tire holder on the top at the back with a > winch mechanism to load/unload the spare. I didn't > have an opportunity to pull the front panels to > verify that the rad is mod for swing out but I did > see some hinges which looked like they dropped the > bumper. So I think it's got the swing out mod. Every > switch, button and control that I checked worked > fine. Slide out mechanism was smooth and the genny > started right up. Doghouse has the original sound > and heat proofing material. Front air and heat works > great. Even the misters on the wipers work. The > interior looks like it has had very little wear. > Tires are practically new and match all the way > around. > > I was stunned. I really couldn't believe how well > this baby had been loved over the years. She drove > like a dream. So I took a stab at the dealership by > asking more questions. When were the injectors last > replaced? (2002) Are they sure about the mileage? > (65K) etc. Well, to make a long story short, I > offered them half what they were asking. After > several more go 'rounds with the sales manager they > accepted the offer. > > Frankly I'm still in disbelief. Now that diesel is > back down to $2.39 I'm going to fill the tank and > get ready for next weekend. > > That having all been said, this particular coach > needs to go to a full timer. It's too sweet to sit > and only be occasionally used. I will most likely > look to trade it for a toy hauler or outright sale > to the right person. I don't see these coaches as > just commodities to be bought and sold. They are > fine machines and should be owned by individuals who > understand and appreciate them. > > So, keep looking. Your bird is out there. > > -Jack > 83 FC 35 > Houston > > -----Original Message----- > From: dj.long@... > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 11:51 PM > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: '80 35FC present > parket value help needed please > > And there are plenty of us lurkers out here look'n > for the right bird > > to pounce on. So don'tbe afraid to list. If it sells > for the price > > you need your happy, if it doesn't you tried and be > happy you kept > > her. If you want more kids I would trade one or two > of mine for a > > good bird. > > > > Doug Long > > Edmonton > > Wanabee > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Eric > Johnson" > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello Adria, > > > I'm no guru, but I haven't observed that the > market for preowned > > BB's has "gone through > > > the floor". The entire motorhome market, just > like the house > > market, is a bit soft now due > > > to higher interest rates and fuel prices, but > should come back in > > time as people and the > > > economy adjust to these new realities. The older > coaches, if well > > maintained, are a real > > > bargain as they don't depreciate at anywhere near > the rate of a new > > coach and FC's are > > > fairly fuel efficient as coaches go. > > > > > > If I were selling my coach today I would do the > following: > > > 1. Take a good set of interior/exterior photos > > > 2. Draft a complete and accurate description of > the coach > > > 3. Collect and organize all available maintenance > records > > > 4. Scan BirdConnection, FMCA magazine, WLForum > and Vintage Bird > > listings for > > > comparables. > > > 5. Do an advanced search on Ebay for any > completed comparable > > sales. > > > 6. Adjust my price up or down against the > comparable listings for > > known difficiencies or > > > advantages. > > > 7. Take a weekend trip somewhere in the coach > with the family and > > ask myself if I really > > > want to sell it. > > > 8. List the coach on all of the sites mentioned > in step 4. > > > 9. Patiently wait for the right buyer to come > along. > > > > > > Regards, Eric in San Antonio > > > 84FC35SBWL2 > > > > > === message truncated === '80 35FC present parket value help needed please - Gregory OConnor - 09-10-2006 07:34 Gail, The best way to inspect a coach is to listen to the seller. The more this guy says the less you can believe. Selling is a behavorial science. the last crowd played on your excitement in finding a good deal, and your greed to drop the bus from other buyers view. They obligating you to a 20K deal over the phone in exchange for dropping the bus from public bid. You baced the purchase on on word of mouth then in the office when things showed up short they got rid of the word of mouth (salesman went home). The dealer played you. This is a hearsay approach . you are overhearing a conversation to another and asking the guy to please sell you his bus. If you are ever in the market for a slightly used bobcat tractor give me a call Gregory O'Connor 94ptRomoland California Scots Demolition and Excavation - In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, GLOBE1969 wrote: > > Hello: > I am in Austin, Tx I would be interested if you want > to sell. > Gail Remy > > --- johngilmoremd@... wrote: > > > Hello Doug, > > > > I am/was one of those lurkers who was looking. > > Years ago I owned an 83 FC 35. We had a lot of fun > > and some incredible trips with her. But we sold due > > to schedule changes and a new baby on the way. Just > > didn't think we would be camping much for a while. > > > > So now that we have a spunky 2 year old daughter > > and 11 year old son we have caught the camping and > > weekend adventure bug again. This time around I was > > hunting for something smaller, a travel trailer > > actually, just to make it easier to store. > > > > Then like a lead pipe hitting me on the > > head...there was my coach listed on a local site for > > sale! Not the same one but the same model...an 83 FC > > 35 in almost perfect condition! I sent an email with > > 20 questions to the dealer who had accepted it as > > trade in. They couldn't even answer the questions, > > had no idea. > > > > Yesterday I took the gang and we had a look at it. > > The experience was so nostalgic that it's hard to > > describe. None of the "seasoned" salespersons wanted > > to assist. They knew nothing about it and in fact I > > believe they were intimidated by the cockpit and the > > intricate workings of the coach. So I got the newbie > > sales-kid and out into the rain we went. I taught > > him about the coach over the next 3 hours. > > > > This gorgeous machine has the 3208 turbo, Jake > > brake, new fridge, ducted air, nice sound > > system....the tv over the pilot's chair works and > > even has a good picture. Back up cam works great and > > every appliance functions properly. She has the > > original paint and it looks good....orange and > > brown. Apparently was stored indoors. The diamond > > plating on top is mint. It has a diamond plated > > spare tire holder on the top at the back with a > > winch mechanism to load/unload the spare. I didn't > > have an opportunity to pull the front panels to > > verify that the rad is mod for swing out but I did > > see some hinges which looked like they dropped the > > bumper. So I think it's got the swing out mod. Every > > switch, button and control that I checked worked > > fine. Slide out mechanism was smooth and the genny > > started right up. Doghouse has the original sound > > and heat proofing material. Front air and heat works > > great. Even the misters on the wipers work. The > > interior looks like it has had very little wear. > > Tires are practically new and match all the way > > around. > > > > I was stunned. I really couldn't believe how well > > this baby had been loved over the years. She drove > > like a dream. So I took a stab at the dealership by > > asking more questions. When were the injectors last > > replaced? (2002) Are they sure about the mileage? > > (65K) etc. Well, to make a long story short, I > > offered them half what they were asking. After > > several more go 'rounds with the sales manager they > > accepted the offer. > > > > Frankly I'm still in disbelief. Now that diesel is > > back down to $2.39 I'm going to fill the tank and > > get ready for next weekend. > > > > That having all been said, this particular coach > > needs to go to a full timer. It's too sweet to sit > > and only be occasionally used. I will most likely > > look to trade it for a toy hauler or outright sale > > to the right person. I don't see these coaches as > > just commodities to be bought and sold. They are > > fine machines and should be owned by individuals who > > understand and appreciate them. > > > > So, keep looking. Your bird is out there. > > > > -Jack > > 83 FC 35 > > Houston > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dj.long@... > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 11:51 PM > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: '80 35FC present > > parket value help needed please > > > > And there are plenty of us lurkers out here look'n > > for the right bird > > > > to pounce on. So don'tbe afraid to list. If it sells > > for the price > > > > you need your happy, if it doesn't you tried and be > > happy you kept > > > > her. If you want more kids I would trade one or two > > of mine for a > > > > good bird. > > > > > > > > Doug Long > > > > Edmonton > > > > Wanabee > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Eric > > Johnson" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello Adria, > > > > > I'm no guru, but I haven't observed that the > > market for preowned > > > > BB's has "gone through > > > > > the floor". The entire motorhome market, just > > like the house > > > > market, is a bit soft now due > > > > > to higher interest rates and fuel prices, but > > should come back in > > > > time as people and the > > > > > economy adjust to these new realities. The older > > coaches, if well > > > > maintained, are a real > > > > > bargain as they don't depreciate at anywhere near > > the rate of a new > > > > coach and FC's are > > > > > fairly fuel efficient as coaches go. > > > > > > > > > > If I were selling my coach today I would do the > > following: > > > > > 1. Take a good set of interior/exterior photos > > > > > 2. Draft a complete and accurate description of > > the coach > > > > > 3. Collect and organize all available maintenance > > records > > > > > 4. Scan BirdConnection, FMCA magazine, WLForum > > and Vintage Bird > > > > listings for > > > > > comparables. > > > > > 5. Do an advanced search on Ebay for any > > completed comparable > > > > sales. > > > > > 6. Adjust my price up or down against the > > comparable listings for > > > > known difficiencies or > > > > > advantages. > > > > > 7. Take a weekend trip somewhere in the coach > > with the family and > > > > ask myself if I really > > > > > want to sell it. > > > > > 8. List the coach on all of the sites mentioned > > in step 4. > > > > > 9. Patiently wait for the right buyer to come > > along. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, Eric in San Antonio > > > > > 84FC35SBWL2 > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > '80 35FC present parket value help needed please - GLOBE1969 - 09-10-2006 09:20 I always wanted a tractor. I will be there next tuesday to buy it. Gail Remy --- Gregory OConnor > Gail, The best way to inspect a coach is to listen > to the seller. The > more this guy says the less you can believe. > Selling is a behavorial > science. the last crowd played on your excitement in > finding a good > deal, and your greed to drop the bus from other > buyers view. They > obligating you to a 20K deal over the phone in > exchange for dropping > the bus from public bid. You baced the purchase on > on word of mouth > then in the office when things showed up short they > got rid of the > word of mouth (salesman went home). The dealer > played you. > > This is a hearsay approach . you are overhearing a > conversation to > another and asking the guy to please sell you his > bus. If you are > ever in the market for a slightly used bobcat > tractor give me a call > > Gregory O'Connor > 94ptRomoland California > Scots Demolition and Excavation > - In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, GLOBE1969 > > wrote: > > > > Hello: > > I am in Austin, Tx I would be interested if you > want > > to sell. > > Gail Remy > > > > --- johngilmoremd@... wrote: > > > > > Hello Doug, > > > > > > I am/was one of those lurkers who was looking. > > > Years ago I owned an 83 FC 35. We had a lot of > fun > > > and some incredible trips with her. But we sold > due > > > to schedule changes and a new baby on the way. > Just > > > didn't think we would be camping much for a > while. > > > > > > So now that we have a spunky 2 year old > daughter > > > and 11 year old son we have caught the camping > and > > > weekend adventure bug again. This time around I > was > > > hunting for something smaller, a travel trailer > > > actually, just to make it easier to store. > > > > > > Then like a lead pipe hitting me on the > > > head...there was my coach listed on a local site > for > > > sale! Not the same one but the same model...an > 83 FC > > > 35 in almost perfect condition! I sent an email > with > > > 20 questions to the dealer who had accepted it > as > > > trade in. They couldn't even answer the > questions, > > > had no idea. > > > > > > Yesterday I took the gang and we had a look at > it. > > > The experience was so nostalgic that it's hard > to > > > describe. None of the "seasoned" salespersons > wanted > > > to assist. They knew nothing about it and in > fact I > > > believe they were intimidated by the cockpit and > the > > > intricate workings of the coach. So I got the > newbie > > > sales-kid and out into the rain we went. I > taught > > > him about the coach over the next 3 hours. > > > > > > This gorgeous machine has the 3208 turbo, Jake > > > brake, new fridge, ducted air, nice sound > > > system....the tv over the pilot's chair works > and > > > even has a good picture. Back up cam works great > and > > > every appliance functions properly. She has the > > > original paint and it looks good....orange and > > > brown. Apparently was stored indoors. The > diamond > > > plating on top is mint. It has a diamond plated > > > spare tire holder on the top at the back with a > > > winch mechanism to load/unload the spare. I > didn't > > > have an opportunity to pull the front panels to > > > verify that the rad is mod for swing out but I > did > > > see some hinges which looked like they dropped > the > > > bumper. So I think it's got the swing out mod. > Every > > > switch, button and control that I checked worked > > > fine. Slide out mechanism was smooth and the > genny > > > started right up. Doghouse has the original > sound > > > and heat proofing material. Front air and heat > works > > > great. Even the misters on the wipers work. The > > > interior looks like it has had very little wear. > > > Tires are practically new and match all the way > > > around. > > > > > > I was stunned. I really couldn't believe how > well > > > this baby had been loved over the years. She > drove > > > like a dream. So I took a stab at the dealership > by > > > asking more questions. When were the injectors > last > > > replaced? (2002) Are they sure about the > mileage? > > > (65K) etc. Well, to make a long story short, I > > > offered them half what they were asking. After > > > several more go 'rounds with the sales manager > they > > > accepted the offer. > > > > > > Frankly I'm still in disbelief. Now that diesel > is > > > back down to $2.39 I'm going to fill the tank > and > > > get ready for next weekend. > > > > > > That having all been said, this particular > coach > > > needs to go to a full timer. It's too sweet to > sit > > > and only be occasionally used. I will most > likely > > > look to trade it for a toy hauler or outright > sale > > > to the right person. I don't see these coaches > as > > > just commodities to be bought and sold. They are > > > fine machines and should be owned by individuals > who > > > understand and appreciate them. > > > > > > So, keep looking. Your bird is out there. > > > > > > -Jack > > > 83 FC 35 > > > Houston > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dj.long@... > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 11:51 PM > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: '80 35FC > present > > > parket value help needed please > > > > > > And there are plenty of us lurkers out here > look'n > > > for the right bird > > > > > > to pounce on. So don'tbe afraid to list. If it > sells > > > for the price > > > > > > you need your happy, if it doesn't you tried and > be > > > happy you kept > > > > > > her. If you want more kids I would trade one or > two > > > of mine for a > > > > > > good bird. > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Long > > > > > > Edmonton > > > > > > Wanabee > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Eric > > > Johnson" > === message truncated === |