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Progressive Industries EMS HW50C - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 02-21-2007 05:43 Hi all: In an earlier post, Ernie had mentioned his problems with his electrical system. To us who read both forums, Wanderlodge and Wanderlodgeforum, have had a good discussion regarding surge protection etc. I had posted that I do not believe in Ernies case it was a surge, but incorrectly wired, or poorly wired receptacle or plug. Research by a number of forum members was conducted and was determined that a device from Progressive Industries called the EMS HW50C would be the correct thing to purchase. This device is not just a Surge Protector, but an electrical management system. It checks voltage, frequency and L-N, L-L, L-G etc, giving one a lot more protection. Below you will find a link to Tweetys who will give the best price on this unit at $270.00 http://www.tweetys.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=6768 This special deal to Wanderlodge owners is only open till Friday 23rd of February. If you want to read the post join Wanderlodge forum and search under messages Surge protector Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge" Terrace, B.C. Canada __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Progressive Industries EMS HW50C - Richard Hayden - 02-21-2007 06:19 I agree Bill. Ernie's problem was most likely plug related. I have for years, first on boats and now on the coach, check the plug yearly. Completely dissemble the plug and check for damage ,i.e. over heating evidence, and tighten the screws. I have noticed even without over heating damage the screws will loosen over time. I believe it is called "cold flow". The copper wires actually move a little due to the pressure of the screw clamp. I've also noticed this in the main breaker panel, though not as dramatic as the plug. Probably due to the stranded conductors as opposed to the solid conductors in the main panel. If your plug is warm, or even hot, to the touch it is time to check it out. Especially these 30 amp cords that have a 50 amp plug at the coach. The park connection should protect with a 30 amp breaker but I have noticed that you can't depend on that for what ever reason. I once witnessed a power pedestal on fire across from my boat. It had just caught fire. The reason was, you guessed it, the boathouse's plug was defective - very loose screws. FWIW Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: Wilhelmus Schreurs To: wanderlodgeforum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 9:43 AM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Progressive Industries EMS HW50C Hi all: In an earlier post, Ernie had mentioned his problems with his electrical system. To us who read both forums, Wanderlodge and Wanderlodgeforum, have had a good discussion regarding surge protection etc. I had posted that I do not believe in Ernies case it was a surge, but incorrectly wired, or poorly wired receptacle or plug. Research by a number of forum members was conducted and was determined that a device from Progressive Industries called the EMS HW50C would be the correct thing to purchase. This device is not just a Surge Protector, but an electrical management system. It checks voltage, frequency and L-N, L-L, L-G etc, giving one a lot more protection. Below you will find a link to Tweetys who will give the best price on this unit at $270.00 http://www.tweetys.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=6768<http://www.twee\ tys.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=6768> This special deal to Wanderlodge owners is only open till Friday 23rd of February. If you want to read the post join Wanderlodge forum and search under messages Surge protector Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge" Terrace, B.C. Canada __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com<http://mail.yahoo.com/> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Progressive Industries EMS HW50C - Leroy Eckert - 02-21-2007 09:19 FWIW, For some time , I have been using an earlier model EMS PT-50B, portable, I think that is the model, and have had very good success with it. It has located pedestal problems on a couple of occasions. BTW, the potental and real benefits are fabulous at any price, especially $270.00. I would not plug in without it. One problem without it is to late. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" Niceville, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: Wilhelmus Schreurs To: wanderlodgeforum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 11:43 AM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Progressive Industries EMS HW50C Hi all: In an earlier post, Ernie had mentioned his problems with his electrical system. To us who read both forums, Wanderlodge and Wanderlodgeforum, have had a good discussion regarding surge protection etc. I had posted that I do not believe in Ernies case it was a surge, but incorrectly wired, or poorly wired receptacle or plug. Research by a number of forum members was conducted and was determined that a device from Progressive Industries called the EMS HW50C would be the correct thing to purchase. This device is not just a Surge Protector, but an electrical management system. It checks voltage, frequency and L-N, L-L, L-G etc, giving one a lot more protection. Below you will find a link to Tweetys who will give the best price on this unit at $270.00 http://www.tweetys.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=6768 This special deal to Wanderlodge owners is only open till Friday 23rd of February. If you want to read the post join Wanderlodge forum and search under messages Surge protector Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge" Terrace, B.C. Canada __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Progressive Industries EMS HW50C - ernieekberg@...> - 02-21-2007 10:49 My plug was the original molded plug from the factory. Couldn't take it apart- doesn't matter, now- going to get new stuff soon. Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Livingston,Montana ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Hayden To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Progressive Industries EMS HW50C I agree Bill. Ernie's problem was most likely plug related. I have for years, first on boats and now on the coach, check the plug yearly. Completely dissemble the plug and check for damage ,i.e. over heating evidence, and tighten the screws. I have noticed even without over heating damage the screws will loosen over time. I believe it is called "cold flow". The copper wires actually move a little due to the pressure of the screw clamp. I've also noticed this in the main breaker panel, though not as dramatic as the plug. Probably due to the stranded conductors as opposed to the solid conductors in the main panel. If your plug is warm, or even hot, to the touch it is time to check it out. Especially these 30 amp cords that have a 50 amp plug at the coach. The park connection should protect with a 30 amp breaker but I have noticed that you can't depend on that for what ever reason. I once witnessed a power pedestal on fire across from my boat. It had just caught fire. The reason was, you guessed it, the boathouse's plug was defective - very loose screws. FWIW Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: Wilhelmus Schreurs To: wanderlodgeforum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 9:43 AM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Progressive Industries EMS HW50C Hi all: In an earlier post, Ernie had mentioned his problems with his electrical system. To us who read both forums, Wanderlodge and Wanderlodgeforum, have had a good discussion regarding surge protection etc. I had posted that I do not believe in Ernies case it was a surge, but incorrectly wired, or poorly wired receptacle or plug. Research by a number of forum members was conducted and was determined that a device from Progressive Industries called the EMS HW50C would be the correct thing to purchase. This device is not just a Surge Protector, but an electrical management system. It checks voltage, frequency and L-N, L-L, L-G etc, giving one a lot more protection. Below you will find a link to Tweetys who will give the best price on this unit at $270.00 http://www.tweetys.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=6768<http://www.twee\ tys.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=6768> This special deal to Wanderlodge owners is only open till Friday 23rd of February. If you want to read the post join Wanderlodge forum and search under messages Surge protector Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge" Terrace, B.C. Canada __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com<http://mail.yahoo.com/> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Progressive Industries EMS HW50C - Gardner Yeaw - 02-21-2007 11:38 Dick, You are correct about cold flow. I used to work with three phase mainframe water cooled computers, and whenever the electricians wired up an new plug, they would wait 15 or 20 minutes and go back and tighten it again. One year there was water running into the computer room under the raised floor. We went around and lifted the connectors up and put them on wood blocks. I grabbed the cable from one of the machines and all 4 wires pulled right out of the connector. (208 three phase power). Lucky I was at the machine end. So now once a year, or if I am doing anything electrical in my house, I tighten the ground and hot connections on my breaker panel. I just run down where the common and ground wires are connected then do each breaker connection. They always tighten just a little. (I don't use excessive force, just s firm twist).I had an electrician do the mains comming in cause you can't shut them off and I don't have the proper tools or rubber gloves. Gardner 78FC33 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hayden" > > I agree Bill. Ernie's problem was most likely plug related. I have for years, first on boats and now on the coach, check the plug yearly. Completely dissemble the plug and check for damage ,i.e. over heating evidence, and tighten the screws. I have noticed even without over heating damage the screws will loosen over time. I believe it is called "cold flow". The copper wires actually move a little due to the pressure of the screw clamp. I've also noticed this in the main breaker panel, though not as dramatic as the plug. Probably due to the stranded conductors as opposed to the solid conductors in the main panel. > > If your plug is warm, or even hot, to the touch it is time to check it out. Especially these 30 amp cords that have a 50 amp plug at the coach. The park connection should protect with a 30 amp breaker but I have noticed that you can't depend on that for what ever reason. I once witnessed a power pedestal on fire across from my boat. It had just caught fire. The reason was, you guessed it, the boathouse's plug was defective - very loose screws. > > FWIW > > Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Wilhelmus Schreurs > To: wanderlodgeforum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 9:43 AM > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Progressive Industries EMS HW50C > > > Hi all: > In an earlier post, Ernie had mentioned his problems with his electrical system. > To us who read both forums, Wanderlodge and Wanderlodgeforum, have had a good discussion regarding surge protection etc. > I had posted that I do not believe in Ernies case it was a surge, but incorrectly wired, or poorly wired receptacle or plug. > Research by a number of forum members was conducted and was determined that a device from Progressive Industries called the EMS HW50C would be the correct thing to purchase. > This device is not just a Surge Protector, but an electrical management system. > It checks voltage, frequency and L-N, L-L, L-G etc, giving one a lot more protection. > Below you will find a link to Tweetys who will give the best price on this unit at $270.00 > http://www.tweetys.com/index.asp? PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=6768<http://www.tweetys.com/index.asp? PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=6768> > > This special deal to Wanderlodge owners is only open till Friday 23rd of February. > > If you want to read the post join Wanderlodge forum and search under messages Surge protector > > Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge" > Terrace, B.C. Canada > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com<http://mail.yahoo.com/> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Progressive Industries EMS HW50C - Richard Hayden - 02-22-2007 03:26 Right Ernie. I was probably thinking of the boat male end. It would not be possible to check the molded male end as I described. However, I believe that it is crimped on not screwed inside. Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: ernieekberg@... To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Progressive Industries EMS HW50C My plug was the original molded plug from the factory. Couldn't take it apart- doesn't matter, now- going to get new stuff soon. Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Livingston,Montana ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Hayden To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Progressive Industries EMS HW50C I agree Bill. Ernie's problem was most likely plug related. I have for years, first on boats and now on the coach, check the plug yearly. Completely dissemble the plug and check for damage ,i.e. over heating evidence, and tighten the screws. I have noticed even without over heating damage the screws will loosen over time. I believe it is called "cold flow". The copper wires actually move a little due to the pressure of the screw clamp. I've also noticed this in the main breaker panel, though not as dramatic as the plug. Probably due to the stranded conductors as opposed to the solid conductors in the main panel. If your plug is warm, or even hot, to the touch it is time to check it out. Especially these 30 amp cords that have a 50 amp plug at the coach. The park connection should protect with a 30 amp breaker but I have noticed that you can't depend on that for what ever reason. I once witnessed a power pedestal on fire across from my boat. It had just caught fire. The reason was, you guessed it, the boathouse's plug was defective - very loose screws. FWIW Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: Wilhelmus Schreurs To: wanderlodgeforum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 9:43 AM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Progressive Industries EMS HW50C Hi all: In an earlier post, Ernie had mentioned his problems with his electrical system. To us who read both forums, Wanderlodge and Wanderlodgeforum, have had a good discussion regarding surge protection etc. I had posted that I do not believe in Ernies case it was a surge, but incorrectly wired, or poorly wired receptacle or plug. Research by a number of forum members was conducted and was determined that a device from Progressive Industries called the EMS HW50C would be the correct thing to purchase. This device is not just a Surge Protector, but an electrical management system. It checks voltage, frequency and L-N, L-L, L-G etc, giving one a lot more protection. Below you will find a link to Tweetys who will give the best price on this unit at $270.00 http://www.tweetys.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=6768<http://www.twee\ tys.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=6768><http://www.tweetys.com/index.\ asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=6768<http://www.tweetys.com/index.asp?PageAction=\ VIEWPROD&ProdID=6768>> This special deal to Wanderlodge owners is only open till Friday 23rd of February. If you want to read the post join Wanderlodge forum and search under messages Surge protector Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge" Terrace, B.C. Canada __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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