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Water pump problem - Keith Strehle - 03-07-2007 09:58
The water pump in my coach stops suddenly and starts again within a
minute or less. Any ideas what may be causing it?
Thanks Keith
Water pump problem - ernieekberg@...> - 03-07-2007 10:12
Keith- you have a small water leak. I can't remember what coach you have, so if
you could sign your posts with that info, it will make it easier to narrow a
problem down. Thanks
Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston,Montana
"POO-DOO-EXPRESS"
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Strehle
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 2:58 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water pump problem
The water pump in my coach stops suddenly and starts again within a
minute or less. Any ideas what may be causing it?
Thanks Keith
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Water pump problem - Chuck Wheeler - 03-07-2007 10:20
Keith,
If you are talking about this happening when you have a faucet open and
water running then it is tripping the circuit breaker for some reason. The
breakers do an auto reset. If it is when the pump is on but all faucets are
off then there is a leak. This is usually in the fill valve or the water
heater drain valve. Either one will let water from the pressure side flow
back to the fresh water tank.
- Chuck Wheeler -
82 FC 31 SB
Fort Worth, TX
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Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 3:58 PM
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Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water pump problem
The water pump in my coach stops suddenly and starts again within a
minute or less. Any ideas what may be causing it?
Thanks Keith
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Water pump problem - Keith Strehle - 03-07-2007 10:22
Sorry about that Ernie, I had the coach info set up to do it in
auto? Anyway, 84FCSB. It just stops, waits, and starts again?
Keith
84FCSB
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
>
> Keith- you have a small water leak. I can't remember what coach you
have, so if you could sign your posts with that info, it will make it
easier to narrow a problem down. Thanks
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Livingston,Montana
> "POO-DOO-EXPRESS"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Keith Strehle
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 2:58 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water pump problem
>
>
> The water pump in my coach stops suddenly and starts again within
a
> minute or less. Any ideas what may be causing it?
>
> Thanks Keith
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Water pump problem - Keith Strehle - 03-07-2007 10:26
It is when the faucet is open. It stops, then restarts. 12 volt
circuit breakers? Where would that be located? And what does it
look like?
Keith
84FCSB
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Wheeler"
>
> Keith,
>
> If you are talking about this happening when you have a faucet open
and
> water running then it is tripping the circuit breaker for some
reason. The
> breakers do an auto reset. If it is when the pump is on but all
faucets are
> off then there is a leak. This is usually in the fill valve or the
water
> heater drain valve. Either one will let water from the pressure
side flow
> back to the fresh water tank.
>
>
>
> - Chuck Wheeler -
>
> 82 FC 31 SB
>
> Fort Worth, TX
>
> _____
>
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Strehle
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 3:58 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water pump problem
>
>
>
> The water pump in my coach stops suddenly and starts again within a
> minute or less. Any ideas what may be causing it?
>
> Thanks Keith
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Water pump problem - Pete Masterson - 03-07-2007 10:46
The expansion tank may have lost its 'charge' of air. There's a tire-
valve nipple on the top that you can use to 'pump up' the pressure.
Or the expansion tank may have had the diaphragm fail -- replacing
the tank is the only solution then. Or, you might want to try the
variable speed pump option -- replace your pump(s) and expansion tank
with the Shurflow variable speed pump. Caution - this option will
raise your coach water pressure to 65lbs when you're on the pump. Be
sure your plumbing can handle it.
There may be other reasons for the pump to act up as well.. possible
overheating?
Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA
On Mar 7, 2007, at 1:58 PM, Keith Strehle wrote:
> The water pump in my coach stops suddenly and starts again within a
> minute or less. Any ideas what may be causing it?
>
> Thanks Keith
>
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Water pump problem - Keith Strehle - 03-07-2007 10:55
Thanks Pete, I was wondering what the tank was for. That makes
perfect sense. How much pressure should I put in it? I also thought
of overheating but the coach is very lightly used? Doesn't seem like
the pump is worn out?
Thanks, Keith
84FCSB
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> The expansion tank may have lost its 'charge' of air. There's a
tire-
> valve nipple on the top that you can use to 'pump up' the
pressure.
> Or the expansion tank may have had the diaphragm fail -- replacing
> the tank is the only solution then. Or, you might want to try the
> variable speed pump option -- replace your pump(s) and expansion
tank
> with the Shurflow variable speed pump. Caution - this option will
> raise your coach water pressure to 65lbs when you're on the pump.
Be
> sure your plumbing can handle it.
>
> There may be other reasons for the pump to act up as well..
possible
> overheating?
>
> Pete Masterson
> aeonix1@...
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
> El Sobrante, CA
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 7, 2007, at 1:58 PM, Keith Strehle wrote:
>
> > The water pump in my coach stops suddenly and starts again within
a
> > minute or less. Any ideas what may be causing it?
> >
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Water pump problem - ernieekberg@...> - 03-07-2007 11:04
Keith- i wonder if your accumulator tank is working as it was designed. My pump
runs all the time- accumulator tank- shot.
Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston,Montana
"POO-DOO-EXPRESS"
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Strehle
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 3:26 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Water pump problem
It is when the faucet is open. It stops, then restarts. 12 volt
circuit breakers? Where would that be located? And what does it
look like?
Keith
84FCSB
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Wheeler"
>
> Keith,
>
> If you are talking about this happening when you have a faucet open
and
> water running then it is tripping the circuit breaker for some
reason. The
> breakers do an auto reset. If it is when the pump is on but all
faucets are
> off then there is a leak. This is usually in the fill valve or the
water
> heater drain valve. Either one will let water from the pressure
side flow
> back to the fresh water tank.
>
>
>
> - Chuck Wheeler -
>
> 82 FC 31 SB
>
> Fort Worth, TX
>
> _____
>
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Strehle
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 3:58 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water pump problem
>
>
>
> The water pump in my coach stops suddenly and starts again within a
> minute or less. Any ideas what may be causing it?
>
> Thanks Keith
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Water pump problem - Keith Strehle - 03-07-2007 11:43
Ernie, is that the same as the expansion tank Pete mentioned. I do
remember fooling around with the schrader valve when I first got the
bus. I don't remember if I had the problem before that or not? I'm
going to pump some air ito it and see what happens.
Keith
San Diego
84FC
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
>
> Keith- i wonder if your accumulator tank is working as it was
designed. My pump runs all the time- accumulator tank- shot.
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Livingston,Montana
> "POO-DOO-EXPRESS"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Keith Strehle
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 3:26 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Water pump problem
>
>
> It is when the faucet is open. It stops, then restarts. 12 volt
> circuit breakers? Where would that be located? And what does it
> look like?
>
> Keith
> 84FCSB
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Wheeler"
>
> >
> > Keith,
> >
> > If you are talking about this happening when you have a faucet
open
> and
> > water running then it is tripping the circuit breaker for some
> reason. The
> > breakers do an auto reset. If it is when the pump is on but all
> faucets are
> > off then there is a leak. This is usually in the fill valve or
the
> water
> > heater drain valve. Either one will let water from the pressure
> side flow
> > back to the fresh water tank.
> >
> >
> >
> > - Chuck Wheeler -
> >
> > 82 FC 31 SB
> >
> > Fort Worth, TX
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Strehle
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 3:58 PM
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water pump problem
> >
> >
> >
> > The water pump in my coach stops suddenly and starts again
within a
> > minute or less. Any ideas what may be causing it?
> >
> > Thanks Keith
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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Water pump problem - Pete Masterson - 03-07-2007 11:46
The pump is pretty durable, but it may be partially clogged and/or
need a rebuild causing it to overheat. That might cause a circuit
breaker to trip then reset. (Don't know where they are on your year.)
I'd guess that the expansion tank would need about 40# as that's what
the operating pressure is ... but it may be lower. The pressure in
the tank allows the pump to run at a constant speed until the
pressure in the system is "right". Then the tank provides the
pressure until it drops to the point where the pump kicks on again.
If the water pressure at a faucet isn't significantly changing as the
pump cycles on-off-on, then the problem may not be the expansion tank
at all.
If the pump needs a rebuild, kits are available for a modest cost
$20~30 or so. Most often, the pump will 'seep' at the joint in the
case between the motor and the pump section if it needs a rebuild --
but perhaps not.
If you find the circuit breakers, swap the one for the pump circuit
for another one with a similar rating. It could be a faulty breaker
instead of the pump, but that's not as likely. Even if it is the
breaker tripping, you'll need to determine why the breaker trips.
Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA
On Mar 7, 2007, at 2:55 PM, Keith Strehle wrote:
> Thanks Pete, I was wondering what the tank was for. That makes
> perfect sense. How much pressure should I put in it? I also thought
> of overheating but the coach is very lightly used? Doesn't seem like
> the pump is worn out?
>
> Thanks, Keith
> 84FCSB
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
> wrote:
>>
>> The expansion tank may have lost its 'charge' of air. There's a
> tire-
>> valve nipple on the top that you can use to 'pump up' the
> pressure.
>> Or the expansion tank may have had the diaphragm fail -- replacing
>> the tank is the only solution then. Or, you might want to try the
>> variable speed pump option -- replace your pump(s) and expansion
> tank
>> with the Shurflow variable speed pump. Caution - this option will
>> raise your coach water pressure to 65lbs when you're on the pump.
> Be
>> sure your plumbing can handle it.
>>
>> There may be other reasons for the pump to act up as well..
> possible
>> overheating?
>>
>> Pete Masterson
>> aeonix1@...
>> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
>> El Sobrante, CA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2007, at 1:58 PM, Keith Strehle wrote:
>>
>>> The water pump in my coach stops suddenly and starts again within
> a
>>> minute or less. Any ideas what may be causing it?
>>>
>>> Thanks Keith
>>>
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