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Constant Door Chime - krminyl@... - 04-03-2007 04:41

Are you sure it's a momentary, SPST push button switch? What happens when
you disconnect both wires from the switch? Does the chime stop? Touch the
wires together, does the chime turn on again? If so, your switch is the wrong
type. Use a multimeter on the switch contacts, and see what the switch does.
The switch could be grounded also, with one of the poles being momentary
"on" and the other always "on" always and off when pushed.

Kevin Mc
Yorba Linda, CA
86 38 PT



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Constant Door Chime - Keith Strehle - 04-03-2007 08:31

I tried to replace the door chime button on my 84FC35. But when I put
the wires on the button it starts ringing and won't stop? I tried two
different brand new push buttons.

Any suggestions?

Keith
84FC

Constant Door Chime - Keith Strehle - 04-03-2007 09:02

Yes it stops when disconnected from the switch. I don't know what an
SPST switch is but yes it only rings once when the wires are touched
together. I figured I bought a bad switch but same thing happened
with the second new switch. I bought the switches at Home Depot.

So you think if I reverse the wires it might work?

Unfortunately I popped the fuse while I was fooling around with it.
Now I gotta go look for the fuse...

Keith
84FC35


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, krminyl@... wrote:
>
> Are you sure it's a momentary, SPST push button switch? What
happens when
> you disconnect both wires from the switch? Does the chime stop?
Touch the
> wires together, does the chime turn on again? If so, your switch
is the wrong
> type. Use a multimeter on the switch contacts, and see what the
switch does.
> The switch could be grounded also, with one of the poles being
momentary
> "on" and the other always "on" always and off when pushed.
>
> Kevin Mc
> Yorba Linda, CA
> 86 38 PT
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at
http://www.aol.com.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Constant Door Chime - Keith Strehle - 04-03-2007 09:34

Okay, I got it. SPST = Single Pole Single Throw. A SPST momentary
switch returns to its normally open (off) position when you release
the button. A standard doorbell switch. It doesn't solve the problem
(yet) but I know what it is now...

Thanks, Keith
84FC35




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, krminyl@... wrote:
>
> Are you sure it's a momentary, SPST push button switch? What
happens when
> you disconnect both wires from the switch? Does the chime stop?
Touch the
> wires together, does the chime turn on again? If so, your switch
is the wrong
> type. Use a multimeter on the switch contacts, and see what the
switch does.
> The switch could be grounded also, with one of the poles being
momentary
> "on" and the other always "on" always and off when pushed.
>
> Kevin Mc
> Yorba Linda, CA
> 86 38 PT
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at
http://www.aol.com.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Constant Door Chime - Gregory OConnor - 04-03-2007 10:06

Keith, Kevin is thinking you are using the wrong switch. You need a
momentary switch like the old starter buttons; the moment you push-
it makes contact, the moment you release- it loses contact. If the
doorbell button you are using now clicks when pushed, it may unclick
when pushed the second time. That would be a POPO switch


I am looking for a door bell chime that rings like the NewMoon
trailer in the LongLong Trailer movie.
GregoryO'Connor
94PTRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Strehle"
wrote:
>
> Okay, I got it. SPST = Single Pole Single Throw. A SPST momentary
> switch returns to its normally open (off) position when you release
> the button. A standard doorbell switch. It doesn't solve the
problem
> (yet) but I know what it is now...
>
> Thanks, Keith
> 84FC35
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, krminyl@ wrote:
> >
> > Are you sure it's a momentary, SPST push button switch? What
> happens when
> > you disconnect both wires from the switch? Does the chime
stop?
> Touch the
> > wires together, does the chime turn on again? If so, your
switch
> is the wrong
> > type. Use a multimeter on the switch contacts, and see what the
> switch does.
> > The switch could be grounded also, with one of the poles being
> momentary
> > "on" and the other always "on" always and off when pushed.
> >
> > Kevin Mc
> > Yorba Linda, CA
> > 86 38 PT
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************** See what's free at
> http://www.aol.com.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Constant Door Chime - Keith Strehle - 04-03-2007 10:21

It's a standard door bell switch from Home Depot. It releases when
you stop pushing. But even if you pushed it down and held it there
the bell should stop ringing until you push it again. Otherwise
every kid in the hood would be taping your dooebell button down!
It's a basic doorbell switch just like the one in my house. There
must be something else to this story. ?????????

Keith
84FC35


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> Keith, Kevin is thinking you are using the wrong switch. You need a
> momentary switch like the old starter buttons; the moment you push-
> it makes contact, the moment you release- it loses contact. If the
> doorbell button you are using now clicks when pushed, it may
unclick
> when pushed the second time. That would be a POPO switch
>
>
> I am looking for a door bell chime that rings like the NewMoon
> trailer in the LongLong Trailer movie.
> GregoryO'Connor
> 94PTRomolandCa
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Strehle"
> wrote:
> >
> > Okay, I got it. SPST = Single Pole Single Throw. A SPST
momentary
> > switch returns to its normally open (off) position when you
release
> > the button. A standard doorbell switch. It doesn't solve the
> problem
> > (yet) but I know what it is now...
> >
> > Thanks, Keith
> > 84FC35
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, krminyl@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Are you sure it's a momentary, SPST push button switch? What
> > happens when
> > > you disconnect both wires from the switch? Does the chime
> stop?
> > Touch the
> > > wires together, does the chime turn on again? If so, your
> switch
> > is the wrong
> > > type. Use a multimeter on the switch contacts, and see what
the
> > switch does.
> > > The switch could be grounded also, with one of the poles
being
> > momentary
> > > "on" and the other always "on" always and off when pushed.
> > >
> > > Kevin Mc
> > > Yorba Linda, CA
> > > 86 38 PT
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ************************************** See what's free at
> > http://www.aol.com.
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

Constant Door Chime - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 04-03-2007 11:42

Keith:
According to my schematic, it is #2 fuse in the Left Rear Panel.

Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
Terrace, B.C. Canada


----- Original Message ----
From: Keith Strehle
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2007 2:02:28 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Constant Door Chime













Yes it stops when disconnected from the switch. I don't know what
an

SPST switch is but yes it only rings once when the wires are touched

together. I figured I bought a bad switch but same thing happened

with the second new switch. I bought the switches at Home Depot.



So you think if I reverse the wires it might work?



Unfortunately I popped the fuse while I was fooling around with it.

Now I gotta go look for the fuse...



Keith

84FC35



--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, krminyl@... wrote:

>

> Are you sure it's a momentary, SPST push button switch? What

happens when

> you disconnect both wires from the switch? Does the chime stop?

Touch the

> wires together, does the chime turn on again? If so, your switch

is the wrong

> type. Use a multimeter on the switch contacts, and see what the

switch does.

> The switch could be grounded also, with one of the poles being

momentary

> "on" and the other always "on" always and off when pushed.

>

> Kevin Mc

> Yorba Linda, CA

> 86 38 PT

>

>

>

> ************ ********* ********* ******** See what's free at

http://www.aol. com.

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>














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Constant Door Chime - Ralph L. Fullenwider - 04-03-2007 11:47

Keith:

Are the push button switches your getting lighted? I had a similar problem
once due to the filiment in a lighted door bell switch.

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
84FC35
Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma

At 09:02 PM 4/3/2007 +0000, you wrote:
>Yes it stops when disconnected from the switch. I don't know what an
>SPST switch is but yes it only rings once when the wires are touched
>together. I figured I bought a bad switch but same thing happened
>with the second new switch. I bought the switches at Home Depot.
>
>So you think if I reverse the wires it might work?
>
>Unfortunately I popped the fuse while I was fooling around with it.
>Now I gotta go look for the fuse...
>
>Keith
>84FC35
>
>
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, krminyl@... wrote:
> >
> > Are you sure it's a momentary, SPST push button switch? What
>happens when
> > you disconnect both wires from the switch? Does the chime stop?
>Touch the
> > wires together, does the chime turn on again? If so, your switch
>is the wrong
> > type. Use a multimeter on the switch contacts, and see what the
>switch does.
> > The switch could be grounded also, with one of the poles being
>momentary
> > "on" and the other always "on" always and off when pushed.
> >
> > Kevin Mc
> > Yorba Linda, CA
> > 86 38 PT
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************** See what's free at
>http://www.aol.com.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
84FC35
Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma

Constant Door Chime - sfedeli3 - 04-03-2007 20:50

Hi Keith,

That same thing happened to me- I believe that it has something to
do with the original door chime button being an "insulated" switch.
Most of the newer residential ones are mounted to wood brick molding
or a non-grounded aluminum screen door frame. In a residential
application, this doesn't matter because the door frame is not
grounded, so if the metal housing for a residential switch contacts
the spring mechanism in the doorbell- nothing happens. On our coaches,
however, this creates problems because the skin of the coach serves as
a ground and as soon as you attach to new doorbell, the switch grounds
itself. Bluebird appears to have used an insulated switch mechanism
where the spring does not contact the metal switch housing. I'd like
to replace mine too, but it's not very high on the priorities list so
I did not pursue it. Please let us know if you find a suitable
replacement.

Shane Fedeli
85PT40
Hershey, PA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Strehle"
wrote:
>
> It's a standard door bell switch from Home Depot. It releases when
> you stop pushing. But even if you pushed it down and held it there
> the bell should stop ringing until you push it again. Otherwise
> every kid in the hood would be taping your dooebell button down!
> It's a basic doorbell switch just like the one in my house. There
> must be something else to this story. ?????????
>
> Keith
> 84FC35
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> wrote:
> >
> > Keith, Kevin is thinking you are using the wrong switch. You need a
> > momentary switch like the old starter buttons; the moment you push-
> > it makes contact, the moment you release- it loses contact. If the
> > doorbell button you are using now clicks when pushed, it may
> unclick
> > when pushed the second time. That would be a POPO switch
> >
> >
> > I am looking for a door bell chime that rings like the NewMoon
> > trailer in the LongLong Trailer movie.
> > GregoryO'Connor
> > 94PTRomolandCa
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Strehle"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay, I got it. SPST = Single Pole Single Throw. A SPST
> momentary
> > > switch returns to its normally open (off) position when you
> release
> > > the button. A standard doorbell switch. It doesn't solve the
> > problem
> > > (yet) but I know what it is now...
> > >
> > > Thanks, Keith
> > > 84FC35
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, krminyl@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Are you sure it's a momentary, SPST push button switch? What
> > > happens when
> > > > you disconnect both wires from the switch? Does the chime
> > stop?
> > > Touch the
> > > > wires together, does the chime turn on again? If so, your
> > switch
> > > is the wrong
> > > > type. Use a multimeter on the switch contacts, and see what
> the
> > > switch does.
> > > > The switch could be grounded also, with one of the poles
> being
> > > momentary
> > > > "on" and the other always "on" always and off when pushed.
> > > >
> > > > Kevin Mc
> > > > Yorba Linda, CA
> > > > 86 38 PT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ************************************** See what's free at
> > > http://www.aol.com.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Constant Door Chime - Keith Strehle - 04-04-2007 03:09

Thanks Kevin, I tried the multimeter idea. On the resistance mode
the doorbell only showed resistance when tne button was pushed.

And like some others said it may have something to do with being a
lighted switch?

I'm gonna call Bluebird today and see what the have to say.

Normally I wouldn't care but right now I have the two wires hanging
outside the hole. It looks bad...

Keith
84FC35

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, krminyl@... wrote:
>
> Are you sure it's a momentary, SPST push button switch? What
happens when
> you disconnect both wires from the switch? Does the chime stop?
Touch the
> wires together, does the chime turn on again? If so, your switch
is the wrong
> type. Use a multimeter on the switch contacts, and see what the
switch does.
> The switch could be grounded also, with one of the poles being
momentary
> "on" and the other always "on" always and off when pushed.
>
> Kevin Mc
> Yorba Linda, CA
> 86 38 PT
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at
http://www.aol.com.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>