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Engine room noise/insulation material - Richard Hayden - 06-20-2007 15:00
While my radiator is out I am renewing the heating hoses and installing new
insulation in the engine room. Everything was going along fine till I
discovered that I am a little short of enough insulation material to finish the
job. Has anyone who has done this job have any leftovers? What I am using is
1" thick with foil on one side. There is also a pvc layer between two layers of
open cell foam. I need a piece 46" x 51" or pieces that add up to that. (The
actual pieces needed are 22" x 48" plus 24" x 51").
Any help will by greatly appreciated.
Oh yes, I'll by glad to pay for the material as well as the shipping.
Thanx
Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Engine room noise/insulation material - kingmtpg - 06-21-2007 04:38
Dick, I am new to BB's, having one just a couple of months, but I had
my Cat house off improving intake airflow and adjusting valves. My
insulation was shot so I started looking around for some affordable
insulation material and happened on a website about quieting engine
noise and reducing cab heat in Hummers. (diesel engine right between
driver and passenger) The author wrote that he had found (and used) a
material used to line duct work called Duct Liner. I had already
applied a layer of Astro-Foil (kind of a bubble wrap with aluminum on
both sides) that I had laying around the shop. I went to one of our
local HVAC contractors here and bought WAY more than enough material
to insulate the Cat house. Cost $15. I cut a small sample, put it on
vise (as I did with the Astro-Foil) tried to ignite it on both sides,
then proceded to insulate the Cat house. My 1100 mile road test was
leaving Yuma a couple of weeks ago (100 deg) with 6500# auto hauler
(with 4Runner) in tow. 7300' climb up to Flagstaff, then to Moab via
Mexican Hat and up and over Mokee Dugway to Blanding. We NEVER
experienced any heat radiating through the Cat house. Not once. Maybe
you experienced guys already know about this stuff, if so I couldn't
find it on the forums. On my road test after a couple of particularly
hard climbs, I lifted the Cat hood (with fire extinguisher at hand)
and was surprised to find the interior insulation material no warmer
than my hand. The Cat house was simply not absorbing and retaining
heat. Anyway, not very scientific but worked for me. Total cost,
about $25. Brad Bloxham 35' 78 3208NA Yuma AZ, now Idaho Falls, ID---
In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hayden"
wrote:
>
> While my radiator is out I am renewing the heating hoses and
installing new insulation in the engine room. Everything was going
along fine till I discovered that I am a little short of enough
insulation material to finish the job. Has anyone who has done this
job have any leftovers? What I am using is 1" thick with foil on one
side. There is also a pvc layer between two layers of open cell
foam. I need a piece 46" x 51" or pieces that add up to that. (The
actual pieces needed are 22" x 48" plus 24" x 51").
>
> Any help will by greatly appreciated.
>
> Oh yes, I'll by glad to pay for the material as well as the
shipping.
>
> Thanx
>
> Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Engine room noise/insulation material - mbulriss - 06-21-2007 06:05
Brad,
Interesting report. Since I like first hand reports, I went to
Google on Duct Liner and found that is a generic name with several
different companies making a product with that name (Owens Corning,
CertainTeed, Knauf, Crown Acoustic, etc.).
Which manufacturer made the product you used?
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "kingmtpg"
>
> Dick, I am new to BB's, having one just a couple of months, but I had
> my Cat house off improving intake airflow and adjusting valves. My
> insulation was shot so I started looking around for some affordable
> insulation material and happened on a website about quieting engine
> noise and reducing cab heat in Hummers. (diesel engine right between
> driver and passenger) The author wrote that he had found (and used) a
> material used to line duct work called Duct Liner. I had already
> applied a layer of Astro-Foil (kind of a bubble wrap with aluminum on
> both sides) that I had laying around the shop. I went to one of our
> local HVAC contractors here and bought WAY more than enough material
> to insulate the Cat house. Cost $15. I cut a small sample, put it on
> vise (as I did with the Astro-Foil) tried to ignite it on both sides,
> then proceded to insulate the Cat house. My 1100 mile road test was
> leaving Yuma a couple of weeks ago (100 deg) with 6500# auto hauler
> (with 4Runner) in tow. 7300' climb up to Flagstaff, then to Moab via
> Mexican Hat and up and over Mokee Dugway to Blanding. We NEVER
> experienced any heat radiating through the Cat house. Not once. Maybe
> you experienced guys already know about this stuff, if so I couldn't
> find it on the forums. On my road test after a couple of particularly
> hard climbs, I lifted the Cat hood (with fire extinguisher at hand)
> and was surprised to find the interior insulation material no warmer
> than my hand. The Cat house was simply not absorbing and retaining
> heat. Anyway, not very scientific but worked for me. Total cost,
> about $25. Brad Bloxham 35' 78 3208NA Yuma AZ, now Idaho Falls, ID---
> In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hayden"
> wrote:
> >
> > While my radiator is out I am renewing the heating hoses and
> installing new insulation in the engine room. Everything was going
> along fine till I discovered that I am a little short of enough
> insulation material to finish the job. Has anyone who has done this
> job have any leftovers? What I am using is 1" thick with foil on one
> side. There is also a pvc layer between two layers of open cell
> foam. I need a piece 46" x 51" or pieces that add up to that. (The
> actual pieces needed are 22" x 48" plus 24" x 51").
> >
> > Any help will by greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Oh yes, I'll by glad to pay for the material as well as the
> shipping.
> >
> > Thanx
> >
> > Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
Engine room noise/insulation material - Richard Hayden - 06-21-2007 10:28
Thanks Brad for the comeback. I think I have found what I need from Stephen
Birtles. It sounds to be similar to what I have been using.
Bye the way, what were you doing in Yuma this late? We winter in that area.
Happy travels.
Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: kingmtpg
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:38 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Engine room noise/insulation material
Dick, I am new to BB's, having one just a couple of months, but I had
my Cat house off improving intake airflow and adjusting valves. My
insulation was shot so I started looking around for some affordable
insulation material and happened on a website about quieting engine
noise and reducing cab heat in Hummers. (diesel engine right between
driver and passenger) The author wrote that he had found (and used) a
material used to line duct work called Duct Liner. I had already
applied a layer of Astro-Foil (kind of a bubble wrap with aluminum on
both sides) that I had laying around the shop. I went to one of our
local HVAC contractors here and bought WAY more than enough material
to insulate the Cat house. Cost $15. I cut a small sample, put it on
vise (as I did with the Astro-Foil) tried to ignite it on both sides,
then proceded to insulate the Cat house. My 1100 mile road test was
leaving Yuma a couple of weeks ago (100 deg) with 6500# auto hauler
(with 4Runner) in tow. 7300' climb up to Flagstaff, then to Moab via
Mexican Hat and up and over Mokee Dugway to Blanding. We NEVER
experienced any heat radiating through the Cat house. Not once. Maybe
you experienced guys already know about this stuff, if so I couldn't
find it on the forums. On my road test after a couple of particularly
hard climbs, I lifted the Cat hood (with fire extinguisher at hand)
and was surprised to find the interior insulation material no warmer
than my hand. The Cat house was simply not absorbing and retaining
heat. Anyway, not very scientific but worked for me. Total cost,
about $25. Brad Bloxham 35' 78 3208NA Yuma AZ, now Idaho Falls, ID---
In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
"Richard Hayden"
wrote:
>
> While my radiator is out I am renewing the heating hoses and
installing new insulation in the engine room. Everything was going
along fine till I discovered that I am a little short of enough
insulation material to finish the job. Has anyone who has done this
job have any leftovers? What I am using is 1" thick with foil on one
side. There is also a pvc layer between two layers of open cell
foam. I need a piece 46" x 51" or pieces that add up to that. (The
actual pieces needed are 22" x 48" plus 24" x 51").
>
> Any help will by greatly appreciated.
>
> Oh yes, I'll by glad to pay for the material as well as the
shipping.
>
> Thanx
>
> Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Engine room noise/insulation material - kingmtpg - 06-22-2007 03:37
Ok, Mike. The product was Owens Corning "Quieter". It took me a while
to find the brand name. I am in Idaho and the left over materials is
in Yuma. I called the supplier. They have 2 thicknesses and I used
the heavier of the 2. 1 or 1 1/2 inch as I recall. Brad Bloxham 78
35'FC 3208NA Yuma/Idaho Falls
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...>
wrote:
>
> Brad,
>
> Interesting report. Since I like first hand reports, I went to
> Google on Duct Liner and found that is a generic name with several
> different companies making a product with that name (Owens Corning,
> CertainTeed, Knauf, Crown Acoustic, etc.).
>
> Which manufacturer made the product you used?
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "kingmtpg"
wrote:
> >
> > Dick, I am new to BB's, having one just a couple of months, but I
had
> > my Cat house off improving intake airflow and adjusting valves.
My
> > insulation was shot so I started looking around for some
affordable
> > insulation material and happened on a website about quieting
engine
> > noise and reducing cab heat in Hummers. (diesel engine right
between
> > driver and passenger) The author wrote that he had found (and
used) a
> > material used to line duct work called Duct Liner. I had already
> > applied a layer of Astro-Foil (kind of a bubble wrap with
aluminum on
> > both sides) that I had laying around the shop. I went to one of
our
> > local HVAC contractors here and bought WAY more than enough
material
> > to insulate the Cat house. Cost $15. I cut a small sample, put it
on
> > vise (as I did with the Astro-Foil) tried to ignite it on both
sides,
> > then proceded to insulate the Cat house. My 1100 mile road test
was
> > leaving Yuma a couple of weeks ago (100 deg) with 6500# auto
hauler
> > (with 4Runner) in tow. 7300' climb up to Flagstaff, then to Moab
via
> > Mexican Hat and up and over Mokee Dugway to Blanding. We NEVER
> > experienced any heat radiating through the Cat house. Not once.
Maybe
> > you experienced guys already know about this stuff, if so I
couldn't
> > find it on the forums. On my road test after a couple of
particularly
> > hard climbs, I lifted the Cat hood (with fire extinguisher at
hand)
> > and was surprised to find the interior insulation material no
warmer
> > than my hand. The Cat house was simply not absorbing and
retaining
> > heat. Anyway, not very scientific but worked for me. Total cost,
> > about $25. Brad Bloxham 35' 78 3208NA Yuma AZ, now Idaho Falls,
ID---
> > In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hayden"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > While my radiator is out I am renewing the heating hoses and
> > installing new insulation in the engine room. Everything was
going
> > along fine till I discovered that I am a little short of enough
> > insulation material to finish the job. Has anyone who has done
this
> > job have any leftovers? What I am using is 1" thick with foil on
one
> > side. There is also a pvc layer between two layers of open cell
> > foam. I need a piece 46" x 51" or pieces that add up to that.
(The
> > actual pieces needed are 22" x 48" plus 24" x 51").
> > >
> > > Any help will by greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Oh yes, I'll by glad to pay for the material as well as the
> > shipping.
> > >
> > > Thanx
> > >
> > > Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>