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Driving lights -operation? - thomas_sorrentino - 10-14-2007 04:19

I'm in the process of trying to get my driving lights working. So far
I've figured out:
1.) the high beams have to be on
2.) the suspension has to be up
3.) one lens is clear the other is amber (is this normal)?
They won't swing down all the way without a little manual help.
On the air valve, there is a fitting that looks somewhat like a brake
bleeder fitting. What is the purpose of that? And is it adjustable?
When the switch is in position to put the lights down, air escapes from
it. When I cover the escaping air with my hand, the lights swing up.
And where do I buy a new one since I broke the old one?

Tom Sorrentino
1987 PT38
Bedford Hills, NY

Driving lights -operation? - Curt Sprenger - 10-14-2007 06:06

Tom,

Here are some notes that I saved some time ago. Hope this helps. Please keep
us posting on your project.

First note:
Alan there is a switch that the light has to touch to turn the light on. The

light can be adjusted to hit it. If the cylinder is bad it is a Clippard.
Mine is an SDR-20-3 & I got two new ones for sixty dollars for both. That
made
mine work fine after I adjusted them to come the whole way down. I don't
think you can repair them.
Don
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA

Second note:
These lights to operate.
Dash Switch ON
Headlights Must be on
High beam must be on
Coach must be at ride hieght.

If The lights won't lower check micro switches mouted on light
brackests.
Air control valves are under the front electricial panel.
And of course last of all the air cylinders.
The bulbs are replaceable, as for as the lens????
Good Luck
Allen Powell
88 WLWB PT40


On 10/14/07, thomas_sorrentino wrote:
>
> I'm in the process of trying to get my driving lights working. So far
> I've figured out:
> 1.) the high beams have to be on
> 2.) the suspension has to be up
> 3.) one lens is clear the other is amber (is this normal)?
> They won't swing down all the way without a little manual help.
> On the air valve, there is a fitting that looks somewhat like a brake
> bleeder fitting. What is the purpose of that? And is it adjustable?
> When the switch is in position to put the lights down, air escapes from
> it. When I cover the escaping air with my hand, the lights swing up.
> And where do I buy a new one since I broke the old one?
>
> Tom Sorrentino
> 1987 PT38
> Bedford Hills, NY
>
>
>



--
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Driving lights -operation? - thomas_sorrentino - 10-14-2007 07:18

Curt,

Thanks! When I have all the switches in the correct positions, the
lights just don't swing down far enough. I'd say they come down about
50%. When I manually push them back to hit the micro switch they come
on fine and stay on. I think my problem is more of an air cylinder,
or adjustment problem. Thats why I'm trying to figure out about the
air escaping out of the brake bleeder looking thing on the air
cylinder.

Tom Sorrentino
1987 PT38
Bedford Hills, NY



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger"
wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> Here are some notes that I saved some time ago. Hope this helps.
Please keep
> us posting on your project.
>
> First note:
> Alan there is a switch that the light has to touch to turn the
light on. The
>
> light can be adjusted to hit it. If the cylinder is bad it is a
Clippard.
> Mine is an SDR-20-3 & I got two new ones for sixty dollars for
both. That
> made
> mine work fine after I adjusted them to come the whole way down. I
don't
> think you can repair them.
> Don
> 89 SP 36'
> Butler, PA
>
> Second note:
> These lights to operate.
> Dash Switch ON
> Headlights Must be on
> High beam must be on
> Coach must be at ride hieght.
>
> If The lights won't lower check micro switches mouted on light
> brackests.
> Air control valves are under the front electricial panel.
> And of course last of all the air cylinders.
> The bulbs are replaceable, as for as the lens????
> Good Luck
> Allen Powell
> 88 WLWB PT40
>
>
> On 10/14/07, thomas_sorrentino wrote:
> >
> > I'm in the process of trying to get my driving lights working.
So far
> > I've figured out:
> > 1.) the high beams have to be on
> > 2.) the suspension has to be up
> > 3.) one lens is clear the other is amber (is this normal)?
> > They won't swing down all the way without a little manual help.
> > On the air valve, there is a fitting that looks somewhat like a
brake
> > bleeder fitting. What is the purpose of that? And is it
adjustable?
> > When the switch is in position to put the lights down, air
escapes from
> > it. When I cover the escaping air with my hand, the lights swing
up.
> > And where do I buy a new one since I broke the old one?
> >
> > Tom Sorrentino
> > 1987 PT38
> > Bedford Hills, NY
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, CA
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Driving lights -operation? - Tom McCarthy - 10-21-2007 10:44

Coincidently, I was checking all the lights the other night. I tried
the Fog/Driving light switch. Nothing. At Holland Motor Homes, I
asked them to chek the bulbs and/or power. They said the Fog/driving
lights came on with HIGH beams! Why would anyone want these lights
meant for fog on when high beams do not work well in fog?

Just to see what cars do, I checked all I had. All makes, years and
models worked only on low beams and never on high. Those include '07
BMW X3, '01 BMW, '06 Mini Cooper, '07 Astin Martin.

Now I read you guys saying yours only come on with high beams, too.
Why? I thought somebody reversed mine at some point. What is the
logic, or lack thereof, in this setup?

Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
95 PT42
Poway CA


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger"
wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> Here are some notes that I saved some time ago. Hope this helps.
Please keep
> us posting on your project.
>
> First note:
> Alan there is a switch that the light has to touch to turn the
light on. The
>
> light can be adjusted to hit it. If the cylinder is bad it is a
Clippard.
> Mine is an SDR-20-3 & I got two new ones for sixty dollars for
both. That
> made
> mine work fine after I adjusted them to come the whole way down. I
don't
> think you can repair them.
> Don
> 89 SP 36'
> Butler, PA
>
> Second note:
> These lights to operate.
> Dash Switch ON
> Headlights Must be on
> High beam must be on
> Coach must be at ride hieght.
>
> If The lights won't lower check micro switches mouted on light
> brackests.
> Air control valves are under the front electricial panel.
> And of course last of all the air cylinders.
> The bulbs are replaceable, as for as the lens????
> Good Luck
> Allen Powell
> 88 WLWB PT40
>
>
> On 10/14/07, thomas_sorrentino wrote:
> >
> > I'm in the process of trying to get my driving lights working.
So far
> > I've figured out:
> > 1.) the high beams have to be on
> > 2.) the suspension has to be up
> > 3.) one lens is clear the other is amber (is this normal)?
> > They won't swing down all the way without a little manual help.
> > On the air valve, there is a fitting that looks somewhat like a
brake
> > bleeder fitting. What is the purpose of that? And is it
adjustable?
> > When the switch is in position to put the lights down, air
escapes from
> > it. When I cover the escaping air with my hand, the lights swing
up.
> > And where do I buy a new one since I broke the old one?
> >
> > Tom Sorrentino
> > 1987 PT38
> > Bedford Hills, NY
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, CA
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Driving lights -operation? - Pete Masterson - 10-21-2007 10:49

Whether it makes sense, or not, that's how it works. I guess they
consider them "driving" lights. When I had an MG-B sports car, I had
high intensity driving lights that came on with high-beam unless
their separate switch was off. "Fog" lights are normally set to work
with low beam.

Also the rear "landing lights" only operate when the coach is in
reverse. Not much help when I wanted some light to unhook my toad --
I sure didn't want to put the bus in reverse to then work behind it!
I plan to re-wire the rear lights someday....

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
1995 Wanderlodge WBDA 42
On the road at Idaho Springs, CO


On Oct 21, 2007, at 4:44 PM, Tom McCarthy wrote:

> Coincidently, I was checking all the lights the other night. I tried
> the Fog/Driving light switch. Nothing. At Holland Motor Homes, I
> asked them to chek the bulbs and/or power. They said the Fog/driving
> lights came on with HIGH beams! Why would anyone want these lights
> meant for fog on when high beams do not work well in fog?
>
> Just to see what cars do, I checked all I had. All makes, years and
> models worked only on low beams and never on high. Those include '07
> BMW X3, '01 BMW, '06 Mini Cooper, '07 Astin Martin.
>
> Now I read you guys saying yours only come on with high beams, too.
> Why? I thought somebody reversed mine at some point. What is the
> logic, or lack thereof, in this setup?
>
> Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
> 95 PT42
> Poway CA

Driving lights -operation? - Rob Robinson - 10-21-2007 10:59

On 21/10/2007, Pete Masterson wrote:
>
> Whether it makes sense, or not, that's how it works. I guess they
> consider them "driving" lights. When I had an MG-B sports car, I had
> high intensity driving lights that came on with high-beam unless
> their separate switch was off. "Fog" lights are normally set to work
> with low beam.
>
> Also the rear "landing lights" only operate when the coach is in
> reverse. Not much help when I wanted some light to unhook my toad --
> I sure didn't want to put the bus in reverse to then work behind it!
> I plan to re-wire the rear lights someday....
>
> Pete Masterson
> aeonix1@...
> 1995 Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> On the road at Idaho Springs, CO
>
> On Oct 21, 2007, at 4:44 PM, Tom McCarthy wrote:
>
> > Coincidently, I was checking all the lights the other night. I tried
> > the Fog/Driving light switch. Nothing. At Holland Motor Homes, I
> > asked them to chek the bulbs and/or power. They said the Fog/driving
> > lights came on with HIGH beams! Why would anyone want these lights
> > meant for fog on when high beams do not work well in fog?
> >
> > Just to see what cars do, I checked all I had. All makes, years and
> > models worked only on low beams and never on high. Those include '07
> > BMW X3, '01 BMW, '06 Mini Cooper, '07 Astin Martin.
> >
> > Now I read you guys saying yours only come on with high beams, too.
> > Why? I thought somebody reversed mine at some point. What is the
> > logic, or lack thereof, in this setup?
> >
> > Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
> > 95 PT42
> > Poway CA
>
>
>



--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
94 WLWB


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Driving lights -operation? - Rob Robinson - 10-21-2007 11:01

Tommy my lights are fog lights and they only come on if I have my main
lights on and set to low beam. My manual says that if I had driving lights
in place of the fog lights the driving lights would only come on with the
main lights on and high beam setting.

On 21/10/2007, Tom McCarthy wrote:
>
> Coincidently, I was checking all the lights the other night. I tried
> the Fog/Driving light switch. Nothing. At Holland Motor Homes, I
> asked them to chek the bulbs and/or power. They said the Fog/driving
> lights came on with HIGH beams! Why would anyone want these lights
> meant for fog on when high beams do not work well in fog?
>
> Just to see what cars do, I checked all I had. All makes, years and
> models worked only on low beams and never on high. Those include '07
> BMW X3, '01 BMW, '06 Mini Cooper, '07 Astin Martin.
>
> Now I read you guys saying yours only come on with high beams, too.
> Why? I thought somebody reversed mine at some point. What is the
> logic, or lack thereof, in this setup?
>
> Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
> 95 PT42
> Poway CA
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> "Curt Sprenger"
> wrote:
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > Here are some notes that I saved some time ago. Hope this helps.
> Please keep
> > us posting on your project.
> >
> > First note:
> > Alan there is a switch that the light has to touch to turn the
> light on. The
> >
> > light can be adjusted to hit it. If the cylinder is bad it is a
> Clippard.
> > Mine is an SDR-20-3 & I got two new ones for sixty dollars for
> both. That
> > made
> > mine work fine after I adjusted them to come the whole way down. I
> don't
> > think you can repair them.
> > Don
> > 89 SP 36'
> > Butler, PA
> >
> > Second note:
> > These lights to operate.
> > Dash Switch ON
> > Headlights Must be on
> > High beam must be on
> > Coach must be at ride hieght.
> >
> > If The lights won't lower check micro switches mouted on light
> > brackests.
> > Air control valves are under the front electricial panel.
> > And of course last of all the air cylinders.
> > The bulbs are replaceable, as for as the lens????
> > Good Luck
> > Allen Powell
> > 88 WLWB PT40
> >
> >
> > On 10/14/07, thomas_sorrentino wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm in the process of trying to get my driving lights working.
> So far
> > > I've figured out:
> > > 1.) the high beams have to be on
> > > 2.) the suspension has to be up
> > > 3.) one lens is clear the other is amber (is this normal)?
> > > They won't swing down all the way without a little manual help.
> > > On the air valve, there is a fitting that looks somewhat like a
> brake
> > > bleeder fitting. What is the purpose of that? And is it
> adjustable?
> > > When the switch is in position to put the lights down, air
> escapes from
> > > it. When I cover the escaping air with my hand, the lights swing
> up.
> > > And where do I buy a new one since I broke the old one?
> > >
> > > Tom Sorrentino
> > > 1987 PT38
> > > Bedford Hills, NY
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Curt Sprenger
> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > Anaheim Hills, CA
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>



--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
94 WLWB


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Driving lights -operation? - bloomas - 10-21-2007 11:14

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom McCarthy
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 5:44 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Driving lights -operation?
Mine use to only come on with the hi beams.Took care of that problem rewired
them thought a relay to turn on by them self.
Bob Loomas 1985 PT 36

Coincidently, I was checking all the lights the other night. I tried
the Fog/Driving light switch. Nothing. At Holland Motor Homes, I
asked them to chek the bulbs and/or power. They said the Fog/driving
lights came on with HIGH beams! Why would anyone want these lights
meant for fog on when high beams do not work well in fog?

Just to see what cars do, I checked all I had. All makes, years and
models worked only on low beams and never on high. Those include '07
BMW X3, '01 BMW, '06 Mini Cooper, '07 Astin Martin.

Now I read you guys saying yours only come on with high beams, too.
Why? I thought somebody reversed mine at some point. What is the
logic, or lack thereof, in this setup?

Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
95 PT42
Poway CA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger"
wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> Here are some notes that I saved some time ago. Hope this helps.
Please keep
> us posting on your project.
>
> First note:
> Alan there is a switch that the light has to touch to turn the
light on. The
>
> light can be adjusted to hit it. If the cylinder is bad it is a
Clippard.
> Mine is an SDR-20-3 & I got two new ones for sixty dollars for
both. That
> made
> mine work fine after I adjusted them to come the whole way down. I
don't
> think you can repair them.
> Don
> 89 SP 36'
> Butler, PA
>
> Second note:
> These lights to operate.
> Dash Switch ON
> Headlights Must be on
> High beam must be on
> Coach must be at ride hieght.
>
> If The lights won't lower check micro switches mouted on light
> brackests.
> Air control valves are under the front electricial panel.
> And of course last of all the air cylinders.
> The bulbs are replaceable, as for as the lens????
> Good Luck
> Allen Powell
> 88 WLWB PT40
>
>
> On 10/14/07, thomas_sorrentino wrote:
> >
> > I'm in the process of trying to get my driving lights working.
So far
> > I've figured out:
> > 1.) the high beams have to be on
> > 2.) the suspension has to be up
> > 3.) one lens is clear the other is amber (is this normal)?
> > They won't swing down all the way without a little manual help.
> > On the air valve, there is a fitting that looks somewhat like a
brake
> > bleeder fitting. What is the purpose of that? And is it
adjustable?
> > When the switch is in position to put the lights down, air
escapes from
> > it. When I cover the escaping air with my hand, the lights swing
up.
> > And where do I buy a new one since I broke the old one?
> >
> > Tom Sorrentino
> > 1987 PT38
> > Bedford Hills, NY
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, CA
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Driving lights -operation? - Tom McCarthy - 10-21-2007 11:14

Rob, the switch reads "Fog/Driving Lights." From this information,
the two apparently are mutually exclusive. I rarely need high beams
but often get nighttime fog in CA. I asked HMH if they could switch
the operation to FOG and low beams, just like my fleet of autos.

Tommy 2S McCarthy
Poway CA


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson"
wrote:
>
> Tommy my lights are fog lights and they only come on if I have my
main
> lights on and set to low beam. My manual says that if I had driving
lights
> in place of the fog lights the driving lights would only come on
with the
> main lights on and high beam setting.
>
> On 21/10/2007, Tom McCarthy wrote:
> >
> > Coincidently, I was checking all the lights the other night. I
tried
> > the Fog/Driving light switch. Nothing. At Holland Motor Homes, I
> > asked them to chek the bulbs and/or power. They said the
Fog/driving
> > lights came on with HIGH beams! Why would anyone want these lights
> > meant for fog on when high beams do not work well in fog?
> >
> > Just to see what cars do, I checked all I had. All makes, years
and
> > models worked only on low beams and never on high. Those
include '07
> > BMW X3, '01 BMW, '06 Mini Cooper, '07 Astin Martin.
> >
> > Now I read you guys saying yours only come on with high beams,
too.
> > Why? I thought somebody reversed mine at some point. What is the
> > logic, or lack thereof, in this setup?
> >
> > Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
> > 95 PT42
> > Poway CA
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Curt Sprenger"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > > Here are some notes that I saved some time ago. Hope this helps.
> > Please keep
> > > us posting on your project.
> > >
> > > First note:
> > > Alan there is a switch that the light has to touch to turn the
> > light on. The
> > >
> > > light can be adjusted to hit it. If the cylinder is bad it is a
> > Clippard.
> > > Mine is an SDR-20-3 & I got two new ones for sixty dollars for
> > both. That
> > > made
> > > mine work fine after I adjusted them to come the whole way
down. I
> > don't
> > > think you can repair them.
> > > Don
> > > 89 SP 36'
> > > Butler, PA
> > >
> > > Second note:
> > > These lights to operate.
> > > Dash Switch ON
> > > Headlights Must be on
> > > High beam must be on
> > > Coach must be at ride hieght.
> > >
> > > If The lights won't lower check micro switches mouted on light
> > > brackests.
> > > Air control valves are under the front electricial panel.
> > > And of course last of all the air cylinders.
> > > The bulbs are replaceable, as for as the lens????
> > > Good Luck
> > > Allen Powell
> > > 88 WLWB PT40
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/14/07, thomas_sorrentino wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm in the process of trying to get my driving lights working.
> > So far
> > > > I've figured out:
> > > > 1.) the high beams have to be on
> > > > 2.) the suspension has to be up
> > > > 3.) one lens is clear the other is amber (is this normal)?
> > > > They won't swing down all the way without a little manual
help.
> > > > On the air valve, there is a fitting that looks somewhat like
a
> > brake
> > > > bleeder fitting. What is the purpose of that? And is it
> > adjustable?
> > > > When the switch is in position to put the lights down, air
> > escapes from
> > > > it. When I cover the escaping air with my hand, the lights
swing
> > up.
> > > > And where do I buy a new one since I broke the old one?
> > > >
> > > > Tom Sorrentino
> > > > 1987 PT38
> > > > Bedford Hills, NY
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Curt Sprenger
> > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > Anaheim Hills, CA
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> 94 WLWB
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Driving lights -operation? - jim riordan - 10-21-2007 11:17

Well, I belive that (at least on mine) they are driving lights not fog lamps.

/once activated by suspension up high beams on they do operate on low beam

Jim Riordan

See you al at RITV

Tom McCarthy wrote:
Coincidently, I was checking all the lights the other night. I tried
the Fog/Driving light switch. Nothing. At Holland Motor Homes, I
asked them to chek the bulbs and/or power. They said the Fog/driving
lights came on with HIGH beams! Why would anyone want these lights
meant for fog on when high beams do not work well in fog?

Just to see what cars do, I checked all I had. All makes, years and
models worked only on low beams and never on high. Those include '07
BMW X3, '01 BMW, '06 Mini Cooper, '07 Astin Martin.

Now I read you guys saying yours only come on with high beams, too.
Why? I thought somebody reversed mine at some point. What is the
logic, or lack thereof, in this setup?

Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
95 PT42
Poway CA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger"
wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> Here are some notes that I saved some time ago. Hope this helps.
Please keep
> us posting on your project.
>
> First note:
> Alan there is a switch that the light has to touch to turn the
light on. The
>
> light can be adjusted to hit it. If the cylinder is bad it is a
Clippard.
> Mine is an SDR-20-3 & I got two new ones for sixty dollars for
both. That
> made
> mine work fine after I adjusted them to come the whole way down. I
don't
> think you can repair them.
> Don
> 89 SP 36'
> Butler, PA
>
> Second note:
> These lights to operate.
> Dash Switch ON
> Headlights Must be on
> High beam must be on
> Coach must be at ride hieght.
>
> If The lights won't lower check micro switches mouted on light
> brackests.
> Air control valves are under the front electricial panel.
> And of course last of all the air cylinders.
> The bulbs are replaceable, as for as the lens????
> Good Luck
> Allen Powell
> 88 WLWB PT40
>
>
> On 10/14/07, thomas_sorrentino wrote:
> >
> > I'm in the process of trying to get my driving lights working.
So far
> > I've figured out:
> > 1.) the high beams have to be on
> > 2.) the suspension has to be up
> > 3.) one lens is clear the other is amber (is this normal)?
> > They won't swing down all the way without a little manual help.
> > On the air valve, there is a fitting that looks somewhat like a
brake
> > bleeder fitting. What is the purpose of that? And is it
adjustable?
> > When the switch is in position to put the lights down, air
escapes from
> > it. When I cover the escaping air with my hand, the lights swing
up.
> > And where do I buy a new one since I broke the old one?
> >
> > Tom Sorrentino
> > 1987 PT38
> > Bedford Hills, NY
> >
> >
> >
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> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, CA
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