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Considering heated Tile floors - Jack and Liz Pearce - 11-18-2007 11:29 Howdy. Since our kitchen and bathroom tile floors need to be replace, we are considering having heated tile floors. Do you have them in your coach? Pros or cons would be appreciated. TIA, Liz Regards, Jack and Liz Pearce Fulltiming in a 1993 Wanderlodge WLWB Considering heated Tile floors - Kurt Horvath - 11-18-2007 16:34 Hi Liz, I have heated tile floors in the Bath Room of my house. NICE! there is nothing like warm feet in the morning. Can set the temp to over 100 degrees. I also lived in an apt in Belgium that had heated floors in the entire apt. Very nice indeed. If your feet are warn the air temp doesn't seem to much matter. I am going to replace the tiles in my kitchen and bath on my coach, I will place electric heating mats on the floor before the tiles go in. I'm not sure of the draw on the electric system in your coach, but as with any 120V heating system, it is power hungry. There are also hydronic units that use antifreeze in pipes that are laid on the floor under the tiles. They use a special plastic pipe, The problem you may run into is the thickness of these pipes. If you can over come this, then you would have unlimited heat if you could run the system through your engine. I heard of these systems in some of the other custom coaches, (PREVOST). So I know it can be done. Just a question of time & money. Good luck, let us know how it goes. Kurt Horvath '95 PT-42 WLWB 10 AC ----- Original Message ---- From: Jack and Liz Pearce To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:29:22 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Considering heated Tile floors Howdy. Since our kitchen and bathroom tile floors need to be replace, we are considering having heated tile floors. Do you have them in your coach? Pros or cons would be appreciated. TIA, Liz Regards, Jack and Liz Pearce Fulltiming in a 1993 Wanderlodge WLWB ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Considering heated Tile floors - erniecarpet@... - 11-18-2007 19:52 Liz, heated tile floors are quite common in our northern climates. After just completing Wallace and Fayes 95 42 WLWB, I can shed a little light on what you need to expect. Their coach had some cracked tiles, also. Although, those tiles came up fairly easily, the rest was a different story. We- Bim Burt and I had to use an air chisel, to get up the tile- in little pieces. That process took 2 days of intense labor. The dust, even though we covered couches, chairs, and bed was everywhere. That is the only way to take that material up. Of course, you cannot live in the coach while this process takes place. We took an additional 2 days to do the wood installation. I suspect that tile installation would even take longer. Again, you must vacate the coach, as you cannot walk on the tile till the mastic/thinset hardens. The expense of motel rooms must be factored in your price, along with the labor to remove the tile, grout and thinset- to make the floor smooth. The price for your heated mats are quite expensive, also. On our demo, we gouged the floor due to the fact that the tile and mastic would not come up inless you chiseled under that material. We had to put some leveling material down to counteract that previous procedure. I don't want to scare you on this project, just to give you some insight on what to expect. Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Weatherford, Tx ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Considering heated Tile floors - Jack and Liz Pearce - 11-19-2007 02:23 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Kurt Horvath wrote: > > Hi Liz, > > I have heated tile floors in the Bath Room of my house. NICE! there is nothing like warm feet in the morning. Can set the temp to over 100 degrees. I also lived in an apt in Belgium that had heated floors in the entire apt. Very nice indeed. If your feet are warn the air temp doesn't seem to much matter. I am going to replace the tiles in my kitchen and bath on my coach, I will place electric heating mats on the floor before the tiles go in. I'm not sure of the draw on the electric system in your coach, but as with any 120V heating system, it is power hungry. There are also hydronic units that use antifreeze in pipes that are laid on the floor under the tiles. They use a special plastic pipe, The problem you may run into is the thickness of these pipes. If you can over come this, then you would have unlimited heat if you could run the system through your engine. I heard of these systems in some of the other custom coaches, (PREVOST). So I know it can be > done. Just a question of time & money. Good luck, let us know how it goes. > > Kurt Horvath > '95 PT-42 WLWB Howdy, Kurt. Thanks for writing a very informative reply. ![]() Regards, Jack and Liz Pearce Fulltiming in a 1993 Wanderlodge WLWB Leaving for Hondo, TX [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Considering heated Tile floors - Jack and Liz Pearce - 11-19-2007 02:28 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@... wrote: > > Liz, heated tile floors are quite common in our northern climates. After > just completing Wallace and Fayes 95 42 WLWB, I can shed a little light on what > you need to expect. Their coach had some cracked tiles, also. Although, those > tiles came up fairly easily, the rest was a different story. We- Bim Burt and > I had to use an air chisel, to get up the tile- in little pieces. That > process took 2 days of intense labor. The dust, even though we covered couches, > chairs, and bed was everywhere. That is the only way to take that material up. > Of course, you cannot live in the coach while this process takes place. We > took an additional 2 days to do the wood installation. I suspect that tile > installation would even take longer. Again, you must vacate the coach, as you > cannot walk on the tile till the mastic/thinset hardens. > The expense of motel rooms must be factored in your price, along with the > labor to remove the tile, grout and thinset- to make the floor smooth. The price > for your heated mats are quite expensive, also. On our demo, we gouged the > floor due to the fact that the tile and mastic would not come up inless you > chiseled under that material. We had to put some leveling material down to > counteract that previous procedure. > I don't want to scare you on this project, just to give you some insight on > what to expect. > > Ernie Ekberg > 83PT40 > Weatherford, Tx Howdy, Ernie. Thanks for writing and the information. We might impose on our son for lodging. Heaven knows he stayed in our house for years!!! See you soon. Regards, Jack and Liz Pearce Fulltiming in a 1993 Wanderlodge WLWB Leaving for Hondo tomorrow. Considering heated Tile floors - Pete Masterson - 11-19-2007 02:54 I can affirm that the tile doesn't come up easily -- and it's a multi- day job. I replaced the flooring from the doorway to the bedroom, down the side aisle past the bathroom all the way to the dashboard with bamboo flooring planks (glued down). While the galley area tile was it pretty good shape, it was laid with a concave border on one side and (with my skill set) I felt that I'd never be able to cut the floor planks to meet attractively to the tile -- so out it came. It was very firmly glued down over a base of 'Wonderboard' (a cement- like sheet) that was in turn glued and screwed into the 1/2" plywood sub-floor. Unlike Ernie, I don't have an air chisel, so removal was done using a pry-bar and 10# sledge hammer. This didn't toss much dust around -- but it did tear up the sub-floor significantly. It took about 5 or 6 hours to pull up all the tile in the kitchen area. That's not a full day, but I was pretty well "done" for the day once the tile was up and the area swept up and vacuumed. I used my circular saw to cut out a section (about 3 x 6 feet) of the subfloor. Adjust the depth of the blade carefull, as there be steel underneath, so expect to ruin a circular saw blade (at least I did -- but it was an old one). After screwing down the replacement sub-floor piece (you'll need to drill pilot holes in the steel sub-subfloor), I touched up the remaining area (and small gap around the sub-floor patch) with self-leveling filler. Then I was able to proceed with laying the new flooring (a multi-day job itself). I could not have done this while on the road ... it was only possible to do while we were at 'home base.' Had we opted to replace the carpet instead of going to the bamboo, the time spent with the project would have been considerably less -- and I wouldn't have had to pull up the tile... Pete Masterson '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 aeonix1@... On the road at Lockhart, Texas On Nov 19, 2007, at 6:52 AM, erniecarpet@... wrote: > Liz, heated tile floors are quite common in our northern climates. > After > just completing Wallace and Fayes 95 42 WLWB, I can shed a little > light on what > you need to expect. Their coach had some cracked tiles, also. > Although, those > tiles came up fairly easily, the rest was a different story. We- > Bim Burt and > I had to use an air chisel, to get up the tile- in little pieces. > That > process took 2 days of intense labor. The dust, even though we > covered couches, > chairs, and bed was everywhere. That is the only way to take that > material up. > Of course, you cannot live in the coach while this process takes > place. We > took an additional 2 days to do the wood installation. I suspect > that tile > installation would even take longer. Again, you must vacate the > coach, as you > cannot walk on the tile till the mastic/thinset hardens. > The expense of motel rooms must be factored in your price, along > with the > labor to remove the tile, grout and thinset- to make the floor > smooth. The price > for your heated mats are quite expensive, also. On our demo, we > gouged the > floor due to the fact that the tile and mastic would not come up > inless you > chiseled under that material. We had to put some leveling material > down to > counteract that previous procedure. > I don't want to scare you on this project, just to give you some > insight on > what to expect. > > Ernie Ekberg > 83PT40 > Weatherford, Tx > > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http:// > http://www.aol.com > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > |