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Want to buy Bluebird - Larry Parmenter - 11-20-2007 16:56
Hi,
We're looking for our first bird, 31-37 ft? Anyone with advice would be welcome.
Thanks,
Larry & Linda
Bandon, OR
larrylarry75@...
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Want to buy Bluebird - bubblerboy64 - 11-21-2007 02:25
Larry, Having been thru this last year this forum will help you a
lot.
Study the "Bill Board" and other online sites. Spend some money and
time traveling to see and touch the best prospects and above all be
patient until "the one" shows up. And be ready to move when it does.
The most important thing for me was to get out and see a couple BB's
so
that I had an idea of what would suit my personal needs. A lot
depends
on how you intend to use the bus. Long distance travel? Living in
it
for extended periods? Local short trips? How many people etc, etc?
And then your budget for the project.
John Heckman
central Pa
1973 FC
>
> Hi,
> We're looking for our first bird, 31-37 ft? Anyone with advice
would
be welcome.
> Thanks,
> Larry & Linda
> Bandon, OR
>
> larrylarry75@...
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Want to buy Bluebird - Rob Robinson - 11-21-2007 03:15
Larry you can find birds for sale at http://www.buybyebluebird.com or
http://www.birdconnection.com or vintage birds
On 20/11/2007, Larry Parmenter
>
> Hi,
> We're looking for our first bird, 31-37 ft? Anyone with advice would be
> welcome.
> Thanks,
> Larry & Linda
> Bandon, OR
>
> larrylarry75@...
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
94 WLWB
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Want to buy Bluebird - Ryan Wright - 11-21-2007 07:53
On Nov 20, 2007 8:56 PM, Larry Parmenter
>
> We're looking for our first bird, 31-37 ft? Anyone with advice would be
> welcome.
1. Patience, patience. Don't get excited and blind yourself to obvious
problems. Inspect any potential coach thoroughly or pay someone
knowledgeable to inspect it for you if you aren't comfortable doing
so.
2. Have cash or loan pre-approval in place. That way, when you find
the right one, you can jump on it.
3. I'm about 8 hours northeast of you. If you ever make it up this
way, you're welcome to come tour my coach to get ideas, etc. If you
haven't been in a Wanderlodge before, do so.
4. If you're looking to go 37 feet, might as well go 40 feet. The
PT-40 is really a palace on wheels and quite easy to drive.
-Ryan
'86 PT-40 8V92
Tri-Cities, WA
Want to buy Bluebird - erniecarpet@... - 11-21-2007 08:02
Or-- in the database of this forum look in the classifieds section
birdconnection.birdconnection.
Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Weatherford, Tx
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Want to buy Bluebird - John McGinnis - 11-22-2007 05:36
Once upon a time... Buying a Wanderlodge is a lot like buying your
first home. First only look at Birds within your means, if you're on
a beer budget don't pull out the Champagne glasses. There are a lot
of similarities with the two purchases. Don't even look at birds out
of your budget range, by doing so will only lead to disapointment.
Next you would not buy a home without a home inspection, so you
should get a Pre-Delivery Inspection on your potential Bird. Find
someone in your area or the area of the bird who is knowledgable on
that particular coach and hire them to go over the systems with you.
This will let you know what works, and what needs repairs or
replacement, and a PDI is a great negoiaging tool and you have
leverage when it comes to writing the check. Another issue; you
would not buy a house without an appraisal, nor would a lender loan
money on a home without a certified appraisal, so get a certified
appraisal on any potential purchase. A PDI & an appraisal are not
the same thing they serve two differnt purposes. Do not rely on NADA
or Ebay as reliable sources of value, nor the past sells by desperate
sellers. None of these are true representations of real value. NADA
may have had only one subject sold in the last quarter and that coach
could be the best coach on the worst day of public auction with no
competitive bidders. That is not a true representation of value, you
want to pay a fair market value and get a coach that is worth 100% or
more of what you paid. Another reason for the appraisal is if by
chance you are able to find the once in the lifetime bargain you
would want to insure your coach for it's true replacement value. A
200K dollar coach bought for a 100K and insured for 100K then written
off as a total lose, the insurance company will not pay the
difference in value, so get it insured for the full value, the only
way to do this is with a certified appraisal.
Financing: DON'T do it! Can't write a check wait until you can. A
loan payment on a Bird is no fun when you don't have the money to buy
fuel for the fun trips or the extra cash to make upgrades and repairs
when needed.
Last thing you should know about Bluebirds, it is at times easier &
quicker to get a divorce then it is to sell a Bluebird, so know what
you are getting into and be prepared to make the commitment because
it is most of the time for the long haul. Good luck & happy hunting.
John 88FC35 Louisville, KY/Jeffersonville, IN
Want to buy Bluebird - mbulriss - 11-22-2007 06:33
John,
IMO that is one of the best write-ups that I have seen in a long time
for wannabes. Good job!
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "John McGinnis"
>
> Once upon a time... Buying a Wanderlodge is a lot like buying your
> first home. First only look at Birds within your means, if you're on
> a beer budget don't pull out the Champagne glasses. There are a lot
> of similarities with the two purchases. Don't even look at birds out
> of your budget range, by doing so will only lead to disapointment.
> Next you would not buy a home without a home inspection, so you
> should get a Pre-Delivery Inspection on your potential Bird. Find
> someone in your area or the area of the bird who is knowledgable on
> that particular coach and hire them to go over the systems with you.
> This will let you know what works, and what needs repairs or
> replacement, and a PDI is a great negoiaging tool and you have
> leverage when it comes to writing the check. Another issue; you
> would not buy a house without an appraisal, nor would a lender loan
> money on a home without a certified appraisal, so get a certified
> appraisal on any potential purchase. A PDI & an appraisal are not
> the same thing they serve two differnt purposes. Do not rely on NADA
> or Ebay as reliable sources of value, nor the past sells by desperate
> sellers. None of these are true representations of real value. NADA
> may have had only one subject sold in the last quarter and that coach
> could be the best coach on the worst day of public auction with no
> competitive bidders. That is not a true representation of value, you
> want to pay a fair market value and get a coach that is worth 100% or
> more of what you paid. Another reason for the appraisal is if by
> chance you are able to find the once in the lifetime bargain you
> would want to insure your coach for it's true replacement value. A
> 200K dollar coach bought for a 100K and insured for 100K then written
> off as a total lose, the insurance company will not pay the
> difference in value, so get it insured for the full value, the only
> way to do this is with a certified appraisal.
> Financing: DON'T do it! Can't write a check wait until you can. A
> loan payment on a Bird is no fun when you don't have the money to buy
> fuel for the fun trips or the extra cash to make upgrades and repairs
> when needed.
> Last thing you should know about Bluebirds, it is at times easier &
> quicker to get a divorce then it is to sell a Bluebird, so know what
> you are getting into and be prepared to make the commitment because
> it is most of the time for the long haul. Good luck & happy hunting.
> John 88FC35 Louisville, KY/Jeffersonville, IN
>
Want to buy Bluebird - Peter T. Arnold - 11-22-2007 11:49
Great write-up.
I do not completely agree with "Don't finance it" Lot's of reasons in
my life to leave the capitol invested and take the tax advantage of
long tern financing.
YMMV
Pete
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:36:53 -0000, you wrote:
>Once upon a time... Buying a Wanderlodge is a lot like buying your
>first home. First only look at Birds within your means, if you're on
>a beer budget don't pull out the Champagne glasses. There are a lot
>of similarities with the two purchases. Don't even look at birds out
>of your budget range, by doing so will only lead to disapointment.
>Next you would not buy a home without a home inspection, so you
>should get a Pre-Delivery Inspection on your potential Bird. Find
>someone in your area or the area of the bird who is knowledgable on
>that particular coach and hire them to go over the systems with you.
>This will let you know what works, and what needs repairs or
>replacement, and a PDI is a great negoiaging tool and you have
>leverage when it comes to writing the check. Another issue; you
>would not buy a house without an appraisal, nor would a lender loan
>money on a home without a certified appraisal, so get a certified
>appraisal on any potential purchase. A PDI & an appraisal are not
>the same thing they serve two differnt purposes. Do not rely on NADA
>or Ebay as reliable sources of value, nor the past sells by desperate
>sellers. None of these are true representations of real value. NADA
>may have had only one subject sold in the last quarter and that coach
>could be the best coach on the worst day of public auction with no
>competitive bidders. That is not a true representation of value, you
>want to pay a fair market value and get a coach that is worth 100% or
>more of what you paid. Another reason for the appraisal is if by
>chance you are able to find the once in the lifetime bargain you
>would want to insure your coach for it's true replacement value. A
>200K dollar coach bought for a 100K and insured for 100K then written
>off as a total lose, the insurance company will not pay the
>difference in value, so get it insured for the full value, the only
>way to do this is with a certified appraisal.
>Financing: DON'T do it! Can't write a check wait until you can. A
>loan payment on a Bird is no fun when you don't have the money to buy
>fuel for the fun trips or the extra cash to make upgrades and repairs
>when needed.
>Last thing you should know about Bluebirds, it is at times easier &
>quicker to get a divorce then it is to sell a Bluebird, so know what
>you are getting into and be prepared to make the commitment because
>it is most of the time for the long haul. Good luck & happy hunting.
>John 88FC35 Louisville, KY/Jeffersonville, IN
--
Fraternal Regards,
Peter T. Arnold
Worthy Patron, Temple Chapter #53 {3rd Time}
Hartford Evergreen Lodge #88 Past Master
Meets on 1st and 3rd Mondays
Washington Lodge #70, Past Master 1997
2nd and 4th Monday
Yahoo 6th District B.L.C. Newsgroup Co-Moderator
Past A.G.M., Masonic District 6B
Grand Lodge of Connecticut A.F. & A.M.
As you can see, I'm busy on Mondays!
Want to buy Bluebird - Scott Forman - 11-22-2007 15:23
I want to echo that, financing is not all bad, although I would
advise against financing 100% of the cost and keep the term short.
Scott Forman
86 PT38
Memphis
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Peter T. Arnold
>
> Great write-up.
>
> I do not completely agree with "Don't finance it" Lot's of reasons
in
> my life to leave the capitol invested and take the tax advantage of
> long tern financing.
>
> YMMV
>
> Pete
>
> On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:36:53 -0000, you wrote:
>
> >Once upon a time... Buying a Wanderlodge is a lot like buying
your
> >first home. First only look at Birds within your means, if you're
on
> >a beer budget don't pull out the Champagne glasses. There are a
lot
> >of similarities with the two purchases. Don't even look at birds
out
> >of your budget range, by doing so will only lead to
disapointment.
> >Next you would not buy a home without a home inspection, so you
> >should get a Pre-Delivery Inspection on your potential Bird. Find
> >someone in your area or the area of the bird who is knowledgable
on
> >that particular coach and hire them to go over the systems with
you.
> >This will let you know what works, and what needs repairs or
> >replacement, and a PDI is a great negoiaging tool and you have
> >leverage when it comes to writing the check. Another issue; you
> >would not buy a house without an appraisal, nor would a lender
loan
> >money on a home without a certified appraisal, so get a certified
> >appraisal on any potential purchase. A PDI & an appraisal are not
> >the same thing they serve two differnt purposes. Do not rely on
NADA
> >or Ebay as reliable sources of value, nor the past sells by
desperate
> >sellers. None of these are true representations of real value.
NADA
> >may have had only one subject sold in the last quarter and that
coach
> >could be the best coach on the worst day of public auction with no
> >competitive bidders. That is not a true representation of value,
you
> >want to pay a fair market value and get a coach that is worth 100%
or
> >more of what you paid. Another reason for the appraisal is if by
> >chance you are able to find the once in the lifetime bargain you
> >would want to insure your coach for it's true replacement value.
A
> >200K dollar coach bought for a 100K and insured for 100K then
written
> >off as a total lose, the insurance company will not pay the
> >difference in value, so get it insured for the full value, the
only
> >way to do this is with a certified appraisal.
> >Financing: DON'T do it! Can't write a check wait until you can. A
> >loan payment on a Bird is no fun when you don't have the money to
buy
> >fuel for the fun trips or the extra cash to make upgrades and
repairs
> >when needed.
> >Last thing you should know about Bluebirds, it is at times easier
&
> >quicker to get a divorce then it is to sell a Bluebird, so know
what
> >you are getting into and be prepared to make the commitment
because
> >it is most of the time for the long haul. Good luck & happy
hunting.
> >John 88FC35 Louisville, KY/Jeffersonville, IN
>
> --
>
> Fraternal Regards,
>
> Peter T. Arnold
>
> Worthy Patron, Temple Chapter #53 {3rd Time}
>
> Hartford Evergreen Lodge #88 Past Master
> Meets on 1st and 3rd Mondays
>
> Washington Lodge #70, Past Master 1997
> 2nd and 4th Monday
>
> Yahoo 6th District B.L.C. Newsgroup Co-Moderator
>
> Past A.G.M., Masonic District 6B
> Grand Lodge of Connecticut A.F. & A.M.
>
> As you can see, I'm busy on Mondays!
>
Want to buy Bluebird - Gregory OConnor - 11-22-2007 17:06
Financing is the way bankers pay cash for their motorhomes.
Good reasons to finance are sales pitches
GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomoland
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@...>
wrote:
>
> I want to echo that, financing is not all bad, although I would
> advise against financing 100% of the cost and keep the term short.
>
> Scott Forman
> 86 PT38
> Memphis
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Peter T. Arnold
> >
> > Great write-up.
> >
> > I do not completely agree with "Don't finance it" Lot's of
reasons
> in
> > my life to leave the capitol invested and take the tax advantage
of
> > long tern financing.
> >
> > YMMV
> >
> > Pete
> >
> > On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:36:53 -0000, you wrote:
> >
> > >Once upon a time... Buying a Wanderlodge is a lot like buying
> your
> > >first home. First only look at Birds within your means, if
you're
> on
> > >a beer budget don't pull out the Champagne glasses. There are a
> lot
> > >of similarities with the two purchases. Don't even look at
birds
> out
> > >of your budget range, by doing so will only lead to
> disapointment.
> > >Next you would not buy a home without a home inspection, so you
> > >should get a Pre-Delivery Inspection on your potential Bird.
Find
> > >someone in your area or the area of the bird who is knowledgable
> on
> > >that particular coach and hire them to go over the systems with
> you.
> > >This will let you know what works, and what needs repairs or
> > >replacement, and a PDI is a great negoiaging tool and you have
> > >leverage when it comes to writing the check. Another issue; you
> > >would not buy a house without an appraisal, nor would a lender
> loan
> > >money on a home without a certified appraisal, so get a
certified
> > >appraisal on any potential purchase. A PDI & an appraisal are
not
> > >the same thing they serve two differnt purposes. Do not rely on
> NADA
> > >or Ebay as reliable sources of value, nor the past sells by
> desperate
> > >sellers. None of these are true representations of real value.
> NADA
> > >may have had only one subject sold in the last quarter and that
> coach
> > >could be the best coach on the worst day of public auction with
no
> > >competitive bidders. That is not a true representation of
value,
> you
> > >want to pay a fair market value and get a coach that is worth
100%
> or
> > >more of what you paid. Another reason for the appraisal is if
by
> > >chance you are able to find the once in the lifetime bargain you
> > >would want to insure your coach for it's true replacement
value.
> A
> > >200K dollar coach bought for a 100K and insured for 100K then
> written
> > >off as a total lose, the insurance company will not pay the
> > >difference in value, so get it insured for the full value, the
> only
> > >way to do this is with a certified appraisal.
> > >Financing: DON'T do it! Can't write a check wait until you can.
A
> > >loan payment on a Bird is no fun when you don't have the money
to
> buy
> > >fuel for the fun trips or the extra cash to make upgrades and
> repairs
> > >when needed.
> > >Last thing you should know about Bluebirds, it is at times
easier
> &
> > >quicker to get a divorce then it is to sell a Bluebird, so know
> what
> > >you are getting into and be prepared to make the commitment
> because
> > >it is most of the time for the long haul. Good luck & happy
> hunting.
> > >John 88FC35 Louisville, KY/Jeffersonville, IN
> >
> > --
> >
> > Fraternal Regards,
> >
> > Peter T. Arnold
> >
> > Worthy Patron, Temple Chapter #53 {3rd Time}
> >
> > Hartford Evergreen Lodge #88 Past Master
> > Meets on 1st and 3rd Mondays
> >
> > Washington Lodge #70, Past Master 1997
> > 2nd and 4th Monday
> >
> > Yahoo 6th District B.L.C. Newsgroup Co-Moderator
> >
> > Past A.G.M., Masonic District 6B
> > Grand Lodge of Connecticut A.F. & A.M.
> >
> > As you can see, I'm busy on Mondays!
> >
>