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Experience w/ B20 Bio-diesel in 8V92 - ronmarabito2002 - 05-11-2008 06:31 Anyone in the group have experience with B20 Bio-diesel in a 8V92? Like to have some input, such as filter clogging, mileage and power changes, current cost, etc. R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 Experience w/ B20 Bio-diesel in 8V92 - Mike Hohnstein - 05-11-2008 08:50 Rule of thumb, have fuel filters on board and be efficient at changing them. Bio likes to stir things up. It's a good idea to have all teflon lined flex fuel lines too. Bio likes to wax up around 50 degrees too, not for winter use.
MH
Experience w/ B20 Bio-diesel in 8V92 - Al - 05-11-2008 09:43 B20 will give the similiar performance as petro diesel. I run B100 year round and don't have waxing problems. Of course, when it gets down to 30 degrees or less, I go to about B90. With that said, I do live in the deep South and we only have a day or two of cold weather. If I lived in the north, I would drop my percentage more to insure I had no problem. Easiest way to see, is to keep a pint jar of your B20 in a unheated bay and that way you can tell at a glance what is going on with your fuel. B20 mixture will start to wax or gel at a slightly higher temp then straight petro. The biggest word of advice, is try to maintain percentage so that you are not shrinking and expanding your seals. Also 1% biodiesel will increase the lubrication of your motor by 30% so no more additives are needed. Al Johnson '96 BMC B100 Mandeville, Louisiana --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein" <MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote: > > Rule of thumb, have fuel filters on board and be efficient at changing them. Bio likes to stir things up. It's a good idea to have all teflon lined flex fuel lines too. Bio likes to wax up around 50 degrees too, not for winter use. > MH > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ronmarabito2002 > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 1:31 PM > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Experience w/ B20 Bio-diesel in 8V92 > > > Anyone in the group have experience with B20 Bio-diesel in a 8V92? > > Like to have some input, such as filter clogging, mileage and power > changes, current cost, etc. > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > Experience w/ B20 Bio-diesel in 8V92 - ronmarabito2002 - 05-11-2008 12:11 Thanks Mike. The website that I visited on Bio seem to indicate that fuel lines for B20 were not a problem, but was over that mix. R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein" <MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote: > > Rule of thumb, have fuel filters on board and be efficient at changing them. Bio likes to stir things up. It's a good idea to have all teflon lined flex fuel lines too. Bio likes to wax up around 50 degrees too, not for winter use. > MH > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ronmarabito2002 > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 1:31 PM > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Experience w/ B20 Bio-diesel in 8V92 > > > Anyone in the group have experience with B20 Bio-diesel in a 8V92? > > Like to have some input, such as filter clogging, mileage and power > changes, current cost, etc. > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > Experience w/ B20 Bio-diesel in 8V92 - ronmarabito2002 - 05-11-2008 12:18 What is your experience with the fuel lines? Any reason to change with a B20 mix? I know that you produce your own. What's the going price at retail outlets? R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Al" > > B20 will give the similiar performance as petro diesel. I run B100 > year round and don't have waxing problems. Of course, when it gets > down to 30 degrees or less, I go to about B90. With that said, I do > live in the deep South and we only have a day or two of cold > weather. If I lived in the north, I would drop my percentage more to > insure I had no problem. Easiest way to see, is to keep a pint jar > of your B20 in a unheated bay and that way you can tell at a glance > what is going on with your fuel. B20 mixture will start to wax or > gel at a slightly higher temp then straight petro. The biggest word > of advice, is try to maintain percentage so that you are not > shrinking and expanding your seals. Also 1% biodiesel will increase > the lubrication of your motor by 30% so no more additives are needed. > > Al Johnson > '96 BMC B100 > Mandeville, Louisiana > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein" > <MHOHNSTEIN@> wrote: > > > > Rule of thumb, have fuel filters on board and be efficient at > changing them. Bio likes to stir things up. It's a good idea to > have all teflon lined flex fuel lines too. Bio likes to wax up > around 50 degrees too, not for winter use. > > MH > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: ronmarabito2002 > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 1:31 PM > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Experience w/ B20 Bio-diesel in 8V92 > > > > > > Anyone in the group have experience with B20 Bio-diesel in a 8V92? > > > > Like to have some input, such as filter clogging, mileage and > power > > changes, current cost, etc. > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > Experience w/ B20 Bio-diesel in 8V92 - Al - 05-11-2008 12:29 Fuel lines will start to weep slowly till they have to be replaced. I was told my fuel lines were not fuel lines but instead water lines. Did not have to replace main engine line ( cummins to fuel tank ). Had to replace line from generator and aquahot to fuel tank. I am running B100 so the lines will fail faster till they are replaced with todays fuel line. I would expect the B20 blend to make your lines fail as well but take a longer period of time. Your the cutover to viton fuel lines started around 1993. So I would tell you to expect the replacement possibility but it will not fail overnight. You will get plenty of notice before failure of the fuel line. As far as retail price, Biodiesel will compete with Petro Diesel but don't expect it to be much lower than. In most cases, it is a premium to Petro Diesel. Al Johnson '96 BMC B100 Mandeville, Louisiana --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002" > > What is your experience with the fuel lines? Any reason to change > with a B20 mix? > > I know that you produce your own. What's the going price at retail > outlets? > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Al" > > > > B20 will give the similiar performance as petro diesel. I run B100 > > year round and don't have waxing problems. Of course, when it gets > > down to 30 degrees or less, I go to about B90. With that said, I do > > live in the deep South and we only have a day or two of cold > > weather. If I lived in the north, I would drop my percentage more to > > insure I had no problem. Easiest way to see, is to keep a pint jar > > of your B20 in a unheated bay and that way you can tell at a glance > > what is going on with your fuel. B20 mixture will start to wax or > > gel at a slightly higher temp then straight petro. The biggest word > > of advice, is try to maintain percentage so that you are not > > shrinking and expanding your seals. Also 1% biodiesel will increase > > the lubrication of your motor by 30% so no more additives are needed. > > > > Al Johnson > > '96 BMC B100 > > Mandeville, Louisiana > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein" > > <MHOHNSTEIN@> wrote: > > > > > > Rule of thumb, have fuel filters on board and be efficient at > > changing them. Bio likes to stir things up. It's a good idea to > > have all teflon lined flex fuel lines too. Bio likes to wax up > > around 50 degrees too, not for winter use. > > > MH > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: ronmarabito2002 > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 1:31 PM > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Experience w/ B20 Bio-diesel in 8V92 > > > > > > > > > Anyone in the group have experience with B20 Bio-diesel in a 8V92? > > > > > > Like to have some input, such as filter clogging, mileage and > > power > > > changes, current cost, etc. > > > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > > > > Experience w/ B20 Bio-diesel in 8V92 - ronmarabito2002 - 05-11-2008 13:39 Thanks Al. R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Al" > > Fuel lines will start to weep slowly till they have to be replaced. > I was told my fuel lines were not fuel lines but instead water > lines. Did not have to replace main engine line ( cummins to fuel > tank ). Had to replace line from generator and aquahot to fuel > tank. I am running B100 so the lines will fail faster till they are > replaced with todays fuel line. I would expect the B20 blend to make > your lines fail as well but take a longer period of time. Your the > cutover to viton fuel lines started around 1993. So I would tell you > to expect the replacement possibility but it will not fail > overnight. You will get plenty of notice before failure of the fuel > line. As far as retail price, Biodiesel will compete with Petro > Diesel but don't expect it to be much lower than. In most cases, it > is a premium to Petro Diesel. > > Al Johnson > '96 BMC B100 > Mandeville, Louisiana > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002" > > > > > What is your experience with the fuel lines? Any reason to change > > with a B20 mix? > > > > I know that you produce your own. What's the going price at retail > > outlets? > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Al" > > > > > > B20 will give the similiar performance as petro diesel. I run > B100 > > > year round and don't have waxing problems. Of course, when it > gets > > > down to 30 degrees or less, I go to about B90. With that said, I > do > > > live in the deep South and we only have a day or two of cold > > > weather. If I lived in the north, I would drop my percentage > more to > > > insure I had no problem. Easiest way to see, is to keep a pint > jar > > > of your B20 in a unheated bay and that way you can tell at a > glance > > > what is going on with your fuel. B20 mixture will start to wax > or > > > gel at a slightly higher temp then straight petro. The biggest > word > > > of advice, is try to maintain percentage so that you are not > > > shrinking and expanding your seals. Also 1% biodiesel will > increase > > > the lubrication of your motor by 30% so no more additives are > needed. > > > > > > Al Johnson > > > '96 BMC B100 > > > Mandeville, Louisiana > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein" > > > <MHOHNSTEIN@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Rule of thumb, have fuel filters on board and be efficient at > > > changing them. Bio likes to stir things up. It's a good idea to > > > have all teflon lined flex fuel lines too. Bio likes to wax up > > > around 50 degrees too, not for winter use. > > > > MH > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: ronmarabito2002 > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 1:31 PM > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Experience w/ B20 Bio-diesel in > 8V92 > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone in the group have experience with B20 Bio-diesel in a > 8V92? > > > > > > > > Like to have some input, such as filter clogging, mileage and > > > power > > > > changes, current cost, etc. > > > > > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > > > > > > > > |