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Suspension dump light won't go out - mbulriss - 11-08-2008 05:50

OK, the title sums it up: the suspension dump light on the dash does
not go out. Always seemed a little slow going off after the tag axle
aired up, but now it just stays on.

All suspension air bags *are* fully aired up. Checked the Clippard
valves in the front load center on advice from Ralph - no leaks found.
Crawled around under the rear listening for air leaks and checking
the air bags. No leaks heard, but of course that for sure doesn't
mean there aren't any, based on older ears!

Any ideas on what to check next?

Thanks,
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX


Suspension dump light won't go out - Kurt Horvath - 11-08-2008 05:53

Mike,

Did you cycle the system several times?

Kurt
Horvath
95 PT 42
10AC


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...>
wrote:
>
> OK, the title sums it up: the suspension dump light on the dash does
> not go out. Always seemed a little slow going off after the tag
axle
> aired up, but now it just stays on.
>
> All suspension air bags *are* fully aired up. Checked the Clippard
> valves in the front load center on advice from Ralph - no leaks
found.
> Crawled around under the rear listening for air leaks and checking
> the air bags. No leaks heard, but of course that for sure doesn't
> mean there aren't any, based on older ears!
>
> Any ideas on what to check next?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>


Suspension dump light won't go out - mbulriss - 11-08-2008 06:05

Kurt,

Yes, I have cycled it several times.

Also, after finding all bags up, we went out for the weekend and drove
around looking for bumps after remembering a couple old posts on that.
After about 50 miles it finally went out. On the way back from the
weekend, it never went out over the 100 mile trip. It does not go out
at all any more. I was thinking there is a sensor/air valve somewhere
that is stuck, sticking, gunked up?

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt Horvath" wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> Did you cycle the system several times?
>
> Kurt
> Horvath
> 95 PT 42
> 10AC
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> wrote:
> >
> > OK, the title sums it up: the suspension dump light on the dash does
> > not go out. Always seemed a little slow going off after the tag
> axle
> > aired up, but now it just stays on.
> >
> > All suspension air bags *are* fully aired up. Checked the Clippard
> > valves in the front load center on advice from Ralph - no leaks
> found.
> > Crawled around under the rear listening for air leaks and checking
> > the air bags. No leaks heard, but of course that for sure doesn't
> > mean there aren't any, based on older ears!
> >
> > Any ideas on what to check next?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
>


Suspension dump light won't go out - Rob Robinson - 11-08-2008 07:06

I think your problem is a pressure switch failure. Why would you think an air leak would cause your condition??


2008/11/8 mbulriss <"mbulriss@yahoo.com">



Kurt,

Yes, I have cycled it several times.

Also, after finding all bags up, we went out for the weekend and drove
around looking for bumps after remembering a couple old posts on that.
After about 50 miles it finally went out. On the way back from the

weekend, it never went out over the 100 mile trip. It does not go out
at all any more. I was thinking there is a sensor/air valve somewhere
that is stuck, sticking, gunked up?

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Kurt Horvath" wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> Did you cycle the system several times?

>
> Kurt
> Horvath
> 95 PT 42
> 10AC
>
>
> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>

> wrote:
> >
> > OK, the title sums it up: the suspension dump light on the dash does
> > not go out. Always seemed a little slow going off after the tag
> axle
> > aired up, but now it just stays on.

> >
> > All suspension air bags *are* fully aired up. Checked the Clippard
> > valves in the front load center on advice from Ralph - no leaks
> found.
> > Crawled around under the rear listening for air leaks and checking

> > the air bags. No leaks heard, but of course that for sure doesn't
> > mean there aren't any, based on older ears!
> >
> > Any ideas on what to check next?
> >
> > Thanks,

> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
>





--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson

94 WLWB


Suspension dump light won't go out - erniecarpet@... - 11-08-2008 07:37



Mike, my old coach will do the same thing. I wonder if in that switch that controls the light, maybe some electrolysis may be occurring?
Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Weatherford, Texas






Suspension dump light won't go out - mbulriss - 11-08-2008 07:52

Thanks Rob,

> I think your problem is a pressure switch failure.
Can you point me to where is that located?

> Why would you think an air leak would cause your condition??
Mainly because the rear suspension lost pressure after about 30-45
minutes while I was washing bugs off the front end.

Open to any more ideas......


Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson"
wrote:
>
> I think your problem is a pressure switch failure. Why would you
think an
> air leak would cause your condition??
>
> 2008/11/8 mbulriss <mbulriss@...>
>
> > Kurt,
> >
> > Yes, I have cycled it several times.
> >
> > Also, after finding all bags up, we went out for the weekend and drove
> > around looking for bumps after remembering a couple old posts on that.
> > After about 50 miles it finally went out. On the way back from the
> > weekend, it never went out over the 100 mile trip. It does not go out
> > at all any more. I was thinking there is a sensor/air valve somewhere
> > that is stuck, sticking, gunked up?
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
> > --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> > "Kurt Horvath" wrote:
> > >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > Did you cycle the system several times?
> > >
> > > Kurt
> > > Horvath
> > > 95 PT 42
> > > 10AC
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> > "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > OK, the title sums it up: the suspension dump light on the
dash does
> > > > not go out. Always seemed a little slow going off after the tag
> > > axle
> > > > aired up, but now it just stays on.
> > > >
> > > > All suspension air bags *are* fully aired up. Checked the Clippard
> > > > valves in the front load center on advice from Ralph - no leaks
> > > found.
> > > > Crawled around under the rear listening for air leaks and checking
> > > > the air bags. No leaks heard, but of course that for sure doesn't
> > > > mean there aren't any, based on older ears!
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas on what to check next?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> 94 WLWB
>


Suspension dump light won't go out - Gregory OConnor - 11-08-2008 08:03

light is powered off a timed 60 second relay. K38. ig powered.
tripped by a 30#pressure switch K38 no buzzer. ( if the same as a
94pt)since ig powered it should go out with key off. there must be
a diode between the tag and suspension dash switch or tripped relays
that I need to find because I cant drop tag only and when I drop
suspension the tag runs up to 100# plus so I always drop tag and
main . the fuse that powers the relay for the suspension also does
the backup lights. I hate having toad functions mixed anyplace in
the formula.
Greg
94ptCa
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...>
wrote:
>
> OK, the title sums it up: the suspension dump light on the dash
does
> not go out. Always seemed a little slow going off after the tag
axle
> aired up, but now it just stays on.
>
> All suspension air bags *are* fully aired up. Checked the Clippard
> valves in the front load center on advice from Ralph - no leaks
found.
> Crawled around under the rear listening for air leaks and checking
> the air bags. No leaks heard, but of course that for sure doesn't
> mean there aren't any, based on older ears!
>
> Any ideas on what to check next?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>


Suspension dump light won't go out - Gregory OConnor - 11-08-2008 08:13

two switches front and rear. I'm in KY digging a hole. but had
access to some pdf. must be aft the dump valves, follow the
hissing. may be one of those fixes that require a pit or jacks.
wouldnt want to tug on a pressure swithch holding up wiggle out room.
Greg--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss"
<mbulriss@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Rob,
>
> > I think your problem is a pressure switch failure.
> Can you point me to where is that located?
>
> > Why would you think an air leak would cause your condition??
> Mainly because the rear suspension lost pressure after about 30-45
> minutes while I was washing bugs off the front end.
>
> Open to any more ideas......
>
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson"
> wrote:
> >
> > I think your problem is a pressure switch failure. Why would you
> think an
> > air leak would cause your condition??
> >
> > 2008/11/8 mbulriss <mbulriss@>
> >
> > > Kurt,
> > >
> > > Yes, I have cycled it several times.
> > >
> > > Also, after finding all bags up, we went out for the weekend
and drove
> > > around looking for bumps after remembering a couple old posts
on that.
> > > After about 50 miles it finally went out. On the way back from
the
> > > weekend, it never went out over the 100 mile trip. It does not
go out
> > > at all any more. I was thinking there is a sensor/air valve
somewhere
> > > that is stuck, sticking, gunked up?
> > >
> > > Mike Bulriss
> > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > > San Antonio, TX
> > >
> > > --- In
> WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "Kurt Horvath" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mike,
> > > >
> > > > Did you cycle the system several times?
> > > >
> > > > Kurt
> > > > Horvath
> > > > 95 PT 42
> > > > 10AC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In
> WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, the title sums it up: the suspension dump light on the
> dash does
> > > > > not go out. Always seemed a little slow going off after
the tag
> > > > axle
> > > > > aired up, but now it just stays on.
> > > > >
> > > > > All suspension air bags *are* fully aired up. Checked the
Clippard
> > > > > valves in the front load center on advice from Ralph - no
leaks
> > > > found.
> > > > > Crawled around under the rear listening for air leaks and
checking
> > > > > the air bags. No leaks heard, but of course that for sure
doesn't
> > > > > mean there aren't any, based on older ears!
> > > > >
> > > > > Any ideas on what to check next?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > 94 WLWB
> >
>


Suspension dump light won't go out - mbulriss - 11-08-2008 09:29

> light is powered off a timed 60 second relay.
Ahhh, that explains why the light always seemed slow in going out
after the tag was filled.

> since ig powered it should go out with key off.
It does.

Time to check my prints and look around K38 if the same as 91, but I
kind of doubt it.

Thanks,

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> light is powered off a timed 60 second relay. K38. ig powered.
> tripped by a 30#pressure switch K38 no buzzer. ( if the same as a
> 94pt)since ig powered it should go out with key off. there must be
> a diode between the tag and suspension dash switch or tripped relays
> that I need to find because I cant drop tag only and when I drop
> suspension the tag runs up to 100# plus so I always drop tag and
> main . the fuse that powers the relay for the suspension also does
> the backup lights. I hate having toad functions mixed anyplace in
> the formula.
> Greg
> 94ptCa
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> wrote:
> >
> > OK, the title sums it up: the suspension dump light on the dash
> does
> > not go out. Always seemed a little slow going off after the tag
> axle
> > aired up, but now it just stays on.
> >
> > All suspension air bags *are* fully aired up. Checked the Clippard
> > valves in the front load center on advice from Ralph - no leaks
> found.
> > Crawled around under the rear listening for air leaks and checking
> > the air bags. No leaks heard, but of course that for sure doesn't
> > mean there aren't any, based on older ears!
> >
> > Any ideas on what to check next?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
>


Suspension dump light won't go out - jim riordan - 11-08-2008 13:27

Mike,
Just had a simmilar problem. There are three pressure switches on my coach, that activate that light. I found after trouble shhoting that the tag axle pressure switch was bad. We did the trouble shooting by disconnecting the leads to the switch. high up middle of coach near tag. it was a pain but we got it figured out. BB had the parts
jim riordan
88WBWL XXV
stuart, fl.

mbulriss <mbulriss@...> wrote:
OK, the title sums it up: the
suspension dump light on the dash does
not go out. Always seemed a little slow going off after the tag axle
aired up, but now it just stays on.

All suspension air bags *are* fully aired up. Checked the Clippard
valves in the front load center on advice from Ralph - no leaks found.
Crawled around under the rear listening for air leaks and checking
the air bags. No leaks heard, but of course that for sure doesn't
mean there aren't any, based on older ears!

Any ideas on what to check next?

Thanks,
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX