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Stalling 80BB = Racor Questions!!!! ????? - racin41@... - 06-01-2005 20:52
John,
You can order Racor parts through a Parker Store. The store located in
Roanoke does not stock parts for the FG900/1000 but has access
to whatever I need. Usually takes a couple of weeks although I'm sure you
can get quicker delivery if you are willing to pay the price.
Bill & Rita in Roanoke, VA (lots of rain)
1987 FC-35
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Stalling 80BB = Racor Questions!!!! ????? - Adria Haynes - 06-01-2005 23:55
Gang,
I pulled the Racor last night after the following events. I again
removed the "in" line to it and opened up the valve at the bottom. I
put the rubber tip air chuck into the "IN" side and gave it a quick
shot of air and the air only seemed to want to come back at me. I
then removed the "OUT" line and secondary filter and stuck a can under
the secondary fuel filter adapter. I blew into the out line and heard
it push the fuel through the line and into the can. I then also
pushed air into the "OUT" side of the Racor and it LAUNCHED fuel out
the drain valve until it was empty. After the fuel ran out, sludge
started to drain.
Having the air do "something" when pushed through the "out" side but
not the "in" side told me something was screwy.
So I tore it all apart and found the inside of the Racor to be pretty
full of black sludge. The rubber washer underneath that ball on that
screw on part seemed pretty weak. After giving everything a big
cleaning and partial reassembly - I shot air back into the "IN" side
and could only feel flow through some of the air veins at the bottom
of that plastic piece. Unscrewing it showed that the ball had
partially collapsed the rubber washer down into the inside - closing
off the other half. I set it up again - blew air in again - and got
NOTHING the second time. Unscrewing it showed that the ball had
seated the washer evenly, but actually gotten pushed down so far into
the washer that the ID of the washer got kind of stuck around the
ball.
Also, it looks like something in the bowl had caused it to become
hot. One of the wire leads that plugs through the side of the Racor
has distorted the plastic so bad that it couldn't be removed from the
side wall and the wire that belonged to it just kind of pulled out
with very little effort. Upon dissassembly, there is also that
plastic "bowl" shaped device that looks to create a swirl in the
flow. It also is severly distorted from what looks to be too much
heat. Call me crazy, but I would prefer my fuel not to get so hot
that it melts plastic inside of it and around it.
This leads me to a few questions:
Can I just get the specific Racor parts that I need or do I have to
buy a whole new unit?
Is it important that these heating elements and 5 wire setup be
plugged back in or can I live without them?
What all do they do that is so critical and why is there FIVE wires?
Would that weakened washer alone cause the fuel to stop flowing or did
it just appear weak because I subjected it to a much higher pressure
with air than it would ever see from fuel?
Hopefully, this will get me enough info in retun to continue my being
overwhelmed.
Thanks again in advance gang,
John in Flint
Stalling 80BB = Racor Questions!!!! ????? - John Stiles - 06-02-2005 00:16
You can buy rebuild parts for the Racor. I replaced the bowl on
mine about 4-5 years ago. Unfortunatly I don't recall where I
bought it although I do remember that I had found a dealer that
carries/services Racor and ordered through them. I think I may have
found them through the Racor web site.
Hope this helps,
John Stiles
1980 33FC
"My Navion"
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Adria Haynes"
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Stalling 80BB = Racor Questions!!!! ????? - Tom Warner - 06-02-2005 00:32
West marine has the parts.
Tom1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY
At 12:16 PM 6/2/2005 +0000, you wrote:
>You can buy rebuild parts for the Racor. I replaced the bowl on
>mine about 4-5 years ago. Unfortunatly I don't recall where I
>bought it although I do remember that I had found a dealer that
>carries/services Racor and ordered through them. I think I may have
>found them through the Racor web site.
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>John Stiles
>1980 33FC
>"My Navion"
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>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Adria Haynes"
><mrbeebody@n...> wrote:
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Stalling 80BB = Racor Questions!!!! ????? - fred89sp - 06-02-2005 02:38
I have been following this thread and will comment on what little I know.
On the old site I posted some information on replacement of the old
see-thru bowl with four pins (two for the water sensor probe and two
for the heater), with the two pin bowl currently available. If you
can find it or if someone can point you to it you may find it relevant.
The heater is essential at low temperature (20 or less?), you should
eventually replace it. Sounds as if the integral thermostat did not
shut off and cooked the internal components.
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Adria Haynes"
<mrbeebody@n...> wrote:
> Gang,
>
> I pulled the Racor last night after the following events. I again
> removed the "in" line to it and opened up the valve at the bottom. I
> put the rubber tip air chuck into the "IN" side and gave it a quick
> shot of air and the air only seemed to want to come back at me. I
> then removed the "OUT" line and secondary filter and stuck a can under
> the secondary fuel filter adapter. I blew into the out line and heard
> it push the fuel through the line and into the can. I then also
> pushed air into the "OUT" side of the Racor and it LAUNCHED fuel out
> the drain valve until it was empty. After the fuel ran out, sludge
> started to drain.
>
> Having the air do "something" when pushed through the "out" side but
> not the "in" side told me something was screwy.
>
> So I tore it all apart and found the inside of the Racor to be pretty
> full of black sludge. The rubber washer underneath that ball on that
> screw on part seemed pretty weak. After giving everything a big
> cleaning and partial reassembly - I shot air back into the "IN" side
> and could only feel flow through some of the air veins at the bottom
> of that plastic piece. Unscrewing it showed that the ball had
> partially collapsed the rubber washer down into the inside - closing
> off the other half. I set it up again - blew air in again - and got
> NOTHING the second time. Unscrewing it showed that the ball had
> seated the washer evenly, but actually gotten pushed down so far into
> the washer that the ID of the washer got kind of stuck around the
> ball.
>
> Also, it looks like something in the bowl had caused it to become
> hot. One of the wire leads that plugs through the side of the Racor
> has distorted the plastic so bad that it couldn't be removed from the
> side wall and the wire that belonged to it just kind of pulled out
> with very little effort. Upon dissassembly, there is also that
> plastic "bowl" shaped device that looks to create a swirl in the
> flow. It also is severly distorted from what looks to be too much
> heat. Call me crazy, but I would prefer my fuel not to get so hot
> that it melts plastic inside of it and around it.
>
> This leads me to a few questions:
>
> Can I just get the specific Racor parts that I need or do I have to
> buy a whole new unit?
>
> Is it important that these heating elements and 5 wire setup be
> plugged back in or can I live without them?
>
> What all do they do that is so critical and why is there FIVE wires?
>
> Would that weakened washer alone cause the fuel to stop flowing or did
> it just appear weak because I subjected it to a much higher pressure
> with air than it would ever see from fuel?
>
> Hopefully, this will get me enough info in retun to continue my being
> overwhelmed.
>
> Thanks again in advance gang,
>
> John in Flint