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Airbags, dry-rot - Henry Jay Hannigan - 02-27-2009 12:12

my 90SP airbags are fine so far......I guess air bags are like a
roof.....when do u change roofing.....when it leaks...probably same
with the air bags.
slow day here.
Regards,
Hank
90SP36

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Juergen"
wrote:
>
> David
> I have 1991 WLSP 36 which I bought in 1995 used. 20000 miles on it.
I
> just replaced the front airbags last fall, I finally got the rear
> airbags ready to go in this spring.
> I had no trouble with the bags, but figured they were OLD. I
examined
> the old front ones and they were cracked all along the edges. Yet
they
> worked perfectly. Therefore I cannot answer you question about how
old
> or how long you can use an airbag safely. Mine are 19 years old and
> still working, but I figured that it might be wise to change them
now.
> So, if yours still work, but you want to be absolutely safe, change
> them. And do NOT buy them from BB or their schoolbus division. CCC
> Truckparts have bags for coaches at 1/3 the cost of BB.
> I bought 1 from BB for $450 bucks (for a correct pattern) and the
> other 3 from CCC for $531.00 (BB wanted even more).
> Juergen in PA
> 1991 WLSP 36
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, david brady
wrote:
> >
> > I was inspecting the coach the other day and noticed
> > that all my airbags are checked and cracked, similar
> > to the appearance of a dry-rotted tire. The bags are
> > 7.5 years old. Anyone have a feel for how long bags
> > should last, and how severely checked they can become
> > before replacement is necessary? I have visions of
> > installing new bags only to find the same checking one
> > year from now.
> >
> > (Planning a cross country trip and want to be prepared).
> >
> > David Brady
> > '02 LXi, NC
> >
>


Airbags, dry-rot - david brady - 02-27-2009 12:33


Thanks everyone for your airspring input. For the time being

I'm going to carry a few spares, but will replace everything once

we return from the west coast.



David Brady

'02 LXi, NC



Henry Jay Hannigan wrote:




my 90SP airbags are fine so far......I guess air bags are like a

roof.....when do u change roofing.....when it leaks...probably
same

with the air bags.

slow day here.

Regards,

Hank

90SP36



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
"Juergen"

...> wrote:

>

> David

> I have 1991 WLSP 36 which I bought in 1995 used. 20000 miles on
it.

I

> just replaced the front airbags last fall, I finally got the rear

> airbags ready to go in this spring.

> I had no trouble with the bags, but figured they were OLD. I

examined

> the old front ones and they were cracked all along the edges. Yet

they

> worked perfectly. Therefore I cannot answer you question about how


old

> or how long you can use an airbag safely. Mine are 19 years old and

> still working, but I figured that it might be wise to change them

now.

> So, if yours still work, but you want to be absolutely safe, change

> them. And do NOT buy them from BB or their schoolbus division. CCC

> Truckparts have bags for coaches at 1/3 the cost of BB.

> I bought 1 from BB for $450 bucks (for a correct pattern) and the

> other 3 from CCC for $531.00 (BB wanted even more).

> Juergen in PA

> 1991 WLSP 36

>

> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
david brady

wrote:

> >

> > I was inspecting the coach the other day and noticed

> > that all my airbags are checked and cracked, similar

> > to the appearance of a dry-rotted tire. The bags are

> > 7.5 years old. Anyone have a feel for how long bags

> > should last, and how severely checked they can become

> > before replacement is necessary? I have visions of

> > installing new bags only to find the same checking one

> > year from now.

> >

> > (Planning a cross country trip and want to be prepared).

> >

> > David Brady

> > '02 LXi, NC

> >

>





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Airbags, dry-rot - Ernie Ekberg - 02-27-2009 13:39

David- if you happen to be coming down I-20, we are 4 miles north of that with a complete full service campground, plumbing supplies, tanning booths, check cashing facility, and we tote the note on used vehicles. tongue firmly in cheek~
but we have space for a few birds here

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Wanderlodge
Weatherford, Tx

--- On Fri, 2/27/09, david brady wrote:

From: david brady
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Airbags, dry-rot
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 6:33 PM


Thanks everyone for your airspring input. For the time being
I'm going to carry a few spares, but will replace everything once
we return from the west coast.

David Brady
'02 LXi, NC

Henry Jay Hannigan wrote:
my 90SP airbags are fine so far......I guess air bags are like a
roof.....when do u change roofing..... when it leaks...probably same
with the air bags.
slow day here.
Regards,
Hank
90SP36

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Juergen"
wrote:
>
> David
> I have 1991 WLSP 36 which I bought in 1995 used. 20000 miles on it.
I
> just replaced the front airbags last fall, I finally got the rear
> airbags ready to go in this spring.
> I had no trouble with the bags, but figured they were OLD. I
examined
> the old front ones and they were cracked all along the edges. Yet
they
> worked perfectly. Therefore I cannot answer you question about how
old
> or how long you can use an airbag safely. Mine are 19 years old and
> still
working, but I figured that it might be wise to change them
now.
> So, if yours still work, but you want to be absolutely safe, change
> them. And do NOT buy them from BB or their schoolbus division. CCC
> Truckparts have bags for coaches at 1/3 the cost of BB.
> I bought 1 from BB for $450 bucks (for a correct pattern) and the
> other 3 from CCC for $531.00 (BB wanted even more).
> Juergen in PA
> 1991 WLSP 36
>
> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", david brady
wrote:
> >
> > I was inspecting the coach the other day and noticed
> > that all my airbags are checked and cracked, similar
> > to the appearance of a dry-rotted tire. The bags are
> > 7.5 years old. Anyone have a feel for how long bags
> > should last, and how severely
checked they can become
> > before replacement is necessary? I have visions of
> > installing new bags only to find the same checking one
> > year from now.
> >
> > (Planning a cross country trip and want to be prepared).
> >
> > David Brady
> > '02 LXi, NC
> >
>


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Airbags, dry-rot - Dan and Cindy Sunderland - 02-27-2009 15:04

Hi all

I am posting as an X owner of an 86PT40. When I owned this bird I had the same
concerns. Little cracks here and there. They look a little scary. The best
advice I can give
is for each owner to contact an air bag mfg, such as Goodyear or Firestone and
speak to
the tech help area or ask for an air bag engineer. Once you learn how an air
bag is made
and how many layers it has, your concerns wil change direction. They are very
very hearty
little buggers. They will last beyond your wildest dreams. Try it, you'll like
it.
Carrying one of each type is good for the soul, but that's about all. Basically
they are good
until they start leaking. Damage by debris, it will not matter how old it is.


Dan Sunderland
2005 450LXi
San Marcos, CA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ernie Ekberg wrote:
>
> David- if you happen to be coming down I-20, we are 4 miles north of that with
a
complete full service campground, plumbing supplies, tanning booths, check
cashing
facility, and we tote the note on used vehicles. tongue firmly in cheek~
> but we have space for a few birds here
>
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Wanderlodge
> Weatherford, Tx
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erniesremodelingandrepair
>
> --- On Fri, 2/27/09, david brady wrote:
>
> From: david brady
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Airbags, dry-rot
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 6:33 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks everyone for your airspring input. For the time being
> I'm going to carry a few spares, but will replace everything once
> we return from the west coast.
>
> David Brady
> '02 LXi, NC
>
> Henry Jay Hannigan wrote:
>
>
>
> my 90SP airbags are fine so far......I guess air bags are like a
> roof.....when do u change roofing..... when it leaks...probably same
> with the air bags.
> slow day here.
> Regards,
> Hank
> 90SP36
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Juergen"
> wrote:
> >
> > David
> > I have 1991 WLSP 36 which I bought in 1995 used. 20000 miles on it.
> I
> > just replaced the front airbags last fall, I finally got the rear
> > airbags ready to go in this spring.
> > I had no trouble with the bags, but figured they were OLD. I
> examined
> > the old front ones and they were cracked all along the edges. Yet
> they
> > worked perfectly. Therefore I cannot answer you question about how
> old
> > or how long you can use an airbag safely. Mine are 19 years old and
> > still working, but I figured that it might be wise to change them
> now.
> > So, if yours still work, but you want to be absolutely safe, change
> > them. And do NOT buy them from BB or their schoolbus division. CCC
> > Truckparts have bags for coaches at 1/3 the cost of BB.
> > I bought 1 from BB for $450 bucks (for a correct pattern) and the
> > other 3 from CCC for $531.00 (BB wanted even more).
> > Juergen in PA
> > 1991 WLSP 36
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, david brady
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I was inspecting the coach the other day and noticed
> > > that all my airbags are checked and cracked, similar
> > > to the appearance of a dry-rotted tire. The bags are
> > > 7.5 years old. Anyone have a feel for how long bags
> > > should last, and how severely checked they can become
> > > before replacement is necessary? I have visions of
> > > installing new bags only to find the same checking one
> > > year from now.
> > >
> > > (Planning a cross country trip and want to be prepared).
> > >
> > > David Brady
> > > '02 LXi, NC
> > >
> >
>
>
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Airbags, dry-rot - david brady - 02-27-2009 17:20


Thanks for the invite Ernie. If we come thru that way I'll definitely

look you up. We normally head west on 40, but if the weather

is bad we'll scoot down to 20 (which is a much better road).



David

'02 LXi, NC



Ernie Ekberg wrote:



David- if you happen to be coming down I-20, we are 4
miles north of that with a complete full service campground, plumbing
supplies, tanning booths, check cashing facility, and we tote the note
on used vehicles. tongue firmly in cheek~
but we have space for a few birds here



Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Wanderlodge
Weatherford, Tx




--- On Fri, 2/27/09, david brady net>
wrote:

From:
david brady net>

Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Airbags, dry-rot

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 6:33 PM



Thanks everyone for your airspring input. For the time
being

I'm going to carry a few spares, but will replace everything once

we return from the west coast.



David Brady

'02 LXi, NC



Henry Jay Hannigan wrote:

my 90SP airbags are fine so far......I guess air bags are like a

roof.....when do u change roofing..... when it leaks...probably same

with the air bags.

slow day here.

Regards,

Hank

90SP36



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Juergen"

wrote:

>

> David

> I have 1991 WLSP 36 which I bought in 1995 used. 20000 miles on
it.

I

> just replaced the front airbags last fall, I finally got the rear

> airbags ready to go in this spring.

> I had no trouble with the bags, but figured they were OLD. I

examined

> the old front ones and they were cracked all along the edges. Yet

they

> worked perfectly. Therefore I cannot answer you question about how


old

> or how long you can use an airbag safely. Mine are 19 years old and

> still working, but I figured that it might be wise to change them

now.

> So, if yours still work, but you want to be absolutely safe, change

> them. And do NOT buy them from BB or their schoolbus division. CCC

> Truckparts have bags for coaches at 1/3 the cost of BB.

> I bought 1 from BB for $450 bucks (for a correct pattern) and the

> other 3 from CCC for $531.00 (BB wanted even more).

> Juergen in PA

> 1991 WLSP 36

>

> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", david brady


wrote:

> >

> > I was inspecting the coach the other day and noticed

> > that all my airbags are checked and cracked, similar

> > to the appearance of a dry-rotted tire. The bags are

> > 7.5 years old. Anyone have a feel for how long bags

> > should last, and how severely checked they can become

> > before replacement is necessary? I have visions of

> > installing new bags only to find the same checking one

> > year from now.

> >

> > (Planning a cross country trip and want to be prepared).

> >

> > David Brady

> > '02 LXi, NC

> >

>





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Airbags, dry-rot - Wayne Kotila - 02-28-2009 06:57

David, I have a 1985 PT40 that I have owned for 12 years and the air bags have looked that way as long as I have owned it. When I bought the coach 12 years ago it had about 100,000 miles on it, now it has about 160,000. I am not shure but I wonder if the bags have a thick outer protective layer that we see cracking on the outside and the actual bag sealing the air is a thinner moreplyable rubber on the inside?
Wayne



From: david brady
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 11:37:06 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Airbags, dry-rot




I was inspecting the coach the other day and noticed
that all my airbags are checked and cracked, similar
to the appearance of a dry-rotted tire. The bags are
7.5 years old. Anyone have a feel for how long bags
should last, and how severely checked they can become
before replacement is necessary? I have visions of
installing new bags only to find the same checking one
year from now.

(Planning a cross country trip and want to be prepared).

David Brady
'02 LXi, NC




Airbags, dry-rot - Pete Masterson - 02-28-2009 09:53

I note that I've twice had competent service providers "carefully inspect" the condition of my coach, and neither have indicated any concern about the air bags. They don't look horrible, but do have some checking and cracks on the outside. I take it that it's normal for the age of the bags.
While I have no way of knowing (I'm at least the 3rd owner of this coach), I doubt that any of the POs had the air bags replaced. The immediate PO never mentioned air bags, and the (incomplete) set of receipts he provided don't mention them either.
Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 (For Sale)
El Sobrante CA
"aeonix1@mac.com"



On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Wayne Kotila wrote:

David, I have a 1985 PT40 that I have owned for 12 years and the air bags have looked that way as long as I have owned it. When I bought the coach 12 years ago it had about 100,000 miles on it, now it has about 160,000. I am not shure but I wonder if the bags have a thick outer protective layer that we see cracking on the outside and the actual bag sealing the air is a thinner moreplyable rubber on the inside?
Wayne

From:david brady <"dmb993@earthlink.net">
To:"WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"
Sent:Friday, February 27, 2009 11:37:06 AM
Subject:[WanderlodgeForum] Airbags, dry-rot


I was inspecting the coach the other day and noticed
that all my airbags are checked and cracked, similar
to the appearance of a dry-rotted tire. The bags are
7.5 years old. Anyone have a feel for how long bags
should last, and how severely checked they can become
before replacement is necessary? I have visions of
installing new bags only to find the same checking one
year from now.

(Planning a cross country trip and want to be prepared).

David Brady
'02 LXi, NC




Airbags, dry-rot - david brady - 02-28-2009 10:07


As other's have pointed out, there does appear to be an inner liner

built into today's air springs. I copied this following from
Firestone's

"Airide Design Guide":



"An air spring is a carefully designed rubber and fabric flexible
member

which contains a column of compressed air. The flexible member itself

does not provide force or support load; these functions are performed

by the column of air. Firestone air springs are highly engineered
elastomeric

flexible members with specifically designed metal end closures. The

standard two-ply version is made up of four layers:



(1) Inner Liner. An inner liner of calendered rubber.

(2) Frst Ply. One ply of fabric reinforced rubber with the cords

at a specific bias angle.

(3) Second Ply. A second ply of fabric reinforced rubber with the same
bias

angle laid opposite that of the first ply.

(4) Outer Cover. An outer cover of calendered rubber."



David Brady

'02 LXi, NC





Pete Masterson wrote:


I note that I've twice had competent service providers "carefully
inspect" the condition of my coach, and neither have indicated any
concern about the air bags. They don't look horrible, but do have some
checking and cracks on the outside. I take it that it's normal for the
age of the bags.


While I have no way of knowing (I'm at least the 3rd owner of
this coach), I doubt that any of the POs had the air bags replaced. The
immediate PO never mentioned air bags, and the (incomplete) set of
receipts he provided don't mention them either.



Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 (For Sale)
El Sobrante CA
"aeonix1@mac.com"








On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Wayne Kotila wrote:



David, I have a 1985 PT40 that I have owned for 12 years and
the air bags have looked that way as long as I have owned it. When I
bought the coach 12 years ago it had about 100,000 miles on it, now it
has about 160,000. I am not shure but I wonder if the bags have a thick
outer protective layer that we see cracking on the outside and the
actual bag sealing the air is a thinner moreplyable rubber on the
inside?
Wayne




From:david brady <"dmb993@earthlink.net">

To:"WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"

Sent:Friday, February 27, 2009
11:37:06 AM

Subject:[WanderlodgeForum] Airbags,
dry-rot





I was inspecting the coach the other day and noticed

that all my airbags are checked and cracked, similar

to the appearance of a dry-rotted tire. The bags are

7.5 years old. Anyone have a feel for how long bags

should last, and how severely checked they can become

before replacement is necessary? I have visions of

installing new bags only to find the same checkng one

year from now.



(Planning a cross country trip and want to be prepared).



David Brady

'02 LXi, NC





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Airbags, dry-rot - timvasqz - 02-28-2009 10:40

I dont think the bags on our bus are a bag in a bag its just one bag.
The cover inside and outside are the protective rubber keeping the
chords from the elements. Every rally I attend all you see are old
bags, something should be done. Even the description below is
confusing because ;a fabric is woven and ;bias is orientation at an
angel. if a fabric is situated on a bias , the angle is repeated
every 90deg. how could you arrange the second fabric on an oppisite
angle?

I need to go to a junk yard with a knife and check this out

http://www.airsprings.com.au/Airide_Definitions.cfm

Greg ofTim&Greg


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, david brady
wrote:
>
> As other's have pointed out, there does appear to be an inner liner
> built into today's air springs. I copied this following from
Firestone's
> "Airide Design Guide":
>
> "An air spring is a carefully designed rubber and fabric flexible
member
> which contains a column of compressed air. The flexible member
itself
> does not provide force or support load; these functions are
performed
> by the column of air. Firestone air springs are highly engineered
> elastomeric
> flexible members with specifically designed metal end closures. The
> standard two-ply version is made up of four layers:
>
> (1) Inner Liner. An inner liner of calendered rubber.
> (2) Frst Ply. One ply of fabric reinforced rubber with the cords
> at a specific bias angle.
> (3) Second Ply. A second ply of fabric reinforced rubber with the
same bias
> angle laid opposite that of the first ply.
> (4) Outer Cover. An outer cover of calendered rubber."
>
> David Brady
> '02 LXi, NC
>
>
> Pete Masterson wrote:
> >
> > I note that I've twice had competent service providers "carefully
> > inspect" the condition of my coach, and neither have indicated
any
> > concern about the air bags. They don't look horrible, but do have
some
> > checking and cracks on the outside. I take it that it's normal
for the
> > age of the bags.
> >
> >
> > While I have no way of knowing (I'm at least the 3rd owner of
this
> > coach), I doubt that any of the POs had the air bags replaced.
The
> > immediate PO never mentioned air bags, and the (incomplete) set
of
> > receipts he provided don't mention them either.
> >
> > Pete Masterson
> > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 (For Sale)
> > <http://www.aeonix.biz/BBforsale.html
> > <http://www.aeonix.biz/BBforsale.html>>
> > El Sobrante CA
> > aeonix1@...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Wayne Kotila wrote:
> >
> >> David, I have a 1985 PT40 that I have owned for 12 years and the
air
> >> bags have looked that way as long as I have owned it. When I
bought
> >> the coach 12 years ago it had about 100,000 miles on it, now it
has
> >> about 160,000. I am not shure but I wonder if the bags have a
thick
> >> outer protective layer that we see cracking on the outside and
the
> >> actual bag sealing the air is a thinner more plyable rubber on
the
> >> inside?
> >> Wayne
> >>
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------
-------
> >> *From:* david brady >
> >> *To:* WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >>
> >> *Sent:* Friday, February 27, 2009 11:37:06 AM
> >> *Subject:* [WanderlodgeForum] Airbags, dry-rot
> >>
> >> I was inspecting the coach the other day and noticed
> >> that all my airbags are checked and cracked, similar
> >> to the appearance of a dry-rotted tire. The bags are
> >> 7.5 years old. Anyone have a feel for how long bags
> >> should last, and how severely checked they can become
> >> before replacement is necessary? I have visions of
> >> installing new bags only to find the same checkng one
> >> year from now.
> >>
> >> (Planning a cross country trip and want to be prepared).
> >>
> >> David Brady
> >> '02 LXi, NC
> >>
> >
> >
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Airbags, dry-rot - david brady - 02-28-2009 11:03


They're trying to say the cords are arranged in a herringbone style.



David,

'02 LXi, NC

timvasqz wrote:


I dont think the bags on our bus are a bag in a bag its just one
bag.

The cover inside and outside are the protective rubber keeping the

chords from the elements. Every rally I attend all you see are old

bags, something should be done. Even the description below is

confusing because ;a fabric is woven and ;bias is orientation at an

angel. if a fabric is situated on a bias , the angle is repeated

every 90deg. how could you arrange the second fabric on an oppisite

angle?



I need to go to a junk yard with a knife and check this out



http://www.airsprings.com.au/Airide_Definitions.cfm



Greg ofTim&Greg



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
david brady "dmb993@..."

wrote:

>

> As other's have pointed out, there does appear to be an inner liner

> built into today's air springs. I copied this following from

Firestone's

> "Airide Design Guide":

>

> "An air spring is a carefully designed rubber and fabric flexible

member

> which contains a column of compressed air. The flexible member

itself

> does not provide force or support load; these functions are

performed

> by the column of air. Firestone air springs are highly engineered

> elastomeric

> flexible members with specifically designed metal end closures. The

> standard two-ply version is made up of four layers:

>

> (1) Inner Liner. An inner liner of calendered rubber.

> (2) Frst Ply. One ply of fabric reinforced rubber with the cords

> at a specific bias angle.

> (3) Second Ply. A second ply of fabric reinforced rubber with the

same bias

> angle laid opposite that of the first ply.

> (4) Outer Cover. An outer cover of calendered rubber."

>

> David Brady

> '02 LXi, NC

>

>

> Pete Masterson wrote:

> >

> > I note that I've twice had competent service providers
"carefully

> > inspect" the condition of my coach, and neither have
indicated

any

> > concern about the air bags. They don't look horrible, but do
have

some

> > checking and cracks on the outside. I take it that it's
normal

for the

> > age of the bags.

> >

> >

> > While I have no way of knowing (I'm at least the 3rd owner of


this

> > coach), I doubt that any of the POs had the air bags
replaced.

The

> > immediate PO never mentioned air bags, and the (incomplete)
set

of

> > receipts he provided don't mention them either.

> >

> > Pete Masterson

> > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 (For Sale)

> > <http://www.aeonix.biz/BBforsale.html


> > <http://www.aeonix.biz/BBforsale.html>>

> > El Sobrante CA

> > aeonix1@... <"aeonix1@"...>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Wayne Kotila wrote:

> >

> >> David, I have a 1985 PT40 that I have owned for 12 years
and the

air

> >> bags have looked that way as long as I have owned it.
When I

bought

> >> the coach 12 years ago it had about 100,000 miles on it,
now it

has

> >> about 160,000. I am not shure but I wonder if the bags
have a

thick

> >> outer protective layer that we see cracking on the
outside and

the

> >> actual bag sealing the air is a thinner more plyable
rubber on

the

> >> inside?

> >> Wayne

> >>

> >> ----------------------------------------------------------

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> >> *From:* david brady ...>>

> >> *To:* "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"


> >>

> >> *Sent:* Friday, February 27, 2009 11:37:06 AM

> >> *Subject:* [WanderlodgeForum] Airbags, dry-rot

> >>

> >> I was inspecting the coach the other day and noticed

> >> that all my airbags are checked and cracked, similar

> >> to the appearance of a dry-rotted tire. The bags are

> >> 7.5 years old. Anyone have a feel for how long bags

> >> should last, and how severely checked they can become

> >> before replacement is necessary? I have visions of

> >> installing new bags only to find the same checkng one

> >> year from now.

> >>

> >> (Planning a cross country trip and want to be prepared).

> >>

> >> David Brady

> >> '02 LXi, NC

> >>

> >

> >

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