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DEAD REFRIGERATOR!!! - Jack and Liz Pearce - 03-31-2009 01:06 Howdy. Our Dometic New Dimensions refrigerator is DEAD. Ammonia smell, yuk! Jack is cogitating on an electric house frig. What factors need to be taken into consideration to make an electric frig work in our 1993 Wanderlodge? More batteries and another inverter? Pros and cons? Sighhh, Liz DEAD REFRIGERATOR!!! - Ernie Ekberg - 03-31-2009 02:19
DEAD REFRIGERATOR!!! - jvredden@... - 03-31-2009 04:28 Liz, I had my Dometic rebuilt for $700.00 John Redden 91 PT 40. In NC Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed From: "Jack and Liz Pearce" Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:06:20 -0000 To: Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] DEAD REFRIGERATOR!!! Howdy. Our Dometic New Dimensions refrigerator is DEAD. Ammonia smell, yuk! Jack is cogitating on an electric house frig. What factors need to be taken into consideration to make an electric frig work in our 1993 Wanderlodge? More batteries and another inverter? Pros and cons? Sighhh, Liz DEAD REFRIGERATOR!!! - bbwlwb88 - 03-31-2009 07:23 Hi Liz: One thing to consider in replacing your old refrigerator is whether or not the new unit will fit without having to modify your coach. Another option that I saw mentioned was to repair the old cooling unit. You might want to check with World Class RV Refrigeration (http://www.rvfridge.com)to get a repair estimate. Royal Washburn 97 BBWL43' --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jack and Liz Pearce" > > Howdy. > > Our Dometic New Dimensions refrigerator is DEAD. Ammonia smell, yuk! > Jack is cogitating on an electric house frig. What factors need to be > taken into consideration to make an electric frig work in our 1993 > Wanderlodge? More batteries and another inverter? Pros and cons? > > > Sighhh, > Liz > DEAD REFRIGERATOR!!! - Pete Masterson - 03-31-2009 07:23 Look for the most energy efficient model you can find. Read consumer's reports. Due to a loophole, some refrigerators are evaluated for the "energy star" and EPA energy guidelines (yellow tag) without the ice maker being turned on. This can have a considerable impact on the energy use. (Consumer's Reports rates refrigerators and lists more realistic estimates of electricity use.) I also note that refrigerators used to be built to last a very long time. This is no longer the case and a refrigerator may die after 10 years or so... (just something to keep in mind). My coach was OEM with an Amana 22 cu ft home-style two door refrigerator with ice maker and through the door ice and chilled water. To accommodate this, I have dual 2800 watt inverters along with six type 4-D house batteries. In practice, the electrical draw of the refrigerator is sufficient to seriously bring down the batteries overnight, even with minimal use of other lights or appliances. So, I keep several "blue ice" gel packs in the freezer (while on generator or shore power) which I move into the main compartment just before bedtime. I then turn off the refrigerator for the night. In the morning, in moderate weather (I've never tried this in the desert -- besides, I'd need shore power for the AC in any event in those conditions) the refrigerator is rarely more than 5 to 7 degrees warmer. I keep a couple of refrigerator thermometers in the main storage compartment and one in the freezer to ensure that we keep a safe temperature. This may only be "our" refrigerator, but I've found that in moving the coach from here to there, it requires somewhat frequent minor adjustments to the internal controller thermostat to keep the inside temperature in the (desirable) 34 to 40 degree range. (Too cold and the veggies freeze, to hot and we all get food poisoning and die (or wish we'd die)...) Since my coach is "all electric" we have to turn on the generator to cook -- so the refrigerator goes back on with breakfast preparations. I have found the all-electric nature to be somewhat limiting for boondocking -- while I'm relatively satisfied with staying in more civilized campgrounds (I find it hard to be without AC in warm/humid weather), I have found boondocking rather less enchanting due to the need to deal with close monitoring of the energy management. Pete Masterson '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 El Sobrante CA "aeonix1@mac.com" On Mar 31, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Jack and Liz Pearce wrote:
DEAD REFRIGERATOR!!! - Al Scudder - 03-31-2009 09:01 Yea Pete! Civlized fellow...AC never leave home with out it!!!! some enchanting evening for sure. Scooter 2000LX Ocqueoc,MI To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com From: aeonix1@... Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:23:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] DEAD REFRIGERATOR!!!
Look for the most energy efficient model you can find. Read consumer's reports. Due to a loophole, some refrigerators are evaluated for the "energy star" and EPA energy guidelines (yellow tag) without the ice maker being turned on. This can have a considerable impact on the energy use. (Consumer's Reports rates refrigerators and lists more realistic estimates of electricity use.) I also note that refrigerators used to be built to last a very long time. This is no longer the case and a refrigerator may die after 10 years or so... (just something to keep in mind).
My coach was OEM with an Amana 22 cu ft home-style two door refrigerator with ice maker and through the door ice and chilled water. To accommodate this, I have dual 2800 watt inverters along with six type 4-D house batteries.
In practice, the electrical draw of the refrigerator is sufficient to seriously bring down the batteries overnight, even with minimal use of other lights or appliances. So, I keep several "blue ice" gel packs in the freezer (while on generator or shore power) which I move into the main compartment just before bedtime. I then turn off the refrigerator for the night. In the morning, in moderate weather (I've never tried this in the desert -- besides, I'd need shore power for the AC in any event in those conditions) the refrigerator is rarely more than 5 to 7 degrees warmer. I keep a couple of refrigerator thermometers in the main storage compartment and one in the freezer to ensure that we keep a safe temperature.
This may only be "our" refrigerator, but I've found that in moving the coach from here to there, it requires somewhat frequent minor adjustments to the internal controller thermostat to keep the inside temperature in the (desirable) 34 to 40 degree range. (Too cold and the veggies freeze, to hot and we all get food poisoning and die (or wish we'd die)...)
Since my coach is "all electric" we have to turn on the generator to cook -- so the refrigerator goes back on with breakfast preparations. I have found the all-electric nature to be somewhat limiting for boondocking -- while I'm relatively satisfied with staying in more civilized campgrounds (I find it hard to be without AC in warm/humid weather), I have found boondocking rather less enchanting due to the need to deal with close monitoring of the energy management.
Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
"aeonix1@mac.com" On Mar 31, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Jack and Liz Pearce wrote:
DEAD REFRIGERATOR!!! - Pete Masterson - 03-31-2009 09:19 Born and raised in the S.F. Bay Area. Worked most of my career in San Francisco. I had NO IDEA just how hot and unpleasant the weather is in the much of the rest of the country. The bus has 3 AC units. I figure I'm not carrying them around just 'cause it needs the extra weight! Pete Masterson '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 El Sobrante CA "aeonix1@mac.com" On Mar 31, 2009, at 2:01 PM, Al Scudder wrote: DEAD REFRIGERATOR!!! - Ryan Wright - 04-01-2009 16:01 Liz, I just replaced my fridge. Literally started the new one up last night. My opinion: Just replace it. pplmotorhomes.com has the best deals going for just about any fridge. My new Norcold N841 was only $1035 plus shipping. It cools real nice, too. I'm very pleased with it. I understand not wanting to buy another one of these. Trust me, I agonized over the decision for months, to the point of considering buying a newer, all-electric Bird with the full size house fridge, etc. In the end, I'm glad I bought the Norcold. Maybe I'll be singing a different tune in a few years but for now, it's working real nice and looks great. I couldn't find a house fridge that looked nice, fit in the same spot and provided a similar amount of interior space, and I've heard fun stories about folks having to use bungee cords to hold the doors closed on some of these. Hey, to each his own, but bungee cords holding my fridge shut just doesn't appeal to me. Even if I had found one, I'd be into it for more money by the time I bought several new batteries with which to keep it powered while boondocking - and sure, I might have to replace the stupid fridge after several years, but I'd have to replace the batteries on about the same schedule, so am I really ahead? I figured not. -Ryan '86 PT-40 8V92 On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Jack and Liz Pearce > Howdy. > > Our Dometic New Dimensions refrigerator is DEAD. Ammonia smell, yuk! Jack is > cogitating on an electric house frig. What factors need to be taken into > consideration to make an electric frig work in our 1993 Wanderlodge? More > batteries and another inverter? Pros and cons? > > Sighhh, > Liz > DEAD REFRIGERATOR!!! - Ryan Wright - 04-01-2009 16:10 Pete, LOL on wishing we'd die!! I've had food poisoning 3 times in the past decade that I can recall and prayed for death to take me on at least two of them. Both of those two put me in the ER; the last one put the whole household in there at the same time, myself, wife and both of our kids, IVs in all four of us, a full week off work, literally unable to do a darn thing to take care of ourselves and then right when I thought things were looking up I got the hospital bill! -Ryan '86 PT-40 8V92 On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Pete Masterson > (Too cold and the veggies freeze, to hot > and we all get food poisoning and die (or wish we'd die)...) |