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Your Reply to Another One Gone - George Burke - 05-01-2009 16:14

Ernie, in your reply concerning the above, you mentioned that about 5 years ago
you obtained a print out from BB of bird owners that was about 2" thick. Do you
remember what other info., other than names that were posted? If it showed the
type of Bird, as 1977 FC31 Gas, etc., that would be great information to know.
Some day in the future, as some of you have, I would like to upgrade to a newer
and larger Wanderlodge, and that kind of info., such as how many of each type
are out there would be a big help. It might steer me one way or another, as, I
might not look for a PT 36, if only a very few were built/and still on the road.
I do at present very much like the PT36, and PT38, as well as the SP. And alas,
if it was newer than 5yrs. old, I can guarantee you that some else would have to
buy it anyway. Bluebird, the transit and school bus folks, are still making a
front engine body, as well as rear engine transit models. Sure would like to see
someone make a FC/PT type Wanderlodge again from these bodys. After all, most of
us aren't millionares, and after X amount of years, could afford to buy a used
one. As I remember, isn't this how Wanderlodge got its start? Regards, George
Burke 1977 FC31 SB GAS Charlotte

Your Reply to Another One Gone - Ernie Ekberg - 05-02-2009 00:13

George, the list I have from Bluebird lists owners by state and their address. Unfortunately, no coach data is listed.


Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Wanderlodge
Weatherford, Tx

--- On Fri, 5/1/09, George Burke wrote:

From: George Burke
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Your Reply to Another One Gone
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 11:14 PM


Ernie, in your reply concerning the above, you mentioned that about 5 years ago you obtained a print out from BB of bird owners that was about 2" thick. Do you remember what other info., other than names that were posted? If it showed the type of Bird, as 1977 FC31 Gas, etc., that would be great information to know. Some day in the future, as some of you have, I would like to upgrade to a newer and larger Wanderlodge, and that kind of info., such as how many of each type are out there would be a big help. It might steer me one way or another, as, I might not look for a PT 36, if only a very few were built/and still on the road. I do at present very much like the PT36, and PT38, as well as the SP. And alas, if it was newer than 5yrs. old, I can guarantee you that some else would have to buy it anyway. Bluebird, the transit and school bus folks, are still making a front engine body, as well as rear engine transit models. Sure would like to see someone
make a FC/PT type Wanderlodge again from these bodys. After all, most of us aren't millionares, and after X amount of years, could afford to buy a used one. As I remember, isn't this how Wanderlodge got its start? Regards, George Burke 1977 FC31 SB GAS Charlotte



Your Reply to Another One Gone - ronmarabito2002 - 05-02-2009 03:25

Ernie: Since you have time on your hands, you could check with Family of
Friends and Vintage Birds to add that information to the list. Time consuming,
but that's what you have. (bg)

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ernie Ekberg wrote:
>
> George, the list I have from Bluebird lists owners by state and their address.
Unfortunately, no coach data is listed.
>
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Wanderlodge
> Weatherford, Tx
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erniesremodelingandrepair
>
> --- On Fri, 5/1/09, George Burke wrote:
>
> From: George Burke
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Your Reply to Another One Gone
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 11:14 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ernie, in your reply concerning the above, you mentioned that about 5 years
ago you obtained a print out from BB of bird owners that was about 2" thick. Do
you remember what other info., other than names that were posted? If it showed
the type of Bird, as 1977 FC31 Gas, etc., that would be great information to
know. Some day in the future, as some of you have, I would like to upgrade to a
newer and larger Wanderlodge, and that kind of info., such as how many of each
type are out there would be a big help. It might steer me one way or another,
as, I might not look for a PT 36, if only a very few were built/and still on the
road. I do at present very much like the PT36, and PT38, as well as the SP. And
alas, if it was newer than 5yrs. old, I can guarantee you that some else would
have to buy it anyway. Bluebird, the transit and school bus folks, are still
making a front engine body, as well as rear engine transit models. Sure would
like to see someone make
> a FC/PT type Wanderlodge again from these bodys. After all, most of us aren't
millionares, and after X amount of years, could afford to buy a used one. As I
remember, isn't this how Wanderlodge got its start? Regards, George Burke 1977
FC31 SB GAS Charlotte
>

Your Reply to Another One Gone - Curt Sprenger - 05-02-2009 03:41

That is how Southwest Bluebirds and Friends got started. I used CA, UT, NV, AZ, placed calls, wrote letters, created the database, etc. Time spent...at least 150 hours.
Curt Sprenger

1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"

Anaheim Hills, CA
Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.

"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"



On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM, ronmarabito2002 <"remarabito@att.net"> wrote:





Ernie: Since you have time on your hands, you could check with Family of Friends and Vintage Birds to add that information to the list. Time consuming, but that's what you have. (bg)



R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Ernie Ekberg wrote:

>

> George, the list I have from Bluebird lists owners by state and their address. Unfortunately, no coach data is listed.

>

>

> Ernie Ekberg

> 83PT40

> Wanderlodge

> Weatherford, Tx

> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erniesremodelingandrepair

>

> --- On Fri, 5/1/09, George Burke wrote:

>

> From: George Burke

> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Your Reply to Another One Gone

> To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"

> Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 11:14 PM

>

>

>

>

>

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>

> Ernie, in your reply concerning the above, you mentioned that about 5 years ago you obtained a print out from BB of bird owners that was about 2" thick. Do you remember what other info., other than names that were posted? If it showed the type of Bird, as 1977 FC31 Gas, etc., that would be great information to know. Some day in the future, as some of you have, I would like to upgrade to a newer and larger Wanderlodge, and that kind of info., such as how many of each type are out there would be a big help. It might steer me one way or another, as, I might not look for a PT 36, if only a very few were built/and still on the road. I do at present very much like the PT36, and PT38, as well as the SP. And alas, if it was newer than 5yrs. old, I can guarantee you that some else would have to buy it anyway. Bluebird, the transit and school bus folks, are still making a front engine body, as well as rear engine transit models. Sure would like to see someone make

> a FC/PT type Wanderlodge again from these bodys. After all, most of us aren't millionares, and after X amount of years, could afford to buy a used one. As I remember, isn't this how Wanderlodge got its start? Regards, George Burke 1977 FC31 SB GAS Charlotte

>





Your Reply to Another One Gone - Ernie Ekberg - 05-02-2009 04:39

Actually, devoting my time to this forum is going to be limited in the future, as I have to get some income coming into our lives. And that requires considerable time looking for work.


Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Wanderlodge
Weatherford, Tx

--- On Sat, 5/2/09, Curt Sprenger wrote:

From: Curt Sprenger
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Your Reply to Another One Gone
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 2, 2009, 10:41 AM


That is how Southwest Bluebirds and Friends got started. I used CA, UT, NV, AZ, placed calls, wrote letters, created the database, etc. Time spent...at least 150 hours.

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA
Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at http://www.SOUTHWES T-BLUEBIRDS. ORG ...Then Join us.
"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"



On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM, ronmarabito2002 <"remarabito@att.net"> wrote:



Ernie: Since you have time on your hands, you could check with Family of Friends and Vintage Birds to add that information to the list. Time consuming, but that's what you have. (bg)

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Ernie Ekberg wrote:
>
> George, the list I have from Bluebird lists owners by state and their address. Unfortunately, no coach data is listed.
>
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Wanderlodge
> Weatherford, Tx
> http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair
>
> --- On Fri, 5/1/09, George Burke wrote:
>
> From: George Burke
> Subject:
[WanderlodgeForum] Your Reply to Another One Gone
> To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"
> Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 11:14 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ernie, in your reply concerning the above, you mentioned that about 5 years ago you obtained a print out from BB of bird owners that was about 2" thick. Do you remember what other info., other than names that were posted? If it showed the type of Bird, as 1977 FC31 Gas, etc., that would be great information to know. Some day in the future, as some of you have, I would like to upgrade to a newer and larger Wanderlodge, and that kind of info., such as how many of each type are out there would be a big help. It might steer me one way or another, as, I might not look for a PT 36, if only a very few were built/and still on the road. I do at present very much
like the PT36, and PT38, as well as the SP. And alas, if it was newer than 5yrs. old, I can guarantee you that some else would have to buy it anyway. Bluebird, the transit and school bus folks, are still making a front engine body, as well as rear engine transit models. Sure would like to see someone make
> a FC/PT type Wanderlodge again from these bodys. After all, most of us aren't millionares, and after X amount of years, could afford to buy a used one. As I remember, isn't this how Wanderlodge got its start? Regards, George Burke 1977 FC31 SB GAS Charlotte
>



Your Reply to Another One Gone - Fred Hulse - 05-02-2009 04:50


Curt
And I can tell you we are grateful for your work, even the sunrises are appreciated!
Fred & Jeanne Hulse
Morristown Arizona
1997 Wanderlodge WLWB41


Your Reply to Another One Gone - Curt Sprenger - 05-02-2009 06:26

Fred, Thanks! I'm looking forward to those sunrises, and Fred's early morning fires at Q 2010.   
Curt Sprenger

1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"

Anaheim Hills, CA
Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.

"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"



On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Fred Hulse <"fhulse@wildblue.net"> wrote:







Curt
 
And I can tell you we are grateful for your work, even the sunrises are appreciated!
 
Fred & Jeanne Hulse
Morristown Arizona
1997 Wanderlodge WLWB41


Your Reply to Another One Gone - ronmarabito2002 - 05-02-2009 06:36

Curt: You could be a nice guy and offer us that database. I know it takes a
lot of time to acquire info like that. Today, that's the only kind of
information available.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger wrote:
>
> That is how Southwest Bluebirds and Friends got started. I used CA, UT, NV,
> AZ, placed calls, wrote letters, created the database, etc. Time spent...at
> least 150 hours.
>
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, CA
> *Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
> http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.
> "Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally" *
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Ernie: Since you have time on your hands, you could check with Family of
> > Friends and Vintage Birds to add that information to the list. Time
> > consuming, but that's what you have. (bg)
> >
> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> > Ernie Ekberg wrote:
> > >
> > > George, the list I have from Bluebird lists owners by state and their
> > address. Unfortunately, no coach data is listed.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ernie Ekberg
> > > 83PT40
> > > Wanderlodge
> > > Weatherford, Tx
> > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erniesremodelingandrepair
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 5/1/09, George Burke wrote:
> > >
> > > From: George Burke
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Your Reply to Another One Gone
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 11:14 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ernie, in your reply concerning the above, you mentioned that about 5
> > years ago you obtained a print out from BB of bird owners that was about 2"
> > thick. Do you remember what other info., other than names that were posted?
> > If it showed the type of Bird, as 1977 FC31 Gas, etc., that would be great
> > information to know. Some day in the future, as some of you have, I would
> > like to upgrade to a newer and larger Wanderlodge, and that kind of info.,
> > such as how many of each type are out there would be a big help. It might
> > steer me one way or another, as, I might not look for a PT 36, if only a
> > very few were built/and still on the road. I do at present very much like
> > the PT36, and PT38, as well as the SP. And alas, if it was newer than 5yrs.
> > old, I can guarantee you that some else would have to buy it anyway.
> > Bluebird, the transit and school bus folks, are still making a front engine
> > body, as well as rear engine transit models. Sure would like to see someone
> > make
> > > a FC/PT type Wanderlodge again from these bodys. After all, most of us
> > aren't millionares, and after X amount of years, could afford to buy a used
> > one. As I remember, isn't this how Wanderlodge got its start? Regards,
> > George Burke 1977 FC31 SB GAS Charlotte
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

Your Reply to Another One Gone - Curt Sprenger - 05-02-2009 08:10

Ron,







USE OF PERSONAL INFORMATION.  All information maintained in the Southwest Bluebirds and friends database, and/or on a specific rally list, is considered strictly confidential,
and is for group use only.  Only information regarding a member or
rally participant's name, city/state, and RV unit will appear on group
and/or rally materials.  Personal information (i.e., addresses, phone
numbers, email addresses, etc.) will be shared with other group members
and/or rally attendees only according to a member's specified
preferences.   If a member has not declared personal information
sharing preferences, none will be divulged to other members unless
written permission is given to the group coordinators to do so.

Curt Sprenger

1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"

Anaheim Hills, CA
Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.

"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"



On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:36 AM, ronmarabito2002 <"remarabito@att.net"> wrote:





Curt: You could be a nice guy and offer us that database. I know it takes a lot of time to acquire info like that. Today, that's the only kind of information available.




R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40


--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Curt Sprenger wrote:

>

> That is how Southwest Bluebirds and Friends got started. I used CA, UT, NV,

> AZ, placed calls, wrote letters, created the database, etc. Time spent...at

> least 150 hours.

>

> Curt Sprenger

> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"

> Anaheim Hills, CA

> *Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at

> http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.

> "Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally" *

>

>

>

>
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Ernie: Since you have time on your hands, you could check with Family of

> > Friends and Vintage Birds to add that information to the list. Time

> > consuming, but that's what you have. (bg)

> >

> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

> >
> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"40yahoogroups.com>,


> > Ernie Ekberg wrote:

> > >

> > > George, the list I have from Bluebird lists owners by state and their

> > address. Unfortunately, no coach data is listed.

> > >

> > >

> > > Ernie Ekberg

> > > 83PT40

> > > Wanderlodge

> > > Weatherford, Tx

> > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erniesremodelingandrepair

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 5/1/09, George Burke wrote:

> > >

> > > From: George Burke

> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Your Reply to Another One Gone
> > > To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"40yahoogroups.com>


> > > Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 11:14 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Ernie, in your reply concerning the above, you mentioned that about 5

> > years ago you obtained a print out from BB of bird owners that was about 2"

> > thick. Do you remember what other info., other than names that were posted?

> > If it showed the type of Bird, as 1977 FC31 Gas, etc., that would be great

> > information to know. Some day in the future, as some of you have, I would

> > like to upgrade to a newer and larger Wanderlodge, and that kind of info.,

> > such as how many of each type are out there would be a big help. It might

> > steer me one way or another, as, I might not look for a PT 36, if only a

> > very few were built/and still on the road. I do at present very much like

> > the PT36, and PT38, as well as the SP. And alas, if it was newer than 5yrs.

> > old, I can guarantee you that some else would have to buy it anyway.

> > Bluebird, the transit and school bus folks, are still making a front engine

> > body, as well as rear engine transit models. Sure would like to see someone

> > make

> > > a FC/PT type Wanderlodge again from these bodys. After all, most of us

> > aren't millionares, and after X amount of years, could afford to buy a used

> > one. As I remember, isn't this how Wanderlodge got its start? Regards,

> > George Burke 1977 FC31 SB GAS Charlotte

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>





Your Reply to Another One Gone - Curt Sprenger - 05-02-2009 17:07

I'll throw this out for thought...

Are WE willing to put upfront dollars, TBD, for some one, or some of us, to work at gathering that information...that's using the latest information list(s) that are available (TBD)?


If I spent 150 hours, probable more, 4 states, and apply hi/low per state, seems like an hour estimate of time would be 1,000  to 1,200 hours, probable more hours, to call, write, etc., chase down, and create a database. Plus there are expenses to do just that. Then there are expenses because some owners only use Snail Mail, postage, and time to keep them informed. I work cheap, others will too, but not for free when it requires dedicated time that this effort requires and the expense to make it happen.


Please present your thoughts to make this work.


Phil & I can request the SWBB database participants grant open information sharing, but the response is TBD.

The FINAL database should respect each participants wishes to protect or share information.


Also, WE need to pay for the dedicated/shared space to store/maintain the information. Someone needs to be in charge for the space, costs, etc.


Site owners, others, please reply. 

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA
Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.

"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"



On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Curt Sprenger <"curtsprenger@gmail.com"> wrote:
Ron,







USE OF PERSONAL INFORMATION.  All information maintained in the Southwest Bluebirds and friends database, and/or on a specific rally list, is considered strictly confidential,
and is for group use only.  Only information regarding a member or
rally participant's name, city/state, and RV unit will appear on group
and/or rally materials.  Personal information (i.e., addresses, phone
numbers, email addresses, etc.) will be shared with other group members
and/or rally attendees only according to a member's specified
preferences.   If a member has not declared personal information
sharing preferences, none will be divulged to other members unless
written permission is given to the group coordinators to do so.

Curt Sprenger

1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"

Anaheim Hills, CA
Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.

"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"



On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:36 AM, ronmarabito2002 <"remarabito@att.net"> wrote:






Curt: You could be a nice guy and offer us that database. I know it takes a lot of time to acquire info like that. Today, that's the only kind of information available.




R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40


--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Curt Sprenger wrote:

>

> That is how Southwest Bluebirds and Friends got started. I used CA, UT, NV,

> AZ, placed calls, wrote letters, created the database, etc. Time spent...at

> least 150 hours.

>

> Curt Sprenger

> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"

> Anaheim Hills, CA

> *Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at

> http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.

> "Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally" *

>

>

>

>
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Ernie: Since you have time on your hands, you could check with Family of

> > Friends and Vintage Birds to add that information to the list. Time

> > consuming, but that's what you have. (bg)

> >

> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

> >
> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"40yahoogroups.com>,


> > Ernie Ekberg wrote:

> > >

> > > George, the list I have from Bluebird lists owners by state and their

> > address. Unfortunately, no coach data is listed.

> > >

> > >

> > > Ernie Ekberg

> > > 83PT40

> > > Wanderlodge

> > > Weatherford, Tx

> > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erniesremodelingandrepair

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 5/1/09, George Burke wrote:

> > >

> > > From: George Burke

> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Your Reply to Another One Gone
> > > To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"40yahoogroups.com>


> > > Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 11:14 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Ernie, in your reply concerning the above, you mentioned that about 5

> > years ago you obtained a print out from BB of bird owners that was about 2"

> > thick. Do you remember what other info., other than names that were posted?

> > If it showed the type of Bird, as 1977 FC31 Gas, etc., that would be great

> > information to know. Some day in the future, as some of you have, I would

> > like to upgrade to a newer and larger Wanderlodge, and that kind of info.,

> > such as how many of each type are out there would be a big help. It might

> > steer me one way or another, as, I might not look for a PT 36, if only a

> > very few were built/and still on the road. I do at present very much like

> > the PT36, and PT38, as well as the SP. And alas, if it was newer than 5yrs.

> > old, I can guarantee you that some else would have to buy it anyway.

> > Bluebird, the transit and school bus folks, are still making a front engine

> > body, as well as rear engine transit models. Sure would like to see someone

> > make

> > > a FC/PT type Wanderlodge again from these bodys. After all, most of us

> > aren't millionares, and after X amount of years, could afford to buy a used

> > one. As I remember, isn't this how Wanderlodge got its start? Regards,

> > George Burke 1977 FC31 SB GAS Charlotte

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>