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Best engine - oneoutlaw45 - 08-31-2009 08:59

what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to buy a
bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's will be
helpful. thanks all.

JW

Best engine - gregoryoconnor - 08-31-2009 17:32

no pros, I think they both do the job intended and there is little difference
between 25 mph climb and 20 mph climb. The in motion Satellite was invented by a
guy with an FC. I know of a gasser in Orange county 'no smoking','no domestic
pets'

Greg of Tim&Greg
94ptca

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "oneoutlaw45" wrote:
>
> what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to buy a
bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's will be
helpful. thanks all.
>
> JW
>

Best engine - R E BRAKE - 08-31-2009 23:21

I feel the cat is a much better engine, I feel the 391 is underpowered

RE

--- On Mon, 8/31/09, oneoutlaw45 wrote:
From: oneoutlaw45
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 4:59 PM


what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to buy a bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's will be helpful. thanks all.

JW



Best engine - Dorn Hetzel - 08-31-2009 23:26

I like my 3208.  Despite the fact that some folks consider them "throwaway" diesels because they aren't lined.

Sure, it's underpowered for the bus, but it's got me up over a mile of 22+% grade, albeit at 9mph or so Smile


Dorn Hetzel
77FC35
Hogansville, GA

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:21 AM, R E BRAKE <"putneyflash@bellsouth.net"> wrote:

 


I feel the cat is a much better engine, I feel the 391 is underpowered

RE

--- On Mon, 8/31/09, oneoutlaw45 <"eagleworks@jonav.net"> wrote:
From: oneoutlaw45 <"eagleworks@jonav.net">
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine
To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"

Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 4:59 PM


 
what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to buy a bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's will be helpful. thanks all.

JW



Best engine - R E BRAKE - 08-31-2009 23:31

3208 can be overhaul, and cat still sells a remanufactured engine.
is

RE

--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Dorn Hetzel wrote:
From: Dorn Hetzel
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 7:26 AM


I like my 3208. Despite the fact that some folks consider them "throwaway" diesels because they aren't lined.

Sure, it's underpowered for the bus, but it's got me up over a mile of 22+% grade, albeit at 9mph or so Smile

Dorn Hetzel
77FC35
Hogansville, GA


On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:21 AM, R E BRAKE <putneyflash@ bellsouth. net> wrote:

I feel the cat is a much better engine, I feel the 391 is underpowered

RE

--- On Mon, 8/31/09, oneoutlaw45 <eagleworks@jonav. net> wrote:
From: oneoutlaw45 <eagleworks@jonav. net>
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine
To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 4:59 PM


what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to buy a bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's will be helpful. thanks all.

JW



Best engine - Bernard Haag - 09-01-2009 00:34

your diesel is the better engine for the power and fuel economy, I will be looking to maybe sell my 95 42ft email me if your interested in some pics....brand new engine with 12 months 100k warrenty and she has a 60 series detroit
From: oneoutlaw45
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:59:28
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Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine





what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to buy a bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's will be helpful. thanks all.



JW





Best engine - Dorn Hetzel - 09-01-2009 01:32

We got a good solid 8.9mpg on my last long (5000+ mile) trip out to Arizona and back.  For a 35ft 27000lb bus, that seems pretty respectable.

Dorn Hetzel
77FC35
Flat Creek Campground, Hogansville, GA

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Bernard Haag <"bhaagrealtor@yahoo.com"> wrote:
 


your diesel is the better engine for the power and fuel economy, I will be looking to maybe sell my 95 42ft email me if your interested in some pics....brand new engine with 12 months 100k warrenty and she has a 60 series detroit

From: oneoutlaw45 <"eagleworks@jonav.net">
To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:59:28
PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine

 


what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to buy a bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's will be helpful. thanks all.



JW





Best engine - rtpn60 - 09-01-2009 02:29

Dorn, you came all the way out to Arizona and didn't stop by to say "Hi"??? hee
hee hee

Diesel over Gas ANYDAY! I have both a '63 Bluebird conversion and my '78
Wanderlodge. The '63 conversion came with the GMC401 v6 gas industrial engine.
I will admit, it was as powerful as the na3208 CAT engine is. BUT, it also had
points, plugs, plug wires, carburater, and if it sat too long would get gummed
up. The diesel can sit for years and then start on the 2nd crank! The 3208 CAT
is rebuild just like a normal gas engine, you bore it out and put in new rings.

Michael Putz
Mesa, Az
78FC35 Wanderlodge
63FC35 Bluebird Conversion

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Dorn Hetzel wrote:
>
> We got a good solid 8.9mpg on my last long (5000+ mile) trip out to Arizona
> and back. For a 35ft 27000lb bus, that seems pretty respectable.
>
> Dorn Hetzel
> 77FC35
> Flat Creek Campground, Hogansville, GA
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Bernard Haag <bhaagrealtor@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > your diesel is the better engine for the power and fuel economy, I will be
> > looking to maybe sell my 95 42ft email me if your interested in some
> > pics....brand new engine with 12 months 100k warrenty and she has a 60
> > series detroit
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* oneoutlaw45
> > *To:* WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 2:59:28 PM
> > *Subject:* [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine
> >
> >
> >
> > what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to
> > buy a bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's
> > will be helpful. thanks all.
> >
> > JW
> >
> >
> >
>

Best engine - rtpn60 - 09-01-2009 02:31

Oh Geez.. forgot the best part!

78FC35 3208 CAT = 7-8mpg
63FC35 401 GMC = 4-5mpg

That alone sold me!

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "rtpn60" <mike.putz@...> wrote:
>
> Dorn, you came all the way out to Arizona and didn't stop by to say "Hi"???
hee hee hee
>
> Diesel over Gas ANYDAY! I have both a '63 Bluebird conversion and my '78
Wanderlodge. The '63 conversion came with the GMC401 v6 gas industrial engine.
I will admit, it was as powerful as the na3208 CAT engine is. BUT, it also had
points, plugs, plug wires, carburater, and if it sat too long would get gummed
up. The diesel can sit for years and then start on the 2nd crank! The 3208 CAT
is rebuild just like a normal gas engine, you bore it out and put in new rings.
>
> Michael Putz
> Mesa, Az
> 78FC35 Wanderlodge
> 63FC35 Bluebird Conversion
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Dorn Hetzel wrote:
> >
> > We got a good solid 8.9mpg on my last long (5000+ mile) trip out to Arizona
> > and back. For a 35ft 27000lb bus, that seems pretty respectable.
> >
> > Dorn Hetzel
> > 77FC35
> > Flat Creek Campground, Hogansville, GA
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Bernard Haag <bhaagrealtor@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > your diesel is the better engine for the power and fuel economy, I will be
> > > looking to maybe sell my 95 42ft email me if your interested in some
> > > pics....brand new engine with 12 months 100k warrenty and she has a 60
> > > series detroit
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *From:* oneoutlaw45
> > > *To:* WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 2:59:28 PM
> > > *Subject:* [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to
> > > buy a bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's
> > > will be helpful. thanks all.
> > >
> > > JW
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Best engine - Dorn Hetzel - 09-01-2009 02:44

My apologies, it was a take-the-kids-to-visit-the-in-laws-over-the-holidays trip with a crazed schedule, 5000 miles in 10 days including stops Smile

I am definitely a diesel fan.  My 77FC35, a 99F350 7.3l diesel, a 2002 Jetta TDI, a 2004 Jetta TDI, a 2003 Kubota diesel tractor, 2001 Kubota diesel excavator and a huge old single cylinder stationary diesel from India for a tinkering project. The only things I own with gas engines are a lawnmower and a wheedwhacker and a chainsaw, and I would probably have those in diesel if it had been an option Smile



Dorn Hetzel
77FC35
Hogansville, GA

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:29 AM, rtpn60 <"mike.putz@cox.net"> wrote:
 


Dorn, you came all the way out to Arizona and didn't stop by to say "Hi"??? hee hee hee



Diesel over Gas ANYDAY! I have both a '63 Bluebird conversion and my '78 Wanderlodge. The '63 conversion came with the GMC401 v6 gas industrial engine. I will admit, it was as powerful as the na3208 CAT engine is. BUT, it also had points, plugs, plug wires, carburater, and if it sat too long would get gummed up. The diesel can sit for years and then start on the 2nd crank! The 3208 CAT is rebuild just like a normal gas engine, you bore it out and put in new rings.



Michael Putz

Mesa, Az

78FC35 Wanderlodge

63FC35 Bluebird Conversion




--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Dorn Hetzel wrote:

>

> We got a good solid 8.9mpg on my last long (5000+ mile) trip out to Arizona

> and back. For a 35ft 27000lb bus, that seems pretty respectable.

>

> Dorn Hetzel

> 77FC35

> Flat Creek Campground, Hogansville, GA

>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Bernard Haag <bhaagrealtor@...> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > your diesel is the better engine for the power and fuel economy, I will be

> > looking to maybe sell my 95 42ft email me if your interested in some

> > pics....brand new engine with 12 months 100k warrenty and she has a 60

> > series detroit

> >

> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* oneoutlaw45

> > *To:* "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"

> > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 2:59:28 PM

> > *Subject:* [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine

> >

> >

> >

> > what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to

> > buy a bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's

> > will be helpful. thanks all.

> >

> > JW

> >

> >

> >

>