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12.5 Kohlar question(s) - Chuck Wheeler - 10-02-2010 11:47
After struggling generator problems I
removed the generator and have been cleaning things up. I have rebuilt
and static tested the control box undoing modifications that someone had made.
The original design is pretty simple and reliable. I do have two
mechanical questions as I have electrical drawings but no mechanical drawings.
1. Fuel cutoff has always been a
problem. There is a spring from the actuator arm on the injector pump to
the timing belt housing and it has interference problems with other items in
the area. Most Diesels I have worked on have a spring on the Fuel cutoff solenoid.
Where is the return spring supposed to be?
2. Is there a source for the rubber boot
on the fuel cutoff solenoid?
3. There is a micro-switch mounted
below the fuel cutoff solenoid. It does not appear on the generator electrical
drawings and what ever activated it is missing. Does anyone know what it
is supposed to control or indicate?
- Chuck Wheeler-
1982 FC 31SB
12.5 Kohlar question(s) - Ralph L. Fullenwider - 10-02-2010 16:11
Hi Chuck:
Tomorrow I will take a photo of the spring location and send it.
2. Are you going to be at the X-Mas Rally? if so I will bring you a boot
for it.
3. The micro switch was an add on for some reason and not needed.
Safe travels,
Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
"84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
Duncan, Oklahoma
At 06:47 PM 10/2/2010 -0500, you wrote:
>After struggling generator problems I removed the generator and have been
>cleaning things up. I have rebuilt and static tested the control box
>undoing modifications that someone had made. The original design is
>pretty simple and reliable. I do have two mechanical questions as I have
>electrical drawings but no mechanical drawings.
>
>
>
>1. Fuel cutoff has always been a problem. There is a spring from the
>actuator arm on the injector pump to the timing belt housing and it has
>interference problems with other items in the area. Most Diesels I have
>worked on have a spring on the Fuel cutoff solenoid. Where is the return
>spring supposed to be?
>
>
>
>2. Is there a source for the rubber boot on the fuel cutoff solenoid?
>
>
>
>3. There is a micro-switch mounted below the fuel cutoff solenoid. It
>does not appear on the generator electrical drawings and what ever
>activated it is missing. Does anyone know what it is supposed to control
>or indicate?
>
>
>
>- Chuck Wheeler-
>
>1982 FC 31SB Fort Worth TX
12.5 Kohlar question(s) - Chuck Wheeler - 10-03-2010 10:39
Thanks Ralph, I kind of guessed that you
would be the one to reply!
I would appreciate the picture! Usually
I can figure things out, but there is no logical place for the spring I can
see. I have the generator out and am trying to get every thing done by
next Saturday. That’s when I have to return the pallet jack that I
used to remove it and that it is currently sitting on. I would gladly pay
you for it plus the shipping costs. I am not sure why they put a 12.5kw
in a FC31. It is on a smaller tray than normal and is very cramped to try
and work on when installed. That’s why I decided to take it out and
do everything right.
One question I forgot. My high temperature
cutoff sensor did not pass the test. I discovered that there are two resistance
sensors installed like would be used for a temperature gauge. The cutoff
should be a switch. I am guessing it would be set for 200-210
degrees. Do you have any information about the cutoff sensor?
My guess is that we will probably be out
of town during the X-Mas Rally. During the holiday season Kathy’s
Real Estate work slows down and we usually are travelling to visit family for
the Holidays.
- Chuck
Wheeler-
1982 FC 31SB
From:
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010
11:12 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum]
12.5 Kohlar question(s)
Hi Chuck:
Tomorrow I will take a photo of the spring location and send it.
2. Are you going to be at the X-Mas Rally? if so I will bring you a boot
for it.
3. The micro switch was an add on for some reason and not needed.
Safe travels,
Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
"84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
At 06:47 PM 10/2/2010 -0500, you wrote:
>After struggling generator problems I removed the generator and have been
>cleaning things up. I have rebuilt and static tested the control box
>undoing modifications that someone had made. The original design is
>pretty simple and reliable. I do have two mechanical questions as I have
>electrical drawings but no mechanical drawings.
>
>
>
>1. Fuel cutoff has always been a problem. There is a spring from the
>actuator arm on the injector pump to the timing belt housing and it has
>interference problems with other items in the area. Most Diesels I have
>worked on have a spring on the Fuel cutoff solenoid. Where is the return
>spring supposed to be?
>
>
>
>2. Is there a source for the rubber boot on the fuel cutoff solenoid?
>
>
>
>3. There is a micro-switch mounted below the fuel cutoff solenoid. It
>does not appear on the generator electrical drawings and what ever
>activated it is missing. Does anyone know what it is supposed to control
>or indicate?
>
>
>
>- Chuck Wheeler-
>
>1982 FC 31SB
12.5 Kohlar question(s) - Robert Johannesen - 10-03-2010 13:56
From: Chuck Wheeler
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 5:39:54 PM
Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] 12.5 Kohlar question(s)
Thanks Ralph, I kind of guessed that you would be the one to reply!
I would appreciate the picture! Usually I can figure things out, but there is no logical place for the spring I can see. I have the generator out and am trying to get every thing done by next Saturday. Thatââ¬â¢s when I have to return the pallet jack that I used to remove it and that it is currently sitting on. I would gladly pay you for it plus the shipping costs. I am not sure why they put a 12.5kw in a FC31. It is on a smaller tray than normal and is very cramped to try and work on when installed. Thatââ¬â¢s why I decided to take it out and do everything right.
One question I forgot. My high temperature cutoff sensor did not pass the test. I discovered that there are two resistance sensors installed like would be used for a temperature gauge. The cutoff should be a switch. I am guessing it would be set for 200-210 degrees. Do you have any information about the cutoff sensor?
My guess is that we will probably be out of town during the X-Mas Rally. During the holiday season Kathyââ¬â¢s Real Estate work slows down and we usually are travelling to visit family for the Holidays.
- Chuck Wheeler-
1982 FC 31SB Fort Worth TX
From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Ralph L. Fullenwider
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:12 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] 12.5 Kohlar question(s)
Hi Chuck:
Tomorrow I will take a photo of the spring location and send it.
2. Are you going to be at the X-Mas Rally? if so I will bring you a boot
for it.
3. The micro switch was an add on for some reason and not needed.
Safe travels,
Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
"84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
Duncan , Oklahoma
At 06:47 PM 10/2/2010 -0500, you wrote:
>After struggling generator problems I removed the generator and have been
>cleaning things up. I have rebuilt and static tested the control box
>undoing modifications that someone had made. The original design is
>pretty simple and reliable. I do have two mechanical questions as I have
>electrical drawings but no mechanical drawings.
>
>
>
>1. Fuel cutoff has always been a problem. There is a spring from the
>actuator arm on the
injector pump to the timing belt housing and it has
>interference problems with other items in the area. Most Diesels I have
>worked on have a spring on the Fuel cutoff solenoid. Where is the return
>spring supposed to be?
>
>
>
>2. Is there a source for the rubber boot on the fuel cutoff solenoid?
>
>
>
>3. There is a micro-switch mounted below the fuel cutoff solenoid. It
>does not appear on the generator electrical drawings and what ever
>activated it is missing. Does anyone know what it is supposed to control
>or indicate?
>
>
>
>- Chuck Wheeler-
>
>1982 FC 31SB Fort Worth TX
12.5 Kohlar question(s) - Chuck Wheeler - 10-03-2010 18:05
Bob,
I did replace the insulation at the same
time I did the engine housing. I think I still have some in the box at the
storage unit. I will check for the name.
- Chuck
Wheeler-
1982 FC 31SB
From:
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010
8:56 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum]
12.5 Kohlar question(s)
Chuck,
Did youreplace the soundproofing
insulation over the generator? If so, which did you decide to use? Mine
needs to be replaced soon!
I know what you mean about the generator
being cramed in a small spot. I replaced my 6.5 KW Onan with a 10KW diesel and
had to do some "re-arranging"!
Bob & Judy Johannesen
Argyle, TX. '91 WLWB "Seldom Blue"
From: Chuck Wheeler
<
To:
Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 5:39:54
PM
Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum]
12.5 Kohlar question(s)
Thanks Ralph, I kind of guessed that you would be the one to
reply!
I would appreciate the picture! Usually I can figure things
out, but there is no logical place for the spring I can see. I have the
generator out and am trying to get every thing done by next Saturday.
That’s when I have to return the pallet jack that I used to remove it and that
it is currently sitting on. I would gladly pay you for it plus the
shipping costs. I am not sure why they put a 12.5kw in a FC31. It
is on a smaller tray than normal and is very cramped to try and work on when
installed. That’s why I decided to take it out and do everything right.
One question I forgot. My high temperature cutoff sensor did
not pass the test. I discovered that there are two resistance sensors
installed like would be used for a temperature gauge. The cutoff should
be a switch. I am guessing it would be set for 200-210 degrees. Do
you have any information about the cutoff sensor?
My guess is that we will probably be out of town during the X-Mas
Rally. During the holiday season Kathy’s Real Estate work slows down and
we usually are travelling to visit family for the Holidays.
- Chuck Wheeler-
1982 FC 31SB
From:
[mailto:
] On Behalf Of Ralph L.
Fullenwider
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010
11:12 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum]
12.5 Kohlar question(s)
Hi Chuck:
Tomorrow I will take a photo of the spring location and send it.
2. Are you going to be at the X-Mas Rally? if so I will bring you a boot
for it.
3. The micro switch was an add on for some reason and not needed.
Safe travels,
Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
"84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
At 06:47 PM 10/2/2010 -0500, you wrote:
>After struggling generator problems I removed the generator and have been
>cleaning things up. I have rebuilt and static tested the control box
>undoing modifications that someone had made. The original design is
>pretty simple and reliable. I do have two mechanical questions as I have
>electrical drawings but no mechanical drawings.
>
>
>
>1. Fuel cutoff has always been a problem. There is a spring from the
>actuator arm on the injector pump to the timing belt housing and it has
>interference problems with other items in the area. Most Diesels I have
>worked on have a spring on the Fuel cutoff solenoid. Where is the return
>spring supposed to be?
>
>
>
>2. Is there a source for the rubber boot on the fuel cutoff solenoid?
>
>
>
>3. There is a micro-switch mounted below the fuel cutoff solenoid. It
>does not appear on the generator electrical drawings and what ever
>activated it is missing. Does anyone know what it is supposed to control
>or indicate?
>
>
>
>- Chuck Wheeler-
>
>1982 FC 31SB
12.5 Kohlar question(s) - mbulriss - 10-04-2010 05:24
Hi Bob,
OK, I have to ask. What did you have a 6.5KW Onan in? Not your 91, right?
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Robert Johannesen
>
> Chuck,
> à à à à Did youà replace the soundproofing insulation over the generator? If
so,
> which did you decide to use?Ã Mine needs to be replaced soon!
>
> Ã Ã Ã Ã Ã I know what you mean about the generator being cramed in a small
spot. I
> replaced my 6.5 KW Onan with a 10KW diesel and had to do some "re-arranging"!Ã
>
> Bob & Judy Johannesen
> Argyle, TX.Ã Ã '91 WLWB "Seldom Blue"
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Chuck Wheeler
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 5:39:54 PM
> Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] 12.5 Kohlar question(s)
>
> Ã
> Thanks Ralph, I kind of guessed that you would be the one to reply!Ã
> Ã
> I would appreciate the picture!Ã Usually I can figure things out, but there
is
> no logical place for the spring I can see.Ã I have the generator out and am
> trying to get every thing done by next Saturday.à Thatââ¬â¢s when I have to
return
> the pallet jack that I used to remove it and that it is currently sitting on.Ã
I
> would gladly pay you for it plus the shipping costs.Ã I am not sure why they
put
> a 12.5kw in a FC31.Ã It is on a smaller tray than normal and is very cramped
to
> try and work on when installed.à Thatââ¬â¢s why I decided to take it out and do
> everything right.
> Ã
> One question I forgot.Ã My high temperature cutoff sensor did not pass the
> test.Ã I discovered that there are two resistance sensors installed like
would
> be used for a temperature gauge.Ã The cutoff should be a switch.Ã I am
guessing
> it would be set for 200-210 degrees.Ã Do you have any information about the
> cutoff sensor?
> Ã
> My guess is that we will probably be out of town during the X-Mas Rally.Ã
During
> the holiday season Kathyââ¬â¢s Real Estate work slows down and we usually are
> travelling to visit family for the Holidays.Ã
>
> Ã
> - Chuck Wheeler-
> 1982 FC 31SB Fort Worth TX
>
> ________________________________
>
> From:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> ] On Behalf Of Ralph L. Fullenwider
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:12 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] 12.5 Kohlar question(s)
> Ã
> Ã
> Hi Chuck:
>
> Tomorrow I will take a photo of the spring location and send it.
> 2. Are you going to be at the X-Mas Rally? if so I will bring you a boot
> for it.
> 3. The micro switch was an add on for some reason and not needed.
>
> Safe travels,
>
> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> "84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
> Duncan , Oklahoma
>
> At 06:47 PM 10/2/2010 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >After struggling generator problems I removed the generator and have been
> >cleaning things up. I have rebuilt and static tested the control box
> >undoing modifications that someone had made. The original design is
> >pretty simple and reliable. I do have two mechanical questions as I have
> >electrical drawings but no mechanical drawings.
> >
> >
> >
> >1. Fuel cutoff has always been a problem. There is a spring from the
> >actuator arm on the injector pump to the timing belt housing and it has
> >interference problems with other items in the area. Most Diesels I have
> >worked on have a spring on the Fuel cutoff solenoid. Where is the return
> >spring supposed to be?
> >
> >
> >
> >2. Is there a source for the rubber boot on the fuel cutoff solenoid?
> >
> >
> >
> >3. There is a micro-switch mounted below the fuel cutoff solenoid. It
> >does not appear on the generator electrical drawings and what ever
> >activated it is missing. Does anyone know what it is supposed to control
> >or indicate?
> >
> >
> >
> >- Chuck Wheeler-
> >
> >1982 FC 31SB Fort Worth TX
>
12.5 Kohlar question(s) - Robert Johannesen - 10-04-2010 10:41
From: Chuck Wheeler
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 1:05:51 AM
Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] 12.5 Kohlar question(s)
Bob,
I did replace the insulation at the same time I did the engine housing. I think I still have some in the box at the storage unit. I will check for the name.
- Chuck Wheeler-
1982 FC 31SB Fort Worth TX
From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Robert Johannesen
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 8:56 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] 12.5 Kohlar question(s)
Chuck,
Did youreplace the soundproofing insulation over the generator? If so, which did you decide to use? Mine needs to be replaced soon!
I know what you mean about the generator being cramed in a small spot. I replaced my 6.5 KW Onan with a 10KW diesel and had to do some "re-arranging"!
Bob & Judy Johannesen
Argyle, TX. '91 WLWB "Seldom Blue"
From: Chuck Wheeler < cwheeler@... >
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 5:39:54 PM
Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] 12.5 Kohlar question(s)
Thanks Ralph, I kind of guessed that you would be the one to reply!
I would appreciate the picture! Usually I can figure things out, but there is no logical place for the spring I can see. I have the generator out and am trying to get every thing done by next Saturday. Thatââ¬â¢s when I have to return the pallet jack that I used to remove it and that it is currently sitting on. I would gladly pay you for it plus the shipping costs. I am not sure why they put a 12.5kw in a FC31. It is on a smaller tray than normal and is very cramped to try and work on when installed. Thatââ¬â¢s why I decided to take it out and do everything right.
One question I forgot. My high temperature cutoff sensor did not pass the test. I discovered that there are two resistance sensors installed like would be used for a temperature gauge. The cutoff should be a switch. I am guessing it would be set for 200-210 degrees. Do you have any information about the cutoff sensor?
My guess is that we will probably be out of town during the X-Mas Rally. During the holiday season Kathyââ¬â¢s Real Estate work slows down and we usually are travelling to visit family for the Holidays.
- Chuck Wheeler-
1982 FC 31SB Fort Worth TX
From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Ralph L. Fullenwider
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:12 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] 12.5 Kohlar question(s)
Hi Chuck:
Tomorrow I will take a photo of the spring location and send it.
2. Are you going to be at the X-Mas Rally? if so I will bring you a boot
for it.
3. The micro switch was an add on for some reason and not needed.
Safe travels,
Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
"84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
Duncan , Oklahoma
At 06:47 PM 10/2/2010 -0500, you wrote:
>After struggling generator problems I removed the generator and have been
>cleaning things up. I have rebuilt and static tested the control box
>undoing modifications that someone had made. The original design is
>pretty simple and reliable. I do have two mechanical questions as I have
>electrical drawings but no mechanical drawings.
>
>
>
>1. Fuel cutoff has always been a problem. There is a spring from the
>actuator arm on the
injector pump to the timing belt housing and it has
>interference problems with other items in the area. Most Diesels I have
>worked on have a spring on the Fuel cutoff solenoid. Where is the return
>spring supposed to be?
>
>
>
>2. Is there a source for the rubber boot on the fuel cutoff solenoid?
>
>
>
>3. There is a micro-switch mounted below the fuel cutoff solenoid. It
>does not appear on the generator electrical drawings and what ever
>activated it is missing. Does anyone know what it is supposed to control
>or indicate?
>
>
>
>- Chuck Wheeler-
>
>1982 FC 31SB Fort Worth TX
12.5 Kohlar question(s) - Robert Johannesen - 10-04-2010 10:51
Worked like a champ and probably is still running for the guy who bought it and took off for Cost Rica!
From: mbulriss <mbulriss@...>
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 12:24:43 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 12.5 Kohlar question(s)
Hi Bob,
OK, I have to ask. What did you have a 6.5KW Onan in? Not your 91, right?
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX
--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Robert Johannesen
>
> Chuck,
> ̉̉̉̉ Did yoủreplace the soundproofing insulation over the generator? If so,
> which did you decide to use?Ãâ Mine needs to be replaced soon!
>
> ̉̉̉̉̉I know what you mean about the generator being cramed in a small spot. I
> replaced my 6.5 KW Onan with a 10KW diesel and had to do some "re-arranging"!Ãâ
>
> Bob & Judy Johannesen
> Argyle, TX.̉̉ '91 WLWB "Seldom Blue"
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Chuck Wheeler
> To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"
> Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 5:39:54 PM
> Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] 12.5 Kohlar question(s)
>
> Ãâ
> Thanks Ralph, I kind of guessed that you would be the one to reply!Ãâ
> Ãâ
> I would appreciate the picture!Ãâ Usually I can figure things out, but there is
> no logical place for the spring I can see.Ãâ I have the generator out and am
> trying to get every thing done by next Saturday.Ãâ Thatâââ‰â¢s when I have to return
> the pallet jack that I used to remove it and that it is currently sitting on.Ãâ I
> would gladly pay you for it plus the shipping
costs.Ãâ I am not sure why they put
> a 12.5kw in a FC31.Ãâ It is on a smaller tray than normal and is very cramped to
> try and work on when installed.Ãâ Thatâââ‰â¢s why I decided to take it out and do
> everything right.
> Ãâ
> One question I forgot.Ãâ My high temperature cutoff sensor did not pass the
> test.Ãâ I discovered that there are two resistance sensors installed like would
> be used for a temperature gauge.Ãâ The cutoff should be a switch.Ãâ I am guessing
> it would be set for 200-210 degrees.Ãâ Do you have any information about the
> cutoff sensor?
> Ãâ
> My guess is that we will probably be out of town during the X-Mas Rally.Ãâ During
> the holiday season Kathyâââ‰â¢s Real Estate work slows down and we usually are
> travelling to visit family for the Holidays.Ãâ
>
>
Ãâ
> - Chuck Wheeler-
> 1982 FC 31SB Fort Worth TX
>
> ________________________________
>
> From:"WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com" [mailto: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"
> ] On Behalf Of Ralph L. Fullenwider
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:12 PM
> To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] 12.5 Kohlar question(s)
> Ãâ
> Ãâ
> Hi Chuck:
>
> Tomorrow I will take a photo of the spring location and send it.
>
2. Are you going to be at the X-Mas Rally? if so I will bring you a boot
> for it.
> 3. The micro switch was an add on for some reason and not needed.
>
> Safe travels,
>
> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> "84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
> Duncan , Oklahoma
>
> At 06:47 PM 10/2/2010 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >After struggling generator problems I removed the generator and have been
> >cleaning things up. I have rebuilt and static tested the control box
> >undoing modifications that someone had made. The original design is
> >pretty simple and reliable. I do have two mechanical questions as I have
> >electrical drawings but no mechanical drawings.
> >
> >
> >
> >1. Fuel cutoff has always been a problem. There is a spring from the
> >actuator arm on the injector pump to the timing belt housing and it
has
> >interference problems with other items in the area. Most Diesels I have
> >worked on have a spring on the Fuel cutoff solenoid. Where is the return
> >spring supposed to be?
> >
> >
> >
> >2. Is there a source for the rubber boot on the fuel cutoff solenoid?
> >
> >
> >
> >3. There is a micro-switch mounted below the fuel cutoff solenoid. It
> >does not appear on the generator electrical drawings and what ever
> >activated it is missing. Does anyone know what it is supposed to control
> >or indicate?
> >
> >
> >
> >- Chuck Wheeler-
> >
> >1982 FC 31SB Fort Worth TX
>