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TPMS recommendations - mbulriss - 10-11-2012 09:56
I am looking for what brand/models of Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems are being
used out there? What features do you like (or not like) about your model? Ball
park system prices?
Thanks,
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX
TPMS recommendations - Mike - 10-13-2012 02:02
Mike I'll look and see what brand is in our bus. It seems to work well.
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...> wrote:
>
> I am looking for what brand/models of Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems are
being used out there? What features do you like (or not like) about your model?
Ball park system prices?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
TPMS recommendations - carhauler7777 - 10-14-2012 15:52
Hi Mike,
I have the Tire-Safeguard system on my coach and toad.
I bought the kit with six flow-through sensors for the coach, and four cap
sensors for the toad. I have a Crossfire system on my rear duals so one
flow-through sensor takes care of each set of duals.
Some systems require you buy new sensors when the batteries die (at 40-50 bucks
a pop). Tire-Safeguard sensors have replaceable batteries, so there is no need
to buy new sensors when the batteries go dead.
Some of the other systems I looked at also recommended/required a repeater for
steel body coaches, especially if sensors were installed on the toad. My system
works just fine without a repeater.
180 degree valve stem adapters need to be installed on the tag axle wheels so
the flow-through sensors face out. This will also be an issue on duals without
a tire pressure equalizing system like my Crossfire.
Installation and programming is very simple. The sensors come numbered and
programmed for wheel position on the coach and toad.
Everything worked fine during our recent 2100 mile round trip to Portland,
Oregon and back. I verified the monitor readings with my truck air pressure
gauge and all were within one or two pounds.
It's quite interesting to see how much tire air pressure increases when the
wheels are rolling.
Phil
"iWander"
85PT40
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...> wrote:
>
> I am looking for what brand/models of Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems are
being used out there? What features do you like (or not like) about your model?
Ball park system prices?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
TPMS recommendations - James Q Riordan Jr - 10-15-2012 09:32
Steve Birtles might have some info "cape0001@hotmail.com"
Thanks,
Thanks,
Jim Riordan
On Oct 11, 2012, at 5:56 PM, "mbulriss" <"mbulriss@yahoo.com"> wrote:
I am looking for what brand/models of Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems are being used out there? What features do you like (or not like) about your model? Ball park system prices?
Thanks,
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX
TPMS recommendations - mbulriss - 10-16-2012 03:42
Really great info Phil. Thanks.
The key 'selling' points I got out of this for this brand are:
1) the user replaceable batteries (which seem a real plus over other models),
2) the flow thru sensors,
3) no need for a repeater with this brand, and
4) the fact that they work with Crossfires (I had not thought about that
feature).
However, I have a question on the Crossfires. I have thought about them but
have not installed them. Isn't the purpose of those to equalize pressures on
duals, yet block a leak if one tire goes down? How will this affect the readings
from the Crossfire sensor to the dash monitor? Or do the Crossfires allow for
'x' amount of pressure loss before blocking the air loss? So you would know you
had a dual problem, but not which one. Correct? Of course you save the cost of
two more sensors.
I had not realized that the sensors were numbered and pre-programmed by tire
position. I wonder if that is true for all systems?
Does the Tire-Safeguard monitor show all sensors at once on their graphic image
or do you have to scroll thru screens to see all the sensor readings?
Thanks a bunch!
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "carhauler7777"
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I have the Tire-Safeguard system on my coach and toad.
>
> I bought the kit with six flow-through sensors for the coach, and four cap
sensors for the toad. I have a Crossfire system on my rear duals so one
flow-through sensor takes care of each set of duals.
>
> Some systems require you buy new sensors when the batteries die (at 40-50
bucks a pop). Tire-Safeguard sensors have replaceable batteries, so there is no
need to buy new sensors when the batteries go dead.
>
> Some of the other systems I looked at also recommended/required a repeater for
steel body coaches, especially if sensors were installed on the toad. My system
works just fine without a repeater.
>
> 180 degree valve stem adapters need to be installed on the tag axle wheels so
the flow-through sensors face out. This will also be an issue on duals without
a tire pressure equalizing system like my Crossfire.
>
> Installation and programming is very simple. The sensors come numbered and
programmed for wheel position on the coach and toad.
>
> Everything worked fine during our recent 2100 mile round trip to Portland,
Oregon and back. I verified the monitor readings with my truck air pressure
gauge and all were within one or two pounds.
>
> It's quite interesting to see how much tire air pressure increases when the
wheels are rolling.
>
> Phil
> "iWander"
> 85PT40
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@> wrote:
> >
> > I am looking for what brand/models of Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems are
being used out there? What features do you like (or not like) about your model?
Ball park system prices?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
>
TPMS recommendations - oceanshores98569 - 10-16-2012 15:24
Hi Mike.
We use Tire Monitor brand.
I think they all work about the same.
Ours don't have the flow thru capability tho.
I put one on the Crossfire's and can see what the pressure is for both tires.
Your are right that the Crossfire's will shut off the air loss after 10 lbs of
loss.
I have a booster mounted near the batteries connected to 12v.
Not sure if it was needed, but gives the hand held monitor a good signal up
front.
We have had it beep us after leaving Rachel, Nv with a air loss on the right
tag.
Piced up a nail in Rachel.
Used my compressor and it got us to Fallon NV for a tire fix.
Also used these sensors on the tow car and the trailer carring our Trex.
Wouldn't leave anywhere without them.
Price 5 years ago was around $275 for all sensors and monitor and booster.
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...> wrote:
>
> Really great info Phil. Thanks.
>
> The key 'selling' points I got out of this for this brand are:
> 1) the user replaceable batteries (which seem a real plus over other models),
> 2) the flow thru sensors,
> 3) no need for a repeater with this brand, and
> 4) the fact that they work with Crossfires (I had not thought about that
feature).
>
> However, I have a question on the Crossfires. I have thought about them but
have not installed them. Isn't the purpose of those to equalize pressures on
duals, yet block a leak if one tire goes down? How will this affect the readings
from the Crossfire sensor to the dash monitor? Or do the Crossfires allow for
'x' amount of pressure loss before blocking the air loss? So you would know you
had a dual problem, but not which one. Correct? Of course you save the cost of
two more sensors.
>
> I had not realized that the sensors were numbered and pre-programmed by tire
position. I wonder if that is true for all systems?
>
> Does the Tire-Safeguard monitor show all sensors at once on their graphic
image or do you have to scroll thru screens to see all the sensor readings?
>
> Thanks a bunch!
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "carhauler7777"
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > I have the Tire-Safeguard system on my coach and toad.
> >
> > I bought the kit with six flow-through sensors for the coach, and four cap
sensors for the toad. I have a Crossfire system on my rear duals so one
flow-through sensor takes care of each set of duals.
> >
> > Some systems require you buy new sensors when the batteries die (at 40-50
bucks a pop). Tire-Safeguard sensors have replaceable batteries, so there is no
need to buy new sensors when the batteries go dead.
> >
> > Some of the other systems I looked at also recommended/required a repeater
for steel body coaches, especially if sensors were installed on the toad. My
system works just fine without a repeater.
> >
> > 180 degree valve stem adapters need to be installed on the tag axle wheels
so the flow-through sensors face out. This will also be an issue on duals
without a tire pressure equalizing system like my Crossfire.
> >
> > Installation and programming is very simple. The sensors come numbered and
programmed for wheel position on the coach and toad.
> >
> > Everything worked fine during our recent 2100 mile round trip to Portland,
Oregon and back. I verified the monitor readings with my truck air pressure
gauge and all were within one or two pounds.
> >
> > It's quite interesting to see how much tire air pressure increases when the
wheels are rolling.
> >
> > Phil
> > "iWander"
> > 85PT40
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am looking for what brand/models of Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems are
being used out there? What features do you like (or not like) about your model?
Ball park system prices?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Mike Bulriss
> > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > > San Antonio, TX
> > >
> >
>
TPMS recommendations - Mike - 10-17-2012 02:00
Mike Mine is a SMARTTIRE brand.
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "oceanshores98569"
wrote:
>
> Hi Mike.
> We use Tire Monitor brand.
> I think they all work about the same.
> Ours don't have the flow thru capability tho.
> I put one on the Crossfire's and can see what the pressure is for both tires.
> Your are right that the Crossfire's will shut off the air loss after 10 lbs of
loss.
> I have a booster mounted near the batteries connected to 12v.
> Not sure if it was needed, but gives the hand held monitor a good signal up
front.
> We have had it beep us after leaving Rachel, Nv with a air loss on the right
tag.
> Piced up a nail in Rachel.
> Used my compressor and it got us to Fallon NV for a tire fix.
> Also used these sensors on the tow car and the trailer carring our Trex.
> Wouldn't leave anywhere without them.
> Price 5 years ago was around $275 for all sensors and monitor and booster.
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@> wrote:
> >
> > Really great info Phil. Thanks.
> >
> > The key 'selling' points I got out of this for this brand are:
> > 1) the user replaceable batteries (which seem a real plus over other
models),
> > 2) the flow thru sensors,
> > 3) no need for a repeater with this brand, and
> > 4) the fact that they work with Crossfires (I had not thought about that
feature).
> >
> > However, I have a question on the Crossfires. I have thought about them but
have not installed them. Isn't the purpose of those to equalize pressures on
duals, yet block a leak if one tire goes down? How will this affect the readings
from the Crossfire sensor to the dash monitor? Or do the Crossfires allow for
'x' amount of pressure loss before blocking the air loss? So you would know you
had a dual problem, but not which one. Correct? Of course you save the cost of
two more sensors.
> >
> > I had not realized that the sensors were numbered and pre-programmed by tire
position. I wonder if that is true for all systems?
> >
> > Does the Tire-Safeguard monitor show all sensors at once on their graphic
image or do you have to scroll thru screens to see all the sensor readings?
> >
> > Thanks a bunch!
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "carhauler7777"
> > >
> > > Hi Mike,
> > >
> > > I have the Tire-Safeguard system on my coach and toad.
> > >
> > > I bought the kit with six flow-through sensors for the coach, and four cap
sensors for the toad. I have a Crossfire system on my rear duals so one
flow-through sensor takes care of each set of duals.
> > >
> > > Some systems require you buy new sensors when the batteries die (at 40-50
bucks a pop). Tire-Safeguard sensors have replaceable batteries, so there is no
need to buy new sensors when the batteries go dead.
> > >
> > > Some of the other systems I looked at also recommended/required a repeater
for steel body coaches, especially if sensors were installed on the toad. My
system works just fine without a repeater.
> > >
> > > 180 degree valve stem adapters need to be installed on the tag axle wheels
so the flow-through sensors face out. This will also be an issue on duals
without a tire pressure equalizing system like my Crossfire.
> > >
> > > Installation and programming is very simple. The sensors come numbered
and programmed for wheel position on the coach and toad.
> > >
> > > Everything worked fine during our recent 2100 mile round trip to Portland,
Oregon and back. I verified the monitor readings with my truck air pressure
gauge and all were within one or two pounds.
> > >
> > > It's quite interesting to see how much tire air pressure increases when
the wheels are rolling.
> > >
> > > Phil
> > > "iWander"
> > > 85PT40
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am looking for what brand/models of Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems
are being used out there? What features do you like (or not like) about your
model? Ball park system prices?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
TPMS recommendations - carhauler7777 - 10-18-2012 08:15
Mike,
Correct on the Tire-Safeguard selling points. Plus, I forgot to mention tire
temperatures are displayed on the monitor.
In addition to isolating the good tire in a blow-out situation, and isolating
each tire individually after a 10 psi drop in pressure, the Crossfire system
equalizes the air pressure between duals when rolling.
The inside dual tires build up more heat from the brake drums and from less air
circulation causing air pressure to increase in the inside duals. Without the
equalizing system in place, you can have a difference of 10-15 pounds or more
between the duals. You can imagine the negative issues that can cause.
As I mentioned in my original post, it's very interesting to see exactly just
how much tire air pressure increases when rolling down the road. We were in
95-100 degree weather all the way to Portland, Oregon and my TPMS was showing
increases of as much as 20 pounds, with the steer tires increasing more than the
duals.
To be seen is if cooler ambient and road surface temperatures will result in
lower tire pressure increases.
As to the readings from the sensors on the Crossfires, I manually double checked
all my tire pressures with my truck tire gauge. All pressure readings from both
the TPMS and my truck gauge were within 1-2 pounds of each other, so there is no
problem I can see between the Crossfire and Safe-Guard systems.
The monitor displays an overhead diagram of your vehicle. The readings
continously cycle through according to sensor number, i.e., on my set-up, #1 is
RF, #2 is RR, #3 is RR Tag, #4 is LR Tag, etc.
As each reading is displayed, the wheel position is highlighted on the diagram
with the tire pressure and temperature displayed next to it. If you have a
toad, a similar diagram and display process appears after the coach readings
have cycled. The cycling process for both coach and toad repeats itself
indefinitely as long as the monitor is "on."
When the monitor is on and cycling, you don't have to do anything except look at
it once in awhile to monitor the readings.
I should note the six wheel monitor system is numbered and programmed for, and
displays, a two axle rig with rear duals, meaning the #3 and #4 sensors are
highlighted on the monitor diagram as the inside RR and LR duals. On my set-up,
the #3 and #4 sensors are on my RR and LR Tags.
One more item regarding the repeater question: While I can vouch for the
Tire-Safeguard system, I don't know how other TPMS systems would work on steel
body coaches without a repeater, but since most manufacturers sell them
separately, I'd buy and test without the repeater, then buy one if needed.
At home, my toad is parked about 100 feet away from the coach, and the monitor
is still displaying the toad tire pressures. Can't ask for more.
Phil
"iWander"
85PT40
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...> wrote:
>
> Really great info Phil. Thanks.
>
> The key 'selling' points I got out of this for this brand are:
> 1) the user replaceable batteries (which seem a real plus over other models),
> 2) the flow thru sensors,
> 3) no need for a repeater with this brand, and
> 4) the fact that they work with Crossfires (I had not thought about that
feature).
>
> However, I have a question on the Crossfires. I have thought about them but
have not installed them. Isn't the purpose of those to equalize pressures on
duals, yet block a leak if one tire goes down? How will this affect the readings
from the Crossfire sensor to the dash monitor? Or do the Crossfires allow for
'x' amount of pressure loss before blocking the air loss? So you would know you
had a dual problem, but not which one. Correct? Of course you save the cost of
two more sensors.
>
> I had not realized that the sensors were numbered and pre-programmed by tire
position. I wonder if that is true for all systems?
>
> Does the Tire-Safeguard monitor show all sensors at once on their graphic
image or do you have to scroll thru screens to see all the sensor readings?
>
> Thanks a bunch!
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "carhauler7777"
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > I have the Tire-Safeguard system on my coach and toad.
> >
> > I bought the kit with six flow-through sensors for the coach, and four cap
sensors for the toad. I have a Crossfire system on my rear duals so one
flow-through sensor takes care of each set of duals.
> >
> > Some systems require you buy new sensors when the batteries die (at 40-50
bucks a pop). Tire-Safeguard sensors have replaceable batteries, so there is no
need to buy new sensors when the batteries go dead.
> >
> > Some of the other systems I looked at also recommended/required a repeater
for steel body coaches, especially if sensors were installed on the toad. My
system works just fine without a repeater.
> >
> > 180 degree valve stem adapters need to be installed on the tag axle wheels
so the flow-through sensors face out. This will also be an issue on duals
without a tire pressure equalizing system like my Crossfire.
> >
> > Installation and programming is very simple. The sensors come numbered and
programmed for wheel position on the coach and toad.
> >
> > Everything worked fine during our recent 2100 mile round trip to Portland,
Oregon and back. I verified the monitor readings with my truck air pressure
gauge and all were within one or two pounds.
> >
> > It's quite interesting to see how much tire air pressure increases when the
wheels are rolling.
> >
> > Phil
> > "iWander"
> > 85PT40
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am looking for what brand/models of Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems are
being used out there? What features do you like (or not like) about your model?
Ball park system prices?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Mike Bulriss
> > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > > San Antonio, TX
> > >
> >
>